https://x.com/craftcapitallab/status/2069289437335543989I hate the antichrist
>>7972910Everyone knew this was coming. And most of japan and asia in general is not against AI use at all.
Wait 'till you learn how the old masters did it
>>7972915Yes everyone knows that Disney filmed their scenes with actors and used that as reference material. This is obviously not that.
>>7972917I didn't even realize it was AI, damn that shit sucks
>>7972914Japan and all of asia are anti-AI however
>>7972920lmao
>>7972923literal slop content
>>7972923This makes absolutely no sense. If someone wants AI-generated stories about their favorite character then they can just proompt the AI themselves. The developer is just a middleman at that point. Why does he think he’s adding anything of value at all? What the fuck am I missing here?
>>7972934That's what sloppers do not realize. Nobody cares about generated slop cause everyone can do it. Why do I need YOUR sloppy games or anime or movies or whatever when I can do the same? When animators or developers use skills I do not possess yea that's what I like to see.
My sociopathy grows stronger.
>>7972923How sad...
>>7972910You ever notice how its only blue checkmarks that talk to each other on twitter?
>>7972910>https://x.com/craftcapitallab/status/2069289437335543989You know what? It doesn't matter. This looks pretty impressive.If you have a story to tell then use whatever tool to get it out there I say. We already have people on this board who has every tool and course right under their nose even in the sticky to OP posts and their ideas are worse than what the AI spits out like they don't have a brain. >Why do I need YOUR sloppy games or anime or movies or whatever when I can do the same?Because your ideas probably suck. You can give an anon everything in the world to make art and all they make is a loli on a white background, center composition, naked, expressionless, lifeless, doing nothing of substance.
>>7972910>6k followers>most of the replies are bots I've seen /begs/ with a bigger follower base
>>7972910Good. I hope the entertainment industry swallows itself like an ouroborous. There shouldn't be art industries and normies shouldn't be attempting art. They need to think it's a gift from God they can never have. I wouldn't have said that a few years ago, but they really can't be trusted with anything good. You tell them a high level styill will take high levels of work and they shit their pants
>>7972923>you should be in favour of us using AI since it let's us pump out lower quality garbage at a faster rateAI shills are so delusional they thought this would win people over
>>7972969Call me controversial but when it's used in this way, where it's almost like a shader, I don't give AF. Human input still decides the directing, the models, the pacing, action, etc. I don't think this example exonerates all use of AI, because to be quite frank, most generative AI does not include this much effort in the deterministic/modularity of things, like 99.99999999%. They just do slop pulls at the gacha machine and due to that low barrier, it floods everything in shitty slop. Then they get mad when people don't want to consume said slop at the same mark up as things produced via human labor .
>>7972920Not really. Most gacha slop games use it, big studios like Shift Up have been openly using AI for thei gacha and also Stellar Blade etc. trained on their own art, a bunch of japanese devs even big ones like Square are already looking into AI fo QA etc.
>lmao the anti AI luddites still think AI can't do hands!! LMAO that was solved years ag- ACK!
>>7972910People underestimate how few people really dislike AI or can actually tell. The loud people on the internet are tiny tiny minorty compared to the billions who would not be able to tell or don't care as long as the result looks fine to them.
>>7972997Would you be able to tell or even go pixel hunting without already knowing that it's AI before watching?
>>7972999Well most people are cattle yes, hence why it's called slop
>>7972997>>7973001The biggest downside here means no more fan service pantu surprisuru. They'll have to create a dedicated specialized unit to panty and boobs stills.
>>7972990yeah the slot machine trash will never be okay but the OP to me seems alright especially when >>7972997this is where you can come in and fix it
>>7972990I’m super anti-AI and I don’t want to give them even an inch, but I agree that this is one of the less offensive uses of it, where a human did all the work to plan everything out and the AI is basically just applying a filter.
Those studio won't lie about using Ai. I can imagine they will be very quiet about it while studios that animate by hand will proudly mention it whenever they can.They know anime fans prefer traditional animation.
>>7973017I think hentai studios have been using AI for the backgrounds. It's so obvious. Then there is this anime called "Petals of Reincarnation" airing this season where it's obvious they're using AI for the backgrounds. The studio that's making that anime has been bought by an AI company ironically.
>>7973019Gooners don't care. If anything they'd be singing praises if something like what OP mentioned was integrated into hentai videos. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if there's already a team experimenting with it right now.
>>7972990It's less offensive that pure gacha AI but it still denies new talent from forming. Most of the sweatshop animators that did 2000s QUALITY anime learned new skills from their experience and did impressive stuff in the 2010s. When all you have to do is fixing slop artefacts you don't really build talent for future generations.
>>7973002Yeah, but they are sadly the ones that make companies the most money.
>"waiter waiter! there is slop in my slop!"RibTensei was alright by using various studios but the realest mexican anime fans who religiously watch narutoonepiecebleachdragonball and the total epic otakus who watch Vomittuber livestreams and greenlight rent a gf season 99 couldn't appreciate "not-hecking-pretty" anime like that
>>7972985the even funnier part, is that gen fag shills still expect/want people to pay premium prices for it. Why should I pay high prices for something you cheap out on?
>>7973023Hm I don't know, I think the roles would shift in response no? They just make the new entry level slave work be touch ups in addition to 3d model asset/scene creation and animation tweening. It'd be more like an evolution in what kind of work is done if this were to become the new standard. Not to say tech like this doesn't create disparity between those who are already in and those who aren't, I just think roles are always shifting in response to new tech. This is all being as pragmatic as possible because I'm personally pretty against AI and would never use it in my own work. I don't think I'm anywhere near a level where it wouldn't be a crutch and intellectually dishonest for myself, and I don't think I'll ever be an industry where it's mandatory.
>>7973026we will live to see rent a girlfriend season 9
>>7973029yeah the biggest thing is really all this means is less roles available. Either that, or they keep the same amount of roles and increase scope and ambition, which would be ideal, but asking a lot of studios that care more about staying afloat and their bottom line.
>>7972999nobody likes AI when they have to pay for it. If someone pays to see an ai generated movie then its going to suck and they will regret it, being less motivated to go to movies in the future, killing the industry. They dont have to outwardly hate ai but the proof is in the pudding. If people liked AI it would have many successful pieces of media by now.
>>7973040This is why creating dependence on AI is the only viable economic path. If you're paying attention, you'll notice they're creating the framework for total and complete dependence on a centralized hub of information and power. All I can really say is, hoarde all of the information that you can right now while it's still abundant. All of that shit is going away in the very near future. Do not wait. HDD prices are only going to continue to climb for the next few years to price people out of local storage. Once the framework is developed, prices will drop back down but but then it'll be too late .
>>7973044Sure, but it doesn't matter if customers just start seeking alternatives or products with forced AI integration don't turn a profit.Even companies that are forced to put AI in their products will have lawful reason to deny using AI since it directly hurts their bottom line unless there are investment funds giving companies money to keep using AI, exactly like DEI does with the creative industries like movies, cartoons and games, then it depends on if the bubble can sustain itself despite every industry being subsidized by a single entity that makes its money elsewhere to ultimately legitimize the products they sell; so basically; some investors that actually indirectly own stocks or/and products they force other companies to use to boost the stock prices and revenue of those companies and blackmail/blacklist every company that doesn't play ball.At that point, everyone should make an effort to tell the normies who will obviously not give a shit about the slop they eat, to give a shit and stop eating the slop.
>>7972985>they thought this would win people overThat's the thing, it does. Just not when you say it outright. Even anti-AI normies are too dumb to know when something is or isn't AI.
>if you lie people can't tell until you say the truthbreathing oxygen keeps you alive
All I know is that I have faith in humanity to recognize that distilling all of human creativity into a text prompt wielded by an insane AI programmed to cause addiction is disgusting and they won't fall for it. Plus I'm sure Hollywood and other existing entertainment industries will stand by their artists and compete with compelling and original stories.
>>7973098I hope this is sarcasm
>>7972923It’s so wild to say in the first paragraph how it’s gonna be a shit product but they can make more.Anyway the actual answer for games is to scale back graphics but focus on good art direction and story - which is how they released insane gems every year for before the 2010s. Nihon Falcom still does this and they are loved by everyone.
>>7972934AI has done wonders for the ego of midwit idea guys the world over.
>>7973112Yeah honestly I wouldn't hate AI as much if I didn't have to listen to all the most insufferable retards at my job peddle their slop projects and presentations. It's non stop and I'd rather just code by hand again if it meant they would fuck off back to doing low IQ bitch work.
>>7973026better
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>>7973026even they have standards, what's your excuse?
>>7973112Where was the perfect middle ground for art? Clearly we need some technology or we'll be denied the art of all the geniuses who aren't privvy to the secrets of making pigments, but too much technology seems to inevitablty send you on a crash course with AI slop
>>7973261Matter of perspective. From consumers? If the product is cheaper/faster to produce without sacrificing quality, then there is no limit on tech. More dopamine, faster, for lower price, is always the game.From billionaires/1%ers POV? We need MORE AI to replace the peasants. They loathe that they need us to operate the theme park that their world is. This is the last bit of power that the masses have over them. We write the stories, clean their toilets, build things, cook things. And they fear that someday we may riot. They want a future where AI/robots can do all those things, and all they have to do is stockpile resources and wipe the rest of us cockroaches out.From artists' POV? I think we are right at the edge. Many professional artists use AI to photobash, or save time on things people don't care much about (backgrounds, simple animations). But we all know it won't stop here if we allow corpos/politicians to do whatever they want. A new great depression is brewing unless we do something.
>>7973261Unless you want art to die we gotta straight up ban all slop and kill all sloppers.Otherwise it's just gonna be ai generated remakes of remakes until the end of times.
You don't lie to consumers. That's what it boils down to. Plant based meat alternatives being labelled as animal products because allegedly consumers can't tell the difference and it would only hurt sales if they were telling the truth. Same shit.
>>7973289... but they do it all the time!
>>7973289This.The reason why people are annoyed with AI is because for whatever reason, they don't want to admit to using AI. Literally nobody will give a shit if they openly call themselves AI users but they are insistent in calling themselves artists like how trannies call themselves women.
>>7973330Cheaters usually don’t want to admit to cheating. They want the social praise accorded to people who display artistic skill, but, they don’t have the skill themselves. So they lie and cheat. Pretty straightforward.
>>7972910I'm more looking forwards to fucking owning the damn models running on local instead of relying on cloud services. If it ain't no locally run models I aint building my work off of it because it can be taken away with just a snap.For what it's worth I can see that being useful for key animators and allow 3d artists to also support 2d artists. Or you can run on a leaner team. Like, dude, animation is a hellish industry you'll be paid like peanuts, the only way to get projects greenlit is hoping a you get funding from publishers.
>>7973026>animepaheRip the kindaokayish anime website
>>7973500and the most important part is the money factor. You think people want to pay premium prices for aie sloppa? They don't, so if those faggots told the truth and are up front about it, they won't be making as much or be charging even lower prices than 3rd world shitters.
>>7972910A part of me thinks this is cool, because artists could simply use their own art and style guides to create animation like this - artists without any degree of animation ability that is.On the other hand, okaying this will just lead to eventually okaying assholes who want to cut out any degree of human involvement.>>7972923Frankly, I don't care if they do it - just label it as such, so I can avoid it.Let me make informed purchase decisions, and let the public's wallet speak on whether or not they tolerate this shit.
>>7973289>>7973330>>7973500>/ic/ posting multiple posts above an IQ of 110have i died?
>>7973529Are you a zoomer? Why do people still use shitty streaming websites
>>7972910I dont see anything wrong with this. This is no different from using those miniature models.
>>7973581Yeah because we all know that any /beg/ with a miniature model can simply paint an entire professional quality anime over it.Retard.
>>7973514>update comfyui>workflow that used to work starts giving OOMs despite still having tons of RAM and VRAMsYEAH AI IS TOTALLY GONNA FUCKING REPLACE PEOPLE AHAHA BUULLLSHIIIITTTT
>>7973573Wot, animepahe has been around since 2018 something, around the time kissanime is starting to fade off the internet.
>>7972914first world countries generally don't like aithird world countries generally do like aijapan is basically the opposite of china/india when it comes to ai
>>7973596also, keyword "perceived" understanding. turns out having an average national iq in the 80s really boosts your Dunning–Kruger
>>7973573This isn’t pre 2010 anymore. Anime streaming sites have 1080p and include the dubs all in one place. Aside from their annoying logos you should be used to that growing up with nick/disney/cn etc logos in the corner which were worse.
>>7972923they couldn't even vibe code riichi mahjong in, sichuan mahjong is so boring in comparison that the majority of players just set it to auto and leave the game running for an hour to burn through stamina afk. i don't log in daily for this game anymore because there's nothing to do now until the next update. the activities are boring on their own which is why people try to minmax burning through their stamina rather than engage with it.
>>7973606Even at 1080p the quality is still shit just like "4k" youtube videos.You can also get all that and thousands more and anime you will never find on streaming sites on nyaa and won't have to rely on everything being online.Streaming is basicly just for people who only care about the current 1-2 big seasonal anime, especially since zoomers joined during covid
>>7973098>Plus I'm sure Hollywood and other existing entertainment industries will stand by their artists and compete with compelling and original stories.They won't cause they only value short-term profits but if they were smart they wouldn't, largely because this technology flattens the barrier of entry to making content and that is the number one advantage Hollywood has over everyone else. That's simply too expensive to make a Hollywood tier movie. However, At the rate and direction this technology is moving, if Hollywood were to normalize it, it would end up biting them in the ass, because at the end of the day, why would someone go and pay to watch their AI-generated movie in cinemas when they could just watch the same thing done on YouTube for free? YouTube and streaming already is responsible for the death of TV, if they want to speed up the process they would support this technolog.
>>7973606I really don't know what the fuck that other anon is trying to say.Anime streaming sites are fine and even better than those you have to pay forprobably a bot or an actual fossilngl i didn't even notice the logo until you said it
>>7973649Sounds more like you are just ignorant like every zoomer.Especially during anything fast paced or smooth or smooter animation it just turns into bitrate hell
>>7973668work on my machinemaybe shut the fuck up and buy a pc, old man
>>7973668You can just check your network usage too see that the sites are a lot of the time streaming you the same 1-1.3gb files that you would download from nyaa/horriblesubs
>>7973670That's ironic coming from a shitty stream site only viewer
>>7973676you wouldn't know irony if a steel beam melted in front of you
