explain

>>7954117
>An art program
>An improvement trap
Even if you think the program is shit, to say it's an "improvement trap" is silly. A good artist can even make great art in MSpaint! You're just blaming your lack of skill on the tools, and not looking at your own lack of effort.

So anyway, onto the Topic of the thread:
>ITT: only the massivest of /beg/ improvement traps.
Krita.

>>7954126
>explain
to summarize:
>is advertised as an art program
>is easily to most wonkiest, shittiest lineweight feel of all the art programs out there
>using large brushes will lag it massively and sometiems even crashes because of it
>crappy stock brushes

even sai 1.0 is better than that shit

>>7954155
yup

>>7954117
But that's not photoshop.

shut the fuck up faggots csp is great

>>7954242
t. Perma/beg/

>>7954242
This. It's literally the perfect drawing application, probably a skill issue from OP

>>7954246
it's
>t.
kritacuck

>>7954247
exactly. for me it's only outmogged by procreate. ipads are fucking pricy though

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CSP UI is soo

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>>7954259
Kritas:

If CSP and Krita are bad, what is good?

>>7954117
I'm not comfortable with how grayscale and value works in this software, though I argue that their blending tools, perspective tools, and communities are probably the best in the market right now. Photoshop is way more preferrable because of its printing system and opacity layer alone.
But....... I'd take csp any day over procreate, that one is even more dangerous for /beg/ because it gives them the illusion of being able to draw, because the devs have made the program into something accessible to people that even someone who cant draw something could make a nice looking acrylic gradation in their ipad

>>7954318
Physical paper

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>>7954318
https://www.wellobserve.com/OurPaint/index_en.html OurPaint :^)

>>7954360
>furry

>>7954143
I have been finding the filters and color tools in Krita lacking lately. Considering switching to GIMP

>client bought me a CSP license some time ago to work on a comic
>I used Krita instead because I'm more familiar with it
>I just used CSP to add text and speech balloons to each page
>some time passes
>same client sent me some brushes he would like me to use in his next commission
>I'm still using Krita
Damn it! Do I really have to learn how to use that program now?

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My first drawing program was ibispaintX. What does that say about me?

>>7954393
You're a third worlder

>>7954396
I am from Florida

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>>7954117
I got out of beghell using csp

>>7954397
case on point

>>7954626
>case on point
projection

>>7954257
Csp gives you wayyyy more options than procreate.

>>7954393
That's what im using. Beside limited screentones, am i missing anything?

>>7954375
that's how you know it's good, software by someone from STEM fields that has way too much free time ? jackpot.

>>7954360
>infinite canvas
sold

>>7954666
Unless it is AI vibe coded.

>>7954666
trips of truth
mentioning of the color management tells me that it is at least a semi-serious tool

>>7954850
dev's a furry, they fucking hate AI and anything related to it with a passion

>>7954117
Ibis

>>7954360
Can I use it on my phone?

>>7954257
>exactly. for me it's only outmogged by procreate. ipads are fucking pricy though
the apple pencil input delay is really horrible, it feels like i'm pulling it through treacle. maybe it's good for painting, i wouldn't know, i suck at that, and maybe it's good for inking, i wouldn't know, because i can never stand the feel for long enough to produce a sketch good enough that'd warrant throwing my entire workflow at it.
at least this thing will never depreciate in value, people love apple products

A bad workman blames his tools.

>>7954869
there's an android apk on the itch.io page but it's like 12 USD https://chengdulittlea.itch.io/ourpaint

>>7954247
>skill issue
probably a reddit post from you

But yes, CSP is awesome.

>>7954931
>easily to most wonkiest, shittiest lineweight feel of all the art programs out there
It's literally OP not knowing how to use the program.

>>7954910
Yeah bro I ain't buying shit
12$ is my monthly rent

>>7954257
Procreate is fucking garbage compared to PS and CSP
t. been using it for almost 2 years

>>7954952
I know, I was just making fun of your reddit-speak. It's all good though.

>>7955042
Skill issue isn't reddit speak. What a dumb post.

>>7955225
Okay reddit

>>7955405
>being this new
Go back.

>>7954390
Text tools on CSP are garbage that's true tho

>>7954629
>iMax theatre calling out projector

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>>7954117
>/beg/ improvement traps
the biggest improvement trap is creating crab threads and not PYW little bitch

>>7954149
>Largest free library in existence of brushes and accessible settings to modify them any way you want.
How you managed to figure out how to use a phone enough to make your post is beyond me.

>>7954149
>Skill issue
>Works on my machine
>Have you tried turning it off and on?

>>7954117
Honestly the truth, I started digital and worked primarily digital, but my speed and line quality improved when I picked up traditional art. When you can't undo a line over and over, or have a perfect eraser you are forced to slow down and think about it before you irrecoverably ruin a piece.
If you have only worked in digital like me, I really suggest you sketch a bit with pencil and paper.

>>7959531
>Reddit post

>>7960884
pen and paper and yes, it's very common advice for digital artists and it really does help

>>7960897
Yes ultimately pen and paper would be better, but I'm not psychologically ready for that conversation.

>>7960899
>pen and paper

Once you realize that you can draw it again it's less daunting. It's also easier when you find the areas in which you can mess up in- For example fixing the head shape by covering it in the shadows of the hair or the cast shadow by the head.

What does suffer though is your ability to do longer projects.

>>7954117
I personally think CSP has the most responsive feel for lineart of every digital painting software out there. The real issue with CSP is that Celsys just stopped updating the drawing & painting features. If you look at the trajectory of the release notes it's almost all 3D, asset store slop and bloat now. The current management probably think it's "good enough" and have no interest in actually improving the software and adress the core issues that users have been pointing out for years. They just want to squeeze as much money out of it as possible.

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the only reason I haven't switch off of CSP is because it has a lot of comfort and timesaving features that Sai doesn't
if CSP bothered to fix its brushes at all it would literally become the best art program overnight

>>7955579
Needs a third panel, feels too empty.

>>7954859
I think it is also older than competent AI.
Everything coded before 2026 with AI wasn't done by a developer. AI really only got useable this year.

>>7954902
The older I get the more I appreciate tools.
Bad tools can kill passions. It should be illegal to sell bad paints, guitars, whatever.

My dad was a cheapskate and bought me the cheapest Temu 1$ things in existence when I was a teen.

I always considered myself cursed until I got to try real colors. A wonder I didn't give up earlier. I wonder how many artists we've lost to 1$ watercolor sets.

Inb4 I am ungrateful to my dad.
It probably would be better if he didn't buy anything, though I appreciate the spirit of it. The grey paper also sucked and immediately broke when watercolor was applied upon.

Tools matter.

>>7954977
Where do you live?
Time for me to retire in peace or take a 2 year break in some shithole and focus on art and workouts.

>>7954859
That's not true. Every devs I've seen has been glazing Claude Code like it's the next coming of Jesus until their $200 subscription starts throttling their tokens

>>7954117
Jazza.

>>7963475
they as in furry

>>7954143
kek

>>7954360
Very interesting

>>7960888
>Concession

>>7954117
Okay hear me, what you wanna do is avoiding shitty art programs like Krita, csp, sai, gimp and Photoshop

Avoid any tablet manufactured in a country

Don't fall for the draw boxes, Loomis, just draw and feel the form traps

what you wanna do is make random threads on \ic\ complaining about beg traps and permabegness. You also want to crab on random artists you find online to reassure yourself of your superiority

>>7962721
I can't tell the difference in your picrel. Elaborate on the brushes issue?

>>7968729
Nigga cmon, one has jaggy pixels and the other has clean pixel perfect ones.

I like hipaint. it's nice to use