If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7952197
>no (You)s>no crits>my best ever work, still didn't make the thumbnailI'm about to go insane and turn into one of /ic/s pet schizos
>>7956078
>my doodle is in the OP againNeat!
some weird hogarth arms
>>7956095try to draw them from memory toootherwise it's easy to forget all the details / placements
I shouldn't have tried to paint this. The dog was way bigger than the one in the reference, and it took too much out of the face. I had to remove some of the fur on the right so the face would show. Atleast I got into the OP.
Currently doing that Hat Kid drawing with the shapes method
>>7956078link work and I can tell you why you didn't get in or why I didn't crit you
>>7956114>>7953666I guess I should have asked for a crit idk. Don't really care about the thumbnail, I'm being facetious.
>>7956119I like the blond figure, the others are kinda boring / lazybut it's hard to crit without knowing what you're going for or what your goal is
I'm trying to find a way to do fundamentals that gives me dopamine and won't make me give up in 30 seconds. I've tried drawabox and just gave up immediately, same thing with Loomis.
Oh you retards are about to feed the troll again aren't you
>>7956131Nigga, which fucking one?
>>7956119didn't include it because I tend to avoid things I have to crop and I'm really just fast skimming through gallery mode and grabbing whatever catches my eye for the op.people probably didn't really crit you because while your drawings are nice (some of them) they vary so much in style subject and effort. critiquing all of them is a hassle and drawing a clear correlation like for someone who drew 3 characters in a similar style is much harder because you can't directly compare them to each other. unless you just want a superficial x and y drawing look good which you already know yourself which ones I'm referring to (blonde and orange hair) so replying is redundant.Now for an actual critique on the blonde swimsuit:The ear placement looks incredibly off especially with the eyebrow reaching that far. the braided hair isn't really convincing either. That being said it is still a decent drawing some of the coloring is nice just not super exiciting that's something you could try to develop further
shadowbanned by OP again.. T--T
>>7956112Very unsettling composition.
>>7956138Thanks a lot anon, that's genuinely great feedback
>>7956142white women dog molestation
random stuff still cant draw hands heads or feet well
here begins my humiliation ritual of copying morpho basic forms with an uncomfortable thin brush / no stabilization / no fun colored linesnot really upset that it looks bad, since that's how studies are meant to go, right? the idea is to improve on something your're bad at (eventually (hopefully))
>>7956096>>7956148what are you studying? looks helpful since the stomach | connection between chest and pelvis is something it's bad at
>>7956159https://e-hentai.org/g/3412406/96f1edcc4d/?p=6
>>7956156you learn better if your studies look nice
>>7956165wow broeye-opening>>7956160should've known
>>7955865i prefer drawing in black and white i think, which drawing is the better one?
>>7956170the color version of your sheeva drawing doesn't look bad, it looks like the first step of rendering, you just laid down the flats.this monster hunter qt looks incredible btw, great draftsmanship
>>7956174i know i called the colors flats too, problem is that i cant really make the shadows make sense and everything always look muddy, this is a drawing i made some time ago and you can see how i tend to fuck up my shadows.
>>7956182>>7956170Can you draw a futa uma musume with an anatomically correct gigantic horsecock? Do you have a blog?
>>7956185i dont have a blog and i dont know what uma musume is
>>7956182can't comment on the shadows but I would've redone the shape of the futa's cock. I also feel like there's a missed story beat of the popsicle and cock having a visual connection or something
>>7956192> I also feel like there's a missed story beat of the popsicle and cock having a visual connection or somethingi didnt even think about this while drawing it like a week/month ago.
>>7956156>the idea is to improve on something your're bad at (eventually (hopefully))It is and studies do not necessarily need to look great, but that is usually because you're ignoring some other fundamentals to isolate the thing you're trying to learn. For me I use the studies to understand how to use the concepts being shown to me. Picrel- I had to draw a wolf for a piece and didn't want to learn all the anatomy as intimately as I know human cause (bc that'll take months/years) So I adopted the system and then tried to add it to my tool belt. The main focus was getting the concept of the system down (second was understanding the hair), so I noted what I did right so I can replicate it and things to work on next time. This is like the first one I did that's why it's in this beat up sketch book, but after I would continue to churn them out while addressing the holes I see in my logic. So I would ask; Are you understanding what you're drawing and applying it or just copying?
>>7956170based monhun enjoyerI've been playing a bit latelyI think #2 is the coolest
>>7956210yeah it has the best composition but there is something about 4 that i really like, it reminds me of classic yugioh for some reason, that's why i finished.
>>7956204Those wolves look kind of bad, so here's the thumbnail that I'm gonna go with and refine digitally because the paper cannot take anymore abuse.
>>7956212I can see how it fits showing off a new weapon too, good job
I need to make a calendar of character birthdays so I can make fanart to post on the actual day… I’ll remember a birthday like two days before it and not have enough time to finish something before it arrives
>>7956204uuuuuuuuuuuuhI'm copying the drawings I see in the morpho book
Can someone give me a good perspective guide and fundamental guide? I feel like I'm still getting nowhere, and all the guides that people have recommended me look too complicated for me. I'm still feeling stuck and I don't know what to do.
>>7956236I told you once and you said to fuck off
>>7956241I don't even know who the fuck you are.
>>7956243You should probably be nicer to everyone who tries to help you in that case. But instead people will tell you how to get better and you will say something like “That shit is so boring fuck off.”
I really want to make/render art in the style of Fear & Hunger for a grimdark multiplayer game my friend is making. Can someone explain what the hell he's doing in this video and how I replicate it in Clip Studio Paint maybe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9i-KyIb4r8pic (somewhat) unrelated. I tried to draw this cat girl fat and old and realistic
Bricks made easy.
>>7956156morpho filtered me so youre mogging me
>>7956246I've been calmly explaining why each thing that people give me is too complicated for me to figure out.
>>7956256then maybe stop being dumb in the brain and just figure it out? figuring out how to do shit is literally the process of improving. thats how you get better at art actually. if you're going to constantly deflect to protect your ego, you're never going to improve.
>>7956256The sticky is simple, maybe it could help you with your fundies.
>>7956260That's my problem, I can't figure it out. Even when looking at tutorials, I just only end up being able to draw what's in the tutorial and not actually apply it to whatever I want to draw. >>7956263I've tried Loomis before but felt like I couldn't get anywhere.
>>7956221I like copying, it's fun and easy you don't have to worry about where the drawing is going.You will learn something from copying , though it won't be as much from actually applying the things you've learned. I find blindly copying something useful for filling up my visual library or maintaining your skills for when I'm being lazy, but if I need to grow I need to analyze what I put down (even if my hypothesis are wrong) and stress testing it to make sure that my knowledge is solid.If you're going to copy I think >>7956160 is better especially the head structure part. Morpho seems more of a reference for figure drawing, Also if you're just copying paying attention to the draftsmanship of who you're copying is better, especially in these types of books because they're boiling down the knowledge in to the bare bones essentials without going into rendering as much.
>>7956267I don't get what you're trying to make me understand, but I'm gonna stick with morpho since I've already started, hopping from one source to another will just lead to me not going through with any of it>if you're just copying paying attention to the draftsmanship of who you're copying is betterno meaning to me
I keep trying to do Loomis but every time I try, I always end up giving up around this part because it's too difficult for me. I never know how the fuck to do this.
>>7956248>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9i-KyIb4r8>step 1: undersketch / lineart combo (working on a single layer it seems>step 2: block in colors>step 3: shadingLooks fairly straightforward to me. He's using the same brush and potentially working with changes in opacity. I don't see many changes in his brush size, however, so he might have that disabled for pressure. His color selection leans towards more muted colors too, so that could also help you. But he really embraces the singular layer look.Because as I'm looking at it now, he's using several layers for this but I am pretty sure you could acheive this look on a single layer. His canvas also seems to be hilariously small, though I couldn't tell you the resolution. The small size helps with the pixelation I think, since larger images would just be clearer, losing the muddiness of his style. I think he's shading with black, too, and doing generally a lot of stuff most old school artists would rip your ass over. He works from big to small, bigger chunks to smaller chunks of color, refining with each layer and the like. Was there a specific part you didn't understand?
>>7956236How To Draw by Scott Robertson
>>7956278Just downloaded it and I'm looking through it, but this looks really complicated too.
>>7956289Start with perspective made easy
>>7956236the first step is to draw nice ellipseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xFEV2uOp1M
>>7956293How does this work if I'm using digital?
>>7956289>>7956295Every single suggestion made to you is met with reasons why you can’t do it. Why are you here then? Why should anyone bother talking to you?
>>7956300It seems like there is a different problem.
>practicing ellipses is too complicated for him
Like what? Every fucking guide looks too complicated for me. I gave up on Loomis around the body construction part because it looked too complicated.>>7956303I'm saying that the actual act of putting all this together is too complicated. Not the drawing of the ellipses. I just did a quarter canvas full of them.
does ic have any mods?
THREAD CHALLENGE
>>7956302>>7956298Like what? Every fucking guide looks genuinely too complicated for me and I can't figure it out. Every single one of them. Even loomis was too much for me.
>>7956289yeah it's pretty tough. But you learn a lot if you just lmao do two pages per day. Read each sentence that's written. Get a piece of paper. Write down laymen's terms for it. He has a LOT of great advice. If you translate it into idiot speak, then it becomes insanely eye-opening. The only thing is that you can't just look at the whole book and give up; you have to sit down and eat this elephant one bite at a time.
>>7956308I do like my refs made out of pieces and with 3 legs
On a lighter note, I'm really happy with how this hand turned out.
>>7956316Pointer finger shouldn't be longer than the middle or ring finger.
>>7956248That's a really fucking ugly brush and i want it. It looks like a messy shiyoon wahoo cartoon brush + another crappy brush for coloring.Not doable in chink studio paint, Drawpile has similar brushes to photoshop try that one it's free. >4:3 window to visualise how it fits in rpg maker Smurt
>>7956069Today’s perspective practice
I drew an ugly goblin
>>7956305Yes.
HELP ME GOD PLEASE HELP ME
>>7956336You don't deserve it. No one here does. Ungrateful fags.
>>7954550I think I will start lineart if it looks ok
Tried fixing it
Oh wow, I made it into the sticky :D
>>7956112Cute! Rinoa Quinoa
Here's my attempt at using the shape's method.
>>7956341the far shoe looks broken, the near one is much better now
so is this already bad
>>7956347I’ll work on it some more, ty!
and a little more detail
>>7956338Hey, what did I do to you? I am just posting my bricks.
>>7956341Contortionist spine
>>7956356You asked for God. I have sent you my talented son to enlighten y'all, and you deny him (you)s. Now y'all writhe forever in darkness, you won't see him no more.
>>7956355Hatkidian, possibly pawellian
WipTrying to draw more full pages/scenes lately
>>7956275I assume the small canvas is because he's working on an RPGMaker game and the resolution is very small.I think I am just not understanding this method or maybe I need to try it on something more basic/understand more about rendering/painting in general?I blocked in a base color, then set the brush to 50% opacity, picked another color, then periodically color picked the shade inbetween to soften the edge but I don't think it came out right. Your drawing there is very good.
>>7956304based IQlet
>>7956374he's pretty aware of the planes of the head, so value changes correspond to themthe actual plane transitions are not that soft, he lays out a few transition colors/values and reuses them instead of smudging everything to oblivion
>>7956342nice choice of colors
Guess I'm posting in beg againBlog guy is right I only do it for the attention Anyway uuh is it clear this thing is undead?
This thread seems better. The /dad/ one got invaded by some drama anons. Currently trying to draw heads from various angles. Any advice?
>>7956397>>7952671
>>7956393No it just looks like a fish creature or something.Do (full color) studies of zombie art you want to imitate
Cleaned it up a bit and made the cape look better.
I didn't do it great but I understood the process of setting proportions a lot better. I can see where I went way off the reference
Fig. Hands are trash and the torso is too long. I've been telling myself to study hands for the last 2 months now but I never seem to get around to it.>>7956414I got mogged...>>7956403It looks the exact same. Just do what I do and copy a photograph. Draw from life, you'll get better.
i drew dis girl
>>7956402I don't really have a specific zombie girl in mindI'm doing my own thing To be fair everyone in this project is a zombie so maybe I don't need to be stereotypical every single timeMmhDesign is hard!
>>7956417Really loving this
>>7956417Cool
>>7956417No you didn't
>>7956415I really struggle with the same thing but look at the pose again and the angles of the hips
>>7956448he's been posting here for years newfag
and then now here it is finished
>>7956455Hu uh
It really annoys the fuck out of me that I come on here, post work, ask a very specific question and get drowned out by:>extremely amateur drawing with zero comment or question>1 hour and 30 minutes later he posts again having drawn like 2 more lines with zero comment or questionWhen you're new you need to draw a LOT and FAIL FAST. Do MANY drawings QUICKLY. Are these people genuinely retarded? When you communicate with someone, you are doing it with the intention of a response, right? What response do they expect to receive on this work? Do you people just know to ignore these fags?
>>7956474Which post of yours got ignored
>>7956455good you didnt hear that nigger telling you to draw shorter necks, they look good.
>>7956474who is hurting your feelings anon
>>7956474Even pros get zero feedback here. Why do you expect to be the exception? This place suck ass.
>>7956476My post didn't get ignored, it just annoys the fuck out of me. Why post if you don't ask for specific feedback? >>7956481This is understandable given there are few pros and many beginners, of course a pro wouldn't get much feedback.
>>7956248fun project
>>7956393i mean yeah cus your drew her like a Frankenstein, but why does she have a squid instead of having hair>>7956322so close actually you just copied the image from the book exactly>>7956417sad you didnt hear that black man telling you to draw shorter necks, they look bad.
>>7956487God dammit, can you add me one something and tell me how you do this? I'm clearly too retarded.
>>7956484>Why post if you don't ask for specific feedback?I personally draw for fun
>>7956491>>7956387the difficult part is controlling your values and making the right planes (you can use an asaro head for an easy to understand simplification)the rest having ref beside you so that you can use similar shapes and proportions as he does, and sticking to desaturated / cool temperature colorsand of course paint everything in one layer
>>7956493Then stop wasting peoples time and the image limit on the thread by posting your inane retarded faggot scribbles and leave.
>>7956494I have to go to bed, but I'll give it a try tomorrow. This has been very useful, thank you!
>>7956495no :^)
>>7956069continuing this character sheet
>>7956499I always love your line weighting. Is she an OC?
Is my sense of depth fucked or does this already feel flatMaybe I do have brain damage
>>7956501
>>7956500Bay from nikke!
>>7956503i can’t tell if this is ai or not
>>7956503>no panty flash when she does the high kickwhats even the point
>>7956505at least you can mess up with the game assets
ok I've done 7 days of spheres trying to understand form.I dont think I feel any different though
How many more years before I can draw an anime girl face? This took about 7 hours btw
>>7956512How long did this one take you?
>>7956502Pick a face from any artist you like at the same angleFinish your face.Compare it and see where you're wrong. If you want to add depth to the drawing you will need line thickness, color or hatching
>>7956517draw both eyes at the same time, just doing one leads to bad habits. getting them both right at the same time is very important.
Am I gmi.
Bridgman or hogarth? I already know some construction and perspective and I'm moving on to anatomy. which one shall I pick?
>>7956512When you draw the contour lines, can you imagine your pen going in to the drawing and wrapping aroung the ball? Or did you just learn where you need to place the contours so they look right to you? Draw some balls from reference. There are website that show your randomly rotated wireframes
>>7956551both are a bit more advanced if you're just getting into anatomy. michael hampton, steve huston or morpho would be a lot easier.
Here's a basic grid copy resource I made for myself when I started. Pretty much every art resource or tutorial assumes you have a basic understanding of how to accurately copy something. You try to do all these construction methods and wonder why it doesn't look like it is supposed to when you can't even draw or copy simple shapes. You smash your head against a wall with no hope of ever improving crying out why nobody can help you, but no amount of advice is gonna help or is ever going to be good enough if you can't act on it. When someone tells you to draw a sphere and to cut it in half once horizontally and once vertically and you end up with THIS >>7956512 , I'm sorry to single you out but be assured you are not the only one in this general. Then what the fuck are you doing?I know I know grid copies aren't super fun, but is staying a prebeg for the next 10 years or until you get lucky and it somehow clicks after smashing your head against a wall repeatedly really better than doing a bunch of grid copies for a few weeks? And No if you already know by just innately getting it or having had your breakthrough through this initial barrier already, then I am not talking to you, this post is meant for the mentally downtrodden who literally have to start at ground zero.
