>>7954034
No. Yes.

>>7954035
What did he ever do to you, huh?

>>7954034
meh, no, i love marshall tho

>>7954034
he's ok
not really, I just put his podcast with marshall in the background sometimes

>>7954034
dont really like him, he has helped me a tiny bit

>>7954034
yes, no

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I hated this bean.

hate him. along with loomis.

>>7954336
why? because you can't draw it?

>>7954378
Other types of exercises helped me more in learning. I had trouble translating from the bean fold studies to the actual body.
Also, my beans were indeed uglier than most.

he's helped and hindered me
before I really stuck with drawing and I got good at it, his figure and gesture videos hurt me a lot. Since he's a skilled and classically trained artist, he subconsciously bakes form, anatomy, and perspective into his gesture drawings.

So, when I would try and do my beginner gestures, I would get extremely frustrated that my gestures never looked like his - even though gesture at its most basic isn't at all supposed to look like his owing to the fact that, y'know, he's pre-baking several other areas of study (form/perspective/anatomy) into his gestures.
He never really points this out or even seems to be aware of it further than "if you're new at this you'll probably need more time! :)"

this made me give up several times until I found alternative resources for gesture and figure drawing that emphasized what gesture is really supposed to be about

>>7954478
what resources

>>7954034
idk where i'd be without this guy, sinix design, moderndayjames, marc brunet and marco bucci

i definitely do and he has for sure, even if i watched his videos very much later than most people. he seems really nice.

>>7954034
No, no
I started improving when I stopped listening to people like him who pretend to be good. Never draw a head using circles and middle lines

>>7954034
His channel is great to find professional artists to learn from. His video with Aaron blaise changed my life because it introduced me to Aaron blaise. But proko himself is infuriating to listen to and I completely disregard his advice. To this day I cant finish the podcast with James Gurney, Marshall, and proko because proko wont shut the fuck up! I dont care about anything he has to say. I think hes a soulless grifter that doesnt actually care about art but he found a great way to make money on youtube

>>7956025
post your head

>>7954034

No, and his methods feel too arbitrary and at times even dead.

Just go for the real thing, Glenn Vilppu

>>7954034
No he is annoying as fuck.
He had good guests on podcasts but he is too retarded to handle even basic conversation.

>>7954034
he hasn't helped me but I have helped him.

>>7954034
No. No.
Beginners shouldnt grind gesture

Yes, I like him, he helped me a lot
When I started, I was completely lost anon, he gave me a good starting point

>>7954034
His interviews and videos with other artists are cool. I'm glad those exist. But as for his own original content, no not really. He's just another constructoid. And a pretty mediocre artist tbqh

>>7954034
His courses are ok but he was smart to expand his business to include other (better) artists. I appreciate all the free youtube content and he's based for actually letting you download the courses you buy on his site.

>>7954034
Yup. the forms he teaches upped my game.

no and every course ive bought has been a mistake tbqh

>>7954034
Not a big fan of Proko, he's unfunny and overrated. Im not saying he is not good, he certainly is but theres better out there. I prefer Brunet with his shitty yet more believable humor(its genuinely retarded humor but it still makes me chuckle without effort) plus his aesthetics align better with my interests, as much of a shill as he is about his course/art program, it doesnt feel like he actually believes he is 'that guy', Proko on the other hand does come across as the guy who believes it but he tries to mask that with this fake humble persona, imo.

I mean, Marc is probably the same, all artists are narcissitic prics deep down or right on the surface, but I feel more comfortable watching baldy talk art than Proko and his ever receding head of hair pretending to be cool and authentic.

>>7954045
Hell yeah! He adds the whimsical touch we all need when we are so focused on results and perfection. The podcast are fantastic for their knowledge and the camaraderie they provide. Their dynamic is the stuff of pixie dust.

>>7956074
I havent noticed any quirks or idiosyncrasies that impede a conversation. Mayne you wanted a presentation instead of dialogue between to artist.

>>7965149
Same opinion here, I just don't get the contempt for shilling their own programs since it's their own business, specially since they give you info for free. I'd consider them shills if they'd pushed someone else's product.
Brunet's streams where he made corrections to his students were so good, shame he doesn't share them publicly anymore.