who are good teachers?
>>7975427ProkoUncomfortableLoomis
>>7975427hide and Finch
>>7975427CUBEBRUSH Marc Brunet. nuff said.
>>7975441>Prokogrok, post the kangaroo picture
>>7975427KIM JUNG GI
>>7975496I don’t know why Marc Brunet doesn’t get mentioned more on this board, he gives a lot of really useful practical advice about how to approach learning and practice in general. If you’re totally lost and making no progress then watch his channel
>>7975497https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4-2HRHaHI
>>7975500You're the best Marc. I mean it.
>>7975427Alphonso Dunn. His YouTube channel and both books have taken me very far.
>>7975427>Glen VilppuHis stuff has probably helped me the most>Scott EatonFor the anatomy>Dorian ItenFor light and shadow
>>7975427Niggers and Pajeets of course
>>7975500kudos marc*bro fist*
Read the sticky idiot. Our glorious /ic/ shall not be tainted by the likes of you.
>>7975683nigger
why would i tell ugo find them urself
>>7975427My brother, let me give you a suggestion.Online there are good resources, watch no matter who almost.Keep track of your progress, check, in relatively quick pace you should see results( although of course with respect to how much time you input)That's all and good.But if you find even a lower caliber in person teacher, not sure where you are from in the world, but quick google search in your language will probably bring up those unknown in person teachers.No matter if in private or group setting, I believe you’ll see better results, of course depends on budget.zero budget, torrent shit, youtube, books. back in the day I picked up a lot of useful stuff from lets say gnomon workshop stuff.little budget, go out find teacher with group, might be silly but the low level of must casual learners , in person, will actually sicken you and will teach you faster.High budget? private lessons or the sort, but don’t know to recommend and have no experience with fyi
>>7975722Simpleton, For I am nowhere near that primitive race. For I am a superior human being. I have 100% aryan blood, blue eyes, white skin, and blond hair.
So, they don't teach you art. Get that through your head. They yeah you techniques that you can use in your art. Some of them have tools that already amount to a solid workflow if you wish to matter them as presented. HOWEVER you are the one who teaches yourself art. You decide which tools go into your toolbox and when they get used. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise
>>7975427Brent Eviston. They rest don't really teach, they just demonstrate.
>>7975427Mr.Johnson for History in the 7th grade. Though what's this got to do with art?
>>7975427the undisputed GOAT, Steven Michael HamptonI have nothing but respect and gratitude for the man
>>7975923Gets mogged by chad loomis
>>7975925>not learning from bothNGMI.
me
>>7975427Pau Rhoads from paultalk. He's been banned from youtube but his videos are still up online.Everyone else will just get you in perpetual tutorial and lesson hell and you will never learn anything and even more importantly, never actually make any art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhl5UZnt-ucSpeak of the devil
>>7975427>who are good teachers?>Vilppu4/5. Great teacher, but his raspy ass voice is hard to grasp sometimes.>Watts2/5. Yapper.>Proko4/5. He goes above and beyond compared to everyone else, but he's painfully unfunny and 30% of his videos happen to be him doing bits an awful jokes.>Steve Huston5/5. You're a lost cause if you can't learn from Huston.>Drawabox3/5. He has his heart in the right place but can't follow anything through even for his own life.>Peter Han3/5. He gets to the point and his classes are 0 bullshit, but he doesn't even bother explaining anything most of the time. His classes are "Do this, don't ask questions, it just works">Marshall Vandruff6/5. The perfect teacher; he's passionate, knows really good analogies, he has a radio host voice, and you can tell even from his lectures back in 1992 that he does love helping people learn.>Krenz6/5. The perfect chink; he's everything Peter Han tries to be but is incapable of.
/ic/ is lying to you
adding a few I've seen missed so far:Walt StanchfieldWayne GIlbert - Simplified Drawing for Planning Animation is an under-discussed goat.Richard Williams - insane he hasn't been posted yetScott McCloudEssential Anatomy 5 - $10 app that is better than any anatomy book.All the above require you to actually read a book and don't offer classes so I can see why ic has skipped them.
>>7975427Some random homeless man
>>7976499What about brent eviston and kim jung gi?
>>7976659both dead
>>7976664Ok, but that doesn't seem irrelevant to the question. A great teacher is still a great teacher even if he is dead. For example, Loomis.
>>7975427Its telling that not a single person saying which teacher helped them didn't post a single drawing
>>7975500he's given the same 5 tips for the past decade, his videos are just regurgitation of the small handful of things he knows, and his course is to this day still incomplete. Got lazy and became a money-making 'tuber rather than a teacher
>>7975834The one truth pill in the thread. The online resources are useful, but even the most basic tutor is going to fast track your gains faster than anything else.
>>7975427Saito Naoki is nice>>7975441Now you dont suggest Irshad
>>7976720Irshad is actually probably not that bad. We don't actually know if irshad is actually using his full power behind the process about most of the artworks. For all we know, he could be a very good artist. Besides, those are very old some artworks. Like probably a decade old. He could actually be a very professional artist in present day. His course is not even that bad, if you just follow it.
>>7976732Yeah, I actually agreed. The 250 boxes challenge isn't actually that bad as ic made it out to be. In fact it helped me to freehand in second and third perspective. The rigid requirements are nothing more than just recommendations. If you dont want to use printer paper, get a sketchbook instead.
craig mullins
>>7976732Why wouldn't an artist try to showcase their max power in at least one of their works to aspiring students to say, look, this is the skill teachjng you? To me it seems his strengths like squarely within the box (heh) of draftsmanship. Anything outside that and his art falls apart. Composition, coloring, light, they're all ass in everything he shows off on his site
>>7976732Professional artists keep their websites up to date as that's their portfolio that prospective clients browse. Irshad puts it pretty bluntly on his site that he shifted his priorities towards drawabox. It's safe to say his skill hasn't grown much if anything since he's focused more on the business side of his platform. Can you blame him? He's found more success with art than people far more skilled than him because he created an educational resource that grew into a platform that could provide sustainable income. Would drawabox have had the same amount of success if it popped up in these days? Absolutely not. By virtue of being one of the first, he reaped the rewards. If there's anything people should take away from Irshad's trajectory, it's that you don't need to be the best to be successful, often times, you just need to be first and good enough.
>>7976499yeah I agree with these. but haven't learned from Krenz yet.
>>7975441>uncomfortablewho is that
>>7977526the drawabox guy, Irshad Karim
