Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.Some free resources:https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timedhttps://www.quickposes.com/enhttp://reference.sketchdaily.net/enhttps://quickposes.com/en/gestures/randomhttps://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-indexhttps://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/https://app.posemy.art/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practicehttps://www.rkgk.org/Might as well check the archives and active /ic/ threads for references:>>/ic/thread/7019067#p7019080>>/ic/thread/2015637>>/ic/thread/6864584>>/ic/thread/2023233https://4chanarchives.com/board/ic/thread/2015637Previous thread >>7917253
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>>7965698what if she was turned the other way and her butte squeezed on the shoulder?
>>7965698same guy as before, checking on the thread, why didnt you exaggerate her turn / shoulder going forward more so that the hand ends up on the line of action while still having verticality?like this it just looks fucked up
whitepill me on Burne Hogarth
2 more later after a small break
>>7965698is her leg broken
>>7965802>>7965822>>7966124Damn guys not too much on my drawing lmao I did it in the middle of Latin class. Got the ref from the textbook
Some stuff from today, used some different times this time, and everytime i go lower than 5 it just feels like i am scribbleing nonsense.these 30sec to 1min drawings have to be bullshit or
>>7966117running out of steam noticeably, but still felt productive
>>7966009he taught steve huston
Some zebra people I made
>>7966235you could use the very quick intervals to practice shape design. e.g. what does a simplified hand look like. what shape does the pec make in x pose from y angle. etc.
>>7966235Who or what did you study for faces? They are very cute. Especially if you just slapped them onto a fig.
>>7967691use plumb lines + landmarks
>>7967656Dope
>>7967659i guess i could try that, but even then the time to actually think about what you are doing is way too short, at least for me>>7967665nothing in particular desu, i guess it just came with drawing pinterest portraits and simplifying the face features.
>>7967656you have to be particularly mindful about how things relate to each other when working in that kind of perspective since its much harder to measure than when working with everyday poses and youre likely much less used to seeing bodies from those angles. perspective guides are a huge help. that said, you can cheat the perspective somewhat when doing these heroic poses from such extreme angles, and probably should so you can show off form without being shackled to foreshortening and ugly shapes. for example, the far leg not quite being in perspective (or if it is, not mirroring the near leg in how far out its placed -- see the little diagram) lets you avoid a stumpy looking leg. but if you push it too far things start looking off, as if some parts dont connect to the rest of the figure, like with the trapezius.>>7968445shouldnt really be thinking about it in the moment. you can look over the stuff later and pick out shapes you thought were good and aim for more like those next session or you can look at other artists.
>>7968479Thanks a lot for the tips. It's my first time trying to draw in perspective so I knew it looked fucked up. The correction looks awesome btw. Really nice shapes.
Is something off here?some advice/ an edit would be appreciated!
need to know if what I am doing is right>i am now making my blocks more align with perspective>i sketch a gesture drawing as my first step>then go with a blocky mannequin based on perspective as stated>then i modifyis that good or is there a missing thing?
>>7968479>>7965680Literally HOW did you reach this level?
>>7968918nta but keep drawing and do it a lot o would guess. repeat ad naseum, be concious, study etc.
>>7968521imo the most eyecatching errors are the mismatched breast size and the tail seeming to both go off to her side (on account of how you painted the cross-contour indications) and hover above her butt. >>7968923yeah just lots of practice and study.
Trying to study morpho but all the shit he draws is so ugly I had to stop
>>7968918By studying
>>7968954thanks for pointing out those errors, anon. I'll work on it tomorrow. Should be easy to fix
Is this good? How do I improve it, like is there something specific that can be altered?
>>7965680how do i draw like this...................
>>7969780was already answered itt, please scroll up>>7969754move on to the next one and the next one and the next one till you are satisfied
>>7969791i mean is there something that could be improved or modified?
When making the torso using blocks, how do you connect the chest and pelvis to make the abdomen? It always looks off for me
>>7969799post examples of how you do it
>>7970272
>>7970298i dunno man, that looks fine to me
>>7970299so maybe it's just a confidence thing still it can look better
>>7969082what book is this from?
i feel i work way slower on digitalalso should've worked in the overall gesture and structure first in order to have better proportions and placement
>>7970585ref
>>7965680i am trying to draw the middle guy but i cant get the steps right
Trying to get back into it. Can't shade with pen for shit, but I'm happy with the proportions.
>>7970452Hampton
>>7970878I love the quality of whatever you're using gives to the lines, this felt satisfying to look at>>7968479idk what else to say other than wow this just looks sick afI did this the other day, I know her forearms all fucked up and I ran out of time for the other hand :( Maybe Ill get back to it after work tomorrow.
>>7970606what am I doing wrong?
Figs from the last week. 5 mins, up to 10 if I was vibing with it
>>7970878very nice
struggling :(
>>7972156There's a lack of overlap here, her left shoulder is far too visible when it really should be hidden behind the trapezius and ribcage. You should always think a lot about what would overlap what when drawing, a common mistake is to try "showing off" all parts of the body when really a lot more would be hidden than you think.
>>7972160thanks anon, ill keep all of that in mind and retry.. reference just for context. I can definitely now see what youre referring too about the shoulder
>>7971197Your lines r way too dark for just a sketch so its hard to tell what's going on, for sketching I generally recommend going over it with the lightest lines you can do first, and then using a darker line when you're fully confident in it, that way the final sketch will show what you've committed to at a glance.Besides that, most of this looks fine but I have no idea what you're trying to do with his right arm, the right shoulder for example is indistinguishable. It also seems like you're switching between vague gestures and form drawing for different parts which I think can fuck with your frame of reference. Finally, his left shoulder doesn't really look connected to the ribcage at all.
>>7972168ok so how can I fix those problems besides the pencil darkness? I really am confused, also I was trying to draw the middle guy from OP's pic
>>7969406howd it turn out?
Is there a term for how to draw figures more "weighty"? I don't mean like fatties, but I find that my figures look way too still and floaty. I really don't know how else to even express it.
>>7972706just show an example of what you are talking about>>7972175 you say there is a problem, be specific, what are you considering the problem? contour? line quality? shape? volume? what are you trying to target? >>7972156with what?
>>7966117>>7966237fukken awesome
>>7970878I really like your style. The shoulders on a couple of them are so satisfying.
>>7972779you or some anon listed the issues, but i don't know how to fix them that's all like the gesture and form relationship
pastel pencil
Is there any way to make figure drawing fun? I enjoy drawing faces but bodies are a chore and I really struggle with it
>>7973357Learning anatomy. It's more fun when you understand what you're drawing.
>>7972783if it werent scorching i'd've done more since then. if i survive till monday i have to play catch up
>>7972788because this is confusing
>>7973353lovely
>>7973353i need a tutorial on how you built up the values and rendering of her hair
>>7971197
>>7974562Based
>>7974562damn thanks, this can help
>>7974562do you use vanishing points when drawing the cubes?
>>7974562>7965680Good ol Hitokaku
>>7974562Rare JD Vance
>>7974567No. Unless you're drawing an extreme closeup or other kinds of special perspectives, the vanishing points for a face are so far away as to be almost negligible.You also don't need absolute accuracy for organic forms, just enough accuracy to not break logic. You don't need all of the line sets to converge on the correct points on the correct horizon, but you do need the lines to seem to converge in the right direction.
120 seconds each, I think I'm too autistic to get gestures right
>>7974772
Some lazy figsI'm melting
>>7975156>I'm meltingi aint drawing till monday, possibly sunday afternoon once the rain starts. t'was a good excuse to be lazy. i admire your effort to grind while cooking alive. true spirit
>croquis cafe stopped being public and free years back>ges draw party stopped making new videos and is just recycling old ones as "focus studies"what else is there for this particular style of art studio modeling video with short timed poses that actually have the model hold a pose instead of just using photos?
are these any good?
need to practice foreshortening for a bit
>>7976667Do you have the ref on this one? This is nice...
>>7976675https://posespace.com/img/512/oliviap051.jpg
>>7965680If I wanted to learn coarse-but-accurate figure drawing for the purpose of taking judo and other martial arts notes what vocabulary would I use to describe what I'm after and what would be the fastest way to grind that skill?pic from another judo Anon on /xs/
>>7977987like irl or watching judo videos and quick sketching? That's quick sketching, you should be thinking of coarse shape and gesture primarily as you won't have more than 15-20 seconds to get a pose on paper.https://www.amazon.com/Quick-Sketching-Ron-Husband-Expanded/dp/1138336742https://www.amazon.com/Drawn-Life-Classes-Stanchfield-Lectures/dp/1032494816those would be your bibles, both available on annas-archive.
>>7977993>irl or watching judo videosBoth, and also from what I'm picturing in my head after a practice session. >That's quick sketching, you should be thinking of coarse shape and gesture primarily as you won't have more than 15-20 seconds to get a pose on paper.>Quick Sketching with Ron Husband>Drawn to Life: 20 Golden Years of Disney Master Classes: Two Volume Set: The Walt Stanchfield Lectures>those would be your bibles, both available on annas-archive.Thank you, I'll check those out now. I like the cover art for the Ron Husband book, sumo is very popular on /xs/.
>>7974562simon never fails to deliver
Got two questions:- I wacthed Michael Hampton stuff on /fig/ and I didn't really like it. Any other course on this that'll help me get better- Is tracing over a reference picture a good exercice or is it just time wasting in the sens that you're just following along lines and not thinking about what you're doing?
>>7974562Hand seems a bit too small, arms too thin ass cheeks should be bigger and peeking behind the legs more for this level of fat and muscle mass . Oh, and the foot arch seems a bit straight and awkward. Everything else seems ok
>>7979252
>>7980723
From one of my last model sessions. I really like the end result.
Hey /fig/, picking up the pencil again.>>7976667nice hips.
The proportions are off but I wasn’t focusing on them, I was just trying to learn the muscles and get the pose correct.I understand the perspective is off, but I’m struggling to understand the angle and orientation of the pelvis and legs. Could someone redline this for me? He looks like he’s just standing up even though I know his ribcage is bent down towards us and his legs are bent up.
>>7982910The pelvis is much more open in front, with the ASIS closer to the sides. Also his legs are more bent/foreshortened, especially his right one
Don't die yet.I struggled pretty hard trying to depict the lats on number 3.
quick sketches from photo reference
>>7988735very nice
Why are you deleting everything? Fuck off, what did I do?
Asking for critique and tips on this pls:>>7989458>>7989459
>>7965680https://youtu.be/pspSu2mnI0E
>>7989554i see a nigger
>>7988735good thing they're "quick", i was beginning to worry...
>>7989620i would hate to make you worry
>>7990282Are you, like, a famous or known artist?
>>7990282Nice hatches
>>7965698You could also exaggerate the motion of the guy to sell the swinging arms of the woman. Good piece
>>7965680are animal figures allowed? ive been learning to draw horses recently, finally starting to feel okay-ish about em
>>7990315Those look solid
>>7990315no
>>7990324thanks. they were pretty rough at first but i just kept grinding at it. they were from imagination, forgot to mention
i have absolutely zero clue what i am doing, i would like some guidance on how exactly to go about figure drawing (with the end goal of being able to draw a full body from some well placed boxes)i've basically only drawn floating animu heads up until this point, if i try to draw without constantly moving my sketch over the reference it ends up way off
>>7990468a less gesturey one
>>7990468think of figure drawing like a handful of different pools of knowledge that you have to fill in order to start getting somewhere.you have to (in no certain order) get really comfortable drawing boxes. do this until the perspective starts feeling natural or intuitive (takes a while, but it is achievable)learn how to draw confident and clean straight lineslearn proportions and ratios so you can set up your figures extremely quickly. this is helped by practicing dividing one straight line in half, in thirds, in fifths, etc.learn anatomy (especially the skeleton) so that you build an intuitive sense of how big everything should be in relation to everything else, and how the body is connected together, so you can illustrate the muscles (you can't express a contour you don't know)learn and practice shadow to help your figures have a sense of volume and depthonce you fill all of these pools of knowledge a little bit they start to flow into each other. the last and most important thing is volume. draw, draw, draw. spend an hour doing 1 minute sketches. an hour doing 5 minute sketches. an hour doing 10 minute sketches. try to capture as much of the figure as you can within each time limit. practice for the rest of your life.ok have fun good luck. don't draw anime.
I think now I understand how to use gesture
trying some ideas >>7990315I allow it post more
Did anyone read Patrick Jones books?I like his style of figure drawing and his books look pretty digestable for someone less experienced.
1 min gesturinos
Some models really are superior to others for drawing. I was fussing about how I couldn't get the big S line on the hip of #3 right until I started relating it to that pronounced sacrum on her.>>7991526I'm a big fan of Patrick Jones. I've drawn a few things from his anatomy of style books, not so much read.I love watching him draw and talk about his thinking process.>>7991658Gah daym at that thick one.
>>7970684i think the shading on the torso and thighs looks good! :D I think if u shaded the armpit and the lat muscles on the side of the ribs it could give the top part more depth. <3Also heres some 5 min studies I did critique is welcome :P
>>7991681Fat women are my forte
>>7991681>Some models really are superior to others for drawing/beg/ opinion. the success of your drawing is based on your own accuracy, knowledge, and skill. if you can't draw a model from a photo, that's on you, not the model.
>>7968923>>7969082>>7968954honestly I was hoping for something more specific. "Just study more" is redundant advice. Any artists, artbooks, courses or inspirations in particular? C'mon I wanna draw like you!
>>7992313>I wanna draw like youwhy? don't you want to see what YOUR art will become instead of molding it to fit someone elses
>>7992334kek some guy sees motivation and people just get difficult saying "why would you want that". Crazy.>instead of molding it to fit someone elsesYou do that in small ways regardless.
I dont get it. Its like stepping into an alien website full of porn addicts every time i look on /ic/.
>>7992334He meant "as good as" rather than "copy", which is quite different. I would like to know too, indeed.
can my /beg/ gestures get some critique in here any ideas on what to improve first in these?
>>7992404You have some sort of crippling mental illness
>>7992313The best ones are pretty much Loomis, Hampton, Huston, Bridgman, Morpho, Hogarth with Anatomy for Sculptors.
>>7992450Proportions. I assume some of these are from a reference with lots of foreshortening. Try to not do those too much in the beginning. A regular camera lens is already a step away from reality, no need to add more distortion when you're starting out.There's more emphasis on the lower body, so I guess that's what you're comfortable with. Try to spend a bit more time on the torso.
>>7992450They are very flat and you don't really understand what you're doing. I suggest grinding some forms and perspective with construction first so you can understand the process.
>>7992503thanks>>7992526>some forms and perspective with construction first so you can understand the process.any good resources for this also thanks
>>7993116Perspective made easy, Marshall for perspective.Hampton is great for construction.
>>7993300thank you very much
an attempt of rendering, what helped you guys understand that>>7992450I think you should draw along artist who do gestures like Hide and Reiq, that helped me a ton
>>7995389i like these. nice
>>7995562
>>7989617>racismsuse the designated area>>>/pol/
proportions are hard
>>7996656not if you grind them. see >>7996312
>>7995389If you want to paint, don't draw the lines.You are good at line work, but it's really a crutch for bad rendering
>>7996656Ugly mess. Simplify more. Back to basics.
>>7996706You're Correct that it's bad but I knew that before I posted it. Anything else?
>>7997452MY EYES
>>7997458Turn your render resolution up
I can't understand why hampton is famous among artists
Is this bump the acromion or the end of the clavicle?
>>7998496It’s popular among techofaggots who are unable to differentiate the organic from the inorganic. Let them be filtered out.
>>7998636pretty sure it’s the acromioclavicular joint
>>7998921WTF. There is a joint connecting them.. Bloody Proko saar did not explain this
>>7998949probs because it’s mostly fibrocartilage and he was speaking on the main boney masses
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>>7999115i really like this one.
Going to focus on figures for the next month. This is roughly where I'm currently at, other than getting the balls to not hide hands is there any non obvious ways I'm fucking up?
>>7999511I’m glad to hear it >>7999563Really work on simplicity. Seems like you’ve got the larger, complex contours down especially around the torso but proportions are a bit all over the place and some things aren’t drawn correctly like the knee for example. Draw lots of mannequins, simple studies,and proportion drawings to get a better understanding of how the body works at a basic level and THEN add the details.
box figs
>>8001090Very nice, I like how loose they are
>>8001090I need to get better at drawing hands
some drawings i did at a life drawing class
Forgot to post some crappy studies
>>7975472>posts kino>gets no (You)sWhat's wrong with this board
>>7965680How do I get better?
>>7999115this is good. post more pls
Day 3 of practicing art again. 3 10 min figure studies. This time I swear I won't stop for 5 years like last time....
>>8003864Depends on your goals, you probably made it more muscular on purpose so that's fine, but the head lacks Loomis even if it's not apparent at first. Start with that maybe, you're on the right track already>>8004041Good, keep it up anon
>>7981611
Can you guys have a look at my loli drawing before I start rendering please? I'm not super happy with the torso.Can you guys have a look at my loli drawing before I start rendering please? I'm not super happy with the torso.
>>8004227I'm an idiot, copypasted the text instead of the link lmao.https://files.catbox.moe/5gq1iu.png
>>8004068love these do you recommend any resources to achieve this
>>8004068>>8004318glad you enjoy them>any resources to achieve thisSteve Huston NMA, he makes it really simple and fun imo
Today's set of 3 10 minute figure studies. Want to draw at least one hour per day. I Definitely need to study up on proportions again. I also feel that I consistently struggle with placing the hips vs ribcage area. My drawings tend to have longer stomachs/midsections because of that.I also realize that not really understanding the anatomy of the thigh and hips and how they attach really trips me up. Remembering that I felt the same thing previously. Legs are consistently frustrating. Progress is progress though.
>>8004814You’re drawing the rib cage as a fat oval. It’s more like an egg. It’s widest around one third from the bottom before significantly narrowing all the way to the top. Also it’s covered by a lot of muscle, but on the figure on the left you draw it occupying the entire chest. The figure on the right is bizarre because it looks closer to a proper rib cage shape, but only if you turn it upside down. Look up anatomical refs and 3D models instead of guessing
Todays work
Now what am I supposed to do?
>>8004886just show an example>>8005055what do you mean?
>>8005055Just keep drawing
>>8005132>Just keep drawingthe /fig/ classic
>>8004886I see, yeah I can see the top of the ovals I tend to draw are wider. Thanks anon, that definitely throws off the rest of the proportions since my shoulders will be wider from that. Looking at the last fig, the oval is literally the inverse of the wideness in your ref.
>>8004723
>>8004723>>8005509ntaI just started drawing, and I'm struggling a lot with Hampton's boxes and cylinders. I just want to draw bodies, but it feels like I'm studying to be an industrial designer. I only chose him because he draws digitally. Is Huston better for a complete beginner?Unrelated, but I really like your figures. Do you upload your work somewhere? I'd really love to see them with color and cel shading.
Women, amirite?Really though, first time picking a pencil in a decade and breasts really are fascinating.Men I can draw, but I need to grind on my breast physics. If only my gf isnt flat so I can use her as reference...
>>8005879I wouldn’t say Huston is better for a complete beg, it just depends on your goals. Do you want to draw from imagination? Do you want to know how to accurately construct the body? Hampton is for you.Do you want to draw figures from life/reference? Do you want to have an idea of what’s most important when studying humans? Then Huston is for youIt’s about identifying what your overall goal as an artist is and finding the teacher that fits that goal the best.
>>8003864see the body as a mash-up of different forms, there are different book which show you simplified forms of the specific body-parts; also look at the ref before drawing it and think where specific body-parts are facing. Feel the form. Here a timelaps, did it in about 15-20 min. i believe.
>>8006045>feel the formis this all the /fig/savants are able to saywhat's the point of your clip btw, you don't even construct the fig as part of your process, just draw the finished piece from the head down
>>8005509your drawings are shit from a butt
>>8006126>>feel the form>is this all the /fig/savants are able to say"feeling the form" is shorthand for building an intuitive sense of a how a 3d shape can be depicted on a 2d surface, and can only be achieved with practicing perspective and anatomy at large volumes, trying to do harder and harder things until it clicks. someone who doesn't understand what it means to "feel the form" is NGMI
>>8006214Don’t be negative
>>8006214>same anon who killed /portrait/no surprises here
>>8006273probably trying to bait to get crits
>>8006276oh i believe very strongly that those drawings are bad. 99% of the people here are clearly putting in some kind of effort, but not that guy. it's the same garbage for years now. and it's so pornographically empty. it's not even good, for porn. it's just a reflection of priorities and values or a lack thereof. if you're going to be a pervert, at least be a good one. christ
>>8006312i don't care for his coomslop but he's got decent skills. focus on your own art, that face is horrid.
>>8005879Thank you, im glad you enjoy them. imo, learn from every single teacher, take what you like, leave what you don't. Hampton was one of the first artbooks I read and it was very helpful, but I agree with you if you are talking about his videos. They feel so rigid and his teachings are not very nimble, especially if you are watching any of his proko videos which are made in a clickbait style quickly digestible format. Steve Huston is my favorite personally, his teaching style is very extended and thorough with lots of demos and examples. Some people also dislike Steve Huston's teaching style because of this too. Also, I don't post anywhere else but here
>>8006244both me and the guy you did the timelapse for understand that you must draw volumetric shapes. you could've also told him to just draw better figs. it would've been equally helpful I think
Some timed gestures
Are timed figure drawings a good way to ease into it as an absolute beg? I was thinking something like 2 minutes and getting stuff off posemaniacs or whatever, simply because forcing each one to only take 2 minutes would increase the volume I end up drawing.
>>8006506>2 minutesit is a memeyou really want to only stick to 30sec to a min
>>8006601a min or even less sounds brutal but I'll go for it, more drawing can't be bad
>>8006506it's a mixture of a lot of things that feed into each other. the general schedule of most figure drawing studios i've been to is poses that go up in times, ie10 poses 1 minute each, 5 poses 5 minutes each, 3 poses 10 minutes each, etc. there was one session i attended that was 30m of 1 minute poses and 30m of 2 minute poses and it was grueling. the biggest benefits you'll get from volume is increasing the speed at which you make decisions and your comfort with your implement, but you'll have to add other goals long term.
>>8006601>you really want to only stick to 30sec to a minWeird fucking take.
>>8006601>>8006808even 10 min is stupid. no one wants to see your low effort doodles
>>8006655A minute goes by fast, who'd have thought (ignore the 3 in the top left those are from a different thing)
>>8006506For an absolute beg?Don't focus on gestures much. Better get construction and perspective right first.Also all the timings are good, they work for different purposes.
>>8006370(not the video poster, just chiming in here)you just gotta put in the hours until you can develop 1) confidence/decisiveness when drawing 3d shapes and 2) an extensive visual library of figures and parts of figures in your mind so that you can draw from this when drawing something you've never seen before.
>>8006356
>>8007362What in the world is that right shoulder doing?
>>8007770crack
>>8006126>what's the point of your clip btwplease, shut up
>>8004064>>8006045Thank you.>>8006045>think where specific body-parts are facingI will try to think about that. I don't know how you can pull off a drawing like that.
>>8007272
>>8008099
>>7991477sorry for the late reply. i am just doing some mindless bod figures at the moment, i am kind of distracted so this is what im doing
>>8009245
not a whole lot
it's been a while since I drew figures
>>8009939
>>8010804These are lovely.
>>8010804Dude, that brush is straight up sexy. I fucking love your drawings, and I love to sketch digitally using pencil-like brushes as well. Care to share which it is?
>>8010864Thank you, im glad you enjoy them>>8011168Thank you, its a photoshop pencil brush from Lane's Brush Pack with pen tilt shape dynamics enabled
>>8013232Why is her butt shaped like that instead of being round?
haven`t drawn anything in 3 months, i have a lot to catch up to
>>8013349Yeah I gotta watch that.
