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I dunno i like my small huion

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>>7925255
I thought drawing with a capacitive stylus on a cheap tablet without active stylus support would be a subpar compromise, but to my surprise my experience has been great and I haven't felt the need to "upgrade" at all, this was a nice surprise.

So have the chong brands gotten any better over the years or

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>krita now has HDR display
So, is there a tablet that displays HDR yet? Preferably HDR1000

>>7926027
gimmick

I was thinking of getting the s10 lite but I would probably just trade it in for like s12 later in the year and knock off like $20 bucks.

>>7925999
yeah, most of wacom patents expired so the other brands are 90% as good for half the price.
just buy from amazon for better return policies in case you get a bad unit.

Getting a wacom intuos medium? Would the pro version be a good investment?

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Anyone here with a Xppen Deco LW/L? I've read it has some diagonal wobble. How bad is it?

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>>7927680
Don't care still want one.
If your hand isn't glowing due to the brightness of the actually, physically bright sun you're drawing then you might as well stop drawing altogether and play with matchbox cars.

I’m using a tablet without touch, and Wacom express remote. How are we supposed to rotate the canvas in different directions fast without pressing the rotate button on the software ? I feel like touch is needed. I’m considering getting an iPad Pro.

>>7927886
You have a remote. Program rotate to one of the buttons.

>>7926027
>>7927680

>yes, please triple the file size of my PNG for full human color range that won't really be apparent to the naked eye and will also cause compatibility issues with certain devices.

remember when samsung phones would get bricked if you set a non-sRGB wallpaper?

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>>7927931
>won't really be apparent to the naked eye

>>7927930
So rotate left and right on the buttons or keep it on the touch wheel?

>>7927967
This video isn't playing on my computer

>>7928028
Upgrade your browser from NetScape.

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>>7925255
forgive me for huion posting but i have the most insufferable issue ever and wondering if anyone has come across it? going to just return the tablet if i cant get it sorted, but essentially:

whenever the USB portion of my 3-in-1 cable is plugged into my pc, i get this insane stuttering that means i cant even complete a full circle with the line breaking and glitching straight - as in, not following my movement.

>>7931062
I can't help you unfortunately but which model is that? I want to avoid getting it.

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>>7931066
oh yeah i gave very little details oops -

i bought a refurbished huion kamvas 16 gen 3.. it's a shame because i had a pro 24 before this which i loved and had virtually no problems with u.u

>>7931062
does it do it in other programs?

>>7931069
it does it across my entire pc - it affects my mouse too. its like every 3-7 seconds theres that micro stutter. if i move my mouse in a circle i get the exact same effect, its not exclusive to the pen / clip studio. and it *only* occurs when the USB portion of the 3-in-1 cable is plugged in. if the hdmi and the power cable are in it wont happen, if the usb cable goes into my pc it will happen. I have also tried every single port, ive tried freeing up USB slots, ive even swapped cables thinking that was the issue but alas.

>>7931062
have you tried uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling them ?

really tempted to get the movink 14 pro but i will sit my goy ass down and restrain myself from making unnecessary purchases

>>7931174
about a million times, also no different to when i use open tablet drivers either

YO I'm planning to buy a screened can anybody confirm if using it without the display like a normal pen tablet has lag? I only want to use it for detailing

>>7925259

Which device is this?

>>7927886
Learn to draw without rotating

>>7931178
>no Procreate
A waste of money

>>7933375
I use Krita on the desktop anyways so I would feel right at home : - )
but also even on the ipad i use fresco and not procreate

>>7933376
Adobe Fresco is also iPad only

>>7933383
and so is procreate. what I was trying to say that even using the only product that supports procreate I would still not chose procreate.
hope this clears things up for you

>>7933386
But there is nothing else that is good in a tablet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyRYpdkTKOE
I gotta get a 27 incher

https://a.co/d/01zk4Ubl
Is this good for a total /beg/ like me?

>>7933593
Unironically too damn big, the touch screen seems nice though.

>>7933593
I don't trust XP Pen with anything more expensive than a Deco pen tablet

>>7933743
You only say that because you got a small table

Hey bros, trying to get a drawing tablet but I want a bigger screen with a higher res than the 15.6 inch display on my old XP-Pen Artist. I was thinking about trying Huion Kamvas 22(Gen3). My budget is around $750. Anyone try this model?https://a.co/d/0cxsEJh9

>>7934797
I have the Huion 27 Pro (60hz). It has Pen Tech 4.0.

I really do like it. Before i bought it, i had a huion with pen tech 3, and the pressure response/initial activation force sucked. I genuinely just took a gamble buying the 27 and dont regret it, its really great. If it was bad i was going to return it lol.

What i like is that it also came with a fat and thin pen, so i didnt have to buy a thin pen which is my preference.

>>7931178
it was goy ass unnecessary purchase for me. But i like it much more than ipad for drawing. for rest tablet and computing stuff its like bad to really bad. And wish screen coating was more rough. I like pen and paper and coming from that its pain to use, so slippery

>>7934896
Use the felt tip for the stylus if you aren't doing so already.

>>7934840
I wish theyd make some pentech 4.0 inspiroys or something, been using a kamvas pro 24 4k for a few years now but recently switched to using a inspiroy 2 L because I like screenless tablets better
>why on earth would you do that
i can lean back in my chair and relax with the tablet on my lap, its also more convenient when using it with blender since I never liked dragging blender over to the kamvas. I'm also one of those people that arent bothered by the disconnect it introduces and I hated having to wear drawing gloves so I wouldnt smudge the screen.

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>>7925255
I'm between getting a XP Pen Deco 01 V3 or a Wacom Intuos Pro. I've read XP Pen got higher pressure sensitivity numbers, but what about quality, does it hold just as good or even better than a wacom?

So how bad exactly is the fan on the Cintiq Pro 27? Should I wait for Wacom to make a fanless version?

>>7935941
I've got a Deco 01 V3 and a Wacom One (screen, 13.3 inch) I bought in 2023. I don't see a difference in terms of pressure sensitivity. In fact, the most glaring difference between the two is how hard I have to press on the Deco 01 compared to the Wacom. In terms of drawing accuracy or wobbling or whatever, I don't notice a difference.

>>7935941
i used to use an intuos pro L for 6 years but I recently switched to a xenselabs for half the price and i don't think im ever gonna go back until wacom realizes $500 for a screenless tablet is insane when everyone else is charging 1/10-1/2 that for the same thing

Still using my 21UX. Feels good.

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>>7936281
>the most glaring difference between the two is how hard I have to press on the Deco 01
Really? could it be a settings thing? wacom's factory settings makes pressing harder than it should.
>>7936314
Price is a good point too.

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My campus has a professor selling a used Cintiq 27QHD in good condition for $300, should I get it? My current tablet is a Huion

>>7936425
I just read about it and it turns out the Deco 01 has a higher IAF than other tablets of its time. (The V3 seems to be basically identical to its predecessor)

>>7936457
what kind of huion? if you mean a recent kamvas pro then no unless you have something like a 13 or 16". if its an older one thats still on pentech 2.0 then sure

I found a listing of Wacom Intuos Pro small (pth460 or something) in mint condition for $115. Is that a fair price or should I lowball it?

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do i?

>>7936531
>higher IAF
>10 times the amount you need on a wacom (3 gr)
It's remarkable, but does it make a change in the real world?, I mean, 30 gr of force is still quite short.

>>7936808
It's very noticeable to me. It doesn't make it harder to draw or anything like that, but it's less pleasant. It feels like I have to press forcefully to do what light gliding does on the Wacom. I'd also say the nibs would wear out faster, but you can get bags of like 50 of those, so.

Sorry for asking here, I'm a total beginner and I want a pen display just for doodling. I saw a xp-pen artist 12 (2nd gen) on fb marketplace, is it any good? My main usage is just for making handwritten fonts for manga scanlation.

>>7936703
an intuos pro small is incredibly tiny and basically only meant for use on 13" laptops by people too dumb to buy a huion or xp-pen

my cintiq just arrived but i don't have a usb-c port or a mini-hdmi - hdmi cable cause i'm not a laptopmongrel this is bullshit, they don't even send you nibs or gloves it's just the fucking screen without the essential cables EL OH EL

>>7936795
Are you a woman? Yes. Are you not a woman? No get the 19 incher, you don't need a stand the screen already comes with one of the best stands attached to it

Just upgraded to a 13 inch ipad pro from an ipad mini 6, its like 2 lbs and 2.5x the size. Any stand or mount recommendations, seems to be very little credible information online...

>>7938148
Parblo PR 100, it has great stability and viewing angles

Has anyone noticed how fucking awful the drawing surface in wacom intuos is? I first bought one in around 2018, that lasted a few years before an area on the tablet straight up wouldnt draw. I then bought a basically brand new intuos from a thrift store and it didn't even last a year before theres multiple spots on the tablet that won't pick up my drawing. This is not an issue of me pressing too hard or not changing nibs.
Also recs for a new screenless tablet dont rec gaomon I've tried them they SUCK

Is there any 3d printing files of button cover for Intuos5L? mine is falling off due of its age

>>7931062
Check your USB cable specifications, I had this issue with my XP pen tablet that I tracked down to the cable. In my case my tablet needs USB 3.1 gen 1 at least superspeed at 5gb/s I bought a longer cable and it only registers as high speed which is 480 mb/s.
I could not find anything on the Internet about this. With any hubs or splitting in between could exasperate this issue. On the Internet artists always say defective send back or reinstall the drivers.
You have to buy a properly rated USB cable which I have found to be a massive pain in the ass as cables on Amazon don't really show this information. Usually the one that comes with it will be properly rated. You can also double check in the OS for what speed your cable is connected at.

>>7939076
To add to this, in my case with that big speed differential I got massive stuttering a lot more then yours.
What I would do, is if your using a different cable then the one it came with plug that one in and see if the problem still persists. If it doesn't then check the speeds registered by the OS of each of the cables.
What's frustrating is that it fails silently with no warning to the user. There's nothing to bubble up from the driver of it failing to transfer data fast enough, so I assume it just silently drops USB frames and you get stuttering.

>>7933095

>shit-talks on an entire brand of tablets
>too much of a pussy to name the device so that people can avoid it

>>7925259
>>7939677
>Calibrates the device like a retard
>DUDE the stylus doesn't line up! So much for Chinese tablets.
This video doesn't prove anything.

hey tabletheads,
I was looking at buying a new laptop for writing
but it occurred to me that since laptop keyboards suck I could instead buy a tablet + nice bluetooth keyboard and have a better typing experience while also doubling as a drawing device.
is that a stupid idea y/n?

Are 8th gen iPads still alright for drawing with Procreate? What benefits would I be sacrificing over an iPad Pro other than screen size?

Good stand for Wacom CTL-6100K-B? I want to keep the tablet at an angle so I'd stop resting my forearm on the desk, it restricts my shoulder movement.

>have ipad pro and galaxy tab ultra
>ended up just going back to my kamvas 22 plus
1080p SUCKS but having a big canvas and being able to draw with my arm can't be beat.

Considering buying a refurbished high-end tablet, as an upgrade. Are there any preferred sites for refurbished tablets, or should I just hit up Ebay and return it if it's shit?

>>7925255
How's an xp pen artist 12 3rd Gen? I'm looking for a display (non android) tablet that won't put me through a financial turmoil.

>>7943185
could you elaborate on the 22'' preference? i usually draw in a intuos large, but since i changed to a 31.5'' monitor, for painting is not really a problem thanks to the 10 bit color... but precise lineart really got a lot more complicated.

My options where a old used galaxy tab s8 ultra 14'', a huion kamvas 16'' 2.5k or a kamvas 22 plus.

im pretty familiar using the intuos large on a 24'' display, so i believe 22 is fairly close to adapt.

>>7926027
the problem is that
artists learned the tone mapping the most informal way possible with lots of heuristics and that on top of currently fucked HDR pipeline overall will make everything significantly worse
i cannot think most of artists, even the /pro/ ones are barely capable of properly using that shit besides eye-screeching for the sake of wow factor

>>7944516
even HDR in games are broken and i have no idea what all the craze behind HDR is when the most implementation are blind of viewing condition that uses some assumed approximation or anchors to absolute brightness which is honestly horrible to look at
i blame TV manufacturers

destroyed my Ugee m518 in a drunken stupor a couple years ago, got myself Ugee M908 and it's still the best budget tablet manufacturer
FUCK xppen, FUCK huion (lmao)
and doubly fuck szajsung and wacum

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>>7944516
>i don't think most artists are capable of properly using that shit besides eye-screeching for the sake of wow factor
There was a brief moment on Twitter where I figured out how to upload HDR images onto it using updated ICC v4.4 profiles that weren't properly sanitized by Twitter's encoders. Then the shitposters discovered this and created flashbombs and Twitter retroactively stripped the images and prevented future images uploaded to the platform from having this effect, at least in-feed. You can still click on the images and get the HDR, but that kind of defeats the point.
Which is a shame because I think I do HDR in an actually tasteful manner (for the most part). Though, my workflow involves painting in a linear colorspace that's displayed to me in tonemapped SDR. Usually, if it looks good in SDR, it ends up looking good in HDR, provided I use the same family of tonemapping
I guess I'll just stick to painting on a screenless tablet on my HDR monitor, or Sunshine/Moonlighting into my android tablet and painting that way.

>>7944819
yeah that is the correct mental model but it is something of a pure technical side one needs to understand

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noticing a weird thing on my s8 ultra where sometimes there will be colors if i'm just painting with dark grey/black. why is that? i can't take a screenshot because it's a graphical thing. using superdisplay so that probably has a lot to do with it

Thinking of getting a Samsung Tablet but haven't decided on which one. There's so many god damn models. Thinking about the S10FE. Am I missing out on anything if I go with FE over the + or 11?

I want to avoid buying used.

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>>7945328
I started watching more reviews. What the fuck, the S9 owns.

>>7945328
Yeah better screen and hardware. The FE id fine if you just doodle

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>>7945351
I was planning on doing more than doodling but now I'm trapped in a choice paralysis. I could spring for the S11. God I hate being retarded.

>>7945361
idk. I would just go for the S model if you can. The FE is pretty severely gimped if I remember correctly. But the S pen works with it so if it's all you can do I'm sure you'll be fine once you learn its limitations.

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>>7945364
I just took the shot and bought an S11. Hope it gets here in time before I leave for the weekend.

>>7945381
I think you'll be glad. It'll last a lot longer too. I still really like my S9

>>7945328
>>7945335
Unless you're gayming why the fuck would you get a Samsung tablet when the Movink exists?
t. have a S9 Ultra

>>7945541
Bigger screen

>>7945541
Bigger screen, 120hz, built in camera, and I don't trust Wacom with android updates. They're already behind. There's also way more third party accessories with Samsung than Wacom.

Has anyone tried using their Samsung tablet on Windows 10/11 using screen mirroring? I've had the S10 Ultra tab for years now but I'd rather work on my computer with it than use it as a standalone.

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I got deco 01 v3 today and all is fine except one thing that makes it unusable
when I press buttons on the tablet, 90% of the time it just freezes and stops working
replugging or restarting xppen app restores it

But the buttons cannot be used at all
I tried fuckign with windows ink (win 10) with no effect, removed old drivers, tried USB-C and 2 USB-A slots, no cigar

>>7945527
>>7945634
I ended up having buyers remorse. Not because of price or anything. I just found it too small. I returned it. Best part is that Amazon is refunding me the full amount to my card even though I used $250 in gift cards to buy it. I'm going to be buying the Ultra instead.
>>7945541
The S11 Ultra is currently on sale for the same price as a Movink 14. From what I've seen, it's fine for art but falls flat on everything else. The screen being texture out of the box is nice, but then it's kind of a waste if you slap a protector on it. I've seen videos of it chugging too in more complex pieces. Maybe if it were cheaper I'd consider it, but when the Ultra is at the same price, I think I'll stick with the Ultra.

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>>7944502

Hey anon, I use an Intuos Pro M and work on a 27 inch monitor, I wouldn't consider it. I bought a Cintiq 22 for the same reason thinking it would help with faster lines, but the displays on any non-pro display tablets are noticeably dogshit compared to my ProArt monitor that is calibrated out the box. I ended up returning the cintiq because it ended up being kinda pointless.
If you're open to the idea of using a stand for your Intuos so you aren't drawing on a flat surface where it's hard to make precise lines, I would try that instead. I saw a JP artist work using this method and tried it, way more comfortable than using it normally and I don't struggle with lines as much anymore.

>>7946332
try lifting the pen so it doesn't interact with the tablet and then use the buttons
annoying and requires forming unnecessary habit, but works most of the time

>>7946361
Probably a good call. Bigger screen is always a good thing

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Got my Ultra and its great. I'm glad I went with the larger size, otherwise it would all feel too cramped.

I got a Bellmond Paper Screen protector for it and it's wonderful. I never liked drawing on glass but I was gonna suck it up and learn, but this solved my problem. Only issue I have is the case that I got is so fucking snug it pushes through inbetween the protector and screen and actually peel it off. Even when I try my best to get it over the protector, the squeeze is so tight, it pushes it up at the lip that it causes air bubbles to pop up. Anyone with an S11 Ultra got any case recs?

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I've been using a tablet as an extra monitor and occasional light art duty for the past 5 years or so and it's finally crapped out recently (need to un/replug it after comp comes out of Sleep, edges turn white occasionally, and random disconnects) and I'm looking to side- or upgrade. Pic related is what I was using, an XP-PEN Artist15.6 Pro, recommended to me by a friend and I've been happy with it up until now.

What's out there these days which is similar in price (~$300ish, ideally, but if it's really solid I could go higher) and at least the same resolution (1920x1080)? I'm also not really happy with the XPPen's weird ass "3-in-1" USB and HDMI and extra power connection, so something simpler would be great. I'm not married to the 15.6" but anything smaller seems like it would feel too small for me.

Some quick searching led me to the Huion Kamvas 16 GEN3, and I'm seeing people elswhere say Huion is way better than XPPen, but based on the comments here that seems at least partially untrue and that Huion have their own set of problems?

I am going back to drawing as a hobby is buying refurbished Ipad Pro m2 13'' worth it? Is it overkill?

>>7935941
Haven't tried the XP Pen but I have Intuos pro large and I'm very happy with it. Gotta break the surface in though, at the beginning it eats nibs up quick.

Good inclined stand for a CTL-6100WL? I don't like having my wrist on the desk, it restricts my shoulder movements.

>>7925255
Fellas niche hardware related question.
I have a Kamvas 13 and I just got a fancy laptop, so I decided it's finally time to get a nice USB-C cable for it
Does ANY cable that matches the specs of the Huion one work on it? or do I have to specifically get the Huion cable?

Worth it to get an iPad for procreate? I use a galaxy and I'm not wild about any of the current drawing apps

>>7952582
Procreate is good but not THAT good, personally I use Clip Studio because Procreate intentionally lacks a weird colection of features like a gradient tool

>>7952712
I can't find a good pencil for csp. They're all terrible.

For those of you with screenless tablets, how long did it take you to get use to using it?

>>7952838
i went from practicing in my sketchbook to now using a huion screenless tablet
and i think i prefer it over using an actual full tablet, it might be cope but idk

anybody using huion in dual display setup with csp? i have this issue that when i toggle displays via pen, csp is not focusing (keyboard shortcuts dont work) despite being able to draw

Is it normal for the cursor to shake when doing slow lines sometimes? I'm using a 5 year old screenless and I can't remember if I've ever had this problem before. It could just be something new about my drawing method so is this normal?

>>7952838
a week but it depend the tablet and monitor size those a re very important

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Got a free Lenovo 2 in 1. Are they worth using as a drawing tablet? This is coming from someone that has never used one before.

>>7952838
for example, if i were to use a large intuos (basically a rectangle similar to A4 size) with a 16'' laptop screen, you are almost ratio 1:1 in both the size of the tablet and the size of the screen.

i mostly learned digital drawing in the begining with a huion medium size tablet (10x6) and a 24'' 1080p monitor, and thats more like 2:1 ratio, it means when 1 draw a straight line of 10 cm, i get 20cm on screen. you have to practice doing circles and straigh lines to get acustomed to it, but not mindlessly watching tv doodling. its about acuracy practice.

I was at the time finishing doing the drawabox first chapter in paper (the boxes challenge), drawing boxes, circles and elipses in 3 pages.
I moved to digital and started just doing the same warmup exercises.

After a couple of years on this setup, i moved to a large intuos 4, and recently, to a 32'' screen.

The thing i did, was to activate the precision mode (wacom drivers), that allows you to ''draw a rectangle'' inside your monitor, and use just that as active area. I did a rectangle in size like a real 24'' monitor space, and when im doing lineart, i use that instead of the full 32'' area to draw, just because i've use that for longer and i'm more comfortable.

If you persist and do your daily acuracy warmup practice, i believe you need like a month to get the hang of it, but just doing the warmup drawabox for around 1 hour, and then check and mark with red your acuracy mistakes. is a boring method but after a week you most likely can do it mechanicaly from memory.

what's the best screenless tablet at around $150 or less?
I've got a huion hs611 that has been perfectly adequate but the USB port(on the tablet side) is trying its absolute best to kill itself(basically need the cable in in just the right way/angle/with specific pressure applied or it disconnects), and while I could just get another they don't offer the color I had anymore and that's annoying.
at the moment I'm looking at the 11' xppen deco pro, but not really sure if there's any weird random as fuck models I'm missing or if the deco pro has weird issues.

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>>7956102
I mean, if you already have it you might aswell experiment with it and see if it works for you, I personally prefer how you can detach the keyboard on a traditional tablet, but if this works for you then good.

Lost my apple pencil. Really annoyed

>>7946571
I have this stand and it's great

>>7957003
i own a hs611 and i can say, is B tier at best, due to how initial activation force on pen tech 2.0 (old) works.

wacom have less than 1 IAF, while that model prob has at least 10+ IAF. wacom works almost identical that a real life fineliner, that you only need to make contact bween the tip of the pen and the paper for it to work and trace a line.

My advice is to hunt for whatever you can find: Large intuos 4, 5, pro 2013, or pro 2017.

i recommend large for desktop with 24 or + inches, but if you are on a laptop (14-16'') medium should be fine.

new there is much more to choose , but i think they go for 200 usd. the intuos large i mentioned can easily go for 100 to 150 usd.

I keep hearing the XP Pen is good though.

Think I'm gonna sell my galaxy tab ultra. I tried to get used to it for krita (use it on pc too) and the better file system but my ipad pro is just way comfier to draw on. The tab ultra feels awkward to hold because of the size and I find I prefer the aspect ratio of the ipad while drawing despite the samsung having more room on the sides.

So do the galaxy tabs have their own shitty mobile OS, or can you plug them into a real computer and use it like a reg drawing tablet

Is going from 13 to 16 a noticeable difference? I can also find cheap 22s but those might be too big.

>>7959043
could you elaborate on the diferences? krita is not available on ios and im not sure if on mac is usable since the arm macs seems to be unsuported.

i use a matepad 11.5 with krita on the go, and intuos pro large 2013 on desktop.

>>7959376
Yeah, I just use procreate and artstudio pro. Switching to pc isn't as seamless as krita but it's not too bad. Main downside is not having the same brushes. Don't have mac so no idea about that.
>could you elaborate on the diferences?
Besides my preference toward 4:3, imo ipados and the apps in general feel more polished and tablet-friendly, probably because the hardware's mostly the same unlike android. On android it feels like a lot of apps are made for phones. Not to say ipados is perfect or anything. It has plenty of quirks that annoy me (like that stupid bar on the bottom of the screen in some apps and crappy file management).
I like krita on pc but even with the s9 ultra's big screen the ui feels clunky to use. I'm surprised you manage to use it with an 11" screen.
The pens are both good but I find the apple pencil to be more responsive and have better pressure sensitivity compared to my s pen and wacom one pen. It is slightly heavier though. Can't speak for csp on either because fuck paying a subscription to draw.