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I dunno i like my small huion

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>>7925255
I thought drawing with a capacitive stylus on a cheap tablet without active stylus support would be a subpar compromise, but to my surprise my experience has been great and I haven't felt the need to "upgrade" at all, this was a nice surprise.

So have the chong brands gotten any better over the years or

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>krita now has HDR display
So, is there a tablet that displays HDR yet? Preferably HDR1000

>>7926027
gimmick

I was thinking of getting the s10 lite but I would probably just trade it in for like s12 later in the year and knock off like $20 bucks.

>>7925999
yeah, most of wacom patents expired so the other brands are 90% as good for half the price.
just buy from amazon for better return policies in case you get a bad unit.

Getting a wacom intuos medium? Would the pro version be a good investment?

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Anyone here with a Xppen Deco LW/L? I've read it has some diagonal wobble. How bad is it?

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>>7927680
Don't care still want one.
If your hand isn't glowing due to the brightness of the actually, physically bright sun you're drawing then you might as well stop drawing altogether and play with matchbox cars.

I’m using a tablet without touch, and Wacom express remote. How are we supposed to rotate the canvas in different directions fast without pressing the rotate button on the software ? I feel like touch is needed. I’m considering getting an iPad Pro.

>>7927886
You have a remote. Program rotate to one of the buttons.

>>7926027
>>7927680

>yes, please triple the file size of my PNG for full human color range that won't really be apparent to the naked eye and will also cause compatibility issues with certain devices.

remember when samsung phones would get bricked if you set a non-sRGB wallpaper?

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>>7927931
>won't really be apparent to the naked eye

>>7927930
So rotate left and right on the buttons or keep it on the touch wheel?

>>7927967
This video isn't playing on my computer

>>7928028
Upgrade your browser from NetScape.

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>>7925255
forgive me for huion posting but i have the most insufferable issue ever and wondering if anyone has come across it? going to just return the tablet if i cant get it sorted, but essentially:

whenever the USB portion of my 3-in-1 cable is plugged into my pc, i get this insane stuttering that means i cant even complete a full circle with the line breaking and glitching straight - as in, not following my movement.

>>7931062
I can't help you unfortunately but which model is that? I want to avoid getting it.

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>>7931066
oh yeah i gave very little details oops -

i bought a refurbished huion kamvas 16 gen 3.. it's a shame because i had a pro 24 before this which i loved and had virtually no problems with u.u

>>7931062
does it do it in other programs?

>>7931069
it does it across my entire pc - it affects my mouse too. its like every 3-7 seconds theres that micro stutter. if i move my mouse in a circle i get the exact same effect, its not exclusive to the pen / clip studio. and it *only* occurs when the USB portion of the 3-in-1 cable is plugged in. if the hdmi and the power cable are in it wont happen, if the usb cable goes into my pc it will happen. I have also tried every single port, ive tried freeing up USB slots, ive even swapped cables thinking that was the issue but alas.

>>7931062
have you tried uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling them ?

really tempted to get the movink 14 pro but i will sit my goy ass down and restrain myself from making unnecessary purchases

>>7931174
about a million times, also no different to when i use open tablet drivers either

YO I'm planning to buy a screened can anybody confirm if using it without the display like a normal pen tablet has lag? I only want to use it for detailing

>>7925259

Which device is this?

>>7927886
Learn to draw without rotating

>>7931178
>no Procreate
A waste of money

>>7933375
I use Krita on the desktop anyways so I would feel right at home : - )
but also even on the ipad i use fresco and not procreate

>>7933376
Adobe Fresco is also iPad only

>>7933383
and so is procreate. what I was trying to say that even using the only product that supports procreate I would still not chose procreate.
hope this clears things up for you

>>7933386
But there is nothing else that is good in a tablet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyRYpdkTKOE
I gotta get a 27 incher

https://a.co/d/01zk4Ubl
Is this good for a total /beg/ like me?

>>7933593
Unironically too damn big, the touch screen seems nice though.

>>7933593
I don't trust XP Pen with anything more expensive than a Deco pen tablet

>>7933743
You only say that because you got a small table

Hey bros, trying to get a drawing tablet but I want a bigger screen with a higher res than the 15.6 inch display on my old XP-Pen Artist. I was thinking about trying Huion Kamvas 22(Gen3). My budget is around $750. Anyone try this model?https://a.co/d/0cxsEJh9

>>7934797
I have the Huion 27 Pro (60hz). It has Pen Tech 4.0.

I really do like it. Before i bought it, i had a huion with pen tech 3, and the pressure response/initial activation force sucked. I genuinely just took a gamble buying the 27 and dont regret it, its really great. If it was bad i was going to return it lol.

What i like is that it also came with a fat and thin pen, so i didnt have to buy a thin pen which is my preference.

>>7931178
it was goy ass unnecessary purchase for me. But i like it much more than ipad for drawing. for rest tablet and computing stuff its like bad to really bad. And wish screen coating was more rough. I like pen and paper and coming from that its pain to use, so slippery

>>7934896
Use the felt tip for the stylus if you aren't doing so already.

>>7934840
I wish theyd make some pentech 4.0 inspiroys or something, been using a kamvas pro 24 4k for a few years now but recently switched to using a inspiroy 2 L because I like screenless tablets better
>why on earth would you do that
i can lean back in my chair and relax with the tablet on my lap, its also more convenient when using it with blender since I never liked dragging blender over to the kamvas. I'm also one of those people that arent bothered by the disconnect it introduces and I hated having to wear drawing gloves so I wouldnt smudge the screen.

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>>7925255
I'm between getting a XP Pen Deco 01 V3 or a Wacom Intuos Pro. I've read XP Pen got higher pressure sensitivity numbers, but what about quality, does it hold just as good or even better than a wacom?

So how bad exactly is the fan on the Cintiq Pro 27? Should I wait for Wacom to make a fanless version?

>>7935941
I've got a Deco 01 V3 and a Wacom One (screen, 13.3 inch) I bought in 2023. I don't see a difference in terms of pressure sensitivity. In fact, the most glaring difference between the two is how hard I have to press on the Deco 01 compared to the Wacom. In terms of drawing accuracy or wobbling or whatever, I don't notice a difference.

>>7935941
i used to use an intuos pro L for 6 years but I recently switched to a xenselabs for half the price and i don't think im ever gonna go back until wacom realizes $500 for a screenless tablet is insane when everyone else is charging 1/10-1/2 that for the same thing

Still using my 21UX. Feels good.

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>>7936281
>the most glaring difference between the two is how hard I have to press on the Deco 01
Really? could it be a settings thing? wacom's factory settings makes pressing harder than it should.
>>7936314
Price is a good point too.

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My campus has a professor selling a used Cintiq 27QHD in good condition for $300, should I get it? My current tablet is a Huion

>>7936425
I just read about it and it turns out the Deco 01 has a higher IAF than other tablets of its time. (The V3 seems to be basically identical to its predecessor)

>>7936457
what kind of huion? if you mean a recent kamvas pro then no unless you have something like a 13 or 16". if its an older one thats still on pentech 2.0 then sure

I found a listing of Wacom Intuos Pro small (pth460 or something) in mint condition for $115. Is that a fair price or should I lowball it?

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do i?

>>7936531
>higher IAF
>10 times the amount you need on a wacom (3 gr)
It's remarkable, but does it make a change in the real world?, I mean, 30 gr of force is still quite short.

>>7936808
It's very noticeable to me. It doesn't make it harder to draw or anything like that, but it's less pleasant. It feels like I have to press forcefully to do what light gliding does on the Wacom. I'd also say the nibs would wear out faster, but you can get bags of like 50 of those, so.

Sorry for asking here, I'm a total beginner and I want a pen display just for doodling. I saw a xp-pen artist 12 (2nd gen) on fb marketplace, is it any good? My main usage is just for making handwritten fonts for manga scanlation.

>>7936703
an intuos pro small is incredibly tiny and basically only meant for use on 13" laptops by people too dumb to buy a huion or xp-pen

my cintiq just arrived but i don't have a usb-c port or a mini-hdmi - hdmi cable cause i'm not a laptopmongrel this is bullshit, they don't even send you nibs or gloves it's just the fucking screen without the essential cables EL OH EL

>>7936795
Are you a woman? Yes. Are you not a woman? No get the 19 incher, you don't need a stand the screen already comes with one of the best stands attached to it

Just upgraded to a 13 inch ipad pro from an ipad mini 6, its like 2 lbs and 2.5x the size. Any stand or mount recommendations, seems to be very little credible information online...

>>7938148
Parblo PR 100, it has great stability and viewing angles

Has anyone noticed how fucking awful the drawing surface in wacom intuos is? I first bought one in around 2018, that lasted a few years before an area on the tablet straight up wouldnt draw. I then bought a basically brand new intuos from a thrift store and it didn't even last a year before theres multiple spots on the tablet that won't pick up my drawing. This is not an issue of me pressing too hard or not changing nibs.
Also recs for a new screenless tablet dont rec gaomon I've tried them they SUCK

Is there any 3d printing files of button cover for Intuos5L? mine is falling off due of its age

>>7931062
Check your USB cable specifications, I had this issue with my XP pen tablet that I tracked down to the cable. In my case my tablet needs USB 3.1 gen 1 at least superspeed at 5gb/s I bought a longer cable and it only registers as high speed which is 480 mb/s.
I could not find anything on the Internet about this. With any hubs or splitting in between could exasperate this issue. On the Internet artists always say defective send back or reinstall the drivers.
You have to buy a properly rated USB cable which I have found to be a massive pain in the ass as cables on Amazon don't really show this information. Usually the one that comes with it will be properly rated. You can also double check in the OS for what speed your cable is connected at.

>>7939076
To add to this, in my case with that big speed differential I got massive stuttering a lot more then yours.
What I would do, is if your using a different cable then the one it came with plug that one in and see if the problem still persists. If it doesn't then check the speeds registered by the OS of each of the cables.
What's frustrating is that it fails silently with no warning to the user. There's nothing to bubble up from the driver of it failing to transfer data fast enough, so I assume it just silently drops USB frames and you get stuttering.

>>7933095

>shit-talks on an entire brand of tablets
>too much of a pussy to name the device so that people can avoid it

>>7925259
>>7939677
>Calibrates the device like a retard
>DUDE the stylus doesn't line up! So much for Chinese tablets.
This video doesn't prove anything.

hey tabletheads,
I was looking at buying a new laptop for writing
but it occurred to me that since laptop keyboards suck I could instead buy a tablet + nice bluetooth keyboard and have a better typing experience while also doubling as a drawing device.
is that a stupid idea y/n?

Are 8th gen iPads still alright for drawing with Procreate? What benefits would I be sacrificing over an iPad Pro other than screen size?

Good stand for Wacom CTL-6100K-B? I want to keep the tablet at an angle so I'd stop resting my forearm on the desk, it restricts my shoulder movement.

>have ipad pro and galaxy tab ultra
>ended up just going back to my kamvas 22 plus
1080p SUCKS but having a big canvas and being able to draw with my arm can't be beat.

Considering buying a refurbished high-end tablet, as an upgrade. Are there any preferred sites for refurbished tablets, or should I just hit up Ebay and return it if it's shit?

>>7925255
How's an xp pen artist 12 3rd Gen? I'm looking for a display (non android) tablet that won't put me through a financial turmoil.

>>7943185
could you elaborate on the 22'' preference? i usually draw in a intuos large, but since i changed to a 31.5'' monitor, for painting is not really a problem thanks to the 10 bit color... but precise lineart really got a lot more complicated.

My options where a old used galaxy tab s8 ultra 14'', a huion kamvas 16'' 2.5k or a kamvas 22 plus.

im pretty familiar using the intuos large on a 24'' display, so i believe 22 is fairly close to adapt.

>>7926027
the problem is that
artists learned the tone mapping the most informal way possible with lots of heuristics and that on top of currently fucked HDR pipeline overall will make everything significantly worse
i cannot think most of artists, even the /pro/ ones are barely capable of properly using that shit besides eye-screeching for the sake of wow factor

>>7944516
even HDR in games are broken and i have no idea what all the craze behind HDR is when the most implementation are blind of viewing condition that uses some assumed approximation or anchors to absolute brightness which is honestly horrible to look at
i blame TV manufacturers

destroyed my Ugee m518 in a drunken stupor a couple years ago, got myself Ugee M908 and it's still the best budget tablet manufacturer
FUCK xppen, FUCK huion (lmao)
and doubly fuck szajsung and wacum

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>>7944516
>i don't think most artists are capable of properly using that shit besides eye-screeching for the sake of wow factor
There was a brief moment on Twitter where I figured out how to upload HDR images onto it using updated ICC v4.4 profiles that weren't properly sanitized by Twitter's encoders. Then the shitposters discovered this and created flashbombs and Twitter retroactively stripped the images and prevented future images uploaded to the platform from having this effect, at least in-feed. You can still click on the images and get the HDR, but that kind of defeats the point.
Which is a shame because I think I do HDR in an actually tasteful manner (for the most part). Though, my workflow involves painting in a linear colorspace that's displayed to me in tonemapped SDR. Usually, if it looks good in SDR, it ends up looking good in HDR, provided I use the same family of tonemapping
I guess I'll just stick to painting on a screenless tablet on my HDR monitor, or Sunshine/Moonlighting into my android tablet and painting that way.

>>7944819
yeah that is the correct mental model but it is something of a pure technical side one needs to understand

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noticing a weird thing on my s8 ultra where sometimes there will be colors if i'm just painting with dark grey/black. why is that? i can't take a screenshot because it's a graphical thing. using superdisplay so that probably has a lot to do with it

Thinking of getting a Samsung Tablet but haven't decided on which one. There's so many god damn models. Thinking about the S10FE. Am I missing out on anything if I go with FE over the + or 11?

I want to avoid buying used.

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>>7945328
I started watching more reviews. What the fuck, the S9 owns.

>>7945328
Yeah better screen and hardware. The FE id fine if you just doodle

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>>7945351
I was planning on doing more than doodling but now I'm trapped in a choice paralysis. I could spring for the S11. God I hate being retarded.

>>7945361
idk. I would just go for the S model if you can. The FE is pretty severely gimped if I remember correctly. But the S pen works with it so if it's all you can do I'm sure you'll be fine once you learn its limitations.

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>>7945364
I just took the shot and bought an S11. Hope it gets here in time before I leave for the weekend.

>>7945381
I think you'll be glad. It'll last a lot longer too. I still really like my S9

>>7945328
>>7945335
Unless you're gayming why the fuck would you get a Samsung tablet when the Movink exists?
t. have a S9 Ultra

>>7945541
Bigger screen

>>7945541
Bigger screen, 120hz, built in camera, and I don't trust Wacom with android updates. They're already behind. There's also way more third party accessories with Samsung than Wacom.

Has anyone tried using their Samsung tablet on Windows 10/11 using screen mirroring? I've had the S10 Ultra tab for years now but I'd rather work on my computer with it than use it as a standalone.

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I got deco 01 v3 today and all is fine except one thing that makes it unusable
when I press buttons on the tablet, 90% of the time it just freezes and stops working
replugging or restarting xppen app restores it

But the buttons cannot be used at all
I tried fuckign with windows ink (win 10) with no effect, removed old drivers, tried USB-C and 2 USB-A slots, no cigar

>>7945527
>>7945634
I ended up having buyers remorse. Not because of price or anything. I just found it too small. I returned it. Best part is that Amazon is refunding me the full amount to my card even though I used $250 in gift cards to buy it. I'm going to be buying the Ultra instead.
>>7945541
The S11 Ultra is currently on sale for the same price as a Movink 14. From what I've seen, it's fine for art but falls flat on everything else. The screen being texture out of the box is nice, but then it's kind of a waste if you slap a protector on it. I've seen videos of it chugging too in more complex pieces. Maybe if it were cheaper I'd consider it, but when the Ultra is at the same price, I think I'll stick with the Ultra.

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>>7944502

Hey anon, I use an Intuos Pro M and work on a 27 inch monitor, I wouldn't consider it. I bought a Cintiq 22 for the same reason thinking it would help with faster lines, but the displays on any non-pro display tablets are noticeably dogshit compared to my ProArt monitor that is calibrated out the box. I ended up returning the cintiq because it ended up being kinda pointless.
If you're open to the idea of using a stand for your Intuos so you aren't drawing on a flat surface where it's hard to make precise lines, I would try that instead. I saw a JP artist work using this method and tried it, way more comfortable than using it normally and I don't struggle with lines as much anymore.

>>7946332
try lifting the pen so it doesn't interact with the tablet and then use the buttons
annoying and requires forming unnecessary habit, but works most of the time

>>7946361
Probably a good call. Bigger screen is always a good thing

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Got my Ultra and its great. I'm glad I went with the larger size, otherwise it would all feel too cramped.

I got a Bellmond Paper Screen protector for it and it's wonderful. I never liked drawing on glass but I was gonna suck it up and learn, but this solved my problem. Only issue I have is the case that I got is so fucking snug it pushes through inbetween the protector and screen and actually peel it off. Even when I try my best to get it over the protector, the squeeze is so tight, it pushes it up at the lip that it causes air bubbles to pop up. Anyone with an S11 Ultra got any case recs?

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I've been using a tablet as an extra monitor and occasional light art duty for the past 5 years or so and it's finally crapped out recently (need to un/replug it after comp comes out of Sleep, edges turn white occasionally, and random disconnects) and I'm looking to side- or upgrade. Pic related is what I was using, an XP-PEN Artist15.6 Pro, recommended to me by a friend and I've been happy with it up until now.

What's out there these days which is similar in price (~$300ish, ideally, but if it's really solid I could go higher) and at least the same resolution (1920x1080)? I'm also not really happy with the XPPen's weird ass "3-in-1" USB and HDMI and extra power connection, so something simpler would be great. I'm not married to the 15.6" but anything smaller seems like it would feel too small for me.

Some quick searching led me to the Huion Kamvas 16 GEN3, and I'm seeing people elswhere say Huion is way better than XPPen, but based on the comments here that seems at least partially untrue and that Huion have their own set of problems?

I am going back to drawing as a hobby is buying refurbished Ipad Pro m2 13'' worth it? Is it overkill?

>>7935941
Haven't tried the XP Pen but I have Intuos pro large and I'm very happy with it. Gotta break the surface in though, at the beginning it eats nibs up quick.

Good inclined stand for a CTL-6100WL? I don't like having my wrist on the desk, it restricts my shoulder movements.

>>7925255
Fellas niche hardware related question.
I have a Kamvas 13 and I just got a fancy laptop, so I decided it's finally time to get a nice USB-C cable for it
Does ANY cable that matches the specs of the Huion one work on it? or do I have to specifically get the Huion cable?

Worth it to get an iPad for procreate? I use a galaxy and I'm not wild about any of the current drawing apps

>>7952582
Procreate is good but not THAT good, personally I use Clip Studio because Procreate intentionally lacks a weird colection of features like a gradient tool

>>7952712
I can't find a good pencil for csp. They're all terrible.

For those of you with screenless tablets, how long did it take you to get use to using it?

>>7952838
i went from practicing in my sketchbook to now using a huion screenless tablet
and i think i prefer it over using an actual full tablet, it might be cope but idk

anybody using huion in dual display setup with csp? i have this issue that when i toggle displays via pen, csp is not focusing (keyboard shortcuts dont work) despite being able to draw

Is it normal for the cursor to shake when doing slow lines sometimes? I'm using a 5 year old screenless and I can't remember if I've ever had this problem before. It could just be something new about my drawing method so is this normal?

>>7952838
a week but it depend the tablet and monitor size those a re very important

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Got a free Lenovo 2 in 1. Are they worth using as a drawing tablet? This is coming from someone that has never used one before.

>>7952838
for example, if i were to use a large intuos (basically a rectangle similar to A4 size) with a 16'' laptop screen, you are almost ratio 1:1 in both the size of the tablet and the size of the screen.

i mostly learned digital drawing in the begining with a huion medium size tablet (10x6) and a 24'' 1080p monitor, and thats more like 2:1 ratio, it means when 1 draw a straight line of 10 cm, i get 20cm on screen. you have to practice doing circles and straigh lines to get acustomed to it, but not mindlessly watching tv doodling. its about acuracy practice.

I was at the time finishing doing the drawabox first chapter in paper (the boxes challenge), drawing boxes, circles and elipses in 3 pages.
I moved to digital and started just doing the same warmup exercises.

After a couple of years on this setup, i moved to a large intuos 4, and recently, to a 32'' screen.

The thing i did, was to activate the precision mode (wacom drivers), that allows you to ''draw a rectangle'' inside your monitor, and use just that as active area. I did a rectangle in size like a real 24'' monitor space, and when im doing lineart, i use that instead of the full 32'' area to draw, just because i've use that for longer and i'm more comfortable.

If you persist and do your daily acuracy warmup practice, i believe you need like a month to get the hang of it, but just doing the warmup drawabox for around 1 hour, and then check and mark with red your acuracy mistakes. is a boring method but after a week you most likely can do it mechanicaly from memory.

what's the best screenless tablet at around $150 or less?
I've got a huion hs611 that has been perfectly adequate but the USB port(on the tablet side) is trying its absolute best to kill itself(basically need the cable in in just the right way/angle/with specific pressure applied or it disconnects), and while I could just get another they don't offer the color I had anymore and that's annoying.
at the moment I'm looking at the 11' xppen deco pro, but not really sure if there's any weird random as fuck models I'm missing or if the deco pro has weird issues.

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>>7956102
I mean, if you already have it you might aswell experiment with it and see if it works for you, I personally prefer how you can detach the keyboard on a traditional tablet, but if this works for you then good.

Lost my apple pencil. Really annoyed

>>7946571
I have this stand and it's great

>>7957003
i own a hs611 and i can say, is B tier at best, due to how initial activation force on pen tech 2.0 (old) works.

wacom have less than 1 IAF, while that model prob has at least 10+ IAF. wacom works almost identical that a real life fineliner, that you only need to make contact bween the tip of the pen and the paper for it to work and trace a line.

My advice is to hunt for whatever you can find: Large intuos 4, 5, pro 2013, or pro 2017.

i recommend large for desktop with 24 or + inches, but if you are on a laptop (14-16'') medium should be fine.

new there is much more to choose , but i think they go for 200 usd. the intuos large i mentioned can easily go for 100 to 150 usd.

I keep hearing the XP Pen is good though.

Think I'm gonna sell my galaxy tab ultra. I tried to get used to it for krita (use it on pc too) and the better file system but my ipad pro is just way comfier to draw on. The tab ultra feels awkward to hold because of the size and I find I prefer the aspect ratio of the ipad while drawing despite the samsung having more room on the sides.

So do the galaxy tabs have their own shitty mobile OS, or can you plug them into a real computer and use it like a reg drawing tablet

Is going from 13 to 16 a noticeable difference? I can also find cheap 22s but those might be too big.

>>7959043
could you elaborate on the diferences? krita is not available on ios and im not sure if on mac is usable since the arm macs seems to be unsuported.

i use a matepad 11.5 with krita on the go, and intuos pro large 2013 on desktop.

>>7959376
Yeah, I just use procreate and artstudio pro. Switching to pc isn't as seamless as krita but it's not too bad. Main downside is not having the same brushes. Don't have mac so no idea about that.
>could you elaborate on the diferences?
Besides my preference toward 4:3, imo ipados and the apps in general feel more polished and tablet-friendly, probably because the hardware's mostly the same unlike android. On android it feels like a lot of apps are made for phones. Not to say ipados is perfect or anything. It has plenty of quirks that annoy me (like that stupid bar on the bottom of the screen in some apps and crappy file management).
I like krita on pc but even with the s9 ultra's big screen the ui feels clunky to use. I'm surprised you manage to use it with an 11" screen.
The pens are both good but I find the apple pencil to be more responsive and have better pressure sensitivity compared to my s pen and wacom one pen. It is slightly heavier though. Can't speak for csp on either because fuck paying a subscription to draw.

>>7925255
Which of the screenless wacom tablets is the best for a beginner? I heard the intuos 3/4/5 have no tilt but I don't know how important that is.

>>7959425
that's because the matepad 11.5 (2023) screen is 3:2, not the usual 16:10 or 16:9 , check on displaywars web for the acual difference, is not very much compared to ipad pro 11" on specs. i have been wondering for a while if this thing is basically a 1:1 copy of the ipad pro pencil 2 running on android.

as for krita, i followed a spanish dude for it. you can change the font size, the radial menu size, even the gestures for tap, and slide fingers (1,2,3,4,5) and works pretty good. i only have on screen the layers and artist palette when i need it.

i pretty much only use it for either sketching on concepts, or lineart on krita, fill tool for lineart became extremely easier after the 5.2.1 update .

the last thing i did was buy a 8bitdo micro, and setup like 25+ shortcuts on it. i pair it in both pc and tablet and completely ignore keyboard and using the ui, except for zooming or rotating stuff on the tablet.

i believe suscriptions and the apple file system is enough reasons to ignore apple forever. everything is either paid suscription or has dlc inside, fuck that shit. on android they try it too but is much easier to get apk with everything unlocked.

>>7960937
it depends where are you going to use it, medium works best in laptops, but for a desktop screen you start fighting aspec ratios (best is 16:10, but is rarely used nowadays, 16:9 is the most common, specially in 24'' and 27'')

to be fair, you can pair a medium with 19.5'' up to 24'' and get a fairly good use. but from 27'' to 32'' always on 16:9, the discomfort from the size difference makes harder and harder to make precise straigh lines, or even worst curve lines. is not that sketching is the problem, inking lineart and tracing over become inecesarily harder.

Ever since i got my hands on a large model, i stick to it even with a 24'' monitor, just because the control in lineart is so much better.

I personally own a intuos 4 large, and 2013 pro large. They both work fine in windows 10 with krita, clip studio paint, concepts, no idea photoshop because fuck adobe, but seems like windows 11 has no support for them.

I would go for the cheaper intuos large you can find and pair ir with windows 10 , forget 11 is shit anyway.

The pen experience in SSS in wacom screenless tablets, and xp and huion at best get A+, in the latest models but those are screen tablets with 400-500+ usd pricetags.

>>7961045
>everything is either paid suscription or has dlc inside
Every app I use was a one-time purchase (procreate, asp, nomad, toonsquid, komic)

>>7961045
>on android they try it too but is much easier to get apk with everything unlocked.
How do I do this for CSP?

>>7961339
look for the reddit post explaining on how to use version 1.10 or something like that, is the only one in aware has a working method, but i find it rather pointless to be stuck on 1.1 while pc have 5.02 or 5.04 available.

as for the other one payment software, blender, clip studio paint, krita is all i usually use. i have toys like nomad or hipaint(procreate clone ) but they are fairly limited to go beyond sketching ideas. whatever i use, i need it to create individual project files in a folder to be able to sync with pc, and a android / pc compatible software. for 3d models i use blender and export as vroid format vrm, and use vrm viewers ( that include posing) in android.

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Anyone using an ipad with mac via sidecar? Rather than buying a proper graphics tablet I decided to try out the ipad I already own first by hooking it up to my mac so I could take advantage of my beautiful monitor. But when I tried it, it felt rather wonky when using my favorite program, Clip Studio Paint. Does anyone else use a setup like this, and do you have any tips?

Or should I just get a real drawing tablet that's mean to be hooked to a computer?

is the 2025 cintiq 24 worth getting? non-touch
I also want to maximize my credit card rewards so dont want to buy used if there's actual improvements

>>7925255
I just got 1,500 dollars. Should I get an M4 Ipad Pro 13 inch, M5 Ipad Pro or buy a Wacom MovinkPad Pro 14? My old Wacom Intuos Pro finally died on me. I want to use a display tablet for animation.

>>7961767
Ipads struggle with the sidecar feature. Even the most diehard apple artist shills say its an issue. You are better off getting a different display tablet if you are going to use clip studio paint.

>>7961867
I see. Thank you for your response. I will give the ipad one final valiant attempt, but I'll probably end up having to bite the bullet and get a real display tablet.

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>wacom pen broke after seven years of use
>can't use newer model pen so have to buy the same pen
>it's literally just as expensive as the day it released
Fucking hell Wacom...

>>7962981
>>7925255
>Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 10 years, nothing has changed.
How old is this sticky? Is it still true today?

>>7963057
Dont know. Could be true
But there is one very autistic anon that shrieks, cries and freaks out whenever someone removes that text or recommends chinkshit

is there a meaningful difference between ipad pro vs ipad air for drawing?

>>7963057
in anything other than the absolute toppest of the highest price ranges, chink tablets are on par or plainly superior to wacom at this point.
OP has been ran by a literal schizo wacom shill for a decade. it's best to ignore it.

>>7963251
Got it, thank you for answering. One more thing... are you Chinese?

>>7963265
I live in the most Germanic part of Ohio, have brown hair, blue eyes and my last name ends with a Z

I got a new/unopened kamvas 16 for free, what illustration software should I use with it? This thread is also the first time I'm hearing of Huion's being shit, so supposing it breaks, what should I replace it with? New to art and digital illustration in general

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>>7925255
>spending hundreds on a drawing tablet
kek when you can just use a mouse. picrel is what i made with one

>>7963392
Thanks for the inspo! I'll definitely be buying a drawing tablet now

>>7963275
Okay. I'm going to go cop a XP Pen Artist 13.3 Pro V2. If it's not good and you were wrong, I'm going to come find you. Online.

>>7963370
i would recommend either krita or clip studio paint. there is always 5.0.2 ex for free on windows, but the thing is, i have a tablet and for that reason i prefer krita, since i can run it on both pc/android without having to deal with the tablet suscriptions of csp, since there is no free version of it beside a very old one.

As for what to do first: boring stuff, like learning the software keyboard shortcuts and begginer tools. learn how to manage the presure curve and how the device (the pen, not the screen) actually works.

Seven pens recently made a stream where he goes about what the pen pressure curve do, (the driver one, the ''global'' in software, and finally the one that show ups inside each brush) and correct misconceptions that have been plaging the internet about what it do and what it doesn't do.

I believe no matter what the subject you want to pursue in art, learning how to grab the pen, how to control the thickness and how to move the arm (shoulder, fore arm, wrist as little as posible)

i would recommend to get the exercises of the first chapter of drawabox to heart. not the whole thing, just the beggining ones before the 250 box challenge (page with lines, circle, and ellipses). I always use those to check changes in my pen like pen pressure or the way i grab the pen or make lines from the shoulder to warmp up before drawing.

>>7963560
tbdesu there's a good chance that whatever gripes you find with it will be applicable to screened tablets, in general, period.
also $220 won't even get you a "decent" screenless tablet from wacom. They charge $130-150 for different models with an active area of only 8.5''x5.31'' and, lol, lmao, $250 for their "professional" 7.4''x4.1'' screenless tablet(with the 8.7''x5.8'' variant being $380). And if you want a larger active area than that you're locked to a $500 model.
so, I mean, it's not like you had much choice other than among other chink brands.

Does anyone here use a Samsung S8 Ultra? How hard do you have to press to draw? I swear I didn't have to apply any pressure, I could pretty much just skim the pen across the screen but now I must press down and I worry for my hand

>>7965018
look at teoh on tech reviews of multiple pens compatible as s-pen alternative. i believe you have a Staedtler pen and others things to try, like a metal tip + mate screen protector.

you also can check your actual pen pressure in a tool from seven pens github and compare results to saved data ( he stored all his pens, including s-pens), its called "WebPressureExplorer"

>>7964114
Hey thanks a lot for your reply anon. I hadn't thought at all about the pen or my arm technique, so I'll try the drawabox exercises and dial it in tomorrow. Cheers~

hypothetically, if I was considering purchasing a new cintiq pro and instead of selling my old 24 pro, I want to do a giveaway on here, how would I do that? should I do like an art contest or something? would people even trust a rando on 4chan enough to give them their address? Idk, it's nothing set in stone rn, just been thinking about a new cintiq and I rather my tablet go to someone who can appreciate it here than sell it or pawn it off

>>7966000
Well, no, you would just do a first-come first-serve kind of thing. And since I'm the first one to claim it, you would give it to me. I don't make the rules, that's just how you do it here.

>>7966067
Yeah sure thing anon, just post your address here and I'll send it on over

>>7965018

i use S9 ultra, though had another tablet from s8 series, can't tell the difference when it comes to drawing... s-pen can be weird. i want to say every tablet pen is personalized, if not at the start by the end, but some ones more so, s-pen and styluses adjacent to wacom one digitizers (...though the digitizer predates wacom one itself) more so. when i first get it, i have to actually make an effort to press lightly, mind you i'm already lighthanded, but by the end i have to press harder... that being said i had to press way harder on other tablets before. as far as i know titanium nibs have the potential to destroy a stylus. i myself use them on 4 styluses. worst and only offender is lamy al-star emr. it's the best pen i've ever used regarding drawing, never handled any titanium nibs i bought for it well... current one is actually stuck, can't even get it out by a tweezer, it skips on occasion.

>>7966169

actually nevermind. i had to get it out by fucking scissors, succeeded without injuring myself somehow. inserted the nib that didn't fit and it somehow fits now... that being said i haven't used any titanium nibs with my first s-pen and it essentially died because i had to press down hard to get any pressure at all. i think dropping the stylus and frequently using it mid to hardhandedness, especially with titanium nibs, just hastens the process.

Anybody know if the old wacom pens are compatible with their nice 14in tablet? I'm getting one and would love to use my old pro pen 2

>>7925255

Would it be a stupid idea to use an ipad mini for a travel art tablet?

My used huion tablet is starting to fall apart. Thinking of getting a screenless tablet since they're cheaper and should last longer + better for your neck. Is it worth getting if I have really shaky hands? Does the fact that vertical and horizontal movement are at different sensitivies ever become a problem?

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Is there really any reason to get the iPad Pro over the iPad Air?
I know the Pro has better specs, but the price difference doesn't seem worth it to me.
Thoughts?

does anyone have experience with huion tablets on linux? thinking about getting the kamvas 22 gen 3 with the sale going on right now, but i moved away from windows completely about a year ago and i'm wondering how it will perform. it looks like they provide driver support for ubuntu, but i'm on an arch-based distro.

>>7972058
if your tablet digitizer is supported by opentabletdriver on linux then you're good, no need to install vendor drivers.

I want to get something portable so I can doodle while laying in bed. Should I get an iPad? Something else? Any considerations I should keep in mind?

>>7971745
not at all, but ipad mini is one of those equipment that does everything in "good enough" range, but I can't say its the most comfortable drawing experience because its small. I carry it to write and to draw, but only if I am on the move a lot and had to use it in public places, like you have to hold it on your hand or prop it against arm rest or something. If you are traveling and has the luxury of more spacious desk then you can probably get away with something bigger.

Is there any good vesa stand specifically for large drawing tablets, specifically Huion Kamvas Pro 27? I don't have a desk that can mount an arm and I'm not sure if a stand made for regular monitors will work for drawing.

looking at getting a larger pen tablet from my h610pro2, the giano has 40cm by 26cm of working space which seems nice, but are there any comparisons of the same size range from other brands like xp pen or something else?

>>7925256
I had to disassemble the pen for mine to manually turn the pen tip inside that's connected by the sodered wires, makes it a lot more sensitive but you're gonna need to readjust sensitivity using CSP or some other program.

>dtk2200 took a shit
Seems like a common issue, no power LED on the screen itself, tried a new adapter. Did a bit of reading, apparently there's display board caps or a transistor? I've never fucked with pcb soldering but I've been wanting to learn. Anyone fuck with this before?

Huion is truly awful

>>7976079
What happened this time, anon?

>>7971970
bump

>>7977320
there is basically no drawing apps that runs on Air that would stress that device unless you are particularly excessive with it, like making a image at 1200 dpi at the size that cover the side of a building. Otherwise, maybe a 120hz screen, but you won't miss it. Although if you want it at that price range things to consider also Movink 14 or used Tab-S Ultra 8-10, however its annoying that for many drawing apps the android's file system is pretty locked down for some reason.

>>7977320
well the pros will hold their resale value better if you ever plan on selling it

>>7976079
Posts and doesn't explain anything.

i've been wondering, is there an independent drawing tablet repair and modding scene? i've only seen port replacements, soldering for devices without ports, and some instances of intuos to cintiq conversions...

>>7925255
The new Wacom moveink pad pro 14 is is comparable in price to an iPad pro and is android+ Wacom pro pen 3. I think it's better than the iPad pros now imo

i rember this thread was dominated by some autist sperging about how this old wacom model was the best and shiet
do you guy know which model it was? i'm too lazy to look at the archives

>>7979456
>android
Eh. I've had bad experiences with Android quality control in the past. So the OS isn't a selling point to me.

>>7977348
>like making a image at 1200 dpi
Don't be confused, dpi refers to OUTPUT quality, meaning the quality of what is printed. What you need to watch out for in terms of performance is canvas resolution, which is measured in pixel dimensions, for example 4000x4000.

I'm stuck using my iPad as a screen drawing tablet with my computer through the use of Sidecar. It works but it's janky. I can't find a job so I can't buy anything. I hope my school grants me financial aid for the fall semester so I can use the remainder to get a proper display tablet :(

In the meantime, I'm looking at the XP Pen 15.6(?) or something like that. Anyone use it? I have read some concerning things about it ceasing to function after a couple of months of owning it.

>>7979744
yeah but I do setup my files in physical dimensions, typically 9"x6" at 350 dpi, this is to accommodate the size of scanned items that I usually used to do my sketches on. I will do this with A4 pages as well, and if I were to scan it at 1200 dpi it will result in a canvas actual pixel size of over 9000 x 14000.. while I haven't done that in a while I suspect only my desktop handle that comfortably.

I can buy a new Wacom One M (2020) for 65 bucks and a Wacom One M (2025) for 109 bucks.

Im a total beginner. I should just buy the 2020 one right?

Is there a screen protector for wacom which reduces the sun glare? I really don't want to to use the blinders every time to make dark in the room so I can draw.

>>7925255
What about cheaper samsmug like A11+?

I got the most recent Wacom Intuos, the smallest one.

While I expected a screenless tablet to be a learning curve (I am used to ipad), I wasn't expecting the small size to also be a problem. Did I screw up? Or is something you could get used to with practice?

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I'm trying to make a decision for my first screen tablet
My options are either a XP-PEN Artist pro 16 Gen 2 or a Huion Kamvas Pro 16

Anyone have any experience with them? hows the pen tracking? screen? etc.
I'm not buying Wacom, cant afford it, and even if I could its too much for me to justify.

>>7982632
You buy used wacom dumbass

>>7982667
which one.

>>7982672
Cintiq 22 or 16, plenty of used options on the market, far better quality products than anything chinese

>>7982674
but I dont want used stuff.

>>7982687
And that's what makes you dumb. Not smart enough to realize a used good quality product will always provide better value for money than a cheaply made "new" product.

>>7961810
I'd say so. I can't say how it stacks against previous models, but when I bought it I suspected the 2.5k resolution wouldn't be enough (having used a Huion GT-221 Pro, which was blurry as shit) but after using it for a bit I'm not left wanting - 4k res would be ideal but what you get feels like 'enough'.
It's not a deal breaker either when you factor in overall panel clarity (colour/contrast etc.) the surface texture feel when drawing (it's fucking perfect as far as I'm concerned) or how the pro pen 3 performs (It's fucking perfect, I say that as a matter of objective fact having used pen-tech 4.0 on a kamvas 16 gen 3, which is really good on it's own, but the feather-light activation on the pro-pen 3 is in it's own league) or the fact this screen has hardly any parallax/cursor offset out the box, the least out of anything I've used, anyways.
Just fucking buy it nigger.

>>7982674
>>7982667
>buying used shit

>>7982768
hey, i bought a used phone, it's the same thing. just clean it and after a week you'll forget that it's used

>>7982626
yeah the small ones are just too small. hard to make fluid strokes. most of your strokes will come from your wrist leading to overuse injuries. unless you are a small girl with wrists of steel, get a medium or larger one.

>>7979456
Unfortunately for some mysterious reason Wacom decided not to sell that model in my country, oh well.

>>7979456
The only issue with the Movinkpad is you have the double whammy issue of Wacom refusing to update Android software on their smart devices, and CSP dropping support for older versions of Android. It's entirely possible that you'll be completely unable to use CSP on this tablet 2 years from now due to both companies being assholes about it, and Wacom in particular is probably going to promote a 2nd gen Movinkpad to "fix" the issue instead of updating Android like they should.

>>7983185
Maybe this new regulation will force them to provide updates:
https://www.androidpolice.com/eu-new-rules-will-shake-up-android-update-policies

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>>7979456
i had ipad air 13 and movinkpad 14 for while and for drawing movinkpad is better. But ipad os have much more stuff in it, also it feels like app situation is better on ipads. Not to mention APU, wacom have midrange snapdragon that u can buy for 1/3 of price they are asking, ipads are much better.
U can also add to that os updates, also much better on ipad, u can add accessories, also much better on ipad, u cant buy folio case for wacom so u have to carry around portable stand all the time.
Wacom had better screen but vs ipad pro i think it still loses that battle.1 extra inch is super nice, in CSP with cramped UI i can add for example floating window with reference, on 13 inch ipad it was too cramped for my taste, coming from 16inch desktop stuff tho.

>>7983787
good points, but to add to the comparison: movinkpad comes with a textured anti-glare screen by default, but with the ipad you need to buy the $2500 model

>>7982933
Shoot. I need to shell out more cash. I doubt Amazon will give me a refund. But it's for the best.

I see a it of people complaining about small tablets, but does anyone like them? I ask because I really only have three options:
>get a cheap small wacom
>spend more than 3x the price on a medium wacom
>spend the same price on a medium Chinese tablet as I would spend on the small Wacom, but it's a Chinese brand without as much price in quality or "japanese engineering" (maybe I am just falling for the marketing haha...) and a lot of people complain about the Chinese brands not working after a few months or having bubbles appear in the tablet surface

In an ideal world I would get used to the small tablet... no?

>>7984680
unless you like drawing from your wrist or fingers and don't have any pain from doing that, small ones just suck. buy used, they are often half the price of new. people give up on drawing after using it only a couple of times so there are plenty of barely used ones. otherwise just save up for a medium or larger one. new chinese ones are fine, but you can get sent a dud. a couple of youtubers I watch had to send theirs back, some even multiple times. the cables and ports can be fragile, so don't move it around if you can help it. if you buy a chinese one buy it through amazon since their return policy is less hassle.

>>7984735
Buying a Chinese one sounds like playing roulette desu

Dude, I'm really eyeing the XP Pen Deco 01 V3 because of its price and its size. If I want a comparable size from Wacom, I gotta shell out 3x the amount of money which I just can't afford (and have been unable to find a job for like 1.5 years now).

The problem is, I tend to go to the 1-star reviews on Amazon to see what people have encountered, and people are saying the drawing tablet crashes(!) and has other strange glitches. This is what my stereotype is of chinese electronics, but I have never bought a chinese drawing tablet.

Does anyone have this one or have experience using it? I'm on a mac.

>>7985122
Get a Wacom One M (2020) for the same price. Universally the best beginner drawing tablet for a very affordable price. You still find them new at around 50-60 bucks and half that if you're willing to get scourge eBay for a used one. Keep in mind that the Deco 01 has a shitty pen and horrible software. One M is plug and play, download the latest drivers and you're good to go.

>>7985139
Just found one on ebay, thanks bud

Has anyone here drawn on both screens for the latest Wacom Cintiq Pro lineup and the recent Huion Kamvas Pro lineup? I'm a bit unsatisfied with how slippery the screen is on the Kamvas Pro I recently bought and I'm wondering if the newest Cintiq Pros have rougher, more paper-like screens.

>>7927729
What made you think I wanted to buy one, Chinese freak?

>>7987007
wacom schizo replying posts from 2 months ago lmao

>>7986950
>rougher, more paper-like screens
How many nibs can you afford per day?

>>7987364
A lot. Anyway, I need to know if the Cintiqs are rougher than the Kamvases or not.

>>7987382
You'll have to pay me for the answer then.

purchased an xp deco v01 years ago to replace a nonfunctioning wacom bamboo, and at this point it's issues have become more glaring as I need to use it more now...

I guess my question is, do I just need to learn to adapt to a screened tablet? It seems like the screenless is going away.

>>7933375
i heard procreate is coming to desktops, which could be pretty sweet
NTA but i actually did get a movink on a whim and it taught me two things
1: wacoms pen and tablet feel is completely unmatched. it might be unecessary, but nothing compares.
2: software matters a lot and might matter more to me than the objective quality of the hardware. procreate is just such a good program for just drawing, i really struggle to go back to krita despite the apple pencil kind of sucking

>>7925255
Is there any tablet in the market right now that is legit better than the original Intuos 4?

I bought an Artist pro 16 Gen 2 and its the best thing ever.
Fuck you whoever told me to get a used wacom
Absolutely fucking kill yourself.

I got perfectly used to the small tablet and using my wrist right before the medium tablet arrived. Now I'm not used to the medium tablet and my lines are wobbly because I have to use my arm. It's over.

>>7989706
>Artist pro 16 Gen 2
Is it really 3.88 Kilograms or does that include all of the accessories? Because that's fucking heavy for just a 16" touch screen.

>>7989706
I wanted to get one of those but I read too many reviews where it would brick after a couple months. I'm like very suspicious of chinese tech now.

>>7989784
Yes it is.
Its sturdy.
>>7989831
Cant say for myself but a friend owned one for months now and he never had a problem with it.

>>7989706
i have it and used it. it goes to sleep after 5 min of being idle and the only way to turn it back on is to disconnect and reconnect the cable. i'm never buying a knock-off again.
also tired of using a screen tablet. i hate how my hand blocks the drawing AND the ui elements, and it's such a chore to tap tiny ui elements

>>7989901
Fix your PC because the tablet has nothing to do with that. its just a display.

>>7989901
lmao

been a while since i looked at drawing tablets, is wacom still the best brand?

>>7990299
Yeah. The current situation seems to be that the chinese ones are catching up.

>>7990347
i see, and have they released any interesting tablets lately?

the wacom cintiq pro seem way to costly, is the cintiq 16 good enough?

Thoughts on the Artist Pro 27? How does it compare to the Kamvas Pro?

Anyone here buy a dedicated drawing pad like an iPad or MovinkPad? Did the portability and convenience make you draw more often?

>>7992245
Baught your mom a hot dog lmfaoooo

>>7992245
I got an ipad. Not for portability, but because it was a relatively cheap option at the time for drawing on a screen. (I was using a screenless tablet befor that.)

The portability did not make me draw more, because i get self conscious when drawing around people. But it did probably help me to draw more, because I was getting frustrated with the screenless tablet and the screen felt kinda like a relief. I probably would have had more times where I wanted to draw but then thought about the hassle of the screenless tablet and decided to not draw that day, if not for the ipad.

But, well, I'm back on a screenless tablet now and I kinda prefer it these days. Lol

>>7988034
>Procreate on desktop
Barely any display tablets have touch, though

>>7990370
Interest is subjective. But in my case. I would be perfectly happy with the Intuos Pro. But I can't justify spending $300 when I can't find a job.

>>7992645
lmfao why no job artshit
why don't you just learn ai lolllllllllll
twitter furry loser

>>7993031
Lmao
But I'm a computer science major. So no job. Lol

>>7993038
just integrate ai into your workflow or indian shitcock gherkin jerker compscis are too stupid?

>>7925255
Is it worth switching to a display tablet after using screenless for ~7 years now? I’ve been using the same shitty generic 10x6” $20 chinese tablet for years and now with a 27” 1440p monitor its pretty comfy, but honestly display tablets have been tempting me for a long time now, but I feel like if I switch now I’ll just end up underwhelmed and disappointed.

>>7971970
dont fall for ic memes. ipads suck and procreate is garbage. complete waste of time and money.

>>7994790
the real update for you would be the intuos pro large 2017 or 2013, and a real 10bit or (8 + fcr) display for better colors, either 4k or 1440p with 120hz refresh rate.

there is no point going for a screen unless you are also in need to do lineart and want to use touch gestures for zoom and rotation.