Can you imagine being Indian?

author's account
https://x.com/masterlynx0

>>7937278
imagine being a whiteman outmached by an indian ahahaha lmao

And he became pro in 3 years

/permaprebeg/ white bros

>>7937278
so you're telling me AI made this?

>>7937278
over a billion of em, at least one's gotta be good at anime

>>7937278
Why aren't there way more of these kinds of artists right now?

Timmys of /ic/ coping so hard right now

>>7937278
>Indian guy
>made it
you can pick only one lmao

>>7937292
>And he became pro in 3 years
based on what, the creation date of their twitter account?

>>7937424
>seething

>>7937278
Why is that surprising? It doesn't matter the race of the artist, as long as they make good art. All this does is make certain faggots seethe from racial insecurity or whatever bull shit like this thread for an example.

>>7937278
Is he actually Indian or is this like the US Maths team beating China again?
What are the chances that he's actually Japanese and just happens to live India?

>>7937596
Holy fucking Cope of the century

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>>7937278
One thing I never like about non-Japanese people making manga, is they don't just copy the style of manga, that's fine, but they copy absolutely everything. pic related is a Japanese city background. The characters are probably Japanese, the fashion is Japanese, what's the point?

Japanese people make manga based in Japan because that's where they live. There's no special reason for it.
When you watch an alien invasion movie, where the aliens decide to declare war is always the country that the movie producer lives in. Independence day is the US, Power Rangers is Japan, Dr Who is England, etc.

It just feels weird and fake to see this kind of thing. I'd much prefer if they depicted their own country

>>7937602
blame retarded weebs and japs. They don't want stories or stuff based on outside of jap land.

>>7937596
Probably 0%, who the fuck wants to live in India?

>>7937602
It'd be really cool to get more varied cultures but can't really fault the artists because why make things harder for yourself when you can use what works. Another thing is that a lot of the world is not english speaking and they don't have big comic industry so the few comics that are made featuring their culture you'll never see because they aren't "manga" and don't get translated which is kinda based in a way. Why would someone make manga if they don't want to blend into the japanese norm?

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>>7937622
Deliberately picking Japan as your setting when you don't live in Japan and haven't grown up in Japan is not the easy option.
Japanese pick Japan because that's where they live.
They could depict a convincing Japanese setting without doing any reference gathering at all,
but a non Japanese person would have to spend a great deal of time researching locations, customs, fashions, and all sorts of tidbits like what the drainage pipes look like and whatnot.

When a Japanese person makes an Isekai manga, they have to go and research a bunch of western medieval things.
But when they choose Japan, they're taking the easy option where they don't have to think about the setting at all.

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>>7937622
Furthermore, and I'm not sure if this is what you're saying or not but
If what you're saying is
"it will succeed better in Japan if it's based in Japan"
I'm not so convinced. The Japanese are arrogant about their country, believing it to be the best, but they're also bored of it.
Westerners see the mundane reality of Japan as interesting, we obsess over even something as mundane as a streetlight, it's soo Japanese, but the Japanese themselves don't care about it.

I don't think there's much to gain by trying to appeal to the Japanese by setting your story in Japan, I think you'd far better grip their interests if you set it in your own country of which you have far deeper knowledge of, and they will view it as something exotic.

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At least he made some cool art of one of my childhood games.

>>7937278
>>7937636
It concerns me that he's VERY derivative of Murata.
Usually only beginner artists copy other artists to this degree (and of course they don't do it too well) but once someone gains enough skills to actually be able to perfectly mimic it, they usually find they don't actually want to draw it exactly like that person, they discover their own preferences.
But I'm not seeing any preferences here, it's just a Murata clone. Can he even predict what something would look like in Murata's style but for which Murata has not yet drawn? Such as a bodytype or age that Murata has never drawn

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>>7937638
his entire social media is filled with Murata "studies", he really love the guy

>>7937641
Doing studies is fine, but this guy is really good, it's unusual that he hasn't moved past this phase yet

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>>7937643
From an artist's point of view, it's concerning , but for the consumer, nobody would mind about a Murata 2, the way i see is something like "the marvel way"

>>7937629
I guess this would depend on your lived experience but manga makers are probably more on the homebody side and at least personally I wouldn't have a significant advantage in making story within my own country if I'm not doing photos for backgrounds and stuff like that, of course. I've read way more manga than what I have experienced in my own life. It's not like the culture depicted needs to be that authentic anyway, just model after the manga stories that exist. For my culture there are no comics to brush up on customs and stuff. I don't even know what I would do, maybe talk to parents or read something but it'd be a way bigger task than extracting from the tens of thousands of manga chapters I've already read.

Noticed your second post and I think you are right in that you can use your unique culture to standout but, again, then you need to do something more than just be derivative of the manga that already exist which I'd say is harder. Funnily enough there have been a couple manga featuring my culture from japanese authors so I suppose they've seen the potential

>>7937617
Japanese companies like Mitsubishi have factories in India, they have their own gated towns where Indians can't get into the town at all

>>7937649
I said there are no comics featuring my culture but moreso i mean that there isn't a whole ass industry to take inspiration from

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>>7937649
culture is largely invisible to those who live within it.
Look at the recent trend of Japanese people bitching about westerners reclining in their seats.
They don't even realize that reclining = impolite is a thing unique to Japanese culture.
If you ask a Japanese person to draw a street, draw a car, draw a person, etc, they'll draw something that looks Japanese, and the same for whatever other culture

pic related is a bath scene, it's set in Japan, but the creator of this scene wasn't thinking of anything deeper than "bath scene" They didn't have to research the presence of the bowl on the ground, they take it for granted, it's obvious to them that you have a bowl on the ground, there's always a bowl in the ground.
In my country, we don't have bowls on the ground in bathrooms, that's weird to me.
If I were to make a story set in Japan I would have to research their bathing cultures down to the most minute subtleties of bowls on grounds.

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>>7937622
All this discussion reminded me of this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA9GMXHQhR8
created by one of the directors from Kyoto Animation
https://www.imdb.com/pt/name/nm2210720/

>>7937659
cont, this goes the other way too.
Japanese people don't say thank you to retail workers or bus drivers, etc. They're not being rude, it's just not their culture. In my culture it is rude to not say thank you to those people.
These things are invisible to most people, they don't see them, they don't think about them, but they show up in the creative works they produce.

People often point out whenever some isekai set in medieval Europe has characters eating teriyaki, or bowing to their seniors. They don't realize those things are unique to Japan.

Nice, genuinely happy for him. Hope his serialization sticks.

>>7937602
>>7937610
Do you not know what a "target audience" is?
When you go to hollywood to make a hollywood movie, you're going to set that movie in america, no? Don't hate the man for knowing what the fuck he's making and for whom he's making it. It's a japanese magazine published in japan for japanese people. Do the math.

>>7937638
>It concerns me that he's VERY derivative of Murata.
Why? Derivative work is commonplace in manga. Maybe that's a problem to you, but it's clearly not an issue for manga in general.

>>7937602
You know why that’s the case. Anime marketed outside the US is targeted at Caucasians and they don’t want to see non white characters in media. If you make a story with too much of what Japan doesn’t normally do you won’t get readers. The demographic you’re aiming at is always white westerners, that’s just how it is.

The Indian could pick India but nobody would read it and white anime fans would tell you it’s not authentic manga even if it got published in japan.

>>7937659
Mm yeah it's probably a double edged sword to have a strong precedent that you have to follow since if you make a mistake the Japanese will pick up on it. With other cultures accuracy doesn't really matter if the work is aimed at Japanese people because they wouldn't know. Japan is also very homogenous so they might have more established "defaults" for stuff than other countries. Like less variance in the culture across the country for how things are done making it easier to spot discrepancies.

>>7937670
Lol, I've thought about this since I'd like to ultimately make something isekai inspired since I love the genre but I could never insert my own culture in there like how they always do, it would feel so tacky. The mc just needs to have their rice and of course the far away east nation has had a previous reincarnator bring in Japanese culture... I also wouldn't make the names and stuff Japanese though, I think I'd just not name drop the country the characters are supposedly from and let the reader broadly think "earth" while I can include a hodgepodge of different influences. Holy crap the fact just dawned on me how i have never seen an isekai where even one of the summoned people wouldn't be Japanese. They could do so much with the genre instead of repeating the same shit

>>7937602
I exactly get what you mean. But people who are obsessed enough with manga to reach his level usually hate their own country and culture that's why they want their work to be Japanese down to every line, every DNA. I'm a third-worlder myself so I understand. I fucking hate my country, but whenever I say that out loud, people just cope by saying things like it's better than being born in Iraq.

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>>7937702
>Holy crap the fact just dawned on me how i have never seen an isekai where even one of the summoned people wouldn't be Japanese.

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>god tier at art
>fluent (?) in jp
i can't be mad at this. good for him living out his dreams, this world is so awful, someone needs to

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>>7937770
language doesn't really matter. kadokawa will be willing to hire a good translator or just use AI

asian genes

>>7937671
Or in any forms of art in a very broad sense including music or literature

I like how jeets have so little going for them that the moment one of them find success they try to frame it as the complete downfall of the race they're most jealous of (white guys) and don't realize how desperate for validation it comes off as. The indian guy who made it should feel proud as he transcended being a shitskin. (You) however, have not. Lmao.

>>7937278
One in a literal billion

>>7937860
They’re ceos of many big companies in the USA. They’re mayors. They’re in the Government. And now they’re taking over Anime and Japan. I wouldn’t say they got little going for them. (You) however are still living in your mom’s house unable to afford a place of your own to start a family and get 1/5ths of what your grandparents have.

>>7937602
Everyone’s always saying that Japan isn’t as good as it seems and that it’s actually kinda bad, but modern Japan is the setting where the most fiction takes place, so it’s probably closest to perfect in human history

>>7937860
That's a lot of projection and cope.

kek lil timmies seething itt

>>7937936
>>7937292

>>7937932
Right and you're a CEO? Last I checked o wasn't the one doing this. So statement doesn't even make sense in this context. It's just an emotionally charged response to someone calling out the jeets that infest this site.
>>7937292

Indians once again brought down by their lowest common subhuman denominator.

Jeets try not to be misogynistic, scammers, bring up race or less than room temperature IQ challenge: Impossible

An entire nation with a collective average IQ lower than room temperature. Allowing you all onto the internet was quite literally the worst decision ever made. To top it off the CEOs you speak of, you mean like the ones running the companies into the ground? Adobe's trajectory ever since they got a jet CEO has been downward and grifty. AI this, make cancelling subscription models difficult that, it's like scamming is in your blood.

>>7937278
What happened to that alice dude?

And all it took was 1.8 times the population of the whole EU and US combined to bring forth such an artist.
What a glorious people. We should let more of them in here. For cultural enrichment.

>>7937704
drifters

>>7937638
>>7937641
the murata influence is very strong

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>>7938014
> isekai has non-japanese characters
> all the jap characters are hyperjapanese glorious nippon style figures to compensate for the fact

>>7937934
>Japan is the setting where the most fiction takes place
Blatantly wrong wtf
>>7937703
Maybe you're projecting a bit too hard on the guy mate? His silent oneshot could take place in any city really. ANd we dont even know where his serialization will take place
>I fucking hate my country, but whenever I say that out loud
Because you guys are annoying.
>BUah buah my country is so bad guise!!!!

You know what sucks more than being on a dire situation? Being on a dire situation with a guy that can't stop whining! suck it up.

A double page spread of the mc shitting on the street after a curry dinner

>>7937292
>in only 3 years
Good for him man.

>>7937278
Won the race to the bottom? Good on him

>>7938944
> "No Pajeet-kun you can't do that, we are supposed to take poo to the loo now! You Baka!"
> turns out poo to the loo was a campaign created by the evil antagonist, and it needs to be stopped

>>7937610
Dragon Ball and One Piece are very obviously not set in Japan and both weebs and japs love them

>>7937983
This guy is leagues better than that alice dude lol

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>>7939052
Come on now.
Let's be judges when both of their work has come out.
Manga isn't all about pretty picture.

>>7939375
True, but alice anon was never too great at story. Even in his silent manga pajeet Masterlynx mogs Alice anon's previous works like his "Tiger Square" both in story , reading flow , and art style. His work always a bit awkward to read in a smooth fashion comparatively. Unless the Indian guy drops the ball hard with the writing and Manlyspirit writes peak fiction, it's very likely the better drawn comic will be more satisfying. I like both of their work, so I guess we'll have to see

>>7937278
>Indian guy
>Rhymes with AI

>>7937292
How retarded one must be to need three years to learn anime illustration?

>>7939540
pyw

>>7939026
Sutando-mei
「Sutorīto Shittā」!!

>>7937433
if you're indian you lose the moment you are born
that's just a sad reality of the world

>>7939540
Pyw

>>7937292
based on what?

>>7937278
teenagers has made it before anon... Is this truly the only Indian of a population of a billion in the last 100 years that has

>>7939692
Name a single white man that made it in the Japanese manga space in Japan. I'll wait. Every ethic background has had a shot to debut in Japan but white.

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>>7939833
European men are the best artists in the world unmatched by any asian. Im sorry saar. Nature is cruel

>>7939850
>did not reply back with a name
I expected as much.

>>7939833
Define "make it". There is a white dude currently serialized in japan. He's on /ic/ even.

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>>7937278
He's probably gonna make a gay Dragon Ball comic next, watch.

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>>7939833
Giuseppe Castiglione (Chinese name Lang Shining)

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Statistically, 1 was bound to.
There's over a billion jeets.

But I'll never read that crap

>>7937602
it's crazy that Isayama survived living in Paradis Island to go on and make Attack on Titan

>>7939833
I mean generally I'm american and we have the comic/cartoon space but if making it for you means "anime/manga" you do you but swear if this somethimg like you niggas ruining shit like the Simpsons/Netflix or god awful adaption of DMC you can fuck off

>>7939850
Americans won't ever be European. Diluted-race tranny

>>7939927
>a gay Dragon Ball comic
you typed gay twice

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>>7937278
>makes it into his chosen field professionally by drawing really well
cool!
me next.

>>7940203
A gay Dragon Ball gay?

>>7937292
>>7937289
>>7937278
>>7937592
>>7937770
>>7939935
Made it to what retards
He just got greenlit for a fucking webccomic site you turbo retards,holy fucking shit this board and their absolute mongol standards "I made it if I ever publish in a free manga site"
You guys are fucking losers holy shit

>>7941052
Lots of mangakas publish on web platforms or digital only magazines, the real question is whether the collected volumes will sell or not

>>7941087
I'm objecting to the fact of what this absolute retards consider "made"
>ComicWalker (now often referred to as KadoComi) features a vast, frequently updated library from Kadokawa, including over 3,000+ manga works, ranging from popular series to original titles, available for free reading.

>>7941097
What is your criteria, then?

>>7941104
Actually make a profit from it first
Profit understood as getting more money than the average minimum wage applied into the time you spend on doing the work
If the pajeet spent 8 months of his life 10 hours a day making his manga and it nets him 6 bucks in donations or coffees or whatever the monetization is (as the publishing is free) he didn't "made" shit he wasted his life

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>>7941126
>Actually make a profit from it first Profit understood as getting more money than the average minimum wage applied into the time you spend on doing the work
Looks like that hentai mangaka from /mmg/ that didnt make it either since he only made roughly 4900usd in about 2 years which is far less that your part time McDonald's worker makes in a year.

>>7941202
>4900 in 2 years
>2450 a year
>200 bucks a month
Yes that is correct, if you work part time for a full month for 200 bucks you didn't make it
Did you think this was somehow a flex or a good rebuttal?

>>7941126
He's being published by Kadokawa so I'm assuming he's getting some page rates, either way we'll need to wait for the collected volumes to tell if it was successful or not

>>7941315
>Kadokawa
Doesn't his tweet says Kadocomi?
>>7937289

>>7941126
I'd say that's too harsh. Just making enough that the publisher is willing to continue to publish it should be enough to have "made it". That would be the threshold where you can truly say you're a professional comic author. Money is relative.

>>7941126
>Profit understood as getting more money than the average minimum wage applied into the time you spend on doing the work
Minimum wage is silly thing to bring up in this context.. Minimum wage where? The US? Australia? Japan? These are all wildly different numbers. "Average minimum wage" is borderline meaningless. Whatever money YOU need to survive to continue making comics is enough to have made it on your own, and whatever money the publisher needs to remain profitable is enough to continue working with them. You're not out of the game after one failed work, and even if you fail out with one publisher that doesn't mean another publisher wouldn't be interested in giving you a shot.
>he didn't "made" shit he wasted his life
He gained valuable experience he can carry into the next work and/or next attempt at serialization. It's quite common for authors to take several attempts to get anything going. Even Toriyama, which many people today consider to be the GOAT, had numerous complete flops before he hit with Dr. Slump.
Also, his work doesn't just disappear. It's stuff he can show people. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you?

>>7941202
>Looks like that hentai mangaka from /mmg/ that didnt make it either since he only made roughly 4900usd in about 2 year
Lol what? Where the hell did you pull that number from? The page rate alone, before royalties, is double that. But I still didn't make minimum wage, I've still only made pittance compared to a minimum wage job here (the mw in Australia is quite high, relatively speaking). But it's great money compared to the $0 I would otherwise be making drawing comics.

>>7941321
Kadocomi is run by Kadokawa. It's in the name.

>>7941494
If you are drawing, full time, and don't even make minimum wage, you didn't make it.
If you are surviving you are just a slave.
This delusional art world applies standards that no sane people would apply anywhere else.
Nobody would say, if you are working on a chinese sweatshop for pennies barely able to eat, that you "finally made it as a cloth designer".
No you are just a slave.
Nobody sane would say that, but that's YOU on this delusional industry.

>>7941499
I never said I had "made it", nor did I say this guy has "made it". You are projecting.
I'm saying that minimum wage is a poor standard for "making it". Money has different value to different people, and different value in different places. I was making comics when I was making nothing from it and needed money. I'm making comics when I'm making something from it and don't need the money. I'm not motivated by money, and if money became a problem I can always move somewhere cheaper than Aus, so I can continue to make comics.
What other people consider "making it" is rising above the level of just aspiring to make comics professionally and actually convincing a publisher to put up money to bring your comic in front of a larger audience and associate it with their name, and to pay you to continue working on it. That is much more sensible than what your standards are.
My personal standard for making it is to be able to make comics indefinitely. Whatever income that is, whatever amount of support that takes. To just reach the point where you don't need to worry about making something a success so you can continue, but to be able to just focus on making the work good.
And whatever anybody says, I don't consider myself a proper "pro" yet. I've yet to land a success to make it stick. Nor do I consider this indian guy a proper "pro". He's closer and has come further than 99.9% of people who want to become a pro, but it won't stick until he makes a successful comic.

>>7937592
Brown "people" cant make art
Show me 1 iconic brown made art

/asg/ and /mmg/ lashing out bigtime

>>7939375
This is his art? I look up the oneshots he gave a link to and it didnt look like this

Its out!

In english
https://x.com/masterlynx0/status/2055128828050358658

In japanese
https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_008716_S?episodeType=first

>>7941955
The art is not bad, pretty good. Dialog is cringe, though.

>>7941960
and did he write it? if so, he needs a writer.

>>7941955
How does it work for this dude? Does he write it in english first or japanese?

>>7941961
Looks like it, no other person is listed in the manga or page as an author

He "made it" but I wonder what someone would feel after they made their "dream" come true. The question that remains is "now what?" after "making it".

>>7941953
Yes, it's his art.
He planned to use the as banner or something for the web publication.
Although he wasn't sure if something that explicit could be given a green light from the editors.

>I look up the oneshots he gave a link to
Care to share?

i'm more jealous of him knowing Japanese. I can sit down and draw for hours, but i have difficulty actually taking the time to learn the language.

>>7942318
this desu

>>7941512
>I'm saying that minimum wage is a poor standard for "making it".
It's actually a great standard for making it
You are being useless to society if you are working under minimum wage as a freelancer.
You are coping.
You either freelance and make it, or integrate in the cog of society even at the lowers level.
If you freelance and don't make minimum wage, you are simply failing as a human.
Your point of view is so abstract and delusional that you have no measure for failure.

>>7943190
>You are being useless to society if you are working under minimum wage as a freelancer.
WHICH society? Because I make good money for some countries. I'm saying it's relative.

My measure for failure would be being forced to quit making comics to survive and dying having never made anything worthwhile.

>>7943198
>My measure for failure would be being forced to quit making comics to survive and dying having never made anything worthwhile.
So almost no one ever fails under your pov, yes, I understand that
That's why I called it delusional and retarded.

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>>7943527
>So almost no one ever fails under your pov
Most people who try fail under my PoV.

>>7937278
huh maybe Indians really are Asians after all

>>7943777
>Most people who try fail under my PoV
Delusional, yes, I know

>>7944149
You're just disagreeing for the sake of it at this point. You don't even know what you're disagreeing with.

>>7944170
>My measure for failure would be being forced to quit making comics to survive and dying having never made anything worthwhile
I know perfectly well what I'm disagreeing with
You have severe accountability issues.
You believe that you only fail if some external party "forces" you to stop drawing. That's a very comfortable life if your only failing point is other people's or other circumstance's fault. It's never your fault! You don't really fail on your own, you are forced to fail, you have no personal agency on your failing, generally.
I say generally because of your amendment "having made anything worthwile", which means you are only statchecked when you fucking die. This tracks with your pov: you CAN fail on your own, but only insofar we wait untill the end of your life to tally up your legacy, and if you fail on your own, doesn't mater because you are pretty much dead, dodging failure accountability once more.
All this points to you probably being a women, as this is very women-coded.
I love women and I especially like dumb women, but I don't want to talk to you anymore if I can't see your tits.

>>7944194
"Forced to quit to survive" doesn't imply some external force at all, other than standard societal/financial pressure. These are forces pretty much everybody but rich kids and retirees feel. So this all makes your
>It's never your fault! You don't really fail on your own, you are forced to fail, you have no personal agency on your failing, generally.
into nonsensical ramblings just to paint using a pretty standard metric for success/failure (that you're already using, by the way) as somehow delusional? You're basically arguing against your own point here so yes, I'll say it again, you're just disagreeing to disagree.
>you CAN fail on your own, but only insofar we wait untill the end of your life to tally up your legacy, and if you fail on your own, doesn't mater because you are pretty much dead, dodging failure accountability once more.
All I'm trying to convey is that if you have to quit comics to pay the bills, that's a failure in my eyes. Not whatever insane shit you're getting from taking every little word at its most literal. What are you, the devil?
And sure, you could argue someone might one day return to making comics, but let's be realistic here, that's not likely. Most of the time when life gets in the way, life stays in the way, and by the time someone's retired they're probably not going to be picking up that thing they were doing for a few years in their 20s again. Maybe some have. But for most people, quitting is permanent.

i mean good for him. Why are some people so in their feelings at the site of another artist seeing any sort of success.

>>7944472
Because indians cheat or exploit their kids from a young age, because the art looks like colored AI, because i don't want indians in japan or making manga. Them getting into manga is a horrible precedent and i don't want it

Any other questions? Hope that helps.

>>7944909
so basically an emotional outburst that "women" love to do, got it.

>>7944916
insane gaslight

So this is the future? Just everyone aping Japan? At least Europe kind of has it's own thing going on.

>>7945185
workers go where the work is, typically.

>>7939375
>both of their work has come out
This guy is never going to get published

>>7944909
This is genuinely pathetic. You're mad cause some dude who happens to be indian draws well and that means he might actually enter the industry? Would you be a-okay if he was white or something?

>>7945378
Prejudice and stereotyping exist for a reason and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>7941512
>>7941494
Yeah you tell em' Dingle-Sensei!!! Show em' whose boss by drawing them pregnant and cummed on in your latest hentai chapter!! :D

i mean what's stopping anyone from doing a lora of murata. The drawings are dirty, souless, hopeless.

>>7944909
>i don't want it
Well i got some news for you, my friend
Nobody cares what you want. In fact, there is nothing you can do about it.

>>7945467
and i have even more horrible news for you. the moment japan stops being japanese people will lose interest in it. It's not about what i want, it's about what the global consciousness wants. Nothing can't be done about it.

>>7945468
So kinda like how you nodraws invaded /ic/?

>>7937278
>/ic got mogged by a single Indian
Oh no no, not like this.

>>7944472
I don't understand it either, an Indian doesn't fall into any of the negative stereotypes and people here still get mad. I'm happy for the guy, he seems talented

>>7941126
>Actually make a profit from it first
why are indians so obsessed with profits?

>>7937602
Its because India sucks.

>>7937602
Why would I, who grew up and fell in love with Japanese anime/manga, Japanese art style, Japanese culture, and the Japanese country, fucking draw my own country and culture, which is not the one I am interested in?