Why don't more people here talk about streaming as a way to monetize your art?Every time I pull up the Art category on twitch I see some random unknown with at least 300 viewers. I know multiple examples of people who basically make enough income to stream fulltime with an average of 400 viewers per stream, so, we're not talking extreme or unreasonable numbers here. Granted it depends on how many of those viewers you can convert into subscribers, but it is doable.There are lots of ways you could monetize the stream besides just hoping that people convert into subscribers and/or youtube viewers. Live lessons, live redlines of viewers' work on stream, etc. It seems like a better business model than just spamming comms into the void so I'm surprised more people don't try it.
>>7970053You're basically trying to convince people that it's a good time to buy a shovel after the gold rush is over. Like you might get a nugget here and there but that ship has sailed. Twitch fucking normie slop worn tf out. Unless you're screaming like a chimpanzee you're not gonna be able to get any viewers. All those "randoms" with even more than 100 viewers are established somewhere else and try to pivot into twitch, or they've been streaming for YEARS. The only way an artist pulls more than 1k viewers is if they're also a vtuber or just chatting streamer.
>>7970058>opens twitch>looks through art section>it's all vtubers or womenye seems right. im sure if went lowest to highest for viewers id see all the men or mute/avatarless streamers.
I'm afraid I might mess up while everyone is watching.I'm ESL and I have nothing interesting to say.I don't want anyone to see my drawing process which consist of a lot of CTRL Z, liquify and free transform abuse (probably why so many art streams start with a finished sketch).
>>7970053lol retard, everything but just chatting is fucking dead
>>7970053having 400 viewers puts you in the top 0.1% of streamers. it's not that easy. there's a lot of competition. and the art category is kinda dead. unless you have an audience from other social medias it's very hard to make it from 0 viewers. there's 100s of people streaming into the void.
>>7970053for 1 dude with 300 viewers there's 100 people with 1 viewer.
>>7970066And furthermore, it's not just about the art but about being a personality. People come home from a long day at the office and just want their name read back to them and acknowledge their existence first then your art 2nd.
>>7970053I do not need fucking parasocial parasites giving me another source of stress
>>7970053>Jim Lee, beloved 90s comics icon and current head of DC Comics pulls around 150 viewers on a good day.>Baalbuddy averages like 30-50 people, despite making almost $2k a month on patreon, not including his auction slots for commissions that average +$500. >Highest Viewercount Channel is a fucking 24 hour Bob Ross rerun stream with barely 900 viewers.>Everyone else is a woman or a v-tuber with a twitter following of 100k+, some ranging all the way up to 400k+.>Even those people are only averaging anywhere between 50-300 viewers.The ship has sailed.
Every top art streamer doesnt draw, thru just faff about and chat. Same with youtubers. Basically any popular comment creator is a person who doesn't do the think they talk about. If they did the hobby, they would not have time to make exciting content for people who can't even pretend to do the thing.
>>7970053What do I say when nobody is watching me?
Rob Liefeld has been talking about how well he sells through live stream sales/auctions, and he feels that it's the next major platform for creatives. I'm not so certain, but I do see the value of watching some create the work, and purchasing it from that stream, so I'm talking moreso about Whatnot and Ebay streaming, rather that shit-hole twitch.If you're a trad artist, and you've got the setup to stream, I think this would be particularly good.>>7970370Imagine you're a radio host, rather than someone who's having an active conversation with the viewers.
>>7970384>next major platform for creativesIt kind of has to be, with the rise of AI. One-off anonymous comms have been devalued so you have to move into niches that haven’t been automated yet
>>7970185baal's an unlikable autist and 89% of the stream is watching him ctrl+z
>>7970437Anon, you've been posting that since last week. Time for your scheduled nap
i think youtube would be better
>>7970437>One-off anonymous comms have been devaluedOnly if you're some no-name generic artist who will take any under $50 commission they can get (thirdies).Artists who built an audience and have a distinct style to their work aren't having this problem, as far as I can tell.
>>7970446If that makes you sleep happily sure keep lying to yourself seen you do that since past year on this board, but the fact of the matter is AI has taken over.
>>7970053It was possible, but the art channel got fucked over hard when whore "streamers" and vtubers infested there when artistic nudity was allowed until they abused it and now the rule was changed.
>>7970185The people that even have time to watch streams are mainly underage shitters/pre=teens. That's demographic don't give a fuck about art, let alone can watch something like that because it's "too boring".
>>7970523Sinix's streams in the coof years were really fucking good, but yeah, the only reason people had time to tune in and draw along was that they were locked up in their homes.
>>7970446I am the world’s #1 AI hater. I just also people think that people should be realistic about it. Things like process videos and live audience interaction are obviously more valuable now. If artists are still making money off comms then that’s wonderful of course.
>>7970526covid was both the peak and death of twitch. It's when all normies were exposed to twitch and corporations wanted to get in on the money. Now whatever tf twitch is these days is some bastardization of what it was. Basically just primetime tv lite with how overproduced all of it is and all the random celeb collabs
>>7970569Honestly I kinda want the world to have another lockdown. A ton of cool shit got published on the internet between 2020 and 2022. Now a lot of the youtube channels from that era are abandoned and slowly rotting
