An art contest from IndonesiaAlready has a few AI slop entries from people pretending they drew the artwork themselves
>>7953859keep your faggot twitter drama on twitter, thanks
>>7953859most indonesian artists on twitter are /beg/tards, the /pro/ ones left the mainstream scene and move to either industry or /d/ tier fetish art that keep their east asian audience well fed since 2015what im trying to say is dont put too much hope in them
>>7953859>https://x.com/Blandlevi1/status/2060352754321850670LMAOThose AI clowns are digging their own graves. They really have no idea how painting and drawing processes work. Literally zero effort shit.
It's always bog standard looking anime art. Sloppers need to get some taste, or at least diversify it.
That pre-color "process" is so fake. But that's the game now. Photobash/composite AI, then claim you drew it with barely cobbled together "draft proof". Trace the AI drawings to fake a draft, normies will never be able to tell. I hope these people win. It'll be so glorious. Accelerate until it all burns down.
>>7953859I like how he clicked 3-4 layers on that shows miniature shit not really part of any character... KEK if somebody believes this retard it's over.
>>7953859>>7953898>.jpg.kraOh my fucking god it's so blatant
>>7953898neither do normalfags nor the people running the competition, they aren't trying to trick everyone, just enough people
>>7953950But he don't even show sketch he just separated parts of characters and scenes into layers and turning them off and on any retard can pick up on this.
>>7953859>i have tech that does things with no effort>oh i know, i will enter the art industrythese people are just retarded
>>7953951nigga, blatant midjourney slop gets past the senile boomers running trad art competitions, who then need to consult sherlock holmes to figure it out, I think you're vastly overestimating the requisite effort hereif twitter autists didn't raise a stink over it, there would be zero need for them to even pretend in the first place, as it is they just need the clueless boomer running this to see enough mongoloids defending them to brush it off
>>7953955if they let this guy go it's over then... you would have to be completely retarded but if it's boomers then i believe you and they will let him be.
>>7953952Nah, they're smart. The dumb ones get caught, but I imagine any high int level artist can easily fake it and make it. Why do a lot of work and study for 10 years grinding boxes, shapes, gestures, lighting, composition, etc when you can just trace/photobash AI and get away with it? Scam and grift has been the motto of the 2020's, from the influencers all the way up to the white house.
>>7953957yep, this is why i keep my art only as a hobby and only post them on 4chan under anonymity to preserve the sacrilege of my art-making process and doing it for the sake of having fun and not commercialization or money oriented goal, hell I literally draw some /a/ and /e/ request from time to time for free as long as I could fulfill their demand and their requests are fun enough to drawWhy? The industry is beyond hopeless, no one can actually escape from aislop hellscape, not a single studio that would back up your artistic idealism and pristine idealist in illustration and design, even like every job offerings out there requires you to use some ai tools and willing to use them on top of it. No one can actually reverse the damage that ai slop has done to this entire culture even if ai and those datacenters disappeared all of a sudden one day. The only wisest thing to do is to back away from it and just keep your hobby for yourself and share it to likeminded people
>>7953956What proof do you have that he's using AI? He already released a video and draft sketches. You will never be able to definitively prove it, so he will never be outted. In fact, after all this, he's going to refine his process even more and fabricate more "proof" next time. He might even release a full video of well rehearsed "proof" to silence the haters forever, and just point to that video in the future if any accusations pop up. And it'll work.
>>7953957>they're smart for pursuing an activity in a highly volatile, oversaturated field until they get found out and lose any chances of ever getting a job again and probably get suedI don't get itbut desu, i am not brown
>>7953974It does not prove anything.I never seen anybody do any kind of rendering with separated layers by part it's just absolute retardation. You do shadows for example on multiple layers, then you add colors which also requires good 5-10 layers and highlights too. Like this what he did ... on that video even professionals wouldn't do that doesn't make any fucking sense. It's literally bullshit.
>>7953975>get found out and lose any chances of ever getting a job again and probably get suedHoly cope. As if they're not going to make a new handle and just continue to cheat. As if they give a damn about your "industry job" when they can live comfortably in the third world off of slopping commissions. As if the majority of them aren't going to get away with it in the first place.
>lol lmao they just gonna make another handle le copeBut who is paying for that shit that it's soooo lucrative than you just can keep making profiles and become rich and famous every single time?Guess, if you homeless, just scam a house?If you in california, just find gold?
>>7953976also this is literally his previous art ... legit one a kind of huge improvement over several months. That guy is a fucking idiot.
>>7953976>It does not prove anything.To experienced artist. To 95% of the world looking in, his "proof" is good enough and it'll just seem like artists going back and forth. And if this idiot had spent a bit of effort to fabricate a believable draft layer, then he'd 100% get away with it, like so many already do.Still, demanding draft layers should be the norm now. If anything it'll force these scammers to actually draw and eat up more of their time and effort, things they desperately do not want to spend (hence their slopping).
>>7953982Time lapses need to be mandatory. Everything else is simply hard to believe.
>>7953980>NOO IT WON'T HAPPEN THEY'LL DEFINITELY GET PUNISHEDKeep coping retard. What is your schizo argument here? That they won't be able to make new handles or people won't pay them? Lmfao, you don't even have any rebuttal, just brainless word salads.
He regressed to insults and deflection.Why do sloppers think they can outsmart everyone when they can't?
>>7953981Even that art is just a 1:1 copy of this CG from the game Blue Archive
>shartys are now baiting ITTAnyway this is the most lazy and zero effort usage of AI.I suspect AI slopper is just some 18yo retard.Let's ignore all redflags and pretend this AI slop is real art. Look at process. Weak, non existent sketch and painting over in mosaic style. Each part was painted on one layer. This is process of very high skilled well trained painter from art school. You rarely see people who can do this. Because this is very high skill way to paint, retarded AI slopper can be instantly exposed on speedpaint. And retarded AI slopper can be exposed with trad painting, cause you should able to paint trad in the same manner. >>7953955>gets past the senile boomers running trad art competitionsNo. It gets past because judges, people involved are AI sloppers. AI bubble is TRILLION $$$+ worth. It is in their interest to shill and normalize AI slop everywhere. Every time you see backlash over AI slop in manga awards it is not because "they" didn't notice. The goal is to normalize AI usage and it is pushed by big corporations across the world because this is corpo cyberpunk dream: removal of human workers to generate better profits and more profits with no efforts.
>>7953974>draft sketchesthats a lineart over a slop image and then finished segments thereafter. nothingis a sketch or drawing. its sketchy but not a sketch. heh
Art competitions need to start adding a AI art clause, where if you're caught using AI, you're getting getting fined. Slopper dickheads will keep being dickhead until you put them in their place, and since it isn't feasible to give physical beatings, the next best thing is to beat their wallet.
Continue to accumulate knowledge, continue to refine your skill. The day of reckoning is going to be a massive reality check to the people who have grown dependent on such fragile system.
>>7953859Indonesians and the rest of SEA are a dishonest people where the primary way of livelihood is stealing, scamming and lying. I hate how these monkeys have to use the same platform as us.
if we made a thread to harass and pick apart every random twitter nobody that traces AI or other art this whole board then this board would have 0% useful threads instead of 1%. like what are we supposed to do now that >>7953981 >>7953997 proves he's a tracer, like are we trying to cancel him or what? is /ic/ just a personal army or something? he's already getting enough shit on twitterOP is probably a permabeg who spends most his time on /vt/ and /vg/ gacha threads as a schizo and is proud to have a 4chan addiction
We've seen this play out countless times in history, a recent one:>America outsourced its manufacturing and labor to China in the 80s>China is now a behemoth of an economy on pace to become the number one economy in the world>The jews want you to outsource your thinking, labor, skills to them>The people who didn't will reap the benefits and premiums that come from autonomy and the spectacle of just having mastery over any skill.
>>7954027no, the people who don't will get priced out of the industry, exactly like your chinese manufacturing examplethe idea you can just tough out a total industrial shift long term is retarded, everything's set up against youas the supply increases, you become more difficult to find by the audience, the audience gets accustomed to the massive output, pushing you into a niche market where competition increases as everyone's competing for the decreasing audience with the attention span to remember you exist while you work so comparatively slowly your audience gets 300 slop drops in between your releasesthis shit will go down just like loot boxes, drm and dlc, the industry has enough money to wait for the younger market to grow up with the smell of shit in their nostrils until they just accept it as normalcy
>>7954026These threads are just the same faggots trying to """"own the meatcels drawslaves""""" for epic laughs ylyl discord compilations so they/them don't have to think about committing suicide for being a living abomination.
>>7954037TRUE! BUT, ARTISAN ART BITCH. HIPSTERS AND NOSTALGIA MARKET
>>7954026>4chan>personal armykek, 4chan is an anonymous imageboard for a reason, if 4chan users had the power to cancel people, Subu would have been cancelled a long time ago
>>7954037Art is not the same as mass produced forged iron, anon. Following your advice1. You won't be an artist anymore, you'll be an AI babysitter2. If the output increases so much and is accepted by society at large, than the market value of art collapses all around and no one will buy it anyway, AI or hand made.Imo artists will survive and thrive despite this direct attack they suffer from corporations and ai "art" will continue to get shunned right up the point when AI will be more thoroughly legislated.On the flip side, I think AI is forcing artists to drop the whole "anyone can be an artist, just scribble some shit on a canvas and call it art" scam that's modern art. Sooner art comes back to applied skill rather than bananas duck taped to a wall, the better
>>7953997hahaha kek...
/ic/ is the kiwifarms of art communities
>>7954049yes, that's the ever shrinking high competition niche market I referred to>>7954057you'll note I didn't give any advice, I merely pointed out your position is false, sticking to art as an industry will be the same as sticking to shoemaking as an industry, the market for a handful of shoemakers does exist, but not for 99.9% of hitherto shoemakerstake a step back and look at the issue without personal investment, rather than artist, consider copywriterscopywriting is absolutely over, maybe 1 copywriter in ten thousand has the ability to outdo ai in any meaningful sense, and of those, how many will be kept on permanent employment or be able to get enough work to justify focusing on it as their career?granted, art is slightly better off in the sense that people get irrationally attached to artists, but it's also worse because the average 12 year old on twitter isn't going to spam his epic copywriting all over the internetalso, you're absolutely wrong about the last point, this will just make them double down because the people saying that don't have technical skill to be called artists otherwise, people could always stuff spaghetti in their vagina and tape bananas on walls, the accessibility of their "work" was never a factor and is even less so now that actual technical "drawing" is made accessible to everyone
So can you win anything? This doesn't look like a contest. It's just a fanart cross promotion thing.
>>7954080>sticking to art as an industry will be the same as sticking to shoemaking as an industry, the market for a handful of shoemakers does exist, but not for 99.9% of hitherto shoemakersThis is just fear mongering AI propaganda. There is no indication this is the way the industry is heading to. Not even in concept art has this been a thing, where AI can just spit out concepts with an astonishing rate.Chess has been dominated by machines for the last 15 years and it hasn't put human grandmasters out of work. And chess, even tho is an artform in itself, it's much less useful than art is.This future you're imagining where human art is obsolete is not happening. Music, painting, 3d modeling, vfx, in none of the fields you people keep proselytizing the eventual collapse
>>7953859Why do this though? There is a market for AI art, a big one to.
>>7953859>>7953898HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>7953859This was his art from a week ago.That's some crazy improvement in one week!https://x.com/Blandlevi1/status/2060363615946035415
>>7954093Talentbros...
Why is /ic/ gatekeeping now?
>>7954089>There is a market for AI art, a big one to.Is there? I think anyone who actually wants AI art would just prompt it themselves.
>>7954080These are some weird false equivalencies. Bookwriting still exists, copywriting is a retarded comparison.Cobblers still exists, it's called cordwaining and there's both hobbyist and a traditional market that still practices it. Is it this massive industry? Of course not, but neither was making art.
>>7954103>Bookwriting still existsShould we tell him?
>>7954103Art was a massive industry, every single poster, catalog, book cover, map, advertisement, instruction manual, concept, design, building plan, industrial schematic etc etc even most lettering used to be drawn by someone just decades ago, even in the early 2000s all media had artists in pre production, most in production as well. In the 50s and 60s the most celebrated artists alive ran a mail in art school because there was so much demand for art they feared the industry would implode and they'd lose the sweetest gig in history because there was too much work. They literally PAID to broadcast drawing and painting lessons on television to get people into the industry. Remember this was the absolute peak of marketing, Rockwell and Leyendecker literally made enough money to buy the average house every 2 covers while the average in-house artist at a literallywho publication could buy one in 2 years of work.
>>7954153You're talking about people that were the absolute best in their field. 20 years ago telling someone to go to art college was considered a joke because people back then still knew it wasn't a viable career.Actors, sports players, musicians all have people who get paid millions, yet no one thinks pursuing those careers is a good idea because again, it's not actually an industry were tons of people can make it in.
>>7954099Even proompting something passable requires some skill. It's still obviously far less than drawing the whole thing yourself but tard wrangling the AI is like changing a car battery or removing a hornet's nest in your garage, it's in the realm of "yeah I COULD do it myself, but this guy will do it faster and safer for a 20".If you run a business it generally makes sense to just pay people to do stuff, you could spend maybe an hour and a half making this picture between the prompts, inpainting and all, but that's an hour and a half you didn't spend doing something else that'd make more profit than the prompter ate.
>>7953859we need to close internet borders, that would solve this problem. Its too lucrative for thirdies to get into ai and make serious money with no effort. Let them scam each other.
>>7954189Art school was a joke because it's liberal daycare that doesn't teach drawing, zoomie. not because the art industry wasn't big.>You're talking about people that were the absolute best in their fieldI suggest you learn to read.
>>7954090This is so accurate.I don't mind AI, but trying to pretend you actualy made it is ridiculous, just be honest.
>>7954204The point wasn't about just art colleges being a joke, you absolute fucking retard, but about how art as a career path hasn't been viable for almost a hundred fucking years. People decades prior did not pursue art as a career path because they saw it as something to make lots of money from, that's just phenomenally fucking retarded reasoning and you'd be hard pressed to find any boomer who thought otherwise. they did it because they were passionate about art regardless.My entire point, that you spear chucking favela niggers seem to have a hard time grasping every time this is brought up, is that the fear mongering over AI replacing artists is just a braindead take, because the ONLY people who make it in art, are those who were passionate about it anyways.
>>7954189the CA pipeline boom was still going strong in 2015
>>7954206this to me it's a problem that solves itself. ai art even at its best never looks "good". if you see a lot of it, you can always tell. whoever uses ai art is limited by ai tools. ai art is so hated that anyone who is found out to use ai is mocked and bullied out. the only people who genuinely prefer this stuff or think it's on the level of actual art are spiritually pigs or corpos, so who gives a fuck
>>7954215CA died well before AI was ever a thing.
>>7954214It was very viable, zoomzoom, art school wasn't. Get born a decade earlier before you reply to me again.
>>7954219>pretending to be retardedIt literally wasn't, but I accept you concession.
>>7954218not really, lockdowns killed CA
>>7954220Greentext isn't for summarizing your own posts, please lurk before posting.
>>7954222Still waiting for an actual argument. You no draw retards can spew shit about AI fearmongering all you want but the fact is, art wasn't a viable career path for decades prior, but that didn't stop people from pursuing the medium regardless.
Holy shit, zoomers are fucking illiterate.
>hur dur le zoomzoom!Amazing thesis, faggot.
>can't even spell hurr durrLurk before posting, zoomie
Still waiting an an actual argument favela nigger.
>>7954219>It was very viable>doesn't even know where the phrase "starving artists" came from>a phrase coined because creatives sacrificed material wealth for their craftKeking at this literal nodraw.
>>7954245>animatorsanimators got cucked by tezukike, check what mangaka earn
>>7954245>where the phrase "starving artists" came fromA book about Bobemian poets bumming and blasting absinthe where it doesn't actually refer to visual artists, later associated with painters through Van Gogh, whose lack of commercial success is mistaken for lack of money by retards despite him having been relatively wealthy all his life, why?
>>7954265Thanks JeetPT. I'm sure all the millions of comic/maga/animators are rolling in cash.
>>7954268If there are millions of maga animators, why does Trump keep posting slop?
>>7954270Because he's orange and retarded, like the rest of the sloppers.
>>7954270>>7954271He's also old. The biggest fans of slop seem to be the elderly. He probably sees the video of himself flying a jet and dropping a deuce on protestors' heads, gets confused, and thinks he actually did that.
