>>7956172
It's not the worst thing, but why not just look up an actual reference? It'd be a lot more accurate.
If you're trying to reference something that doesn't exist, you're delegating the actual creative work to an AI.

how often do you draw something with fewer mistakes than your reference, retard?

>>7956172

Yeah

>>7956172
Well, as long as you can correct/detect the mistakes. Otherwise, you are just one more pajeet.

>more Ai threads on the art board
Huge win for Ai. Artists are obsolete.

Wouldn't recommend since ai often makes mistakes, some are less noticable than others especially if you are /beg/ tier.

>>7956176
>but why not just look up an actual reference
Because sometimes there are very specific poses or things you wanna draw but you can't find any good references for them.

>>7956172
No rules, only tools.

>>7956208
and how are you gonna make an ai produce your "very specific pose" that you can't find on the internet nor take a picture of yourself, retard?

>>7956215
Watch your mouth you fucking cocksucker

>>7956172
>>7956208
Are you actually asking or are you just hoping for validation that it's not a bad thing?

>>7956339
I'm asking for advice you narcissistic faggot

>>7956172
Nah, but be warned that the result may be different than how the pose/whatever should look like. Kind of a last resort or a way to see a specific style

>>7956172
yeah it is very fast, efficient. You can cut down learning time from 5 years to 1 year. Definitely

>>7956172
yes

>>7956172
Yes it is a bad thing, you will get bad habits
if you use like 98% real refs and 2% AI ref I guess you're fine

>>7956208
Then you're going to have to compromise somewhat and use a reference that isn't exactly what you're looking for - like use a straight one backshot as your reference to place the muscles onto a 3/4 turn backshot drawing.
Even using AI, you'll not be able to prompt exactly what you want often.

Besides, if we're talking poses, there are free 3D artist models for referencing, that'd be quicker and easier to use than fiddling about with an AI.

To me, it just seems like the more you rely on AI, the less creative input you are giving your work, so what's the point of the art then?
Even if you make some mistakes, so long as they're not displeasing to the eye, that's your artistic decision, compared to just following along with whatever was plopped out by the AI.

>>7956172
just promt the drawing bro

>>7956527
it's permabegs looking for the next secret trick that will let them finally draw for real this time

>>7956227
>jeet doesn't address the issue nor think about the mechanics of his "idea"
>fantasizes about gay sex instead
curious

>>7956208
Learn blender and you'll get more control
Use 3D models supplemented with photos of your own body and you won't need AI for anything.
It's not whether using AI is bad in itself (it kinda is, maybe, but that's beside the point) it's that AI is just bad at what it does and you're hamstringing yourself. If you're going to cheat there are just flat out better ways to cheat.
3D models aren't going to randomly change their proportions or morph into something else entirely when you rotate them around and you can trust their perspective to be always correct. You can pose and rotate them to any specific angle that you need without having to pray that RNG brings you something close enough. You can place light sources wherever you want and simulate whatever materials without having to guess what words to use so the goofy algorithm maybe understands what you want if you get lucky.
You can adjust focal length to exactly what's needed, etc. etc. More control, precision, exactness, accuracy.
AI is like an artist in the sense that it's fallible and makes mistakes, which makes it less useful as a tool that is meant to reduce your chance of making mistakes, which is what references are supposed to be for.

>>7956209
A tool for a fool is nothing but a fool's tool.

>>7956538
Not really worried about permabegs tracing 3D or AIslop. cuz most of the time they don't enjoy the act of drawing and learning anyway, they'll be bored in 6 months tops. Unless they could keep up on it like Cris and Gabe.

>>7956562
Your dick is a fools tool

>>7956575
respect your mother

>>7956556
people who trace 3d models are just as much scum as ai "i need it to brainstorm" users. There's a million photo references to use and also you can just get better at drawing from imagination.

>>7956612
This thread wasn't about tracing before you showed up.

>>7956614
what i said still applies, using blender for figure reference makes you a loser in the eyes of anyone who draws.

>>7956615
Why would referencing a photo be different?

>>7956617
usually you are working off partial refs, rather than just working off a 3d model that solves all proportions and (most) anatomy for you. it's just brain dead and creatively bankrupt if you skip all the problem solving.

>>7956615
I'm not overly concerned with what sonichu99 from deviantart thinks. None of the people who paid my salaries in the past 20 years seemed to care.

>>7956620
I mean you can also deliberately work off partial or imperfect 3D models rendered from the wrong angles if you're worried about the task not being challenging enough or killing your creativity or whatever.
And you could also take your own photos of staged scenes tweaking all the conditions until there's nothing to manually problem solve in the drawing phase.
It's about how you use your references not where the references come from.

Not really, it's the same as photobashing. I used a slop image for a pose of an animal I wasn't getting after looking for hours on pinterest and like 4 different search engines- I didn't generate it, but google showed me this clearly shopped picture but the anatomy was solid enough (the fur had that creepy AI feel though)

theyre bad reference because theyre mostly wrong and very stiff

>>7956215
>and how are you gonna make an ai produce your "very specific pose" that you can't find on the internet nor take a picture of yourself
You can send it a rough sketch of the pose or an unfinished picture and tell it which element you need it to visualize. Obviously it's a terrible idea to use it for any sort of detailed anatomy (gets shit wrong in ways you won't even realize as a beg), but if you've got a stylized picture you just want to finish and feel burnt out spending hours looking up references instead of drawing, it does the job. I'm not proud of it but I've done it as a last resort.

>>7956897
okay, so it's a terrible idea to use it for anatomy, so you sketch a pose to have it make a reference for the pose you already sketched with bad anatomy
are you dumb?

>>7956903
I said detailed anatomy, meaning muscles, bone, what have you. If you're not going for realism and just want the general perspective and proportions of the pose it's usually smart enough to get it right even from a bad sketch.

>>7956906
>meaning muscles, bone, what have you
that's what anatomy is, there's no lower level anatomy than that
why the fuck would you need a reference for proportions, are you retarded?

>>7956378
holy projection

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>>7956172
Nah i've been using it to plan my future career