Holy shit, this guy can't fucking draw. I knew he was a meme on here, but I'd never actually watched a video of his. The fact that he had the nerve to get Brandon Hackerson up onto his channel and then show him his 6th-grade sketchbook tier art makes me feel sick to my stomach with 2nd-hand embarrassment.
>>7952414I love Jazza, best art entertainment since art attack.
>>7952414Jazza's lack of style is very common in art Youtubers who focus on teaching other people art rather than spend enough time on developing their own art. It's a phenomenon you can find with public school art teachers as well. If you're an artist who only focuses on teaching the fundamentals to other people, the fundamentals are all that's displayed in your own art rather than any individuality or reflection of the art that you love.There's also the fact that one of his biggest influences is Christopher Hart.It's kind of a shame because Jazza's oldest available art looked pretty good.
Jazza, mark kriley and other permabeg yourubers were the only thing we had back in the day. Imagine how pathetic zoomers have to be to be born with every single art resource available and still fail miserably at art. Zoomers are sub-human, go draw your boxes!
>>7952414Yeah, his entertainment value comes more from being like a more mature version of the 'art attack' show; entertainment from viewing people create things with their craft, and teaching how to create with said craft, but not so much the quality of the final product.His work is amateurish at best most of the time.His biggest sin, for me, is his overly cheery 'good boy UwU' persona. I just don't gel with that.
>>7952425Nah, that's just every other Mormon guy. If they're not bitter and grouchy like Shadiversity, they're overly cheery. But that's typical for people raised in cult environments.
>>7952414I mean he's pretty aware he isn't the best artist, he's an "art influencer". His job is to entertain and sometimes he throws in advice and tips that are basic enough to where it can't lead people astray. It's like going to a play and getting mad that the actors aren't the characters lmao.
>>7952414idk, mogs me
>>7952414He's better than you thoughbeit, unless you pyw showing otherwise
Have some mercy on him, he got crabbed at the very beginning of his art journey due to his brother Shad, giving him some of the worst art learning resources possible
>>7952420Fuck off Shad at least he's not delegated to being a proompter like (You)
>>7952507Shad hates Jazza now because Jazza asked him not to be a fucking sperg at family gatherings
>>7952423>mark krileyHe's actually pretty decent. Go back and look at his Brody Ghost stuff and miki falls--signature work and stands out among the sea of ai sloppa. I attribute Mark Crilley's tutorials when I was a kid to the burned in wrote memory I have now when I don't try.
how do you all know so much about these people
>>7952507>Fuck off Shad at least he's not delegated to being a proompter likeare you sure? he used AI for the background art for his roleplay book he sells lmao.he also use it for his character in RPG.
>>7952783His past videos have gotten better in retrospect. Like compared to even more skillful authors his videos on the process of making comics and what you need to get a professional look is really useful cause you see him learning in real time. Throughout his run of Brody's Ghost the videos he was making publishing standards and storytelling so you can see how he applied the methods he talks about in his actual book. As good as someone like Oda or Araki might be you never see them or their contemporaries kind of catalogue how they are making their shit in real time, its usually like in retrospect and maybe you get the one interview were they happen to be working on a chapter at that time. But the Mark Crilley videos you can see him apply his own logic to his own work and break down the steps
>>7952414Jazza is very good. The problem is that he is wasting his talent.
>>7952795Didn't he change his position and become more staunchly against AI?
>>7952795His earlier books like Shadow of the Conquerer had him collaborating or paying an artist to draw the book cover which he was quite proud of. Imagine any of his readers searching up for his new books and finding out AI generated book contents lmao
>>7952950> Shadow of the Conquerer had him collaborating or paying an artist to draw the book cover Did they draw the Main Character talking to his Dick?
>>7952414He's "good enough"Truth is that with a lot of art career success, while there's a threshold of skill in order to make it, it's far lower than anyone on this board is willing to admitPast that bar, it becomes about marketing yourself
>>7952414I like him
>>7952414Hi shad
>>7952425His wife is fine and his kids are cute, he has nothing to be upset about other than being brother to a lolcow.
>>7952959a good chunk of success is networking, bryan o'malley's story is basically spending a few years going around meeting artists and shit, and then one of his connections hooking him up with a publishing deal because they just had an open spot to fill and remembered his name.
>>7952414Obsessing over the skill level of random artists is peak beg behaviour
>>7952414You'll NEVER deserve that second stat point in art, Shad
>>7952959>>7953176It's even more important nowadays considering the market is so extremely oversaturated that networking and marketing to different degrees are a requirement to not get lost in the noise. The facts are most artists on here are just terrible entrepreneurs.
>>7952959Skill mattered before but the most impottant thing is just being lucky, which includes being early. I could have easily been as successful as o'malley but I was just too young at the time. Sure scott pilgrim can be called good, but if it came out today it would 100% be completely unknown and probably even lolcowed. In 2026 our society is actually so broken that "making it" doesn't exist anymore, in any field. We're all just circling the drain until US, Canada, and Japan collapse for reasons I'm not allowed to say.
>>7953227Post your work and your marketing experience
>>7953227>LolcowedWhy? It's a just a comic and O'Malley isn't terminally online enough to become a lolcow to anyone but schizos
>>7953234irrelevant, if I was born in the 80s I would have hade more of both
>>7952959Picrel is already beyond what most of this board will ever accomplish though.It’s less “the bar is surprisingly low” and more “even very simple art is harder than it looks”.
>>7952954Who knows. I tapped out of his content years ago when it just turned into angry guy yells at cloud podcast
>>7952911This
>so much talk but no one has actually posted any of his art.Get over yourselves. It's not bad
>>7953227>I could have easily been as successful as o'malley but I was just too young at the time.I know, right dude? I could have easily been as big as the Beatles, I just wasn't born yet, and I don't know how to play an instrument... Shit sucks.
>>7952959Actually it's about character and style, don't act like Scott Pilgrim isn't a quality graphic novel, it's very well styalized and well written, vision and characterization is king, being good at drawing just makes it easier, skill is cheap, the average photorealistic portrait drawer is worthless compared to O'malley in terms of overall artistic merit.
>>7953636its not the worst thing ever, but a lot of it has to do with lack of appeal or finesse to it, which feels more indicative of online art during late 2000s/early 2010s. His old flash cartoons looked more tolerable imo
