I HATE this stupid websiteI HATE that everyone is on it but I can't get on it!I HATE that codes are hard to get, oooh we want to keep out the scammers my ass, it's either 1% chance you get a code in a giveaway or you have to do some stupid shit to get a code, people literally make you do free art for them just to give out these damn codesI"M A BROKE ARTIST! I make no money, Ko-fi is dead, everyone flocked to Vgen but I can't get in.I could be taking comissions right now. I could be making money, but instead I've been trying to get a fucking code for months just for the POSSIBILITY TO MAKE MONEY!I HATE VGEN!!!!
>>7950611Anon what's your style, I'll commission you.
is this a shill thread? there's no upsides to vgen over ko-fi
>>7950611Is this the new Deviantart?
>>7950611>invite only>that handFuck the secret club of now draws who hate Ai.
>>7950611if you had enough pull to begin with you would've been able to get by on ko-fiwhy don't you pyw and maybe some kind anon would be willing to give you a code
share art and i could give you a code anon. i also need work really badly... just started using vgen after a long while so not sure if it really does that much for you to get comms but it's good to try and set it up
>>7950611Finally someone who hates VGen as much as I do, how can you promote yourself as commissions made easy when you need to hunt for a code only to get drowned by other posters. This and Art Fight are both /beg/ farms.
>>7950611>>7950683>>7950715You know what they sayIf you complain about the gate, it's doing a good job of keeping you out
>>7950712I did this 4 days ago.
>>7950611I never use vgen but i dont like the gist of it. Why does this site exist? What happened with the ole artist-to-client commision? Why is suddenly people want to become part of this thing? I'm not saying that its fishy, people do get money and art from it, I just dont like the idea of commercialization en masse in a place like this, reminds me of that skillshare and similar site
One youtuber wanted to give me a code once i asked what that site was but i refused
>>7950712I also need some work Really appreciate if anyone share extra code Here's my temp mail and my workbuttchin69420@gmail.com
>>7950817Paypal and payments processors banned porn, so you need a middleman.
>>7950611Fuck those onions cucks meat RULES
>searched my favorite artist>not in thereSafe.
>>7950808Lmao
>"I don't see how you can hate from outside the club, you can't even get in....HAHAHAHAHAHA"
>>7950808aww :)I don't have a code either..Here's my art, in case anyone wants to give me a codeThis time, I drew the popular character "Kanon Shibuya."
>>7950611>>7950683Yeah what's the vibe of this place? I glanced at the front page and it looks to be mostly tumblr fake-anime and furry stuff? Is that accurate or is there more?
>>7950817vgen is probably offering a way to get your foot in the door without having to be interesting or good at art. If someone could get commissions themselves they'd have no reason to go on vgen.
>>7951218easy way to do overpriced comms to rake in that wannabe vtuber money, it's oversaturated af but there's always someone looking for it
>>7951290the processing fees are a bitch too, I lost almost 40 bucks from a 300+ dollar comm
>>7951290>vgen is probably offering a way to get your foot in the door without having to be interesting or good at art. that's literally it. The barrier of entry is low enough that even week 2 /beg/s can easily get commissions because how much it's pushed. The fees are aids and you can't make nsfw art while using it, sine vgen staff actually goes out of their way to check, but at least you can get "easy" commissions I guess...
>>7951337Real talk. No one would give a shit about making "NSFW art" if it didn't pay. At the end of the day you do commissions for the money. You don't care about the actual subject matter of the commission, you're just doing it for the money.
Are these 2-week /beg/s recruiting and offering codes by chance? Asking for a friend... >>7951196
>>7951344Man, if only porn artists would shut the fuck up and draw the porn instead of constantly trying to get validated for selling their souls to the cum gods.
>>7950611just git gud lol
>>7951196Aren't the invite codes supposed to gatekeep this permabegslop from overrunning the site to begin with? Come back in a year.
>>7951368I'm so good.
>>7951368What's wrong with it? I think the girl is cute.
>>7951196I would pay $100 for this. $200 if you color it.
Are commissions still a thing? I imagine people who specifically want nsfw art for a quick nut with their OCs are going to just use AI since they don't care about quality.
what is even the point of vgen? and don't say discoverability because it's terrible at that. and it's still full of scammers despite gatekeeping with codes. i'm always seeing "warning new vgen scam!!" tweetsi have a ko-fi account and my regular commissioners just send money through that
>>7951459> i'm always seeing "warning new vgen scam!!" tweetsThat's just standard online artist witch hunt drama.
>>7950752Based gatekeeper
>>7951459Vgen allows actual R-18 nsfw art comms via Paypal. Ko-fi draws the line at Ecchi.Other than that I think they are basically the same.
Can't you guys just use Pixiv as any other respectable human being?
>i'll give you a code>doesn't give codey u lie to me
>>7951516I no your pain :(If they give you a code, can you give ma. code? Thanks >>7951196
>>7951368>Aren't the invite codes supposed to gatekeep this permabegslop from overrunning the site to begin with?Um no?
Real talk: illustrators are incentivized to give codes to other illustrators, because all you're doing is increasing the pool of sellers, thereby making your wares less valuable.
>>7951541*de-incentivized
Yeah same, this is my work and I couldn’t get the code either so
>>7950611Wow, the mascot is really cute, isn't she? It looks like a fun and friendly place, but when I go to join, it says I need a code. Another social hierarchy? I don't need any of that. I will just draw girls in peace like I've been doing.
i set up a vgen and uploaded what i think are my best works and have received 0 requests, it honestly feels demotalizng but whatever. so yeah op dont feel that bad, you could get a code, put hours into your shop, and have nothing to show for it
>>7951730Do you have extra code?
>>7950611What is this paypal ban in porn? How the fuck does it works?
more infuriating is artists with code who don't do shit
>>7951730You look at the front page feed it's all the same type of stereotypical pastel woman styles with lots of fetish furry shit mixed inWorks like yours (not gayfurrywoman shit) stand no chance
>>7951730I mean this is a cool style but idk what kind of request id give you that works with it.
You still have to bring your own clients. Vgen keeps you anonymous which is imo the reason to use it over a direct invoice.
>>7950611they need a vgen with no women. then anons like >>7951730 would have a better time.
>>7951368I think it's more so a vouch for the person's character, and ensure that AI sloppers don't get on. Vouch for a bad person, get banned along with them - or at least that's how such systems SHOULD work anyway.
>>7950752Literally it's full of shitty fags.
>>7951368No. It's literally nothing but begs. It's to keep everyone else besides begs out. AI art I get. But it's all troony toon tublrites who don't even draw nsfw.
>>7951730It's nothing but other artists. Thread no customer base because they're closed off. They could sell to each ogre but if you also draw why not just make it yourself?
>>7952323*There's.
>>7951887>anonymousSystem already knows who you are and what you do. They don't give a fuck if you draw inflation shota con anon.
>>7952326If they don't care about me then why did they shadowban me from getting a regular job? O.o
>>7952322>all troony toon tublritesYou insult the users and you wonder why they won't give you a code. Brilliant.
>>7952326If you don't use a middleman service like vgen, everyone who commissions you gets your name and address.
>>7950611looked up the ways to get a code and if you're an asocial freak the best you can do is either e-beg on social media or participate in the monthly challenge, but if >>7951589 can't get it then it's joever
>commissions all under $100>just dropped $200 in a single piece from a Twitter artistI feel… not great.
why not just ask crypto payments
Half the artists on here trace ai btw, so /beg/s in here don't get discouraged.pic rel is one of them after taking a 5 minute browse through offerings. There is no QA.
South Park predicted this.
>>7952476I want to commission someone just because I feel bad for them.
>>7952551>they're better than you therefore they trace AIholy cope, that's why they were able to get a code and you weren't
>>7952551I never understood drawing/painting like this. following a reference 1:1 and drawing a girl in a boring void. If I draw Makima I'm giving her a hairy pussy in an erotic position, or have her tits squished against her arms or SOMETHING. That is interesting about these accurately rendered white void drawings? NOTHING. And if the girl in the middle is the artist then its double soulless. what is she saying with these bikini drawings besides "I heard you guys like boobies so heres a character with boobies!"
>>7952100Pretty funny how pro affrimave action moids are when it benefits them kek
>>7952606Back to your containment thread >>7949772
>>7952611Very funny. There are lots of girls here, and not just in that thread.
>>7952592I never tried lmao. I was curious about the site just now then browsed to see what's up. I have 0 issue getting commissions on my own. Just because you are a beginner that can't see tells yet, doesn't mean I am. I'm by no means a pro but I guarantee I can draw well enough to get in.>>7952602It's because anything more complex is beyond their own skillset and doing more requires knowing something about staging or how forms interact with others. or thought.
>>7951589>puccabased
>>7952625Is that image AI?
>>7952625>>7952551>>7952592Surely you too can expect this improvement, anon
>>7952625>>7952602Well, here's the thing. Your drawing is technically doing the same thing: "HERES SEX I HEARD YOU LIKE SEX." I get it, it's more interesting than a character just standing there. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and so is interest. I think you're being unfair.
>>79526332022 - 2026 is plenty of time to improve. A lot can change in a year too, especially when you're a beginner and you're improving more rapidly than you will later in your career where the gains are slower. Also why is your canvas so large lol
>>7952634kinda my point, it IS better even if you think just marginally. The only similarity is in them not having backgrounds and being sexual in nature. You are entitled to your level of interest however>>7952635I realized after the fact that I didn't crop the damn thing. I have only ever opened MS paint 3 times in the past 5 years and didn't realize the canvas expands when you copy paste. Certainly, one can improve immensely in 4 years, but this is not one of those cases
>>7952640Well, there are background objects, I will give it that. It's just not colored yet.
>>7952625Can you get a code so then you can help me get a code? >>7951196
>>7952634the difference is when I draw an anime girl with a hairy pussy, I'm rock hard the whole time and sharing a personal obsession of mine with the world.
If those people can get in, why can't I? I'm not even trying to get rich. I just want to make pocket change so I can afford groceries. And I will improve along the way without AI...
>>7952642Sorry, I've got no interest in jumping though hoops for something I'm probably never going to use.Right now, I can just disappear for months, pop up on any of my twitter art alts, say I'm opening commissions for sketches then people shove comms at me that same day. Gl though.>>7952644>Obsession is when you interact with things for more than 10 minutes. >Quality can only be determined by actual subject matterThank you, anon. You are very smart and cool.
>>7952651>Gl though. ty
>>7952625That doesn't make much sense since the purpose of the site is literally to prevent AI usage. Maybe the reason you're not in is because you use AI.
How do they even guarantee that illustrators aren't using AI? That sounds like it would be a pain to prove for every single person who enters a code. So you have to just trust that the person who gave them the code is both not in on the AI scam and also smart enough to be able to tell that the person they gave the code to is not using AI. Seems like a flimsy system. Furthermore, someone who is selling commissions has a vested interest in not giving codes to anyone, because increasing the amount of sellers on a closed platform increases the seller's competition. So the only people they might give a code to are people who are worse than them, and so you're going to have a lot of low-skill illustrators on the platform who might start to feel like they have to use AI after all to stay competitive. You know what, I don't think the creators of this site thought this through at all. It's just "AI bad" without a deeper understanding of the problem.
the challenge sounds fun, I'll try next month's and see how it goes
