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I should do some nude modeling for art classes. I'm sure the students would be inspired by my beautiful forms...

i hope i can do that thing where you take a year off work to focus on art. i'm trying to save. i should have 50k stashed away by year's end but the issue is that there's no way my parents would allow me to sit in the home and not work so i'd have to figure out where could i live off that for a year that's not a complete shithole

>>7940554
Just go to a library every day or whatever. How will mister and misses boomer notice?

summer is approaching, how do you guys draw in the wswltering heat? You can't just sit in a chair for 3 hours comfortably and stay in the zone.

>>7940727
get a fan or an air conditioner

>>7940534
Anyone else.... get stressed out that you might be sharing the same thread... with a nigger?

>>7940734
any free options?

>>7940538
it might be better if youre hideous actually, a truly grotesque person is rare but very much appreciated

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Anyone here did a Coloso course before?
There's an animator I follow that's releasing a course there but man those prices are just way higher than what I expected even with a discount code

>>7940727
iktf, I used to be so cool in the summer before but now that I've started exercising my body temp is way higher and I'm just sweating.
You need a fan, lots of fresh shirts to swap out and feel dry, a towel. Ganbare anon!

>>7940538
I've been a nude model for local art schools few times.

>>7940727
My wife bought big ass air conditioner device and it's in my mancave office art studio. Perks of being a trophy husband

>>7940742
library, cafe or some public place with wi-fi

>>7940742
Turn off the sun with the power of your mind

bitching in the designated bitching thread but holy fuck the majority of the catalog is so useless. i know i shouldn't expect anything other than begs and nodraws crying but it's gotten worse slowly over the past five years

>>7940850
Why would real artists waste precious drawing time in /ic/? Same with /v/ and videogames, real gamers dont have time for Twitter screencap and ragebait threads

>>7940852
We used to be a proper community once

>>7940866
Newfag. 4chan nor /ic/ were never good
t.started lurking in 2004

>>7940873
Newfag, /ic/ used to be a concept art bastion, the fact you don't know this and you're pretending to be an oldfag guarantees that you're a newfag
>t. actually started in 2004

>>7940894
PYW

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I wish I was faster
like way, way faster
I feel like the quality of my work has improved a lot, AND I can finish stuff faster than before but still... It takes me ages.

I follow some artists that are putting out their best works like every other day and it's like how??
It's so frustrating to spend so long on a single piece of art when I have so many ideas and designs and things I want to learn...

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>>7940896

>mogoon has been drawing for nearly 10 hours
git gud

>>7940736
We'll get over our penis envy one of these days my fellow ytboibro...

Any EU artists here that use Patreon? Do you have to declare to the IRS the money you make at the platform?

>>7940852
I take 30min breaks and visit here as I make my rounds on the boards I visit. Yeah it's really bad unfortunately. Twitter is worse though.

>>7940900
Pyw and I'll tell you.

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>>7941206
Stop stealing.

>>7941216
Starmer's look and policies make so much more sense when you consider the theory he was probably a Savile victim

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In the upcoming months I plan to neet and spend my days making comics. My partner is pretty supportive about it. I just fear that my motivation will die down and I don’t want to be a disappointment.
It’s not even a matter of making it or not. I don’t think I even like drawing, it’s just that I’ve invested so much time in it and I’ve literally have nothing else worthy to give in this world.

>>7940900
Speed is very simple.
Assuming basic drawing skills isn't a factor, it's almost always an issue with process. A standard workflow that most professionals use is:
>design
>layin
>tones
>color
>polish
You time block each stage of your process then figure out which stage can be improved and then you improve it. The last 10% and polish usually takes up 90% of the time from my experience. You can watch a timelapse on 10x speed, see what they do, copy it, apply it.

>>7941290
You're just doing it as a passion project, right? You have no need or expectations on making significant money from it...right?

I'm tired of working through art courses, I just want to make shit on stream all day.

>>7940799
there's a course thread here. trying asking there for the course when it drops

>finally have an uninterrupted 6 hour block to draw
>spend it all scrolling and looking at things that make me mad
the old masters wouldnt last 2 seconds in our current times

>>7940727
I dropped $5,000 on a good AC system. Now I wear sweaters during summer.

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>art high for two weeks straight
>suddenly want to make an animation
>sleep schedule gets ruined, knots in my stomach about getting it right, suddenly dont feel as good about art anymore
>only drawn one sketch of one frame so far
take me to the shed doc

there is nothing intuitive about drawing. The only objective truth is perspective and it requires advanced mathematics to actually get right.

>>7941747
It depends on where your natural talents lie I suppose. For some people it clearly is intuitive, and it comes easy to them and they progress very quickly. But if you're not lucky enough to be talented then yeah, you're basically playing on nightmare mode. Definitely the hardest skill I've ever tried to learn in my life.

>only replies on /ic/ i get nowdays are silent redlines
Oh god i've regressed havent I

>>7940850
>oh man duh FUCKing NODRAWS!

There are less embarassing ways to annohnce that you are just below intermediate beg.

>>7941886
?? if you're getting redlines at all shouldn't you be happy? Most people who post here get jack shit

>>7940850
anyone who draws is out there drawing, people just come to /ic/ for memes and to cool off between drawing sessions. But most people here are nodraws that haunt the board and terrorize others because of theri own hangups.

>>7941911
I'm absolutely happy i'm getting free critique on my art, but the fact that im suddenly getting quite a bit of it (I normally just get ignored) is making me think i regressed hard. I'm a glass half empty sort of person

>>7941928
That’s not what the board is for you colossal waste of bandwidth. It’s for posting your work and criticism, not for memes and treating this place like you hate being here when you could make it better.

>>7941939
>artwork/crtique
>post artwork OR criticize the concept of drawing
what's the problem?

>>7941939
Honestly, when you draw all day it gets kinda lonely and you don't relate to anything but art because you're obsessed so you come here to see what the no draws are bitching and moaning about, it can also make you feel better because even though you're shit at drawing you're not THAT bad compared to the art work posted here (except some porn artists, I don't get why they're here) so it's a comfy place to chill and talk art philosophy and catch up on the latest art FotM drama. Because most art boards moves so slow and the ones that doesn't are fiilled with troons.

>>7941946
my favorite is when a new buzzword to explain skill issues pops up and threads get made over and over parroting it when 99% of the time people just suck because they lack interest, discipline, and/or feel shame over their own interests (usually the biggest culprit in my experience)
ive started to enjoy checking the /wao/ thread because they're all just earnest and focus on what they find appealing to themselves

I don't know why I can't draw men
Every design idea I have works better on women
come up with a hairstyle, oh that's obviously for a woman
come up with an outfit, oh that's obviously for a woman
I'm sick of just how limited the male form and fashion are
>Just don't care bro
Then you're just drawing a girl and calling it a boy, and you still end up only drawing girls
and I dont want to only draw girls
but I only like drawing girls

I don't feel welcome in the general I use here anymore. I've hit a wall creatively and I'm looking anywhere for a new direction, but they aren't taking anything I say seriously. it doesnt feel helpful at all.

>>7940866
This but unironically, most of my memorable growth spurts in art came after very good critique I received here.
>>7940873
stop larping, tourist

new method of dealing with art block: tell myself im not smart enough to deal with my doubts

>>7940850
Covid was the last boat out of hell and schizos and nodraw ruined is place completely. I don't even post outside of my perfered general anymore because ic is just a gossiping about fuck all and demovational post.

Spent the entire week trying to get good at crosshatching and I failed at it miserably. Maybe I should look at other ways of rendering in ink.

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Been following a lot of twitter accounts that post practice and it shows me that i'm not drawing as much as I should. I'm clearly improving, but I could be improving way faster.

>>7942818
It's always a matter of volume. I'm saying this with the assumption that the person isn't a braindead retard and doesn't repeat the same mistake for 500 hours.

>>7942844
yeah thankfully i have an eye, for the most part, of what i did wrong in a drawing. I just gotta stop being a lazy faggot and actually just grind

you have a few thousand drawings in you in your early twenties, so draw as much as you can to improve asap. Because in your 30s it becomes hard to draw more than an hour a day.

how do i make it look like a painting's eyes is blinking

>>7942139
look at Jojo if you think male fashion is limited

I can't get used to the triangle color wheel. How exactly is it better than the square one

>>7943209
Just don't bother. I just stick with the square.

>>7943209
value changes with saturation it makes more sense to have it on a triangle because maximum saturation is in the middle value

>>7943100
Jojo outfits look fucking horrible and I'm tired of pretending they don't
Any of the "iconic" outfits that aren't just regular clothes are bunch of extra ""fabulous"" runway model bullshit that nobody would ever actually wear
And even then, it's all the same form-fitting tight boxy shapes, just with random holes cut out or dumbass patterns for the sake of trying to look different.

>>7942139
>I'm sick of just how limited the male form and fashion are
You're just ignorant.

>specialist art program does 90% of what I want
>the 10% that its missing was vital to what I wanted to do

>>7942139
you're attracted to women or otherwise only want to depict them but you feel guilt (?) or something over that and so you try to draw men too, and it doesn't work because you don't give a fuck. do what you wanna do
>drawing a girl and calling it a boy
this is a self-defeating statement. a feminine boy is a boy, even if impossibly feminine. it's fine if the boys you want to draw just look like girls. it's your hand

>>7942139
you're a coomer that literally gets a headache and hetero-identity crisis whenever a male character is on screen

>>7943478
i make fun of and am annoyed by those people actually

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I think I have finally ascended. People are trashing my art like crazy in another thread and I genuinely don't care. God I wish I had learned how to be like this sooner.

>>7943805
>la la la I can’t hear you I’m burning but I can’t feel my legs melting because my soul is ascending to God

>>7943805
those that can always brush off critique are powerful but i feel many more need to feel it, crash out, and then learn that life goes on and it doesn't really matter if someone finds what makes them happy slop. like touching a hot stove as a baby

>>7943826
This board has always been my art hell. How many times it almost broke me... It's refreshing to finally enjoy your my own art enough to not get shaken by criticism.

>>7943805
Shrugging off hate is easy
It's getting ignored that's crushing

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I'm in a slump and not sure what to do
>spent years doing aimless studies with minimal improvement
>realize I need to just fucking draw what I want instead
>so brainrotted these days that I'm completely uninspired and don't know what to draw
>don't draw
Occasionally I get ideas but it's usually when I'm at work or something and by the time I get home the spark is gone.

>>7944137
write down your ideas or just draw stuff you find sexy instead of trying to hold onto fleeting thoughts

>>7944137
Ideas come out of the paper, not your brain.
Just draw.

Didn't hit today's objective...
I don't think I can do 60 pages in 60 days...
Why was I born weak...

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>working on my own project
>didn't know about Gameoverse until a few days ago
>watch it today
>at least half of its ideas and concepts overlap with my project
do i kill myself or do i push through and attempt to ride the wave

>>7944139
>Ideas come out of the paper, not your brain.
Your dreams of becoming a professional quote-maker aren't going to pan out.

>>7944222
gameoverse is really generic slop and its ideas likely exist in the heads of thousands of guys so youre okay

>>7944253
yeah thats true, i was thinking about it while cooking just now and i'd only really have to change some wordings here and there on my side
i have great disdain for zoomers

>>7944137
while I'm a bit more happy that my studies got me somewhere I like, you are literally me.

>I guess I'll do some gesture
>hit random quickpose reference site
>first picture is a dude curled into a ball
>second picture is a dude curled into a ball
>third picture is a dude curled into a ball
I think these sites should have less pictures of dudes curled into a ball

>>7944404
I hate those sites because everyone is ugly. How hard is it to find people that aren't butt ugly

>>7944406
If they were attractive it'd be porn

>look at some random circle tool ms paint art online
>they're so excited to share their drawing and have a lot to say about it
>can feel their intent in every picture and where they tried to draw something difficult
>I'm sitting here doomscrolling because I can't find it in me to draw despite making it as an artist

>>7944137
?
You just draw your favorite anime/vidya character partaking in your fetish like all the other artists

how do you escape a 3+ year improvement plateau

it is so very important to get feedback from a pro early on

>>7944832
How do I do this if I don't know any pros

This is the second time a client has commissioned me to create something based on one of his favourite movie— a two-page comic, to be precise. In his last email, he asked me if I had watched the movie. I spend most of my time working, so I rarely watch films, and when I do, it's always one from my watchlist. However, I'm afraid I'll have to make time to watch this one. I suppose I'll watch it next time the power goes out – probably in half an hour.

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>tfw reach the point of being happy with your art

I always thought loathing your art was a part of being an artist. But I’m finally feeling accomplished and I enjoy looking at my drawings instead of just noticing the mistakes.

>>7944887
artists are fucking egotistical loser, they love the trash they produce.

>>7944887
I think it's because you've developed a style successfully

>>7944887
It comes and goes. You may hate these later! And then like them again 5 years from now.

>>7944826
My biggest jumps happened when I did competition work. Thunderdomes of competing artists. There are discords for this sort of thing these days, sinix design corps?

>requires 5 years of experience
>apply anyway with 0 years
>got the job
basketball quote.webp

>>7945151
I could say the same for pretty much every other job I applied for. Even the ones I thought were scams and would never get back to me I ended up either getting the job or getting as far as a job tryout with the top people in the company.

>>7943209
actually, the most easiest color 'wheel' is HSL Slider and not triangle or square

>>7944406
>>7944439
i don't mind uggos but when the bodies are fat and/or they're in wheelchairs and shit it's like what's the point. find athletes and thin people

hmm should I draw for 2 hours or should I doomscroll until 4am, what a tough fucking decision for my brain apparently

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spent the last couple of days experimenting with watercolor in csp and trying to emulate traditional watercolor in digital media.
In order to do so I use watercolor brush, watercolor color palette (someone ported winsor and newton color palette in csp material asset), and watercolor paper texture, then I painted this piece normally, just like I paint watercolor in traditional media, and yet I still have no idea what else can be done with this piece; where to go from here, what am I supposed to do next, but at the same time it just feel off when you look at it.
Technically speaking, I dont think wet on wet, other than using that wet wash brush, is possible. I found myself relying on blending mode most of the time, I had to do it otherwise this drawing would lose its aquarelle-looks and leaning more into general looks of digital drawing because the color that you apply in there would be much stronger than its translucent watercolor background, and because of that I cant layer this painting properly just like how I would layer a normal watercolor painting.

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I'm convinced the splitting of /cbsg/ into like 7 different fucking threads is just a successful subversion by crabs because the general quality of it was very good.

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Starting to question if I love art or if I'm just doing it because it's the only thing I have a resemblance of talent in. Then again, does it really matter?

Is it crazy that a lot of popular art makes me upset because I can tell it was optimized 100% around putting in minimal effort to get likes?
Like obviously we all know mcdonalds level art is nothing new. Anyone who follows seasonal anime knows this. But even on niche accounts where you would think, "Oh this artist is totally doing it for the love of the game, not just for clout", it's like you can tell, oh wait, even in this micro-niche they're very obviously pandering for likes, like they figured out the exact formula that people in this niche wanna see & put the bare minimum into drawing art for that niche. And when you look at it you're like, "My brain is giving me dopamine for this but something about it is incredibly empty and hollow in a way I can't really put into words"

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I feel like my older sibling has been less and less interested in art lately.
She got me into it when we were kids, she pursued it in education (I couldn't), extremely popular online and just picks up any art skill quickly
I respect and envy her a lot.

She barely draws now though, I try to talk to her about art stuff and she just doesn't care.
Hasn't drawn anything as of late.
Thinks "more artists should be censored"
All she talks about now are luxury brands and designer bags and jewelry.
Every weekend she's out socializing with relatives at wine parties...

idk, maybe that's what makes her happy now but I do feel like I lost a close friend and mentor just out of nowhere..

>>7947692
I'm the same way. I like being good at stuff. If I wasn't good I would have quit immediately.

>>7947673
>crabs
*women, anon
specifically women who think they can save the world via gay or hetero (for women) porn over, idk, putting in hours at a woman's shelter or some shit.

There was a big fuss on an imageboard for women whose world revolves around hating men about the /cbsg/ discord having a few men in it, and the mods for /cbsg/ care deeply about the opinions of those women, so they did a big split. The art quality wasnt too good anyway. With any general you will have the standouts but overall it's /beg/s and perma /int/s with dry subject matter

>>7947692
Love of art is different from love of doing art; love of doing art often implies the former, not necessarily true of the reverse.

I need a female artist friend who understand fashion terms so I know what to look up when I'm looking for references for fashion. I'm tired of spending an hour or so to learn the term I need to look up.

I just partly fractured the middle finger on my drawing hand helping my parents on my regular visit. i pretended i was fine for nine or so hours and just got home and curled into a ball. damn it, guys.

>>7948240
Get it taken care of at a clinic, you should be able to draw once it's cast

I stubbed a toe real bad one time and it healed wrong, so now I can't wear some types of shoes. I asked the doctor about it and he said they don't re-set (see: re-break the toe to set it right) certain digits as part of insurance so I just have to live with it

>>7948286
thanks for the tip. i hope so. i’m sorry for your bad luck, too.

I don't like anything anymore. I just draw and doomscroll. I don't even watch anime or play games.

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>Time to draw again

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>Time to draw again

>want to hire traditional artists for my card game
>apparently someone named brian exists
>nobody takes anything seriously

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>starting working out again
>now I just wanna draw tomboys and sweaty women doing sports
god damn it I've got other pieces to finish damn it

I'm not sure if I want to lean into comic or animation anymore. I wish I could live 2 lives.

does going for walks actually work?

>>7949344
>does going for walks actually work?

Absolutely, it may take a few times for it to do so but if you go for a walk (more than 20 mins) it gets your mind thinking. Many people in academia use this to their advantage, some do zone 2/3 cardio until their minds are filled with endorphins (runner's high) which lowers stress momentarily and allows you to think clearer.

generalization of course but it seems to me even if a japanese or chinese or even korean artist is into weird shit they still live normal-ish lives. but in the west if someone is into weird shit they're a tranny who is trying to live out their fetish in reality. i envy the east, i want friends who know fetish shit is purely fictional and fiction in general isn't real but those types tend to be some flavor of trans or strange, nazis or something. but i definitely don't want to end up around people who wring their hands at porn of the busty highschoolers in something like blue archive. fuck

>>7949381
Bro, be proud you just so happened to be born in the west in a country that's safe and free. You won the life lottery, especially if your soul landed in America. America is a beautiful country. Go out and travel and see the country you're in. Go hiking, explore. Take pictures. The average Takeshi would be mad jealous of an American to climb hills and see bald eagles soaring in the sky like in his Isekai web novels. I'm telling you, YOU won if you're American.

>>7949384
most people in the us can't do what you've mentioned. all we can do is go to work and come back to our apartments in our tiny cities where nothing ever happens

>>7949398
>all we can do is go to work and come back to our apartments in our tiny cities where nothing ever happens

That can't be me anymore. It got so bad on the way to work every morning I get up to the stoplight and see the same exact person in their car either next to me or behind me at the exact same time every day. Or when taking the bus, the same people at the bus. The moment I step out of my house the same neighbor steps out of their house the same exact time, day after day. Couldn't take that anymore at all and I don't know how the population doesn't go mad from it.

But there was still the small things like instead of going to the lunchroom I'd walk out of the building and go for a walk near the lake, through the trees where nobody goes. Jump over fences in restricted areas just to see what's there. Normally no grown ass adult would be doing what I do, but it broke the monotony of the mundane. You still have the weekends anyway to see nature.

>>7949381
you've been online and in the shittiest spaces for far too long

>>7949409
you won your own sort of lottery where you work near a lake and trees and have reliable public transportation

>>7949414
probably

Is becoming a popular (10k+ followers) social media artist starting from amateur level art skills in just 1 or 2 years realistically possible? Honest answers

This is assuming I lack in social skills and burned out plenty of bridges that could've given me meaningful connections in the long run btw

>>7940534
>OP pic
This stuff looks easy, yet if I try, I fail.
Why drawing, and redrawing from memory, it's so damn hard?

>>7949398
>most people in the us can't do what you've mentioned.

I mean you can do that you just have to plan to do it. You choose not to because learned helplessness locked you in a cycle, and I am absolutely projecting, I've been wanting to take a train upstate into nature because I'm sick of being alone by so many people and want some solitude in a place with fresh air... but I'm so tired and exhausted I waste one day feeling like shit and then the next preparing for the week/ maintenance on life.

>>7949384
America is pretty cool. Some people just choose to live in depressing shitholes like Dallas or Atlanta and never leave.

studying muscles really makes you want to exercise huh

with how popular they are im surprised there isn't a timelapse thread here

>>7949762
They have some every once in a while! I'm sure you can find some in the archive

>my regular client has just commissioned me to create some new illustrations
>received another email at the same time
>it's an old client who has been asking me to accept his commission for months
I feel so guilty. He’s a nice guy and one of the few clients I have things in common with. However, my main client pays me better. I suppose I could try working with both of them at the same time, but I've been dealing with one or two four-hour power cuts every day lately. Honestly, I prefer working exclusively with my regular clients. That way, I can at least take a day off to work on my own projects. I’ve even used power outages as an opportunity to relax and draw silly stuff.

>watch a speed paint
>they spend several minutes just brushing over the same spot barely changing anything
>looks more like they're going in circles unsure where to render
>final result only shows about 1/10th of all the strokes made

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>Make a twitter account mainly as an art storage and to show my progress in getting better
>Randomly 1 day i get a nice comment and a follow
>It's from an artist I admire and followed to study
>tfw the praise made me feel bad and hate my art

>>7949725
>America is pretty cool.
Nature wise America is absolutely beautiful, but monument wise America really sucks, no temples or castles, no cool ass victorian buildings, things that look like actual works of art instead of shitty modern architechture. What do we get? A cracked bell ben franklin's house rubberband balls mt rushmore and vegas all shit. Though living in NYC going to the museums and seeing the armor and statues there is pretty fun, art- wise makes me feel like a kid in a candy store

>>7949384
lol

you have no idea how bad it is here in most places.

>>7950185
Why? Because the artist was a sort of reminder?

>gave up gaming
>haven't played a game in years
>gave up anime
>watch maybe one anime a year if that
>gave up fapping
>only fap once every few days
>didn't increase my drawing time at all
>because I draw until I finish a drawing and then my brain is wiped out so I stop

how many of you bother to check your art on multiple screens/phone for color correction?

>>7949646
Moral busybody answer: assigning meaning to your life by obsessing over fake numbers on a bullshit platform seems like a great way to live your life bro, go for it

Actual answer: pick a large-ish size fandom/community and consistently post content multiple times a week for it. Art skill is largely irrelevant. Interacting with others can be a big boost on certain platforms, but fast growth still might be doable without. Jump on art trends and memes as soon as you can. This is also happens to be the perfect recipe for burnout

source: I just typed out some bullshit

>>7950288
>obsessing over fake numbers on a bullshit platform
metrics hurt fragile egos but they can be useful if you don't try to game them

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A client asked me where I live because he would like to visit my country someday.
>>7950284
I tried it once and it was unpleasant. I don't have a monitor calibrator, so I calibrate my monitor manually. This means that what I'm looking at might not be the actual image. This whole thing is a can of worms for me.

>>7950284
I had this idea in the past, but luckily I never had to do that.

I've got a monitor after I saw a review which shared the color profile.
Actually, even monitors of the same model can have small differences, but better than nothing.

Anyway, checking an image from multiple devices will just make you crazy. You are just looking it from multiple wrong perspectives.

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>been spamming the fuck out of quick figure drawings
>noticing improvement
>figures are getting easier to slap down
>draw some characters
>the hours of figure drawing practice end up being covered due the stuff i draw usually being clothed
>everything turns stiff because i suck dick at clothing

>>7950967
I think that’s why it’s important to do finished drawings regularly that bring everything together (body, face, clothing, perspective, etc) so you get regularly exposure to everything and don’t tunnel vision too hard on one thing.

In my pursuit of improving my fundamentals I feel like I've lost my imagination.

>>7951032
in pursuit of working mainly from imagination i feel i lose my fundies. they really feel like two different modes of drawing, cannot find how to combine them.
also is there a site where you can just pay for a good crit or paintover?

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>>7940534
I am a permabeg. Somehow I have just a few followers. They are all more skilled than me by a fair margin, and some even a bit more.
I really don't know why these people would follow me. Do they actually believe in me? I find it unlikely...

>>7950284
how are you supposed to know which monitor/phone is the true one? I dont even know what's real anymore.

I figured out the bottleneck to my learning. It wasn't obvious, but now that I know I should have no chains holding me back.

>>7951458
some people like watching a beg grow

I want a detached way of engaging with others as an artist online. I don't want others to know I'm a complete loser outside of drawing pictures. Many times I get to becoming friends with other artists and and they gradually distance themselves as they slowly realize I'm a NEET with completely nothing else

>>7951645
>as they slowly realize I'm a NEET with completely nothing else

You're one of many, we all sacrifice our entire lives to this thing I haven't really played videogames in ten years, I've hurt coworkers because they wanted to hang out and I wanted to draw. I deliberately am anti social at work because at my last job I had to hide in a corner in order to get any form of art done during my lunch break. It's nice that you're meeting friends though, best I had was dating and it's soul crushing to date someone who's had an actual life while you've never been to a concert or even to a bowling alley (which I did for a date). You don't have to detach just accept who you are and build your way up from there, that's what I'm doing really.

>>7949753
agreed. i hate looking at my skinny fat body now

>>7951645
I don't distance myself from other artists because they are neets. I can easily share WIPs and critique and encouraging words and post memes and shitposts. But if the other person acts like an energy and attention draining vampire, who only cares about oneway validation, I might not be too excited to chat with them.

I don't know you but you pinning your failings on you being a neet says a lot about your confidence and sense of self worth and honestly I wouldnt want to be your crutch and emotional support.

>>7951645
This is kind of a black pill but friendships are a type of transaction, if you have nothing to offer from yourself then it's pretty hard to maintain a relationship

>>7951656
> friendships are a type of transaction

Every relationship is a transaction. People who hear this tend to go into binary thinking and see it as a bad thing but it's not. People enjoy different things out of a relationship and they're willing to put up with faults/hangups you have to get that. Theres this old book 7 habits of effective people (I forget the name) which describe dealing with people as a bank you deposit by giving them what they enjoy (love, attention, listening to their problems, helping them out) and you withdraw when you ask for things out of them. Family automatically invests in you because you're blood but if you're an addict or criminal there will be a time when you withdrew too much and even your family will not want to deal with you. Knowing about this transaction thing is kind of a cheat code because you can invest in someone and when you have to ask for something the law of reciprocity will beckon them to comply, but in the end of the day most of us just ask for company and that's all we want.

>>7951654
>I wouldnt want to be your crutch and emotional support
That's not what I'm looking for anyway. What I want is to
>share WIPs and critique and encouraging words and post memes and shitposts
but people always want to know more about you eventually, and I have nothing else to share so they're disappointed

>>7951693
>but people always want to know more about you eventually
And who forces you to share things you don't want to share?

SNCA nuke below
I think art should be used as a tool for us becoming better as people and I hate that so many people just treat it like some tool just to gratify themselves that's no different from eating sweets

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>On Disc
>See some people talking a lot
>Open the "Gallery" channel
>Search "From:[Person]"
>No results
>Block
Why do nodraws join art Discords?
I'm seriously asking here there's so many nodraws in these communities..
If I see ONE drawing in the search I don't block, but it's like a 50% chance there's nothing there

>>7951721
I join other artists' and communities discord just out of obligation. If the community is not my cup of tea, I might post bs and memes but I save my art for the discs I somewhat respect and can see client potential. Also just drawfags' discords post even less art because there's no potential audience to market so it's mostly just Water Cooler Talk and people still are reserved because bad takes or saying something negative might lead to PR catastrophe so it's just sterile resources sharing and giving emotional collague support. I have some dirt on fellow artists of the scene and I tell to them to gtfo if I don't like their presence.

So yeah, do evaluate to what communites and discords you want to tie your public image to.

>>7951721
Most of the time those people just want to be a part of a group, they don't care what the group is about.

>>7951721
>he doesn't understand that artists are shy

>>7951735
Shy, yet they won't shut the fuck up.

>>7951738
That's what happens when you feel like a fraud. We all look at other people's art to gauge their power level, these people know they didn't post any so they yap and post memes because they're too anxious about not posting. or they make up copes like >>7951724

>>7951738
Shy doesn't mean one wouldnt talk. Lot of shy people talk a lot to hide being shy. You need to pay attention what they talk, not how much they talk. I'm not shy despite not talking much, I just prioritize the situation and the people I talk with.

Are you young or just dumb as brick?

>>7951748
>Are you young or just dumb as brick?
Lmao, found the non-art poster that won't shut the fuck up. Realize that everyone is annoyed by you and wish you would just go away.

>>7951758
>Anon squealing
Thanks

>accidentally erased mannequin of figure under clothing
luckily it's not needed anymore but boy is that quite the fuck up on my step-by-step process.

Fancaps is such a good resource but holy shit the website UI fucking sucks ass

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>bitch about sucking at lineart to friend
>tells me to just not do it and add lines after the color/rendering
>mfw

It's extremely funny to me when people act emotionally unstable whenever threads they dislike are permitted to exist on this board. Just filter the thread you obsessed nigger kek you will never see it again if you are going to be this bothered by it.

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>commission /beg/ because I want to encourage him
>dips from all socials without even a sketch

>>7952351
if you really want to blow your mind, try drawing the outline under the color layer.

I should've done more figure drawing when I was younger.

>>7952621
You’re from /wao/ aren’t you

>>7952621
You sound pretty emotionally unstable yourself. What's with the Twitter accent?

>>7940534
Another day ruined because I am too bad at drawing :(

How do people understand form? Everyone seems so perfect.

>>7953394
Actually I'm from /mmg/ but nice projection faggot
>>7953426
Brain damage

>>7953462
>How do people understand form? Everyone seems so perfect.

Get high. If you smoke enough you will become too scared to mess up so you'll pull every piece of knowledge about form you have and put it on paper which will inadvertenly show you the holes in your knowledge and allow you to fill them over time.

Or get high/do shrooms for a different perspective. If you're sociable you can just ask your friends for a different perspective no drugs needed, but seeing that you're here...

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>>7953462
studying is not just about learning how to do something correctly, it's also about noticing when something looks wrong and applying the fixes until it looks correct.
If you do enough fixing and correction in this manner through the use of references and studies then eventually your muscle memory will be trained to not make those mistakes, and then it will look like you know what form is to other people

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how we doin' this weekend?

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>>7953693
doubts and ADHD are attempting to kill another project in the womb but I will persist. I just need to finish one character reference for now, it shouldn't even be that hard

Back to drawing after so long, but I feel that it is easier now that I'm older. Or it is the anxiety meds. When I was young, I had so much difficulty with practicing anything.

>>7953695
>kill another project
bro

>>7953730
i know what i said
im trying to make a serious effort with discipline and not increasing the scope this time because i really really hate myself for how much I've just let things drop to the floor because I couldn't keep up more than a week's worth of real progress before entering word doc hell, while everyone else has doing similar things to what i've wanted to do for years because they just lock in like a normal person. I want to finish something even if it sucks

I’ve decided I can’t draw so I’ll KMS

deadass how do you overcome self hatred

>>7953793
Read girl, wash your face by Rachel Hollis

anyone here have experience with acggoods?

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>have all the confidence in the world while drawing but still afraid to attempt some ideas
>thinks can draw pretty well
>goes online and starts crying about not being able to draw
>degrades myself so that anything anyone else says doesn't hurt that much
>puts myself below everyone due to an ingrained mindset from childhood
>any shred of confidence is met with "i dont think thats it"
how do I stop acting like a loser in front of others?

>>7953793
Small steps. Taking care of yourself, treating yourself, letting go of the past. Once you start being proud of yourself you will stop being dependent on the validation of others, too

>>7954056
>ingrained mindset from childhood
Could also be low T or something else. You need to be comfortable with the idea that nobody cares if you suck and if they do it doesn't matter.

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the big picture doesn't matter if you can't deal with the little picture right in front of you. trying to account for everything all at once stretches you thin and gives you no room to enjoy yourself and experiment, just take things one small step at a time

>>7948282
>>7948288
here. i came to say something else but thanking >>7948286
again, your advice helped very much. i’ll be fine now.

a family member like an older brother to me just died last night. please live a very long time and be happy, everyone.

>>7940799
a frame for the streaks to retreat would be greatly appreciated

>>7941740
this video is so fucking sad

>>7951645
at least you have got something going for you lmao

If you have a job but not as a working artist what do you do for money

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>>7951654
>But if the other person acts like an energy and attention draining vampire, who only cares about oneway validation
I fear that I give off this sort of impression

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>get into/inspired by a show/comic/series/whatever
>daydream and fantasize all sorts of scenarios and ideas about it
>Get embarrassed by the idea of doing a fan comic/work that will inevitably stray too far from the original source
>Get even more embarrassed by the idea of people seeing said fan-idea be turned into a "original" one in real time; which would taint it as being derivative

I really am at a mental stalemate here, I don't know what to do with myself. I feel ashamed by how I'm more easily inspired of scenarios from existing sources where the hard work was already done than by things I've came up with on my own; I think seeing others having obvious derivative designs/stories turned me off from ever sharing any overly-ambitious fanwork when I'm already anxious about never having made a significant original project. I'm not sure how else to describe this roadblock I'm at
TLDR: I dunno man, maladaptive daydreaming mixed with ADHD is not a good time

>>7955434
fanfics exist

>>7955080
I'm a code monkey wrangler

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I used to post in /beg/ but either I grew out of it or it has become unusable shit. I don't know where to post my not-comics drawings now.
Also
How do I make it clear this is a zombie and not just a monster girl?

I think I'm turning schizoid, on one hand, haven't felt depressed lately, on the other hand, the turning schizoid part

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>>7955434
honestly doing fan comics like that can give you practice for your own eventual original projects. if it consoles you, your work will always be derivative of something else to some degree; the originality comes from having a deep well of influences. i mean something like JoJo's started off as super similar to Fist of the North Star and look at where it's at now. almost 40 years of Araki accumulating knowledge and life experiences that made his work more original. you shouldn't live in fear of making something cringe-inducing, otherwise you'll never make anything ever.

>>7955512
/beg/ is great though. Even in just within the last week or two I’ve gotten genuinely helpful advice there

>>7955764
I am mogged by all these so called begs, it's demoralizing

>>7955810
There’s a big range of skill levels there, from people who are solidly /int/ to prebegs who just started yesterday and can’t draw a circle. It would be hard to be the absolute worst person in the thread. As long as you’re not completely hopeless, with a couple weeks/months of practice you should be able to get to the point where you’re clearly not the worst person in the thread. And then you can tell yourself “I’m not the worst, I improved” and you can use that to boost your confidence.

>>7955810
Don't worry anon im worse than you

>>7955843
I am not the worst there, but I realize that I kinda reached the limit, a very low ceiling...

I really wish I had art friends, but I'm really shy

>>7955914
Artists are mostly insane shitty people anyway so you’re not missing much

>>7955914
I don't know how beneficial it really is. All like minded friend circles (especially artist ones) tend to pull one another into a whirlpool. In my experience when you are already so critical of your work, being around people who will inevitably have a short handful of catty judgemental people is going to keep you trapped in it. Not through any fault of their own, because they are equally victims. But artists are an angsty bunch. It helps to court people who can relate to you outside of those things.

This is not about drawing but I feel like venting.
I am incapable of having insteresting thoughts/things to talk about. People are bored when I talk or they have a better perspective than what I have. I have a lot of free time but I am unable to remember the stuff I saw/read. The worst of all is knowing my IQ is higher than average (I did the WAIS-IV test a month ago), I fell like a waste of potential.

>>7955512
Make her look more dumb, crosseyed, stitched, ragged, etc to actually look undead

>>7955914
>>7955923
>>7955964
Agreed. I think it is better to hang around people who might not be artists but are interested in art in general or have simmilar tastes, like bookworms rather than competition. I've held art shows for other people in museums and it was ass talking to them, even as an artist myself.
Especially if their art was good.
You do get connections though.

>>7955978
You're a based high spatial low verbal IQ goy. The best thing to do is just say as little as you can and appear like a deep thinker.

>>7955512
Other anon is right her eyes need to look more "dead" or her face should be more grotesque. That being said she already looks a bit like Squigly from Skullgirls as she is now, which is a fine zombie character herself

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>>7955984
>>7956006
I went with this

I feel like I have the skill to make and complete my project, but I'll have to give up my sanity to make it. Is that what being a artist is all about? Giving up your sanity and hand it over to your obsession? I feel like this is where I am stuck at.

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>>7953793
this quote especially helped me a lot when i was younger and i think of it whenever i want to kill myself
if you want to die and you're willing to die then what's wrong with struggling? if struggling makes you want to die then nothing has changed.
this got me through highschool, got me through uni, got me into my first job, and if my interviewing goes well it'll get me into my next. and it got me back into art, too
i'm still suicidal plenty of days but i'm still here y'know and i have days where i almost forget how much it all sucks

being in love improves your art ten fold

>>7956369
True, that.

>>7956369
I am in love with myself

>>7956369
Can confirm but it will also give you less time to focus on drawing. Quality > quantity anyways

>>7956369
>Be genetic failure
>Never fell in love, never had sex
>"I will turn to art to escape from a society that expects me to reproduce"
>

i should allow myself to be bad for a while. perfectionism and ocd ruin everything for me

>>7956497
Draw for fun. Smoke weed or take acid/mushrooms and just draw without worrying about the end result

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Are anime niggas seriously drawing like this all the time

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>>7956369
being in love with a fictional character definitely will

I didn't realise how scewed I was, I thought I'd be able got have +650 euros of neetbucks but it turns out it'll only be 300 because I have a life insurance. How are you supposed to live with this little money even when not paying for rent?
>inb4 get a job
I live in a shithole.

>>7956546
>inb4 get a job

I guess you're just doomed to suffer forever. Learned helplessness is a thing, look it up.

>>7956546
I live in a city in Europe (read: not cheap) and my food budget is only little over 200 euros. Though it took some optimising to get it that low. If you're not budgeting you should start now.

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>>7956514
I think that only works if you’re already good or you’re “right brained” (in which case you probably wouldn’t be asking for advice on /ic/ anyway).
I have to have a specific goal in mind when I draw, even if it’s just studies, otherwise I’d just be aimlessly moving the pencil and not having fun at all. So I have to work towards the goal and try hard to accomplish it, because if I fail to produce a good drawing then I just get frustrated and I hate myself. There doesn’t seem to be any way out.

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>>7956233
I'm sad and I don't know why. I'm about to cry

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I'm jealous of artists who can sketch/draw figures with depth and weight like pic related. The lines feel like they have 'direction' and 'purpose', if I try to draw similarly it comes off as being sporadic.

I suck so much at portraits even the 3/4 angle but when I draw a reasonable pose and I refine the head it comes out good. I don't know what's happening but it's frustrating when I just want to draw heads to design. Anyone like this too?