I tried grinding the fundamentals (the retarded boxes, anatomy, gesture/construction etc) and got bored out of my fucking mind, making me take long breaks between studying. The digital painting technique is the only way I don't feel like killing myself whenever I try to make a drawing.My question is how long can I get away with my lack of fundies if I plan on selling my work?
>>7961991Is the girl on the left supposed to look horrific?
>>7961994Apologize now.
>>7962002No I will absolutely not, there's no fucking way this guy unironically used that pic to advertise his "teaching" right?
>>7961991>My question is how long can I get away with my lack of fundies if I plan on selling my work?as soon as another professional artist stumble upon your work and scrutinize it lmao
>>7961991The art market is insanely unbelievably crowded and competitive. If your work is not professional quality you won't get anywhere. You can know if your work is professional quality by just taking one look at it and being honest with yourself. It's really not that hard, you just have to be willing to evaluate yourself honestly without bias.If you don't have the quality then you need to keep working. If you are professional level then it doesn't matter how you got there, "fundies" or not.
>>7962005>>7962002Well I dont think its a finished drawing but the more you look at it there are quite few errors in it that really needs to be worked on.
>>7961991Cringix is an AI-shill and ultra woke, sadly.
>>7961991kek, sinix crabbed so many retards with his fake process videos, I love that little jew almost as much as that gypsy sycra
>>7961991>painting like a sculptorThe irony is that sculptors start their works like a good drawing.They use armatures which is analogous to gesture. They build out with large blocks that are refined down to specific shapes. They do a lot of division, measuring, and planning, and care deeply about symmetry and how things look from different angles.This painting shows a very selective understanding of sculpture, to be polite about it.
>This is troll, right?Picrel was the best I'd churn out as a whiney no-fundies turd polisher. It's mostly luck and there's a reason why I couldn't finish it.
>>7961991i think being close minded about drawing is bad, doing light and shadow takes longer, and its a lot more frustrating (imagine spending half an hour trying to sculpt some shapes, constantky thinking about how much of a fucking idiot you are for doing so little and getting angry random shit your bran comes up with because you are that fucking bored), but if you cant draw something well enough you might just accept that a more 2d brush style of things is the way to go
>>7962117are those both yours or are you copying a ref?
>>7962117the tree and background look good 2bh, you fucked up the figure by flattening and isolating it with lines and mismatched lighting
>>7962141These are layers on the same picture. Its all the drawing I did before rendering. I was showing how little I cared for drawing properly. I think picrel was my main reference, since it was in the same folder.To be clear, this is not a flex like "you don't need fundies bro". This picture was me probably 5 years into being an almost-no-fundie retard. I studied values and color extensively while attempting to COPY anatomy (just visual, no formal studies at all). I disregarded form, proportion, compostion, and perspective entirely, basically, I had no idea how to make a picture other than "wing it". It took another 5 years for me to become halfway competent after studying everything else, but the imbalance of leaning on rendering alone for so long still fucks with me a lot. Not worth it. Learn fundies.
>>7962177I appreciate that, but: 1. Those aren't meant to be lines LMAO, its the shitty sketch I did to place the character because I COULDN'T draw at all.2. I know that the process involved excessive amounts use of the transform tool to make things look "OK".3. I fucked it because I didn't study fundies.
>>7962182bruh, the parts you drew are the weakest, you fucked up your value and color perception with the excessive lines graying everything out, killing edges and throwing off your valueslook at the tree, the values go 80% to dark and accents 90%, your figure bottoms out at 50% and is muddy shityou do have a fundamentals problem, you also have a not knowing how to paint problem>>7962187the sketch is made of lines in the image that you were looking at as you "painted" which fucked up your perception>the process involved excessive amounts use of the transform tool to make things look "OK"every process involves that, I scrap off paint in trad and so did old masters>I fucked it because I didn't study fundies.no, you fucked up because you didn't study the actual painting process and shot yourself in the footfundies are good, ignoring technique and the actual mistake you're making is retarded, there's a reason you could model some forms but not others in the image
>>7962190Oooo I was about to defend myself against a retard.
>>7962190>the process involved excessive amounts use of the TRANSFORM tool>every process involves that, I scrap off paint in TRAD and SO DID OLD MASTERSHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!?!?!??!
>>7962195>>7962196stay retarded, I guess
>>7962197I appreciate you trying to help (?), but its a 10-year-old unfinished picture. It really didn't require critique.In any case, It makes no sense to advise someone who admits they can't draw and just want to skip to rendering after scratching out a terrible sketch that they have a technique and process problem. The math aint working on that for me.
>>7962236So did you get better? Post something new.
>>7962264Kinda, I shifted direction after learning to draw though. But I don't draw too often nowadays. You gotta understand though, from not being able to draw to drawing this is a big jump.
>>7962279I genuinely can't tell if you're serious.
>>7962282Dead serious. Now PYW.
>>7962285Nah, I'm good, dog.Yikes, by the way.
>>7961994she's meant to be a weird looking elf so yeah she's there to show a completely "invented" face made from the principles of thinking planarly when painting
>>7962289Aww, what a shame. Really wanted to see a master at work. Nevermind.
>>7962293Okay.
>>7962295Cool. Next time, STFU if you cant back up what you're saying.
>>7962298Back up what? You said it's been 10 years and I asked if you improved, then you posted what I hope for your sake is some gay vendettafag shit.
>>7962307PYW faggot. You can't leave it all in me to prove my skill level when you wanna sit in a corner acting like your anything but a No-Draw.Also, you think I've been sitting in a room drawing for 10 whole years? Are you stupid?
>>7962316How do you call someone a nodraw while calling him stupid for expecting you to draw in the same breath, are you having a meltie?
>>7962319Meltie? Until you PYW Im chilling dumbass.
>>7962326Okay.
>>7962326Fr? U be chilling n sheet? Dayum unc... aight bet finna lock in and pyw ong
>>7962330My bad, forgot this was TikTok.
>>7962035Wait what? He shills AI? Since when????
>>7962292Obviously one should avoid thinking planarly while painting, then
