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>>7918691How are you even meant to learn this? To the anons who do paint like this? How do you keep all the shades and colours and textures and physical shapes in your head? It just seems like an enormous mental load
>>7918700it's easy, we have to focus to not paint like that
>>7918700one step at a time and time is the crucial factor. paintings like these arent dished out in a day. a week maybe, depending on the size of the canvas. dont underestimate the time being spent on even the simplest of works.
Are there any traditional artists on /ic/ accepting commissions? Size of the piece would be around 8x10 inches
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>>7918720
What do you I need to know if I want to color for the first time using water colors
>>7918730>to colorNothing, that's something children do in kindergarten.
>>7918736And that's why thread like these tend to die, you don't even try meet anyone halfway who has no idea of the topic
>>7918741You're asking a retarded permabeg question and didn't even think to search the archive or use google like a non-retard. Kill yourself
>>7918744/ic/ fag trying not be a hostile sperg. Must be a unicorn among anons
>>7918746Learn English, brown retard.
>>7918700>How are you even meant to learn this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAmN8QalwZI>To the anons who do paint like this?That's a good one. >>7918711Sure.>>7918730>What do you I need to know if I want to color for the first time using water colorsDon't drink the gray water? What's even the question, literally just draw. Worst case you will waste some paper, guess what that's how you learn, by wasting paint and paper.
>>7918749Okay now what ?
Mud is filtering me hard, bros.
>>7918760>Okay now what ?You tell me.
>>7918792This was drawn from life and I tried getting some detail right, but there wasnt a shadow on the plant visible I added it anyway because i thought it might look good. I kinda messed that part up.I'm not sure what to do with this insight set
>>7918700>How are you even meant to learn this?You have to believe in your love for loli feet.
>>7918700>To the anons who do paint like thisROFLYou can't seriously think here anyone paints like this LMAO.
>>7918843I can, but I prefer Degas
>>7918833>there wasnt a shadow on the plant visible I added itPaint what you see. For while at least.
>>7918846Attention whoring again, Brain?
>>7918848>admitting he knows my workNice self own
>>7918700you kidding? no one on the planet can paint like a pre raphealite
>>7918691ToT
>>7918846No, you can't.PYWinb4 crickets
>>7918850>Making fun of well known incompetent people is somehow a self own.My sides.
>>7919271>well knownEpic self ownage
>>7919299well known doesn't mean famous, you absolute retard.
>>7919311>Synonyms of well-known: famous, famed, prominent, celebrated, renownedyou'll make me blush
>>7919319well known can also mean infamousyou are well known for being a laughing stock for example
>>7919323Success breeds jealousy
How do you get better at painting large? I paint small, on shellac coated paper and I’ve become stuck in a rut of painting no bigger than 8x11. How do you attempt to get into bigger size canvases? I would eventually like to paint really large. (Although I paint in my room, which is tiny). I feel like it’s partially nervousness and a mental barrier.
>>7919328depends on what kind of success. if you are renown for having bad art like Cumfarti, then there's nothing to be envious of.also, learn what jealousy is.
>>7919432You're the expert
>>7919413>take bigger piece of paper>paint on it>????????
>>7919413>How do you get better at painting large?By using a bigger brush and standing farther from the canvas
>>7919413Draw larger
>>7919444Thanks! I’ll try using a bigger brush next time. I’m using tiny brushes. >>7919452I will try this. I never draw big, only in a tiny sketchbook.
Haven't had it in me to draw for a while. Here's the last thing I was working on
>>7918700my technique isnt as good as this guy but its really not that insane when you've learned how to break down each part of a portrait step by step and know some basic color theory. There's nothing insane about this, it looks like a lot taking in it at once but it's all built from elementary parts step by step- proportions, contour lines, underpainting, mid tones, values and texture in that order. Color used to intimidate me but it's really not hard at all if you have a decent eye and know the very easy and basic tricks like using a color wheel to pick a scheme before hand or cross pollinating your painting with one or two colors to create unity (like how in OP every color has a warm yellow in it to create unity)
>>7918730>water colorspick a different medium unless you enjoy pain. its unironically the most difficult and tedious medium there is to actually master.
>>7919547Duning Krueger is strong with this one.
>>7919548>its unironically the most difficult and tedious medium there is to actually masterHow?
>>7919577I don't know about tedious, but there's fuck all material to learn from, you're on your own because even fewer people on this side of 1800s can paint in watercolors than oil in the first place, let alone also bothered to write a book
>>7919576its basicely it, when you get more experience youll see its just a step or two removed (like adding texture and color obviously)
>>7919538Such refs are very flat, you cant really depict the form, but you can and should draw proper values
>>7918720Are you underage?
>>7919576>RTS coperHe gets worse everydayAll I hear Jon blow yap about now is how RTS games are the only real video games yet he makes artsy horseshit that nobody plays instead
Water bottles
>>7919998why did i know this was you before seeing the signature?
>>7919998Yes, drawing is not bad. No, you still can't and shouldn't paint.
>>7920010We wuz well known artists and shit
>>7919998Kino drawing excited for you to post a shit and vomit painting to ruin everything again
>>7920010his spastic mark making is that of a developmentally stunted manchild
>>7920038i'd frame that
Niggas,Are USB scanners from literally 1998 good enough to put normal drawings into the computer?
>>7920118nothing's good enough if the art's good, anything will do if it's shit
>>7919548idk about mastering it but it's the least tedious medium to actually paint in imoalso gives you street cred with the ladies (60+)
>>7920118Heh... 1998...Back when I was still using an Amiga.At this point I'd be more worried about hardware compatibility and drivers than quality of the scans.
>>7919538start with simple Bargue plates. working from photos is much harder than you think, you're setting yourself up for failure.gets the basics first, then move to more complicated stuff
Does any tradfren know which ink I should use to refill these?
>>7920748For the pen brush, a permanent, waterproof, wet ink i would suggest. Carbon ink for example.
>>7918730I just started painting with water colors too. I recommend reading "Painting Your Vision in Watercolor" by Robert Wade, it's been very helpful for me personally.
been doing plein air work outside in nature every day. listening to works by aristotle and plato while i paint with lead white.meanwhile you fucking fappers are inside staring at photographs going blind from the blue light overdose as you copy photos of toddlers to make your sick fucking compositions. only brian and that one dude who draws nothing but himmler shouls be allowed to own art materials, the rest of you should be rounded up and have your dominant hand chopped clean offeach thread has less art and more complaining about x y z person than the last.
>>7921111pyw
Who is the best modern painter?
>>7921201Gerhard Richter
>>7921207I don’t know what happened, I obviously meant to type Brian Comforti
>>7921208even if any young contemporary artist today becomes a celebrated artist later, richter is 94 years old. he painted this at 49 years old for instance, nobody under 75 would even be able to compete with an 80+ year catalog of artwork
>>7921212Anon, I...
>>7921212not even baiting, I'd rather buy a cumfarti pastel than be given this for free
>>7920645Have you had success using Bargue? I like the aesthetics, but I always see people doing Bargue with low quality scans, they don't follow the instructions for how to properly set-up and do the drawings, and they rush through it, so I'm wary of using it for self-study. I have the space to do it legit, but I just don't know if it's worthwhile outside an atelier where you have good prints to work off of and instructors to guide you.>>7919905Is there something you recommend? I'm kind of at the point where I'm just looking for interesting references and then messing around with a couple tricks and tips I know until it looks presentable, which probably doesn't help with my feeling lost.
>>7921207>>7921208Kill yourself you disgusting asshole.
>>7918691One of my older pieces
>>7921242>Have you had success using Bargueplenty, strongly recommend> I always see people doing Bargue with low quality scanshighest scan I know of is a pdf on archive.org; buying the book is worth the investment if you're serious about using it though.the scan is honestly quite close to the book, sufficient for self study. you would, obviously, lose greatly in quality by printing the scan though, even top-quality ones.so you can work from a cheap print to get your proportions more conveniently, and use a screen for the rendering.> follow the instructions for how to properly set-upthe sight-size bits are overrated. so is the systematic envelop thingy-bit, it's unpractical. they're okay for the first two plates you'll work on, say.comparative measurements is the way to go> they rush through itthat's the number one reason they get poor results. you want to be slow. I remember spending maybe 12h on one of the simple foot when I started. try to be as slow, as accurate and as clean as you can.come back to your old drawings some time after you've terminated them. you should be able to spot issues. that's your eyes progressing, and you future self being able to guide your younger self.of course there are downside to focus solely on accuracy, but it's a good starting point nevertheless, especially if you don't have a tutorbut the same downside exists with other approaches as well.if you can get your hand on a one or two plaster casts, that'd be great too
>>7921343>plentyMay we see it?
HOW TO PAINT HAIRIOW TO PAINT DRESS How to PAINT TINY DETAILS I RUINED ALL MY VRUSHES BUT IF THEH ERENG RUINED I STILL WOULDNT KNOW HOW TO MAKE DRESS A BIT WARMER WHKLE ITS STILL WHITE HOW TO MAKE DRESS HAVE VALUES WITHOUT IT LOOKING DIRTY
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>>7921111what a violent psychopathic mentality. what happened to you? ever considered therapy?
endless amounts of pointless grinding awaits me
>>7921478Trad is literally there to enjoy the process, your brain is fucked. You you want to participate in the rat race of mindless grinding, youd be better off with cg.
>>7921484i enjoyed it for a couple months tried to make it a career now im back to finding it painful and tedious
>>7921498>im back to finding it painful and tediousYou will end as Brain, at best, do you want that?
>>7921504i had this idealist vision of bringing beauty into the world [spoiler] i also have no other skills [/spoiler], though i think it's over if i don't rediscover any degree of joy from it
>admit to myself my values are shit>"that's it, I'm doing value studies, no painting until I get better">finish 1 (one) value study that looks like a disinterested /beg/ did it to avoid chores>spend the next 3 hours doing croquis of muscular naked menI can't do it bros, it's so fucking boring
>>7921515>it's over if i don't rediscover any degree of joy from itSounds cheesy, but it's true from a practical point of view alone.>>7921526>it's so fucking boringNah, you're just a retard.You can train values with paint. Or guess what, you can even train values with a full palette. At least you could, you're probably not good enough to do so.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iHj-C2f14U
>>7921552>you can train values at 1/20 rate>I am very intelligent post your work, dunning kruger
>>7921552>5 sessions for a value study of a floating en face portrait with hair hiddenThere's a reason everyone does this with graphite and charcoal.
>>7921447what a faggy little post. what are you, a woman who’s clam meat between her legs is quivering at the possibility of a man sating his blood lust?it’s only natural to have a reaction of both violence and disgust towards people who gossip all day and don’t even fucking draw.these freaks genuinely spend more time masturbating every evening than they do drawing the entire day. think about that
>>7921585post your work
Could we uhhhh ignore bait?
I haven't browsed these threads in a few months but why are guys dumpstering on this anon? I really liked his Frieren and he drew a really cute 2hu wolf for me too. Not a troll, genuinely asking
>>7921723that freak? he wrecked his finely turned out and pleasing painting of frieren on purpose, then posted the abomination here in order to instigate abuse towards himself. no doubt he is some kind of unhinged masochist or other such lunatic who takes a sick pleasure in the maltreatment he now receives. as a matter of fact you are probably him yourself, doubtless attempting to concoct another torrent of abuse to fuel your lurid fantasies. begone
anyone got any recommendations for a thin/small brush pen? Something that would be good to use on a smaller sketchbook
>>7921772Huh? That's a real image and not just some shitpost someone made to clown on him??? For what purpose? Is this some advanced level of trolling? Their Twitter still has the profile picture of the regular Frieren, you sure this isn't just a troll?
>>7921792Trad is a process of >do good painting>do bad painting>do two good paintings >schizo freakout and disappear for four months>reappear and hope you’ve improved enough that nobody recognizes youTraditional painting, and learning it, is a humiliating process unlike any other
>>7921723I think it's just one nodraw constantly posting it. This general has become infested with trolls for some reason, you're better off posting in a different thread.
>>7921777Sakura Pigma brush pen
>>7921723He's some genuine autist in Germany with a distinct writing style that used to make retarded posts all over the board, aggressively calling everything he didn't like postmodernism. He since realized he is a postmodernist and it's actually modernism he doesn't like, but insisted on still doing it due to autism
Is it worth buying good brushes like 5-20 dollar ones or can I buy some 20$ set from Amazon with like 15 synthetic ones and good reviews and be done with it. For oil painting.
>>7921723It's not that deep really, it was just a little wip of a semi-real version of Frieren. That's the result after two sessions. It's whatever, I haven't really developed this style thereafter.>>7921934>He since realized he is a postmodernist and it's actually modernism he doesn't likeI must have been absent as this has happened.
>>7921935If you start out, buy some bristle brushes, even the cheap ones are decent.
>>7921935brushes are arguably more important than paints, but what matters is the quality of the bristle edge. as long as the brush comes to a fine point and isn’t splaying in all directions the price doesn’t matter. however cheaper brushes definitely don’t last as long as more expensive ones.if you can find a cheap but reliable brand go for it.
>>7921938>I must have been absentof mind, yes
Was baby sitting friends dogs another day
>>7918691Captcha Test, Damn shit is annoying...
>>7921938>heh, it's just two sessions>this styleNigga, her nostril's in the middle of her philtrum and her nose is at a 45 degree angle to her face. I don't think you quite comprehend how bad that thing is, it's not a matter of style.
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>>7921081I painted some more flowers, this time orchids
https://youtu.be/SnYJYG1qvigProven business strategy for artists, brought to you by the guy that opened a gallery on an island with a population of 1 million, in a town of 500 people, 5 hours' drive from the nearest place with more than one gas station
>>7923255if this nigga gotta shill 10 million things and he a goated artist how this nigga gotta shill
>>7919906Nah, this was just a project someone wanted me to do for them lolHere’s some more childish art tho
Are there any easels that tilt?
>noooo you cant just paint your ex girlfriend its been years atpshut up before i kill you
>>7925562yes, lots of them
havent posted here in a while missed this place
>>7925646more of her
>>7925649and another
>>7925646>>7925649>>7925651draw bigger and cleaner, it'll look incomparably betteryou've got skill, but it looks like you wiped your sweaty ballsack with it at some point, it's like the art version of being a bugchaser
>>7925646>>7925649>>7925651Not bad
>>7925602We’re posting ex girlfriends?Nice painting btw
"Unholy Mountain" Gouache and Mixed Media
You know that traditional art is problematic, right?https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/july-august-2020/unwelcome-rise-of-a-truly-awful-artist/
>>7921343I found some acceptable scans online that were resized and I can just print them out at work. I'll give it a go for a couple plates. Looking for something to reignite the spark right now.
I painted for over a year nearly exclusive on my wacom. Really locked in, bought a new tablet, figured out my fav brushes. Now it feels so good and comfy, i have problems going back to trad.Fuck, what do?
>>7927841fuck off from the thread
Finally I've gone from desperately who wants to sellf to wanting to do it for the craft
>>7925850Inspired by kukuroo mountain? hxh
I'm kind of new to this, how do yall do lineart so smooth physically? I have a dozen little microshakes that make it so I have to fixup my lineart afterwards and it still looks kinda wobbly even then.
>>7928509Skill issue(Draw from your shoulder, not your wrist.)
>>7925646>>7925649>>7925651Amazing got a blog?
>>7928541Thanks man, hope I can fix this issue with my skill.
>>7921980>>7923709nice, what dimensions?
>>7928503Neva even hoida it.
I bought some paint, it's greatno, I will not paint
>>7931327>I will not paintAt least you are honest. Still, fuck off then.
>>7931346post what you're painting if this isn't the thread for not painting
>>7929024A5 I believe. Medium Leuchterm sketchbook. Took about almost the full page. .9 mechanical pencil
>>7925664room temperature IQ post
>>7931977in kelvin
So I like to paint oil by having a rough undifferentiated idea in my mind and then going yolo strategy and painting without much guidance or composition. I think it's based like romantic. That being said I just went back to oil from acrylic and the strategy seems almost untenable because I can't make corrections easily due to drying times. I guess my old method relied a lot on trial and error sort of like a huma stable diffusion until something good emerges. Working on this peace and it feels utterly meaningless (because in just doing random shit on wet paint) and quite ugly. It's my first tiny (for my standards) work about 50x40 so it seems I can't rely on polishing it to get great results as there's less space for rendering to carry heavy loads. This is day 1. I'm also worried that oil could be more dangerous to layer than acrylic since it seems heavier, so I can't spend endless time optimizing it without fucking it up. I'm also struggling with building perspective and different environmental planes, to split the background into different sections at different distances. Overall it seems I've plateaus and have no idea how to use my old technique of not having much of a method and yoloing.
>>7932547You made that? It's fucking over for you brother. Go into programming or some shit. Painting is too elaborate and requiring of sovl.
>>7932547This looks washed out and muddy, are you going for an atherial quality? something is off, this one isn't as bad as the cartoon lion girl painting though.You have consistency in style at least...
>>7932591It was supposed to be a rather bright painting where those white thingies you blow is emitting light and the fairy gets the light from em. Why you mean "as bad" the lion painting is goated LMAO. I improved it but don't wanna post uhh updates because of doxxing. Hmm I'm glad you think it's better though. As for that quality you mention it was meant to be like very light sort of those beautiful yellow sunsets and yeah very light yellow light green sort of thing but the issue is I couldn't make the light pop off towards the fairy if everything else was light, so it's like the image I had was contradictory. It's very muddy yes. I was sort of deciding the colors on the spot desperately trying to darken it over and over while the oil kept mixing the colors because of its wet texture. I'm thinking of using only acrylics to set the first layer(s) and oil for details but I don't know if it's looked down upon. I gotta say I went for a more impressionist slant on this one but that may just be due to struggling to paint details. I have a 2a brush but it's rather fucked so not that effective. But yeah still starting out though I'm worried I can't polish it that much if it's already too thick/textured so it may have a low skill ceiling. Thanks for the reply though, I will as always try to clean up the values. Do you think I suck? I'm trying to "make it" professionally lel. Still not sure if it's for me, just trying it out. Sometimes I'm very inspired sometimes I'm not. I'm a nihilist so sometimes I feel it's meaningless.
>>7932547As long as your values look like that, you can think about abstract aspects as much as you want, it will not work.
>>7932547>>7932622nobody's reading this shit, learn to write concisely
>>7919577just for starters if you want to reproduce a hue you've already used before you will have to mix the EXACT same amount of water as you did the first time. good luck with that. water in general is extremely delicate and finicky and mastering it is a whole different skill set unique to the medium. you have a few minutes to do all of the soft blending in a certain section you need before it dries, and there's no second chance. you cant paint over, scrape, rework or continue blending, so any mistake you make will just be there permanently. also, the light of the canvas will always be your strongest highlight, so hope you dont fuck that up because there's no fixing it like you can with paint.
rate his art
>>7927015>randomly scroll down halfway>the author is just crying about some blood libel shitthe art is antisemitic thats the entire article
Shiiieeet, they got me guys, again. Even though i never got my devices back from the last time...
>>79326632/10
>>7932749I intensely dislike scene paintings where nothing is happening, I just don't understand how anyone would spend hours painting them without realizing the painting is fucking boring.Like what even is the scene, women getting well water? Paint young girls gossiping off to the side, a young guy looking at them wistfully, some old crone nagging at her daughter in law, a woman struggling to tardwrangle her young son while carrying a fucking jug on her head, something other than "woman walking away". Mundane doesn't have to mean literally zero interaction or activity
>>7932675Da juice dindu nuffin! Simon of Trent is blood libel! Leo Frank was innocent! Gaza is Pallywood!But—oy vey!—the Nazis turned my grandma into a lampshade and killed my grandpa with their masturbation machine, and if you doubt me you're going to jail!
...painting?
>>7932784Are you a grill
>>7932807No, I have a nice hefty cock that I ply exclusively on women beyond my station
>>7932784Why is it always the retards that love to give out their shit tier opinions?
>>7932784because the world is beautiful
>>7932999it's a way to make themselves feel better about their own lack of art skills
>Why is it always the retards that love to give out their shit tier opinions?
>>7933010Still mogs you by a long shot, little buddy.
>Still mogs you by a long shot, little buddy.
On all levels except physical I am Degas
>>7933018It's okay little buddy, you'll get there someday(you won't) when you stop getting upset over people clearly better than you.
>do nothing>visit thread>brian is fighting someone mistaking him for me>obsessed lol
Maybe i should paint a third version of the long-eared whore. Would be a good way to end my trad hiatus and see if i leveled up somewhat.
>>7933090It's always the begtards like this that think it's going to be easy only to quickly realize that their drawing looks like shit and nothing like they envisioned until they inevitably give up.
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>>7933109
>>7933124The water lady looks pretty nice, I'd say finish that one.
>>7932749my biggest qualm about this honestly is the massive rock tripping hazards on a main footpath. Are we to pretend like the path its this well worn without someone moving that rock out of the way? I think not.
>>7933198it's in israel, have you seen jews doing manual labor?
here is my guy
>>7933000trips of truth. i love you, pure anon.
>>7933198some years after that scene the Romans brought real roads, somewhat-wine, and the finest civilized execution techniques to da joos
>>7933149Thanks anon. It’s “finished” but I think some line weight would help a bit, thanks for saying something
>>7933313It's not finished until it looks like this. Now, chop chop!
>>7933349Fucking kek
I found a ram skull and tried life drawing with vine charcoal. Super challenging but felt cool to draw outdoors. Will continue to spam angles and different lighting
Brain should watch that, maybe he could learn something from it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11sy8Mzbquc
>>7935416Skill issue, I should’ve chosen to be born as a Hebrew female. A common mistake most of us make at one point or another
>>7935416if brian ever meets your WHORE wife, you'll be raising even more other men's children, WILL
>>7935582>>7935664stop samefaging schizo
>>7935674stop samecucking, will small johnson
>>7935684That makes no sense, Brianovich.
>>7935703you make no sex with your whore of a wife, willie
>>7935704drunk?
Imagine """your""" wife rather being called Barry than taking your name lolCouldn't be an Italian
It is a heavy burden, being the best painter in this thread, but I carry it well.
>>7936098how much do your paintings sell for?
>>7936187Around $65k a year
>>7936212>pretends to be me>"i make $65k a year"wow, disrespectful
>>7936251I kneel
>>7936255
>>7936251Jan to May == 5 Months457 Quantity / 5 Months == 91.4A month has roughly 30 days which == 3 paintings per daywhat the fuck are you painting that you're able to shit out this many per day? The average pro spends 6+ hours in a single good painting so unless you're painting 18 hours per day (unlikely because you're posting on here), there's something suspicious about this.
>>7936263https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuxJ41x4jr4
Thoughts on brush vs nib for inking? Both are great, of course, but I can't decide which I prefer for lineart. Nibs are easier to use and have a sort of hard line that a brush can't seem to replicate, but brushes are super dynamic (and way harder to use).
>>7936323like everything else, the size is the main factorsmall enough - brushes are too finicky big enough - nibs make no sense
