If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your WorkHOW TO GIVE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM:>Avoid simply saying :>"this is too long"> "this looks bad">dismissing discussion with resources "needs more loomis etc."Instead try to politely and honestly explain the issue you are seeing in detail.Offer a visual explanation such as a redline or paint over in addition to said resource links.>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7963959
Just draw.
>>7967167another one
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way is an absolute slog. Very okay for a beginner but it is very repetitive and dry as heck. I am almost done with it and I wanted to move on to Michael hampton and Vilppu then Bridgman soo baddd.
So why didn't anyone get pinned?
>>7967410Because people got too butthurt about it when they didn't it into a 16+ picture collage and didn't understand how making an appealing thumbnail means you can't get literally every faggot's post . They also complained about how only the circle jerk horny drawings were picked despite them being the most appealing and vast majority of the others also drawing the same thing but poorly. People even got redlines and advice too and still complained because it was somebody else and not them. Anon made the OP probably to avoid the same retardation. The chads who made the start of that thread genuinely great are probably long gone by now.
>>7967413When they didn't make it into*Anyways, I'm going to go draw now. Bye.
Okay here are some notable posts from the other thread, pt.1:>>7964025>>7964063>>7964125>>7964164>>7964383>>7964703>>7964720>>7964722
pt.2>>7965077>>7965189>>7965245>>7965266>>7965339>>7965524>>7966218>>7966566
>>7967423it feels like you're drawing what you think stones look like instead of looking at actual stones
pt.3 gratz everyone, here's your gold stars.>>7966610>>7966708>>7966800>>7966990>>7967012>>7967167>>7966866Remember, internet validation if fleeting. The work and hustle of the grind is a testament to your character. Build your kingdoms. Rule them well.
>>7967417.
>>7967427yeah i didnt use references
I set my canvas to 800x600 to achieve the early Windows visual novel type look but every brush begins to look like a pixel and hard to use.
lineless practice
>>7967410The collage is cool but it makes it a lot slower to create the new thread.If someone makes the collage then cool, but I don’t think there should be an expectation that every new thread has one.
>>7967413Literally no one ever complains about the collage you gigantic FAGGOT. Thanks for ruining the general you retard.
>>7967439you did a nice job with the material rendering, the forms of the body however needs to be defined as they face away from us otherwise it causes this flattening effect. All that lines are, are visual cues for our brain to imagine depth. If you remove lines without replacing them visual cues, it ends up looking like a sticker, not an object within an environment
>>7967384Requesting for red line. Are the legs too short or too long? Or do I have bigger problems than legs?
>>7967443...you clearly didn't see the start of last thread then
>>7967188
>>7967443you'll live
>>7967428>>7967421>>7967417>not one (you)
Reposting my sketch for new thread, thanks anons for the help yesterday!
dogshit thumbnail and this thread deserves it for being crybabies, spot on OP
>>7967467her left arm attaches to the shoulder too low.
>>7967465which one was yours? ill give you a you and a super special glaze surprise
>>everyoneif you drew you're amazing if you didn't you're ass
A graphic design masterclass. Fuck it up, OP.
>>7967408I hate to break it to you but 90% of learning art is purely problem solving and memory. It's only 10% Learnt knowledge.One of the main reasons of why anime artists are so good is that they practice the things that they LIKE with a lot of consistency and putting in the effort to memorize it. If you're drawing things that you don't like but practice it with consistentcy and memorizing. Then it will not be as effective as drawing with things that you like. It can work but is so much more inferior than just normally doing something you like.You'll be certainly consistent however, you will tend to not remember it fully as it doesn't fully captures your passion and interest.
Too tired to finish this today, the bow is placeholder
>>7967478Awesome, is this an original design? The mecha legs are super cool
>>7967478booooring perspective
>>7967491nta Can't exactly go ham on perspective if the design if the character is at the forefront I'd argue. I'm sure someone else out there Who Draws could beg to doffer though. I don't even like the concept of cool robot + boring anime girl glued onto it. I just think the pose of choice makes sense with the camera angle.
>>7967459Hah I was thinkin the same thing, you're dirty
>>7967417>>7967421>>7967428Dude I'm notable too SCREW YOU
cooked up some fresh poop from a butt if anyone is hungry
>>7967500Ah I can smell what you're cooking.
>>7965765tried to relax pose a bit
sketches and an attempt at painting
>>7967452Sorry anon My bad, I forgot about the request rule. I understand why is enforced tho, in /aco/ the "draw" threads get wrecked by the requests posts, it's really a problem. But I suppose that "written requests" should be okay. Here's your scuba diver, diving too deep. Just for this time I'm posting the full image, we're supposed to resize our pics here>>7967189>How long?Those comic strips take 4 hours a page at "full speed". These other "pink scribbles", maybe 45 minutes to 2 hours> Not sure if I follow you, when you say you have more trouble making a dynamic pose with a smaller sized bodyA smaller body type gives me "less material" to work with when doing nsfw, I want poses and situation to be "exuberant" I need "excessive dimensions" to do the things I like>you can always upload the images to another photo host like CatboxYeah I know but my only rule here is that I won't ever use ANY external site. I only trust this site. I don't follow links to other sites. I ain't got the time either. This board is all I need for "fun time". Reaching for more is stepping out of the "fun time" and entering into the "unwanted commitment" territory. I'm too lazy and spoiled for that> I am assuming based on what you said, you do notDon't get me wrong, I LOVE detailed stories and situations, problem is, I'll do what I want to do with it lol, and that can be rude if the person expects to see exactly what they described> How long have you been drawing for, did you take art courses in school?I've never went to art school, that was a mistake. If you have the talent go to school and build good memories, I was raised to be a cynical person, so I always draw but as a mockery of it. I guess I've "drawing" for "30 years" but again, just in the last 5 years or so I found this little place to draw almost every day for fun. I don't like social platforms, I'm more of a consumer than a creatorI hope you liked it my underwater scribble it was fun! I may do a follow up.. he he
I tried
>>7967524Intriguing perspective and composition, although I would like to see her toes instead of cropping them like that, and would like to see more color.
some composition breakdownim gonna spend some time on compositionmaxxing from now on
>>7967520>he got requestbaited by the scubaschizosaw that spammer a lot when I drawfagged on /v/ and /co/
>>7967515im wawing it oooooo im wawing
>>7967524use a perspective grid / vanishing pointsyou only need to put 2 cilinders and a box in perspective to solve all your problems... i guess you have to know about perspective (just ask chatgpt)
>>7967515what brush do you use? how dynamic is the size by pressure controller?
>>7967526>I would like to see her toesBased.
>>7967520don't reward that spammer with requests please
common peril L
If you had to guess the races of the people that had posted the drawings so far, how many will you get right?
>>7967563I assume the majority of you are from South America, and a very small percentage or from SEA countries. I just know. I am deeply in tune with both groups.
>>7967556>>7967539>>7967558In this case, I fear more for scubafag-anon, that Perilfag is evil incarnated.
>>7967566>the majority of you are from South America, and a very small percentage or from SEA countries
>>7967567>that Perilfag is evil incarnated.How so? They draw what they like. Ladies in peril.
>>7967574That's also in line with the majority of artists I've bought commissions from. I don't mind them.
>>7967566Privilege engenders low effort laziness.
>>7967547>how dynamic is the size by pressure controller?Not much so i just overlap some lines
>>7967384wip trying to gpen
>>7967465Love yourself and stop waiting for others to love you first
>>7967589This is very true.
>>7967599Come on buddy, you can't be that purposely naive. Most Americans, don't actually know, in any capacity, what it means to work hard. I'd say about 90% of working class Americans don't. It's why when Ching ling that comes from a culture full of tiger moms demanding hard work of their kids from very young ages gets compared to us, people call it talent because they are literally blind to the reality of a typical chink. They get put to shame real quick though when they're given equal workloads and ching ling manages just fine while the American demands, screams even, about muh money and muh workers rights. If you want the cold hard and brutal truth, most of us are just fucking disgustingly lazy. Sorry. Not sorry. Talent exists, but unfortunately for most of us, that was never part of the equation, most of us just want the rewards without the work. Very typical of faggots that never had to work like their lives depended on it.
>>7967605Nah most ching lings are just products of being overworked and don't know how to advocate for themselves. However, I do agree, like 110% of people on this board would tap out on their 1st week of working in the industry. I don't think people know how fucking brutal it is if you aren't at some cushy indie studio and while it isn't healthy to go to such extremes, they could all use a little more fire under their bellies rather than dismissing any progress as talent.
>>7967491Retard.
>>7967518Flats and a opacity brush? What %?
>>7967612stay mad
>>7967613i know nothing about painting so this was really all over the place. i remember using 40% opacity a lot. for the blue hues i went as low as 20%. if you have any tutorials or ressources to recommend id be glad to take a look at them.
>>7967618I only use solid colors to paint lol. I gave up on painting with opacity or any other method. I was just curiously asking. As a sketch it looks fine but idk if you were trying to do just hatching or painting the sides. You could aim for more interesting shapes cause it looks like you are kinda lost a little bit from the stroke economy. So I aim for interesting shapes.You're probably better off looking at other artists on how they render and studying them desu. That's how I learn. It just depends if you want a soft look or not etc. Dont be afraid to use solid blacks, because blacks make the other colors/values pop out more.I mean you are already in the top 20% on this board when it comes to panting.
continuing from last thread
i need to fuck deersis
>>7967012>I don't like how the color overlaps whenever I press harder or softer, or make a new stroke, your shadows don't do thatYou got a couple options to avoid it or minimize it. Options for avoiding are to do it on a layer beneath your line work. You can use a multiply layer or paint in the shadows with opaque colors. for the multiply you can do below or above the lines if they're black or the shading is the same color as the line art. You could also make shadow shapes with the lasso tool and then fill them in that way. if you hold shift while the lasso is selected, you can add to your selection. Gives you a lot of control, but a bit difficult to visualize when the shadow shapes aren't there till you fill them in.As for the minimizing overlap, less strokes help. The reason I had to paint over yours is because I didn't have the lines on a separate layer. So I painted over top and where there was overlap, I painted over it and between your lines. I painted it the way I did the spheres on the left. Painting opaquely and transparently over line art like this really only works in monochrome, so I do recommend painting under the linework if not using a multiply, unless you want something painterly. I added a dot above the spheres and in-between the shadow layer to show what I mean from opaque and transparent. I erased the edges away from the transparency. >what does that mean. should I pick the same shadow color as the one I used for lineart? or a lighter one, by how much? or maybe I should lower the opacity of the layer?It just means that the shadow color (that we're adding above the base value) needs to be darker than its respective base value. You should have seen this here in the Marco Bucci video -> https://youtu.be/DQ5QF0q4QqQ?si=8g2XOOsFTcT5gMmV&t=168. The denim is darker than the tank top, so it needs a darker shadow. Same goes for skin that is tanned vs not tanned. Hair is darker than the denim, so it should have a darker shadow.
>>7967563south america and USA i think are the majority
cont.>>7967628As for how dark you can go, as dark as you want. You really just need enough contrast so that you can fit other modelling factors. In this case, your light values need to move along your color wheel toward the darkest blue, which is your line art, by about 50-75%.Keep in mind that before you get good at anything, you get worse.
>>7967384Me and my friend are making remake of Walten Files 4 and we came here to asked which one of these NSTC-RS presets is the most 70s>https://github.com/ntsc-rs/ntsc-rs/issues/120>https://zamusteen.itch.io/zamus-nstc-rs
I am an adult man with all the free time in the world and can still make nothing of value. I can't even practice drawing because I know I'm doing it wrong.Eugenics is real and I'm glad it's coming
>>7967649Damn, I wish I had more time outside of evenings and weekends.
>>7967652I wish I had talent and an above 100IQ brain. I'm basically filtered out from doing anything creative or worthwhile with my life.
>>7967653How do you have so much free time? Are you on welfare?
>>7967662I'm here to get drawing advice, not spill my life situation.
>>7967663You should probably stop making complaint posts about your life situation then.
>>7967649Yeah i'm in the same situation, honestly you just gotta get in the habit to draw, I haven't seen your art, but it sounds like you're in the part in the dunning kruger curve where it craters and you're aware of how much you're unaware, no other ways around except just locking down and doing studies or something to figure it out.
>>7967662If you can draw fast then you can save a ton of time
>>7967663My advice, just.... Draw :) just draw and post it in the thread and ask for a crit.
golems ITT would do anything except just sit down and draw, and then has the audacity to complain about being permabeg
>>7967649LOL!!!!! Just draw nigga. I been a lazy artist but I still reached /int/ by drawing once a month. Btw I started late too hehehehe.
I'm in uni with no summer job so I have a whole break to get good at drawing :)
>>7967520>in /aco/ the "draw" threads get wrecked by the requests posts, it's really a problem.Is there any particular reason why you feel this way about that drawthread? They are basically all like that. Drawthread generals, for the time they have been around, have nearly always been heavy with requests. If you post on /aco/ I've not recognized you there. >Just for this time I'm posting the full image, we're supposed to resize our pics hereI do appreciate that you posted it like that. I had no idea resizing was a rule here. I often feel it has negative effects on the linework quality, depending how it's done.>These other "pink scribbles", maybe 45 minutes to 2 hoursFor what you are able to produce in that time, they look good. >when doing nsfw, I want poses and situation to be "exuberant" I need "excessive dimensions" to do the things I likeI see. I sort of figured that, based on what I've seen of your works thus far.>I won't ever use ANY external site. I only trust this site. Fair. I'm happy you were willing to at least click on the link I provided. I suppose if you end up drawing something anthro where you want to show lewds, you could try /trash/ or /b/, though you seem steadfast on only sticking to a few select boards. Curse that old rule.>I LOVE detailed stories and situations, problem is, I'll do what I want to do with it lol, and that can be rude if the person expects to see exactly what they describedThat can go either way though. Sometimes a detailed idea can be given, and an artist can take it to a place the req anon didn't think possible, and it's a positive. That can be cool.>I've never went to art school, that was a mistake.Are you sure? You've done well for someone who I presume was self taught.>I was raised to be a cynical person, so I always draw but as a mockery of it. Is this why you post in this thread? You don't seem to think highly of your work, despite showing some very nice body figures and doodles.
>>7967520(ran out of characters)>I hope you liked it my underwater scribble it was fun!I’m glad you enjoyed yourself, thank you for drawing it, and double thank you for your very quick turn around time, willingness to go anthro (I’m guessing cat, or perhaps it’s a mink?) and be closer to a body type I prefer, and posting a good sized .png. Clever file name to boot.Even before I clicked on it, I could tell from the thumbnail, you had made a quality image.The background is simple but effective, using vague shapes to show things like the boats. Many subtle details drawn to get across the atmosphere – sunlight rays, bubbles, the thin twistyness of the seaweed, the buoyancy of the hair and tail, etc.. The reflection on the eye mask that gives it a bit of a 3d looking shape is nice, as are the long fins. It’s overall nicely composed and features a lot of characteristics I notice and like.>I may do a follow up.. he heI’ll leave that up to you (if do, a full sized png would ideal), but thanks for drawing what you did. Is there something I can draw for you in return? I’m lower then /beg/, so if you like extra crappy, MS Paint, 1 character standing on a white background, I’m your man.
thread challenge choose your favorite frame
>>7967535You draw in a tub? Where you rick the paper falling into the water? I guess some men like to live dangerously.
>>7967676Which one is kaicenat, which one is ishowspeed and which one is Mr beast? I don't keep up with the kiddos these days
>>7967670NTA but how late?
>>796768316
>>7967390Just how? I have no talent.
>>7967685Fuck you. 16 is not late. 35 and over is late.
>>7967687People always piss and moan about talent. It's not about talent, it's about how your brain works and how easy or hard it is for you to learn something. Some people have better brains for drawing than others, that is why some excel and some flounder. I don't have the right brain plus massive self confidence issues. No matter what I do, I'm not getting anywhere. I don't wish for talent, I wish for a different brain and a new attitude.
>>7967622alright, i thought it may be a faux-pas to use opacity so im glad lol. the solid black thing is interesting, i swear i heard the opposite once, that you should avoid using it. i guess you should probably be picky about when to use it.
>>7967669Seriously. Just make your space comfy, put on some tunes, and get to work. I can sit there all day and forget to eat once I get in the zone.
>>7967690Talent is trainable, anyways.
>>7967687Just by
Stopsayingtalent
>>7967701crab meme
Talent
>>7967706Talent is a pursued interest. Anything that you're willing to practice, you can do". >bob "motherfucking lets paint some trees" rossHe believed that anyone could master painting through dedication and technique, rather than relying on innate, magical artistic gifts.
>>7967701It's not that you're "supposed to".You can test what works best for you by yourself, whenever you want. Pay attention to how you feel and perform with and without music.
Can you draw a fully clothed figure from imagination without looking at reference for any part of the anatomy or outfit?I personally always need a reference for the clothes and arm anatomy at least
>>7967719If you're good, then yes.
>>7967719If you're talented, you can see clothes on a naked model and you can undress the clothed models. Talent is the magic ticket to being great, loved, and happy in life.
>>7967719only if I drew the character many times
currently trying to make an animation for a fan character idea I have for Deadlock. The storyboard is about 40% done now and I have no idea what I'm doing
No thread challenge?
Just draw
>>7967745How?
I can’t draw because I keep having to go to the bathroom why is there so much shit in my ass?
>>7967743Gross.
I've seen some people shitting on drawabox because the exercises are boring and will turn people off but I'm pretty sure if someone came up to you and said that they couldn't draw boxes because of their adhd or whatever you'd call them a loser and tell them they're not gonna make it unless they got their shit together.
>>7967649
>>7967743awooga mamacita
For those here who finish illustrations, how long is each step of your process for your average piece? How many times do you redraw a sketch typically, if at all? How much time do you spend planning before you start a piece? I’m trying to work on my workflow.
>>7967683That other anon is not me, I started at 27, but that was 3 years ago. Before then, I would probably draw maybe once or twice a year and they would just be random meme level edits of existing memes. And I never really drew as a kid besides stickmen sometimes. At 27 I started being a little more contestant and taking art seriously, and started drawing most of the year, even if there are breaks in between, it would be at least once a month. I tend to stare at better artists work for a long time and watch a lot of art videos during that time so my art knowledge has always been way higher than my skill but now at im the level where I am finally feeling comfortable, and when I struggle, I just go back to the basic art rules to help me guide myself.Im still pretty lazy at drawing, and take huge breaks, but yeah I could see myself leveling up quite a lot this year if I manage to draw a lot more.> the solid black thing is interesting, i swear i heard the opposite once, that you should avoid using itUhhh I never heard of this, I mean why wouldnt you use the darkest value? It depends on the style of rendering though. But value changes (like you see in vehicles/military stuff) is not uncommon, but they have angular surfaces so it could easily change the value of the side to pretty dark and well we show form with value (at least its easier to show form with it).
>>7967769Talented Rat
>>7967745What exactly was the joke with this? Anon did this 1000 times but still didn't know how to apply it?>>7967749Keek
Should I do drawabox as a digital pre/beg/?My ultimate goal is to simply draw niche porn for myself (as is many a case I’m guessing). Should I just skip right to anatomy/copying other works?
>>7967779Draw a box is a mostly technical oriented hting to get started with, personally I started art by tracing then doing studying from various artists I liked, then actually drawing my own shit
>>7967771talent is cope(this is just one stack of many btw)
>>7967784Talent is realThis is one of 300+https://youtu.be/TbY-_Qi7L3g
>>7967784Pawell did a hundred more times and he was still permabeg becaue he had negative talent.>>7967477>>7967687>>7967690>It isnt about talent>Describes talent.I wish I could be so gifted I could completely ignore how bad it can get.
>>7967790>>7967795
>>7967628>>7967630thnaks king, this is helpful. you've been very patient with meI gave this shadows thing another go, it turned out somewhat better. what I did was make two 30% opacity layers above the lineart, one for shadows, one for highlighs and the so-called half-tones. used a hard round with to pressure opacity. while this approach gave me results, I think it only did so because I'm working with a grayscale basically. it'd fall apart if I introduced color into the mixcan't 'feel the form' fully yet, most of the time I went with my gut, so in some parts I might have shadows where there shouldn't be any, some places I might've left lit where it should've been the opposite. I don't like it when I'm forced to 'feel it out'like, I added a lighter value on the left side of her shirt and left leg, where it should be in shadow, because it seemed to look good, but I don't know why it's there. it's insane how much brainpower one must have to keep all those variables in mind, and I'm only doing the very bacics>>7967518>>7967693love how this looks, you're a natural>>7967784fake news, 'just draw' is crabspeak
>>7967795you can get the most talented man, but if he has shit material to learn from he's gonna be shit
>>7967799>>7967797Just look at this talentless russnigger who has no concept of form or perspective even after decades of drawing.
>>7967636Pls fuckin respond I can't take it anymore
>>7967798I make money selling art in person and I'm worse than some of the people you've mentioned lol
what's the easiest guide on how to simplify bodies I can read ?
meh
>>7967798Don’t know any of these people except nihu and raxav.
>>7967798Yeah you may not know this, but this thread has a lot of beginners in it. I wonder why that is
I just drawed and now I’m a stagnated permaprebeg I would kill myself but I can’t imagine how that’s because of the stage 4 aphantasia
>>7967804I'm not downloading a zip file from github just to give you feedback
working on a background for somethingstruggling a bit with conserving detail going back into the horizon(and maybe some suggestions for color changes wouldn't hurt too, this feels a little drab when i look at it on my phone)
>>7967674Thank you so much for the feed back anon! I made a little story to wrap up that picture for you. As you can see I simplify the figures and designs to the MAX to make it doable. It's the only way to finish a "little" project like this in a day. I prefer the horizontal format of my other comic strips, that's much faster, tho I admit the art gets more crappier. This vertical format takes a little more time.>Is there any particular reason why you feel this way about that drawthread? They are basically all like thatYeah I know, I don't post in /aco/ or /co/ I post only here because I like to share stuff with other artists. I understand how the "request" system works in those boards, "draw thread" gets flooded with ref collages requests, in this board though, we need those image slots for original work, artists need the space for their work, that's why "ref collage requests" are not allowed. Your ref was awesome, you putted much effort in it.> Is this why you post in this thread? You don't seem to think highly of your work, despite showing some very nice body figures and doodlesYou may have synthesized in one sentence my whole "artistic mal-functional situation". I don't want to be taken seriously because then I would have to stop doing this fun shitposting. This is fun and self-indulging, if I start doing exclusively pretty stuff and "high-art" then I will have to stop doing this weird shitThank you so much for your kind words! You don't have to do nothing for me, actually your lengthy feedback is truly what I really want when I do these pieces. I like to "collect" opinions, thoughts, ideas and fantasies from random anons here, I love that. Best reading material I can have! lolI'll finish this little "comic" today surely. Thanks again!>>7967539>>7967556Anyone who give me feedback or any kind of interaction will have my total attention, I'm here to have fun.>>7965511I love your vehicles! Do a fold-able bike!>>7967395I love this scene compositions!
>>7967811ANSWER ME AND HELP
>>7967811hide channel - easy croquis on youtube
>>7967795I think I am mentioned here but I am not transgender and I think I am improving, though slowly. I think you are maybe just a sad nodraw crab
The first 7 years were a wash, but I feel like year 8 is really going to be my year
>>7967384i finally finished the main deck: deck 4, of my 7-deck ship. i've also finished decks 1 and 7. deck 6 only has one room left, and deck 3 is halfway done.i've been working on this piece for 18 days now.
>>7967838I started drawing when I was 13 and the first 8 years were unironically a wash
>>7967839weaponized autism
>>7967840If you started at 13 you should be a pro now.I saw the art of some guy who started drawing at 10 and guy had legit impressive skills for only being 20. I was jelly.
>>7967839The tip of that ship looks like a....a....
>>7967701There's such a thing as ambient music.
>>7967743Where's her penis?
>>7967701Pedantic pseud bullshit. People who try to hyperoptimize their growth are always the first to fail. Do what's comfortable and fun always.
> Why yes I am autistic how did you know?
>>7967836Meant for >>7967798
>>7967701The only time music distracts me is when it's really good and so I keep rewinding to my favorite part of the song over and over because I'm autistic.
>>7967851That's cool.
>>7967795Because if you teach someone math wrong, they arnt going to discover calculus. The saying "just draw" is correct, but incomplete, what it really should say is "just draw correctly". And yes, there are fixed rules when it comes to drawing like perspective and values. Its a solved problem. So therefore, there really isnt any "talent" in art. There's the right way, and the wrong way.
>>7967869I don't think you do it the way I do it lol. There's usually like a 15-20 second part of a song that's my favorite and I will just rewind it over and over. And if my wife is there I'll say "hey listen this is my favorite part" and she rolls her eyes like "oh fuck this motherfucker not again" and I play it a second time for her because I don't think she was really listening the first time.ANYWAYS. The point is that the impulse distracts me when I'm in a flow state.
>>7967515apparently didnt get posted, the neck doesnt match the ribcage
I drew this out (on the right) last night, then realized the legs were way too short and tried redrawing them this morning. Do they look correct now? They felt a bit thin.
>>7967825You lose information and clarity (detail) on object the further they are away, and you're doing you're clouds wrong. Clouds are most of the time, above you, and if they arnt rain clouds, they have flat bottoms and your looking up to them.
>>7967874I think it look better.
>>7967515Never show the top of the breasts and the bottom of the ass in the same pose. Anatomically impossible and looks insanely retarded.
>>796784213 vs 15/16 vs 22
>>7967885it's over
>>7967885Bro has been drawing like Paige for 9 years
>>7967885Kanbaru?!
>feel like even though my art is decent (mid beg probably), my art isnt memorable, so people will see it and compliment it then immediately forget it, but artists who are worse than me feel a lot more memorable and soulfulhow do i fix this
>>7967898Almost everyone here is an evil rat. Appealing to them is not worth it.
>>7967898>>7967900Chunlinigger, Torulenigger and Icantdravv are the most vantablack nigger hell niggers imaginable.
>>7967869>I do that and I'm not autistic>not everything is autismAutists are incapable of realizing that 90% of their life's experiences are common happenings for the average person. They have main character syndrome so even they believe they fart different from the majority of "nEuRaLtYpIcAl pEoPlE".
>>7967898take a look at composition booksframed ink is a popular one, vision by hans bacher is pretty good, and so is creative illustration by loomis
>>7967902Pyw? Been so annoying this thread. Are you storm king?
>>7967909>storm kingqrd?
>>7967013another (another)long head
>>7967910The usual nodraw retard crying about talent.
>>7967912Where did you learn his name though? Does he have a blog that I can laugh at and mock?
>>7967752
>>7966997sketched out the right half, lookin promising. didn't know how to describe shoulders/scapula from this angle, paritally hid with a pillow, will hide more with clothing. unsure if her head is attached correctly>>7967828wholesome comic for a change, I rike it!
>>7967904You do this? >>7967871
>>7967915He posted his discord here a while ago after a talent tirade. He said he was here as recent as last month which is why I assume this talentfag is also him.
>>7967835https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcb4ghm__Zcthis one? it's very hard to keep up with the Japanese auto translate. How do non-Japanese native speakers watch this and learn?
>>7967941and prayers.
last painting for today i swear. tested a combined paint/ ink technique
>>7967938there's eng audiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Ej9EIlfoc
>>7967813is this for practice for an actual asset?
>>7967941Really clean, looks like it's from a real cartoon. You're no /beg/
>>7967949Both. I am learning while also making game. But also, the word learn is a bit of a stretch here as I'm kinda winging it with the airbrush tool. I'm working through Scott Robertson's books though and hope to eventually learn BGs properly.
>>7967754>>7967779drawabox is just a plagiarized reddit version of Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching course. You can find the lectures on yt or the book version, Dynamic Bible. I don't think it's a mistake to be a sharpiecel, but you owe it to yourself to learn from someone who can actually draw, unlike that faggot hack uncomfortable>>7967737Really cool. Seems like you're doing a fine job making it up as you go>>7967792>>7967784kino>>7967798Nihu mogs but he also kinda fell off. I know you don't want to hear it but he just repeatedly draws his OC instead of the cute pokesluts that gave him his break. Sad to see
>>7967885It's grim.
>>7967779>niche pornSuch as?
ALL I DRAW IS FLAT AND SHIT PLEASE HELP!!
>>7967889>>7967894>>7967962I'm happy with the progress I've made :)
>>7967977Great, you'll be a fantastic loli artist.
>>7967828>I simplify the figures and designs to the MAX to make it doable. It's the only way to finish a "little" project like this in a day.Thank you, that's very nice of you. They are simpler drawings, but they are effective in telling the story. I take it you like drawing males with some muscle? That fine touch of the brush change to represent what's above the water and what's viewed below it is a nice detail. >that's why "ref collage requests" are not allowed. Your ref was awesome, you putted much effort in it.I see. I did have the foresight to link it beforehand, but it still was an issue, even past the bump limit (whether those above saw it naturally or it was pointed out to them, who knows). I try my best with good refs to not waste the artists time too much, to make the idea clear to save them some of the hassle of searching for refs. Some, like you, like the presentation, as it helps get the idea across. Others do not like it because it's like hitting a wall of autism (and that's fair, everyone is different).>if I start doing exclusively pretty stuff and "high-art" then I will have to stop doing this weird shitI will assume pretty stuff/high art reads as "art for the masses", basically stuff that is more acceptable on a wider scale, vs stuff that you share in these threads.>You don't have to do nothing for me, actually your lengthy feedback is truly what I really want when I do these pieces. I like to "collect" opinions, thoughts, ideas and fantasies from random anons here, I love that. Best reading material I can have! lolI'm glad I could scratch that itch in that particular fashion. I tend to give wordy feedback as it often feels disingenuous to throw out just a "thanks" when I know it takes a fair bit of time for an artist to draw something. Least I could do for the time they put into it, especially if they checked off certain boxes regarding thing I like.
>>7967898Draw niche fetishes.
>>7967998Nice hands. Do they have jobs?
Challenge!
>>7968004What do you consider a good reference?
>spend all day at work>come home to a 2 and a half hour Chinese art lecture I have to watch about anatomyi think this is killing my desire to do art but i know it's going to improve my skill so i have to stick through it
>>7968009>a 2 and a half hour Chinese art lecture I have to watch about anatomysays who
>>7967898idk what your art looks like or what you think "mid beg" is, but mid beg is not "decent".Non-artists thinking your work is decent is basically the definition of /int/ (decent in the sense of "hey I like that" rather than "decent for someone who's learning how to draw I guess")
>>7968009You probably won't retain much by just marathoning a 2.5 hour video. Pause while you're watching it to copy the drawings and diagrams. Feel free to split it over multiple days
>>7968013decent is very broad and depends on the context.
>>7968007NTA, but I think the lighting on that one sucks balls and the pose is offensively boring unless your main artistic goal at the moment is learning to render thighs and even then there's probably better refs for that.Here's an example of one I personally consider very good and at the same time challenging, I was struggling with it last week in /fig/, have fun figuring out whatever the heck's going on with her ribcage if you want to try it.
>>7968022It's just pectus excavatum. A pretty severe case. You'd have to study her in other poses to understand the form because she's like mashing her tit against it.
>>7967986That's a good bird!
Chasing the Colorless painterly artstyle using bottoms1237 time lapse videos on twitter as reference. I kinda wish I knew how to get that blended together and full feeling he gets with his bots.
its my birthday today yipee
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>>7968034>pectus excavatumWell, you learn something new every day. I haven't really gone through the rest of this pose back but I can kind of see it now that you've pointed it out.
Couple of warmup sketches to shit up the thread. Vehicles are so hard, I still cant draw circles to save my life. Tried out shading in a bit of the the sketch with some grey and it somehow elevates the entire thing really quickly; I highly recommend.>>7968041Happy birthday!
>>7967945>paint and inkAre you drawing in mspaint
would studying anatomy help me to learn to draw like this? or is there no real point?
>>7967518yeah, focus on painting for a while.>>7967719I believe you can draw almost anything from imagination through iteration, having some kind of workflow, and not being afraid of failing. Get comfortable with contrapposto and learn the basics of fashion sketching.Have fun, basically.>>7967813>>7967954check this channel the perspective and environment series are the besthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgTCPpAtH9wperspective is just a tool, there are many things that make an illustration great.>>7967759its done when its done, if you have to ask then theres still stuff to do.>>7967898live your life, learn new things, go outside take inspiration from nature, events, play vidya, etc
>>7968080>check this channel the perspective and environment series are the bestTy I will <3
>>7968073Yes, studying anatomy will help you. You need to know where to place the body parts and how they move relative to each other. For example, do you see the subtle bend of the wrists in the right picture? You need to know what kind of movement the wrist makes in relation to the forearm and hand.
>>7968085so i understand how basic-level anatomy knowledge would help, but when i look at anatomy courses they go into detail about all of the muscles over the entire body and i dont really get how learning 90% of it makes sense when it barely applies to anything that isnt realism or semi-realism
>>7968073>>7968088anatomy will help you understand why wada makes these choices, they are not arbitraryand most (artistic) anatomy courses deal only with surface anatomy
Learning anatomy would probably help you immensely. That said, a lot of people who learn to draw the kinds of anime girl pictures you posted seem to have not studied anatomy at all. Some of them even try to sell courses on Udemy, and if you check them out there's no description of fundamentals, it seems they just know the shapes intuitively from brute-force practice and repetition and they can't quite explain how they drew what they drew. Then you look at the comments and all the people who paid for the course are complaining that the teacher didn't explain enough. Literally the "now draw the rest of the owl" joke. Generally though, studying anatomy would probably be the better choice. But a lot of these people didn't do that, and sometimes it shows but people seem to not care if it's rendered well.
Just doing whatever>>7968073All fundies help
>>7968097if you're gonna use the lasso tool at least clean up your lines
>>7968088Think of it this way. You probably learned all the grammar and punctuation rules but about 90% of it does not apply. However, you still know these rules so that you can pull them out of your head when you need to express something in a certain way. I don’t know what your aspirations are but if you want to be a professional artist, you don’t always get to choose what type of work you want. So it is good to be well-equipped with all the anatomy so you can take on the work.
>>7968091IDK if you've done it, but would Tenten help? i was doing his course for the first couple of weeks but then I got to the face lessons and it felt like basically all of it aside from the base facial structure was useless since i have zero interest in drawing semi-realismim not sure if maybe i should just ignore the facial features part of the course and just focus solely on the body-anatomy
>>7968100tenten's work is very stylizedhe's also very good. but might be overwhelming depending on your experience
>>7967470i dont need your pity
>>7968107Probably shouldn’t make pitybait posts then.
>>7968107it not pity it was gonna be an earnest and genuine constructive crit since i feel everyone who tries deserves recognition but realistically you can't do that. ik idealistically internet validation shouldnt matter, but it does sting to put effort into something and not have it be acknowledged. so im sorry if u felt overlooked or invalidated, but my you wouldnt be coming from a place of pity or patronization.
>>7968105ive been understanding it pretty well so far in the first two weeks and i find the course fun/interesting, i guess my biggest turn off is i find his personal style unappealing, maybe it's the rendering or something because the image you posted feels fine to me
thats why mass replying hugboxes are retarded, the 10 people you fake-replied to feel nothing but the one person you skipped will kill themselvesjust be fucking earnest its an anonymous board you don't have to be a vapid normie here
>>7968114it wasnt a mass reply hugbox. lol. i felt everyone who was you'd did something good whether it be technique, effort or appeal. me going out of my way to make sure someone who felt invalidated gets a you is hugboxxy to some degree however. realistically i probably should just not have engaged with u
any anon who actually gets upset over (you)s or the lack of them are retards and should be ignored
>>7967384Today's minute gestureshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuFADMDZZsg
>>7968073Studying anatomy might make you hate this art actually. But it is worth it, yes. Then studying color theory since it doesn't seem like this artist is terribly nuanced about edges, so...Yeah that seems about it. >learn anatomy>learn color theory>bullshit everything elseThis is how I would've drawn the anatomy of the pic (not much different). The more you learn about anatomy, the more "westernized" your art might look, especially if you start becoming obsessed with specific parts of the human anatomy (if that makes sense). For instance, someone might be obsessed with collarbones and start making anime girls with very weirdly bibly accurate collarbones, or god forbid the foot is a very horrible pit to fall down. Surface-level anatomy is how most people function that draw like this though. ymmv, like most advice.
HELP ME PLEASE!!!
>>7968126>Studying anatomy might make you hate this art actuallywhat do you mean?
>>7968097omg that is a cute monkey
>>7968128p-permabegschizo? you still a beg?
>>7968128guy who just yells in caps award
>>7968129The more you learn how anatomy is *supposed* to be, the more you realize that a lot of artists are flubbing it ans bullshitting so hard lol
>>7967544Thanks for the suggestion. I did make it free handedly.
>>7968134Yeah this. It's what I meant to say, but with much less rambling >>7968094
>>7968097Would have sex with this monkey tomboy. Looks like Araragi would too.
>>7968003i made an attempt
>>7968094>literal who on /ic/ shitting on wadaHeh
>>7968143shhhdon't let the dks off their peakit's funnier that way
>>7968131He died just like Pawell.
>>7967922place her shoulders on the pillow and rotate her ribcage so it actually makes sense? that position seems uncomfortable.+ gives you more of an arched back, but you might want to change the camera angle completely
>>7968143I want talking about that particular person. But now that I look at the image, the eye is too big. Very big.
>>7967957>Really cool. Seems like you're doing a fine job making it up as you goThank you pal. I actually wrote a script months ago.If those are your texture practices I think they're cool too. The top right one kinda looks like a crosshatched tunnel in perspective
>>7968138Sorry. My face was glued to my monitor and I missed what you were saying. Though I guess having it reiterated twice could help drive the point home that some of us notice the flaws in professionals, even when we ourselves are not "gods of anatomy" or what have you. I do like how much more thorough your response was though.>>7968143>literal whoIt's a case of the emperor having no clothes on, eh?
Haven't done a side profile in a while, how's it look? Any major anatomical issues?
>>7967885>>7967980you're doing fine and your progress is clear to see, anon, they're just insecure and/or immature. Try adding some lineweight in and it'll be pretty good
>>7968162It's good. How about polishing it up?
>>7968161>>7968157Thanks for the reminder that the median shartist here is a tard pfft
>>7968169I'm sorry, I don't know who Wada is. If he's very well respected or something, that's fine. I just don't like how big the eyes are in that one image.
>>7968162I think ear has to be a bit higher up
>>7967799>I think it only did so because...Trust me when I say this, you can really only begin to understand colour once you've gotten a grip on your grayscale/monochrome paintings. Your completely right about feeling as though it would fall apart if you introduced colour. Values are the foundation beneath colours and below values are shapes. If your shapes suck ass, values don't matter because nobody knows what you're trying to draw. If your value suck ass, colours won't save a painting and actively harm it. Don't worry too much about it, you're doing good.>I added a lighter value on the left side of her shirt and left leg...Yeah, it really easy to move too fast when learning shading. Although, those decisions will make sense the more you study modeling factors. I wouldn't worry about anything beyond just placing the terminator and filling in the shadow with a simple multiply layer until you feel comfortable or have confidence in placing. Feeling the form doesn't really matter here that much. What matters here is the logic of whether the light is hitting the plane or not. It's very binary in this sense, either it's lit or it's not. The reason I stress the terminator is because it is the foundation for all the modeling factors to be built on. After you get the terminator down, only add 1 more modeling factor to the drawing. Until you get a good grasp or understand why it occurs, move onto the next only then. It's like progressive overload for exercising, move along too fast and you will plateau because the muscles and tendons can't adapt at that rate. Needless to say, the more you know in a variety of fundamentals, the more you'll see how they relate to each other.Pic related is mostly just here to highlight how even with the most simple elements of form light, form shadow, and cast shadow in place, the overall impression of the image is set. Adding colour is stone throw away from there.Anyway, glad I helped.
>>7968154redline pwease
>>7967799Also what program do you use? Krita? CSP? Most drawing programs have clipping mask. If you don't know about them, look into them. They make some things easier. Although they can get in the way of when you want to draw directly. If your using CSP, reference layers are pretty neat too, although I don't use them. Effectively the "clipped" or "masked" layer(s) will only be visible based on the shape of the layer below it or the stack. You might already be doing this, but if not, you might find a use for this.
>>7967991Thank you so much anon, I really appreciate your replies! There you have the "complete story" lol. I decided to leave it silent, no dialogue. I really prefer the simpler and faster horizontal format to this one, it took me a whole day to do. (7 hours aprox?). That's too much. I need to finish shit much faster. But it was fun!!!>>7967922>wholesome comic for a change, I rike it!r..r..really??! That's a lot comic from the appealgod! Thank you so much!>>7967439This is fucking great!>>7967456You don't need a "redline", you need a fucking ART AWARD!>>7967596You're amazing, look at those freaking legs... and the feet.. what a marvel>>7967626YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!>>7967693THIS IS THE FUCKING COOLEST SHIT IN THIS WHOLE THREAD! SAVED!>>7967769EXCELLENT!!!>>7967998This figure collages are getting better and better!>>7968049This is VERY nice!!!!
>>7967395one more
practicing some more.
>>7968198how long have you been drawing? your stuff is incredible
>>79681992 years
>>7968208you are not me, but yeah i have been drawing for 2 years (i tend to draw a lot for some weeks and then drop drawing for months so really is probably 6 months)
>>7968210thats incredible work for an on and off span of 2 years or 6 months. good work. i hope to get such a level myself in time.
>>7968208It's not nice to fuck with /begs/ like that.
>>7968211That guy has incredible amounts of talent and is blessed by Slaneesh herself. You arent getting anywhere close to him.>>7968212>>7968210He said 6 months.
>>7968183yeah, I have basic understanding of clipping masks, they've been very helpful with coloring lineart and such. I appreciate that you didn't assume I knew of them though. I struggle with digital tools and it always feels like I'm fighting against them when drawing. used to draw in krita but switched to drawpile
>>7968213It's not nice to fuck with /begs/ like that.
>>7968049Thank you! i like the girl on the bike
>>7968198thats it for today.
if only i started in 2013 instead of 2023...
"Just draw"
>>7968259"Just draw" something else for fuck's sake.What are you getting out of doing this? Why not doodle someone getting hit in the back of the head with a baseball bat and then breaking that down into cubes and cylindars? What's the point of practice if you don't just fucking apply what you're learning to things you like????
>>7968256need more 'becca
>>7967485Yeah it's my own thing>>7967491I do what I can
>wake up>take a shower>realize that I was unconsciously and automatically thinking about drawing the whole timeThis is what making it feels like.It has to be your “shower thought”
>>7968261Only thing you drew today was the air into your lungs
>>7968216That’s not at all unreasonable for 2 years if you have even an average level of talent (most people here have anti-talent so they get nowhere)
>>7968261I either don't know what to draw, or I fail when I try. So I just keep drawing the so-called "fundamentals."
>>7968273If you can so clearly see exactly what you suck at, why aren't you grinding THAT instead? Looking for ways to improve, pointing out what's wrong, working on your god damn line control and confidence? You're wasting your time drawing these fucking boxes. It's like you're exercising your legs and wondering why your arms aren't getting any stronger.>I fail when I tryFail WHAT
It isn't that """talent""" is what's needed to draw better. No.It's the thirst for fucking learning and WANTING to get better. If you're not interested in taking shit apart, what is the point of learning a new hobby?? If you're not looking forwards to improving, what the fuck are you even doing? Expecting this hobby to just feed you dopamine because you're doing it?? This is why artists were shit like grave robbers and inventors back in the day; they wanted to learn more. They were addicted to seeing how things work in order to replicate them on whatever medium of choice they had. That's why when a pack of artists are friends, they all have the same art style. It's because they're exchanging information and tutorials, not drawing boxes and the same exact god damn hat kid over and over again. They're trying new stuff because failing isn't fucking scary due to knowing that eventually you'll get it if you suck down enough tutorials.Come on guys. THINK when you draw. Even if it's a little bit.
>>7968277Dropped my fucking picture
My thoughts after 3 days of drawing (copying anime actually)>even copying is much harder than I expected, everything I drew looks like a shit>hair and clothing folds are a real pain>really feels like I need to learn folds before anatomy>copying from a photo was more interesting than anime>couldn't draw for more than 1 hour, today I want to draw at least 2 hours.I still have fun. But I was really demotivated after googling what people drew when they were starting. I'm just 2-3 times worse.Also what's with some Youtube videos saying that the best way of learning is drawing what you want. How the fuck am I supposed to do it if I can't draw?
>>7968279Because drawing things you actually like keeps you engaged. If you're into huge titties, learning how to draw shapes resembling tits will motivate you more than drawing anal sex between two anorexic men.
>>7968288>anal sex between two anorexic men.*begins salivating involuntarily*
>>7968274>If you can so clearly see exactly what you suck at, why aren't you grinding THAT instead?I don't know where I suck. I just see that the result is shit.>Fail WHATLiterally every idea or attempt of mine to draw.>>7968277>due to knowing that eventually you'll get it2500+ hours of drawing over 6 years. I got nothing for that time, unlike those with talent.
>>7968295>"drawing"Better not be the box guy there.When you look at your drawing, I guarantee you can at least point to one part of the picture and go>This part sucks.Sure, the whole thing sucks. But you CAN point to one thing and say it sucks. So do that. Point to something that sucks. And then go and draw a LOT MORE of that thing that sucks. Suck more. Suck harder. Just stop drawing the fucking boxes and cylinders. If you do improve, it's only going to be at that.Proof that talent isn't needed is the fact that you can walk, read, type, and fucking feed yourself. These are all things you learned to do. Unless you can't, in which case you are beyond help sadly and I am sorry to hear that.
>>7968279Drawing is hard and it takes a lot of practice to get good at it. So keeping it enjoyable by drawing the things you want to draw (even when you suck) is important to keep you motivated in the long term. Set a clear goal and work towards that. Ignore stuff that doesn't help you reach that goal. You learn to draw anime girls by drawing anime girls, don't fall in the the trap of only studying fundamentals.Otherwise you end up like this guy >>7968295 2500+ hours of 'drawing' fundamental studies with nothing to show for it.
>>7968295you trained for an art test that doesn't even exist instead of just drawing what you wanted to actually draw
If you think you are incapable of drawing, try this exercise.>https://www.tumblr.com/prrb/30177790499/shrimp-methodIf you can't do this, give up now.
>>7968308don't let the /beg/s know about the shrimp method, it's too powerful
>>7968308>>7968311my god, you beautiful retards just made me realize something. the way to reech deez keeds deez days is with retarded brainrotted analogies and examples. why are there no brainrot tutorials on youtube? its simply a meta waiting to be exploited... mother of..
>>7968312https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xof9mXDHOZcim not early but i am right on time
>>7968308retarded 'le quirky' tutorial
>>7968312any instructor could make millions just repackaging the bargue method too
>>7968316>failedCongratulations. I am impressed.
>>7968316pearls before swine
>>7968304I CAN'T draw what I want.
>>7968319>>7968321
>>7968331Anon you're supposed to show us the before and after.
>>7968088Anatomy mistakes are like the number one thing that makes an otherwise good anime drawing look like shit. You don't need to memorize every muscle, but studying it extensively will make your work so much better. Plus understanding the different forms in the musculature will make the image look so much more aesthetic. Like the subtle flow in your lines will improve dramatically because you subconsciously understand the muscle bellies and how they deform
>>7968334thanks anon, yeah i guess ill just stick to it, i think the main thing with tenten that was throwing me off was his lighting/rendering and how he does noses, but i guess i can always just ignore those parts
>>7968329Do the shrimp tutorial, Sebastian.
>>7968308>Too much text. Can you post an Youtube short?
Given the decline in 4chan's traffic, how dead drawthread generals are across the site, I am surprised how fast this thread is. Bump limit in 24 hours. This has got to be the fastest general here on /ic/.Has it even slowed down from how it was years ago? Was it faster than this?
>>7967851You should scan it and add stickersWhere has the Jaxtraction guy gone?
>>7968352this thread is always active because of summerfags and low effort shitposting. it's just the "water cooler talk" general but w/ the occasional drawing. "community urinal general"
>>7968352Even though /ic/ traffic as a whole has slowed compared to 2020, this thread itself is about as fast as it always was.Also /ic/ traffic has actually been trending up for the past month or two so that’s nice
>>7968370ic traffic always peaks during summer and winterbreak. to a lesser degree during spring and fall break. u can always tell who the newfags are by their optimism and ignorance of the crab and troll cesspit that is ic
>>7967902>>7968259>>7968273same guy btw
>>7967902What is EVERY nameanons current skill level?
>>7968388that nigger needs to go out, touch grass and paint some landscapes
>>7968003this sucks
>>7968295>2500 hours>hasn't produced a single thing of meritHere's the best advice you're going to get assuming you aren't trolling: quit this hobby and find something else. Sunk cost is a meme, don't ruin your future free time by making another 2500 hours worth of garbage. You will never make it and you've probably calcified some horrible irreversible habits in that 2500 hours.
>>7968158Thanks dude. I didn't know what to do for half of them so they ended up being scribbles
>try copying references to get better bro>get worseit's so over
page 2 of sketches for todaylooks like shit but at least the older guy looks really sexy
>>7968414>get worsethat usually means you're not paying enough attention to your ref
>>7968388thats a shame, it seems we are kindres sould but he hates me
How's the right arm and sleeve looking? I spent a full hour drawing and erasing, it feels like the paper there is a few layers thinner now. I had no idea what I was doing with the sleeve and foreshortening so I took embarrassing selfies and tried copying that.>>7967880Kept it as is because of you anon, thanks.
>>7968427she's been mewing
>feel great desire to draw when im not able to at work>as soon as i get home that desire vanisheshow do i maintain it, or transfer it, so i still want to do it after a 10 hour shift
>>7968446You do it when the feeling arises. (at work) Best pieces have been done during lecture hall
>>7968352>>7968361There's only one or two namefags keeping this thing going.
which is better?
>>7968298>talent>>7968277>>7968270Talent is how easy you can learn and apply something.Futafag mogs everyone here and most have been posting for way more years. Fucker is talented. Are you telling me that guys like Raxav or brownlinefag or the degenerate streetfighterfag or the tomboyfag who cant grasp persepctive who have been drawing for a solid decade just didnt draw as much? Go fuck yourself.>No but you see it isnt talent it is actually [tale]Fuck you nigger animal.
>>7968464you're either them or somebody trying their hardest to demoralize using them as their beating stick, because, you're just wrong. They're talented, but they do not mog everyone here. Lmao.
>>7968452>>79684622nd, also, I know what you are, that gap gives you away. The thread needs more pomni
>>7968446You need to get to the point where going a whole day without drawing becomes awful and unthinkable
>>7968466maybe ragatha, pomni is a slut
>>7968472The world does need a little more ragatha being dicked down by Jax in it
>>7968464Who is futafag
i procrastinate drawing backgrounds and full figures with faces
I want to BE Pomni
Why can't I be consistent? I draw ok one day and then trash the next. I can spend hours upon hours just browsing for references but it doesn't matter if I can't draw a single decent line.Anyways I had fun sketching these.
>>7968476>>>>7968256>>7968198
>>7968477You have the studycel curse where you just draw the same thing you're comfortable with over and over. Be thankful you aren't funschizo.
>>7968485Gaps in your fundies/construction knowledge means you’re spinning the roulette instead of using a consistent process
>>79684621st one>>7967998>>7967626good stuff
>>7968490what does it mean to be funschizo
>>7968426he has bibisi envy, sad!
>>7968494Draw only boxes for 2500 hours and find out
>>7968485you rely too much on intuition and not enough on observation / form
>>7968357> You should scan it and add stickersSome pieces fell off because the I jewed out on the glue
>>7968491>>7968500I though constructing means you do a rough of the subject (large shapes) and then iterate on it to refine (small)? Thats what I've been doing, isn't that construction?I've never really used boxes or cylinders or whatever the fuck to start, just shapes that kind of resemble the subject. I've tried before but it didn't really make sense to me.How do I get better?
Restarting with 21 days to draw video course after a long break.Couldnt be assed to do the tin can labels.I think the strongest are the tennis balls down left. Still have to figure out how to shadows properly which feels weird when i feel my shading is stronger/should pick up the slack in the shadow department.
>>7968475
>>7968520this is unbelievably fire (t. pomni irl)
>>7968520p-peak so fucking peak....
>>7968504Construction doesnt necessarily have to be about boxes, cylinders and balls. Think of it as working out a draft floorplan with exact proportions/orientation.An easy example would be the negative space between the linked picture's roght breast and upper arm/upper thigh. If you focus on it, it's more akin yo a triangle pointing to the right from your view. On yours, its more of a rectangle that has a bended side on the top. To better get a sense of what construction is, think of it more as "scaffolding" rather than specifically just "forms" as it includes things like measuring proportions with lines and whatnot.
>>7968504what you describe is what a 'block-in' stage isit's primarily a 2d process, to get general proportions and placements rightconstruction is about a 3d process, where you build/modify/carve 3d forms (they can be simple like boxes, or complex like a ribcage)both are useful
Had to abort because I ended up painting on the lineart layer for an inordinate amount of time. Tried out a few new brushes, didn't work as intended.>>7968527>>7968535I see, that makes sense. I guess I might need to start doing another layer for lineart instead of dong everything on the sketch layer. Thank you for the help!
rate my face (not my face)
>>7968192>I decided to leave it silent, no dialogue.It works. Sometimes it's good to just let the pictures tell the story.>it took me a whole day to do. (7 hours aprox?). That's too much.Wow, you really ran with it. You must have felt inspired. I know you mentioned you don't do comms for the reasons you mentioned, but you have the speed that is needed to turn a profit (taking on many projects in close succession, cranking them out fast). >But it was fun!!!Thanks for the work you did.
>>7968427>I spent a full hour drawing and erasing, it feels like the paper there is a few layers thinner now.Get a tablet.
>>7968504Get the hide courses from the video course thread, he will walk you through it with lots of examples
>>7967878Thanks for the feedback! I ended up removing some of the noise in the bg and handing it off. I may redo the clouds later - if not, I’ll implement it for the next piecePerspective studies to try and apply this.
>7968192Is the mass reply game just for (You) farming? Why spam replies just to say pointless, unconstructive fluff? It seems like a strategy to make a giant wall of text so people are forced to pay attention to you.
>>7968555mad he didnt reply to u huh?
Imagine being this buttblasted lmao
trying to make the silhouette do the work>>7967395this is the most interesting one, the lighting and comp is just a step better than the other two>>7968517the seam of the tennis balls turned out really well, i think you can go a bit darker on your shadow areas
>>7968556>>7968559There is a reason why he always attaches the wall of “compliments” to his comics, and it’s so everyone can know how “nice” he is.
>>7968560Noted, thanks. The guy in the course made a point that its easier to add more shade/shadow later than it is to substract it, so i went lighter, but to be honest my pressure control is far from excellent so that probably also contributed to mentally lessening the darks.
>>7968485I really like your line and figure language. I don't agree with this anon >>7968500>you rely too much on intuitionI think relying in your intuition is the key to unlock the appeal you seek to achieve, of course that needs to be paired with consistency at all costs. You will be correcting course along the way by doing these pretty figs every day as you are doing. I really like your ref taste, you will be okay you definitely "have it", if "I" can give and advice it would be not to fall for the render trap, you should keep doing these rough figs non-stop, till they look so good you don't even need rendering. And THEN get into rendering full-on.>>7968544=) !!!! Thank you so much anon!!!! I'm glad you liked it!!!>>7968267Cool mechArcher!>>7968555Motherfucker I made a whole fucking comic in a day for one post! The least I can do is to take five minutes more to give the ten (You)s that I'm allowed to give to anons that took the effort to draw something and post it. No draws here are lazy even to type a few words!!! Good lord!>>7968414That looks good! Every time you avoid doing those gory pieces you do extremely beautiful stuff.>>7968256You're fucking amazing, crazy talent>>7968193I love these, is this from imagination?>>7968142Pretty nice attempt! I like her face, and how you did the folds in her sweater, specially in the sleeve!>>7967743Absolute patrician taste on ref, I'll see if I can give it a try later...
>>7968569>immediately comes crawling out when someone makes a critical comment
>>7968569>I love these, is this from imagination?nope they're ~1h studies from elden ring's artbookI have a few more I wanna do, maybe a longer study, then I'll invent some of my own
>>7968572>crawling outThat fag is always swinging "his" dick front row in this /BEG/ bitch ass general. I wish "he" would crawl back under some rock. Low effort fags be damn.
>>7968572He's taken critique before. Don't know what you're on about.
>>7968580> Don't know what you're on about.Directing you to my previous replies so you can read them:>>7968555>>7968562
>>7968581Who gives a fuck? Some people like receiving a (you) on their art instead of their posts constantly fading through obscurity from the 300 replies of schizoids arguing over mundane shit.
>>7968009先帝創業未半,而中道崩殂。今天下三分,益州疲弊,此誠危急存亡之秋也。然侍衛之臣,不懈於內;忠志之士,忘身於外者,蓋追先帝之殊遇,欲報之於陛下也。誠宜開張聖聽,以光先帝遺德,恢弘志士之氣;不宜妄自菲薄,引喻失義,以塞忠諫之路也。宮中府中,俱為體,陟罰臧否,不宜異同。若有作姦犯科,及為忠善者,宜付有司,論其刑賞,以昭陛下平明之治,不宜篇私,使內外異法也。侍中、侍郎郭攸之、費褘、董允等,此皆良實,志慮忠純,是以先帝簡拔以遺陛下。愚以為宮中之事,事無大前出師表
>>7968582>some people want fake compliments from the attention whoreQuite sad innit?
>>7968569Thank you peril. I'll keep doing the figs, but I'm going to keep working on my rendering too. I know its best to focus on one thing at a time, but I feel like I'm so close to cracking the code on painting that I just need to push through on it. Its weird, sometimes I think I've got it and other times it just comes out like liquid shit (picrelated).Nice fig btw, your use of contrast is simply unparalleled.
>>7968585No draws will never know or feel that joy. Sad.
>>7968585And yet, you haven't critiqued anyone's work, let alone posted your own.
No reference for once.
>>7968589i would sure hope so
>>7968588>assumingDone both ITT. Not attached to unrelated replies of course.
>>7968591Suuuuure
>>7968193
>>7968594Do you have any recommendations for books for learning landscapes?
>>7968596I haven't used anythe generic advice for painting anything works: zoom out, squint, focus on valueknowing basic perspective helps too
So am I supposed to start by finding the gesture or by drawing the large forms?
>>7968600Talent.
>>7967596more stuff
>>7968600Do what's best to reach the desired result.
>>7968600Just draw.
>Tell people I draw>They ask to see it>Don't have anything to show because all I do is gesture drawings and boxeshaha...
>>7968614Draw something you like then?
>>7968616Like what?
>>7968618I don’t know what you like… Architecture? Furries? Anime?
>>7968620He can't say what he likes... starts with -lo-, ends with -li-...
>>7968614better than showing them and them asking what you think about a higher level of mental health care lol
Going through some old drawings. This looked a lot cooler in my mind. I need some suggestions to make it better if I am going to continue to attempt drawings like this.
>>7968631This looks cool because it has a retro nostalgic vibe to it, good old 2000's cgi slop. I like it.
>>7968589Cute.
>>7968624Based.
>>7968632that looks nothing like 2000s CGI you fucking mongoloid
>>7968631you haven't observed the city enoughthere's a shitload of stuff in a city, but in your mind's void there are only boxes with rectangular windows of different sizes, all perfectly aligned
>>7968632thank you <3>>7968637I don't know what he's talking about desu>>7968639So you would say to add more detail to this kind of image?
>>7968637You don't know shit. That's PS2, Dreamcast, XBOX era CGI. Also PC games and many anime-ero CGI from the era used the same clean low poly style. That's 2005-2010 CGI style.
>>7968639what book is this from
>>7968644I played some of those games but I'm not familiar. Do you have an example by chance?
>>7968631>>7968632>>7968644HOLY SAMEFAG BATMAN!
>>7968641no, I'm saying you have no clue what a city looks likego out and sketch a real cityor be a wuss and sketch it from photographs at the very least>>7968646maedax no haikei moe
>>7968649Okay. I just tried to do it with plain one-point perspective and no ref lol>>7968648It's not me :(
>>7968653>It's not me :(
>>7968655Is not :( I am strong honest man
>>7968658Is beautiful but I am having trouble understanding what is going on in the painting. In particular what is that thing to the left?
>>7968644krill issue
>>7968662my drawing do not look like that :O
>>7968664I know, I was giving the retard an example of early 2000s cgi for his reference
>>7968661I need to work on my modelling and atmospheric perspective. I was trying to draw an industrial estate and some rocks - On the left there's supposed to be a sign, a bunch of ugly concrete aggregates, a celtic cross and some small trees / bushesI don't know if any of this is clearer on the preliminary drawing
>>7968673or under drawing this isn't a preliminary drawing
>>7968426Mogs me.
>>7968647It's an early low poly 3D CGI style used in the 2000s, it was elegant and effective for Games, and it was used a lot by indie 3D games specially "ero" like picrel. Also in many animes in the 2000s. It has that "glow" effect that was very common in the PS2 - Dreamcast - XBOX graphics. It was the beginning of the "liminal" style of the 2000s usually paired with jungle rhythm and bass:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1d_aEantvchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijVo1pxtJZMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOjvfmjERNYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUcKKrcsuYkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pKs6E5m9Vghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccPSH-Gr7aEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XInbuCw3jT4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wSvAH3LQZk&https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US2-Hvjr6Lshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEP3fmz6jV4
>>7968676>>7968658The ambiguity is a crutch rather than a conscious choice you ought to work in exercises that describe what you're observing / what you're trying to create more precisely until you feel confident breaking the rule
theres no way funanon is the homonigger
>personafag mogs usListen. You're in the /beg/ thread, upset that non-/beg/s are fishing for attention. Anyone who says they've only been drawing for under a year that "mogs" you has clearly been "doodling" for longer than you've been doodling. It's why we say "just draw". They can improve faster doing studies because they're not just now starting on doing something other than writing illegible chicken scratch. Doodling gets you familiar with lines work and flow. Most of the better artists in this thread likely have been drawing "unseriously" since grade school or its equivalent.
>>7968662 >>7968631I thought the same, cool 2000s CGI vibes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZh_HTgUqco
>>7967911another^3
>>7967922I feel like I'm just trying to adjust the construction to fit the pose I've already drawn, instead of the other way around
>>7968702dope as hell
>>7968702Oh shit this is coolIs there a lore or idea behind it, or is it just kinda random?
>>7968267I once again ask critique and help with the colors
made this a while ago, I know there is much wrong with it, but I am quite satisfied with itThough there is something off about it, what I don't know.
>>7968717Use lineweight to depict proximity. As it is right now, your image is difficult to read.
>>7968717you have problems grounding your figure to the floor, with the background and using structure to apply light and shadowstarting the sketch with a ground plane and an horizon line would help with the first two, and any decen perspective book with the third
GOD MADE ME TALENTLESS.
>>7968717does spider have puss-puss?
>>7968594Weeping Peninsula? I like this series anon, it would be great to see a few from bloodborne.
>>7968739redmane castle, here's the originalcolor does quite a bit to place it in context>it would be great to see a few from bloodborneI'll see if I can find that artbook, sounds fun
>>7968523>>7968522deer...
I forgot I've drew this by now.>>7968702Fuggen saved
>>7968702>>7968658fuck OFF!!!this is the /BEG/ general
>>7968754that's /beg/, get your eyes checked
>>7968746???whats with the cameras>>7967922i liked the first version of this angle more, it was more grotesque>>7967828less text for a change, i rike ti
>>7968723Cute work! The tree is on a different plane than the ground. Judging by the style, you're referencing isometric game art, so to keep it simple, I would change the ground to an isometric grid. You should try PixiEditor with this style, you can do a lot of fun things by animating something like this.>>7968631Love the thumbnail it's very eye-catching. but, the final piece is a bit too crisp everything is competing for my attention. I would blur some of the surrounding areas to help direct the viewer's focus. Great job!>>7968690good job, keep going
>>7968755i'm going to kill myself in 3 years
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7967743Beautiful ref>>7968572>=P>>7968560COOOOOL!!!!!!>>7968586>Nice fig btw, your use of contrast is simply unparalleled.THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!>>7968759THANK YOU! Nice hot sketches!>>7968702Beautiful piece!>>7968694>to adjust the construction to fit the pose I've already drawnWhy not? =) .. I believe that artists who achieve a successful style reach it through that method, they reshape "reality" according to their subjective artistic view, and they get something very special and unique.>>7968690Based Slayers enjoyer!!!>>7968676Spectacular!!!!>>7968668I LOVE HER FACE!!!!
>>7968781Oops. sent the unfinished one.
>>7967384>>7968120Today's minute gestures, would appreciate some input on the starred ones because those were some tough angleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBIRMwDZUvY
>>7968783good stuff, reminds me of an album cover to some really cool furry breakcore music
>>7968785So the second starred one;You'll be needing to pushe the head closer to the center of the torso and look out for the negative space shapes. It's a triangle, yes, but...The first starred one is such a nightmare of a pose I can't tell what's going on. I think that's a great way to learn which poses are "good" or "bad" - they're whatever you can actually capture to the eye at first glance maybe? Hm. I just don't personally like it haha.. Your head looks like she's facing away rather than us looking at the bottom of her chin. I'd recommend a different way to draw heads, but only for readability.I've included some snippets from Sinix and Sugar Owl's way of depicting heads in a less-refined manner. Sinix uses that weird paper method for the face and Sugar Owl depicts the cranium since it's easier to connect to the neckHope this helps.
>>7968668Fine is not looking fine...
>>7968810Thanks anon. For the first star, did you mean the pose itself was a nightmare or my interpretation was the nightmare? >Your head looks like she's facing away rather than us looking at the bottom of her chinI noticed that too and I tried making the neck and chinline more prominent, but it did still look like she's bending forwards instead of backwards. I knew it was a tough angle but I wanted to try getting out my comfort zone so I tried it anyways.
God please grant me talent.
>>7968814>For the first star, did you mean the pose itself was a nightmare or my interpretation was the nightmare? The pose itself. Your gestures are really clean actually.
>>7968819samefag If you want an interesting way to apply what you're learning on these gestures, I'd recommend eggazyoutatsu's Atarichan. It requires Ruffle addon to run, but it's fun. It's a browser-builtin flash that allows you to draw on top of provided poses so that you can practice the anatomy you know on. You can also rotate the figures too.
>>7968820>eggazyoutatsu's AtarichanSorry, I meant to say the AtarichanDrawer. I'm retardard tonight it seems.http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/atarichanDrawer.html
>>7968819>>7968820>>7968821Thanks! I'm not entirely sure what this Atarichan does but I'll check it out when I get Ruffle. Are the poses built in or repose-able, like Toribash?
>>7968827we can't help you with that, go talk to your therapist
>>7968824I believe AtarichanDrawer is pre-posed and Atarichan is poseable. something like that. I don't use it as much as I used to, but in the past I would use it as a followup to the warmup timed gestures.
another practice>>7968569>Pretty nice attempt! I like her face, and how you did the folds in her sweater, specially in the sleeve!thanks for the compliment
I CANT DRAW
>>7968843Do the shrimp exercise and get back to us.
>>7968759>camerasHe doesn't need to attack physically, although he is spproaching
>try to mindlessly copy some random anime ribcage i saw on twitter>it's very hard and i can't land my lines correctly most of the time>also tend to forget details on fly cuz i have poor working memory and have to focus as much as i canimagine being this brainlet
>>7968843FIFTY FIVE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7968761Well I was trying to make a flowing delta or whatever that's called around it, but I think I messed up the angle and the width of the rivers.I should also have added several layers of detail but im kinda proud cause it only took me 15 minutes or so
>>7968912You also need to go talk to a therapist
>>7968912Can't draw if keeping a circle inside a square is an impossible task.
Not only do I suck at drawing, but I suck at everything else I’ve ever tried to do in my life too.I’m tired of being an incompetent idiot.
I was going to draw last night but passed out at 7pm please forgive me..,
I can feel myself becoming more incredible by the second!
>>7968980https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JEjQG4-tpUToday... you are the main character... today YOU ARE NUMBER ONE!
>>7968983https://youtu.be/EZdiUNX6f2g?is=Y8RAuhVb46iTgdylStill one of the most badass moments in anime history
drawabox has a somewhat complicated 25 wheels challengewill going through it improve my ability to copy anime girls?
>>7968990Drawing a couple boxes a day from different angles will help train your intuition for perspective. I wouldn't bother with the autistic 100 box challenges though
>>7968912>six years>for thisMOGGED BY HATKIDGOD
Quick copy warmup
>>7969016Not bad at all! Cute Rem
GIVE ME MY FUCKING (YOU)S YOU FAGS!
I lied
>>7969028If everyone got a (You) they would become meaningless.If you want a (You) you need to post notable work
>>7968783Beautiful gorgeous precious>>796860310/10 beautiful There I give you to underappreciated drawing
>>7968838Eyes and head seem small, also the eyes are a bit more symmetrical than you would expect. I like the pose, its cute and has character.
>>7969034Thanks anon!!!!
>>7969029welcome back queen
>>7967743the rare realism practice
>>7969048I will only post very sporadically from now on.. if I draw too much I stress over it and can't do it well.. need to keep myself relaxed about it.. in the zone.. so no too much drawing or thinking about drawing..
>>7969059i believe in you cutie
>>7969053bad proportions for the head, missing also its gesturenot paying enough attention to the subject
>>7969053Your body looks fantastic, but I think the anime faces you tend to draw are a crux. Her face looks older in your image.
>>7969063at this point just trace
>>7969063>nooo the drawing doesn't copy the ref 1:1!!hyperrealism photocopy jeet, I presume?
>>7969065>>7969067the point of the practice is to observebeing lazy with it just makes the practice pointless
>>7969068vilppu disagree
>>7969063A ref is supposed to be just that: a ref.
>>7969070if you miss out on what makes a ref interesting, why bother with the ref at all
>>7969074for some reason ecchi and hentai artists love absurdly giant off-model boobs and asses
>>7969068Observe, yes. Aside from the face the drawing is still appealing and follows the reference, which is supposed to be the goal. Not to be perfectly copied.
i need to actually start thinking about perspective / the ground and actually place characters logically>>7968782i like the face stylization here>>7968702sick, what did you use for this?
>>7969075PYW>You won't.
>>7969068>being lazy with it just makes the practice pointlessRetarded at best, crab at worst. This is the kind of shit that keeps people from drawing. Every line you draw has value even if it's wrong, you just need to be willing to spend time self-critiquing.
>>7969079I'm not even in favor of 1:1 copiesbut in this case he missed the angle of the shoulders, lean of the neck, proportion of the head and far armoverall gesture stuff that makes his pose more boring than the original
>>7969075time to post your 1:1 copies lil bro
>>7969067I mean the issue here is that the dude’s study did have flaws, but just overlapping it onto the ref doesn’t contribute anything to the conversation, because the dude could have just done that himself duh
>>7969088That's fair, sorry I thought you were one of those schizos.
>>7969089he won't, he's a no draw lazy fag
>>7969092I'm not, that's the worse parthe could've even slapped one of his anime faces and make the tits even bigger, and I'd be fine with it, as long as the interesting gesture was preserved
Can someone confirm if this is the correct placement of reilly rhythms on a skull? The brow region really throws me off because it doesn’t seem to match up with them
>>7969095well you know...I could also draw your own version and post it here
>>7969089I mean they literally admit to it being a half assed observation so deflecting about it and calling it stylization is either a cope or they're retarded and don't know what the goal of observation studies are.
I hope you all have good summer^^
>>7969110works posted: zerostatus: no drawing and coping
>>7969110You know that if you reply to a pyw request and you don’t post any work you look like dogshit right?
im so fucked
>>7969127Mikuru so cute!
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>>7969079No, the point is to be able to convey what you see, otherwise you will have problems with drawing from your imagination and you will end up with crap like this >>7969136 >>7969140
>>7969142pyw shart
>>7969134AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>7969147The urabe you posted is cute
I feel as though no matter how many times I try drawing I can just never "get it". I can't sit down to read, I can't study, i can't draw anything.
And what's the point of learning anatomy for anime crap? Without an anatomical design, it is impossible to normally calculate the location of the forehead and eyes
>>7969115>>7969121im not even the guy you were pestering to post their work I'm just a rando calling out the retardation like... lmfao
Just draw x4
>>7969155wait... youre the person who used to spam circles... when did you upgrade to 3d? this person is evolving before everyone's eyes and everyone is too blind too see past the autism
>>7969156By 2030 he might even draw a figure!
>>7969158it'd still unironically be more progress than most ppl on this board. gegg
>>7967743tits over apples
>>7969084>>7969089>>7969102here you go, feel free to shit on it
>>7969168
>>7969168Be honest, did you run this through comfy AI?
>>7969172>>7969174the salty and idiotic responses I expected, thanksthis is why people don't post their work when they give critique
>>7969174don't give attention to the sharty shitter
>>7969175Bro, please be honest. Is this really your way of messy sketching or are these artifacts?
>>7969180sketchinghow much resolution does AI give you?how much should I zoom in so you can stop being retarded?
>>7969172>>7969175>>7969180It's also strange because I'm trying to figure out who you are in the beg thread but no one draws like this here. Maybe I'm wrong, link a piece of your art posted here to compare and I will take everything I said back and apologize.
>>7969101Seriously, no one can offer any help?
>>7969182I intentionally did things differently this time, so that schizos with a grudge wouldn't target my usual work
>>7969181>>7969185You're probably right. You have my apologies.
>>7969185What a joke lmao. AIndian until proven otherwise.
>>7969184No
>>7969035you're right the eyes were done in a different style im used to and so i fucked it up and the face is a bit small i appreciate the comment though anon
>>7969101Send me a clean image of that skull and I'll highlight the structure for you.
>>7969192Ok nvm you took too long. I was gonna knock it out quick since it'd be like a 30 second thing but time ran out I g2g. Hopefully me bringing attention to it gets someone else to do it. If I come back and it's still neglected I'll just fucking draw the entire skull and highlight that part. Bye bye
>>7968759I dun think it was better, and it didn't quite fit with the composition I had in mind, which is picrel. it's getting too messy, right? I'm trying to cram in too much and it's turning into visual slop. two more sketch layer passes and it'll look alright, I hope[spoiler]I LOVE POSTING 345 WIPS OF THE SAME DRAWING T. ATTENTIONWHORE[/spoiler]>>7968783>>7969163/pro/
I just finished this in 30 minutes :D, any feedback?
>>7969198fun illustration, good job so farbut I can only think it would be nicer if it were rendered normaly instead of just red and blue
>>7969101Don't know the Reilly method but Loomis' skull construction is the best there is. You just need to know the planes of the skull in a simplified manner, genuinely look up how Loomis draws his skulls.
warmup from last nightI need to grind some sort of exercise today but idk what
>>7969215cute!but finish it, don't skip the hands
I still haven't been able to motivate myself to make a single drawing outside of this one. I still can't figure out Loomis. I still can't figure out Drawabox. I simply don't have it within me to motivate myself to do anything more than these sketches. I can't study, I can't grind. No dopamine, means I fundamentally will not do it.
>>7969208>>7969208Loomis crap, it's easier to remember the basis of the head, although if you're not talented then don't care
>>7969225this is who your taxes go to btw
>>7969229
>>7969172Shitty observation skills. NGMI.
sharty shitter having another meltdown
>>7969208Thanks for this anon, I will check out Loomis’ skull more closely. I’m decently familiar with skull planes, but I’ve been trying to pick up the Reilly rhythms as a quick form method, but the problem is Watts never elaborates on what line corresponds to what on real skulls! No notes on where to place them, just vibes
>>7969225You're worrying too much about loomis and drawabox, dopamine comes from drawing what you want.
>>7969225It's nice you're finally starting to realize that you're ngmi.
the GOAT
>>7969239I tried that mindset and everyone here told me that I didn't get anywhere in a year. I seriously think I need to grind more, but it doesn't give me the dopamine to do so.
>>7969248So you've come to the realization that drawing is gay and lame to you. That's a good thing, because it means you don't need to waste time on a hobby you don't enjoy anymore. Find something you like so much that it feels effortless. Don't end up like funschizo drawing boxes for 6 years.
>>7969248>I didn't get anywhere in a yearThey're more annoyed at your attitude, you went from genuinely horrific shit to passable art in a year, but getting stuck in the mindset of must grind and never actually enjoy art is going to get you nowhere, draw something and look what you want to improve instead of fretting about mastering Loomis.
>>7969252Anon, literally every single hobby I've ever done is like this. That's the problem. My ADHD makes it so that I fundamentally cannot ever ever ever self-motivate.
>>7969198>senpai's backGod I love your art.
>>7969258>tfw even the hat kid anon made progress and I couldn't
>>7969225You are truly one of my least favorite posters to ever grace this august board with your presence, and that’s honestly saying something
>>7969239I also feel as though I absolutely need Loomis because I need to get his method down to begin with. I barely even use the Loomis method at all, and I need to figure it out if I want to draw anything.
So glad I never got caught up endlessly studying methods from guidebooks. Just draw what you want ffs.
>>7969269See understanding loomis is different from being the worldwide recognized grandmaster of Loomis method, I believe that anon has a decent enough grasp of loomis but doesn't actually apply it in the real world. There will be no perfect loomis head by studying loomis nonstop, draw what you want applying what you know and take notes of your mistakes.
>>7969267But we're still in June.
>>7969274In europe it is july already.
>>7969231Fuck I shouldn't have laughed at that.
>>7969273I feel like I need to know it at all first. That's why I've been tracing screenshots.
>guy who probably faps to loli porn every day has fried dopamine receptors
Also, as someone tried guiding me through the process of drawing, I seriously need to get more practice of boxes. Look at this shit. I can barely draw it.
>>7969282I think it's worse that this is probably not the case, he would probably be able to draw something if he did.>>7969283>I can barely draw it.Yeah because that's not drawing, that's boxes, or grinding boxes, its borderline mental illness, you need to worry less about boxes and draw.Look up how an artist actually draws, timelapses or sketches.
>>7969291>Look up how an artist actually draws, timelapses or sketches.I've seen plenty. And I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing as shown here.
>>7969296you are so fucking annoying oh my god
>>7969273I feel like I don't understand it at all, and can't even use it. That's my problem.
>>7969296No you haven't, no artist draws like that, there are so many lines it would be unreadable if you didn't make them different colors, and even then it's way too confusing to mean anything.>you are so fucking annoying oh my godThis is what I'm talking about, it's just this behavior, you might have improved but this mentality is unbearable.>>7969299That is just reading the book, read what Loomis wrote.
>>7969302Anon, I've seen a fucking million WIP sketches before. I've even watched a fuckton of timelapses. I still don't know what the fuck I'm doing. And that's the thing. Already doing this is confusing enough with all the lines and I can't figure this shit out.Every time I've tried going through that Loomis book, I always give up around the body construction part. I don't know what I'm doing and the book never explains on how to actually draw the figures.
>>7969305> I've seen a fucking million WIP sketches before. I've even watched a fuckton of timelapsesI do not believe this, no one is making anything satisfactory by drawing like that, you're proof of it.>Already doing this is confusing enough with all the lines and I can't figure this shit out.Don't do this, just draw what is on your mind or get a reference to apply the method, focus on the drawing and not the loomis.>always give up around the body construction part. You're not drawing bodies, so why are you there, when you're able to draw a head you go to bodies.
>the pedophiles are the most retarded and incompetent perma prebegs stuck grinding boxes endlessly and crying about itlol
>>7969311>I do not believe this, no one is making anything satisfactory by drawing like that, you're proof of it.Yeah, watching time lapses is not the same thing as learning how to actually do it. I still don't understand what the fuck I'm doing despite having watched all of these. >Don't do this, just draw what is on your mind or get a reference to apply the method, focus on the drawing and not the loomis.That's what I've been trying to do and I still don't understand jack shit. >You're not drawing bodies, so why are you there, when you're able to draw a head you go to bodies.I'm drawing bodies right here>>7969225
>>7969258>draw something and look what you want to improve instead of fretting about mastering Loomis.I need to fucking learn the methods to be able to draw anything to begin with. I'm not even past the starting line because I still don't know this shit. I'm just stuck here trying to figure out these different methods.
>>7969245very cute designsome suggestions, not really a redline as I couldn't solve the perspective of her sitting without changing too muchmaybe someone else can help
>>7969198Just wanna say I love your art. Please post more.
>You should just draw what you want>Tries to draw what I want>Actually you need to study loomis more>You shouldn't focus so much on Loomis and you should just draw what you wantWhich fucking is it?
>>7969335It means DeviantArt might be better for you.
Like seriously, I cannot figure this fucking shit out.
>>7969328Thanks for the suggestions, perspectives kinda fucked wihtout redoing the whole thing I think. I tend to have this habit of drawing the body first and then think of the background which makes it kinda disconnected. Will keep at it w this one a little longer then try some more poses
I don't understand what people aren't getting about this. I can't just "draw what I want to draw" when I fundamentally do not know how to draw to begin with. You're asking me to do something when I don't know the first fucking thing about it.
Most people who do shit like this are either intentional trolls and/or they get off on the hate, just stop replying to him
>>7969343Have you tried not being retarded?
>>7969348How about giving some advice instead.
>>7969349Tried it, got told why you can’t. Retard.
>>7969351So then give me something that works.
>>7969321>watching time lapses is not the same thing as learning how to actually do it.It's called "Observational learning"I can search art timelapse on youtube dotcom and I'll never ever find anything like >>7969283 because that gets you nowhere and teaches you nothing.>That's what I've been trying to do and I still don't understand jack shit. You posted an drawing you did a while ago, since then, what "drawing" have you done, moreover your "drawing" still has the lines from loomis and your construction, is that really what an artist would do as an art piece progresses?>Yes, I am. That's what I'm doing up here.when you're able to draw a head you go to bodies.I'm not going to shit up the thread with another reply to a post of yours, unless it contains an actual drawing.
>>7969353
>>7969355go be a wagie somewhere else you old fag
>>7969354>Never find anything like thatReally? >>7957627>>7957610>>7957684>You posted an drawing you did a while ago, since then, what "drawing" have you done,Well, ever since this conversation started I've been looking at the drawabox lessons and trying cubes.>when you're able to draw a head you go to bodies.I've been drawing heads for a fucking year. Are you telling me I still cannot draw bodies?
concepts for a challenge
>>7969360very coolI think the one in the right might benefit from more clarity, right now the concept is too ambiguous
>>7969151>>7969101
I can’t figure out the hands this is why I’ll never make it
Hat kid fag not understanding what a sketch even entails is actually a lot more common around here than people think. It's endemic among copy studiers like in /asg/. Sketching is fundamentally completely different from copying. Someone who has become skilled at copying has a rude awakening in store for them when they try to find a workflow where they attempt to develop a drawing from scratch.
>>7969365good stuffyou might be mixing interchangably the brow and the eyebrow the brow is supposed to be there to protect the eyes, so placing it so far above doesn't make much sense, but the eyebrows can move depending on the expression, and can be really high up
>>7969373Okay, then explain it for me.
>>7969377Loomis
it's all about APPEALif you don't have that, give up
>>7969365And you just proved that anime shit has no anatomy. It’s almost impossible to draw him without a reference, since in anime crap it’s impossible to properly realize proportions and perspective
>>7969378I'm trying Loomis and I don't know what I'm doing.
The face turned out bad so I'll probably redraw it this evening. Sketching has been fun but I will start a real piece tonight or tomorrow I think.>>7969024Ty!
>>7968690
>>7969384cute!shoes need some work, and they're slightly too smalla rule of thumb is that feet are larger than the hands
some of the usual supects
>>7969381Look again. He showed the the sockets of the eyes and side plane in a stylized way which should tell you why studying skulls is still useful.
>>7969083acrylic paint, watercolour and coloured pencil!
>>7969409We literally want you to fail, so no. No one will explain it.
>>7969354Are you going to explain how the fuck this works or what? I got an entire tutorial in my thread where the person was putting the cubes around the head exactly as I tried doing in that picture. So, am I not supposed to follow it, or am I supposed to not do that? What the fuck am I doing wrong? I'm really getting tired of this thing you fucks do where you beat around the bush and never fucking explain anything.
>>7969418We’re not going to explain anything because we want you to fail.
>>7969396>>7969396These are completely different drawings and the skull has no use here, anime crap in the right proportions can only be drawn by talented carrions
>>7969418Stop drawing boxes, do copies, draw what you see in your mind or from reference, try to intuit the drawing without relying on construction too much.
>>7969425I feel like at a certain point though, I need construction to show me what to do.
Following along with the skull section in hide’s head course. I need to slow down and do the jaw area properly instead of just winging it…>>7969390Cute!>>7969371Just go for it and don’t worry about failing
>>7969434It's about how much it traps you into doing the same thing over and over again without experimentation.
Last one
Today’s perspective practice. Took significantly longer than I expected
>>7969225You can do it!!!>>7969215Cool!>>7969168I love her shoulder+tricep and her quad muscle on the right!>>7969163BEST IN THREAD!!!>>7969114Thanks Aiza anon! Beautiful drawing as always!>>7969083>i like the face stylization hereThank you Thank you Thank you!!! BEAUTIFUL FIGURES!!!>>7969053NICE SILHOUETTE!!!>>7969390LOVELY!!!>>7969371As the other anon said go for it, you're good and you know it, you shouldn't worry.>>7969389HYPER MEGA COOOOOL!!!!!!!!
>>7969447Noice Hatkid.
>>7969443where is your eye level
>>7969447The one time you accidentally replied to me because I posted my sketchbook was funny
dunno what to draw
>>7969457Around the middle I suppose
>>7969390thought that was Garfield in the thumbnail at first lmao
then we should be seeing up at the roofs, and your picture vps suggest we're looking down at them (with an approximate eye level in the blue line) however you've placed the vps so far apart as to almost have no perspectivewe should also be seeing the convergence of the floor walls in each direction (unless we're in a hill and the buildings are cut off from our view
Trying to break myself out of overrendering and experimenting with more 'textured' brushes. How does this look?
>>7969475I love that little nibba like you wouldn't beleive.
