>Has drawn professionally for decades>Never advanced beyond high /int/ levelHow is that even possible?
>>7976453The way he draws is he makes rough little sketches and assistants blow them up and basically redraw/trace them on 11x17 for the comic board size. This is what leads to the weird looks on everything as he cant really adjust the proportions or see the mistakes on the small scale. He's basically doing what modern digital artists do with the zooming in super close for detail and then shrinking the images at end to give this uncanny digital look.
>>7976453Delivering the requested content on time is valued higher than artistic skillSure if you can do both, that's good, but considering a lot of online artists have months long waiting times on simple pinups.... I think a company is gonna trust the guy with a track record of doing his work on time. Even of everyone lowk think his stuff sucks. Maybe he's an alright guy to be around too.
>>7976453you should read into phenotypes. this guy reads as nonthreatening, but driven with a type a personality. he is essentially a stupid little brother that will do what you want when you want, aims to please, and wouldnt ask for a raise. he's a bit slimy but only to those beneath him, a useful idiot, a workhorse. of course they would hire someone like him over someone who is a bit better at art but harder to control, job first, skill later.
>>7976453>started off by tracing (that's fine, even Kirby did it)>traced and copied nothing but capeshit comic books, magazines of athletes, supermodels, bodybuilders, and action figures (bad)>doesn't study from life or study what he sucks at (feet, guns, skeletons, complex anatomy, etc)>doesn't have a big enough visual library outside of what he traces and copies (including his own work) so everything is repetitive Pay attention to how all of his male characters share the exact same facial features (his features, to be specific).
Godfeld
Okay then somebody ITT create a drawing right now from imagination that's at that level. Please, show us how easy it is.
Here, this is your subject. Make the pose dynamic, matter of fact if you want the full deal, illustrate an entire page.
Just one page guys, not even an entire chapter. Just a single page. Fuck it, one panel.
>>7976475You know just from looking at his picture, all of that sounds spot on. Where can I read more?
>>7976696>all the observable characteristics of an organism that result from the interaction of its genotype (total genetic inheritance) with the environment. Examples of observable characteristics include behaviour, biochemical properties, colour, shape, and size.pretty interesting stuffhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenotype
>>7976710Yes I know what the word means. I meant specifically the correlations between human facial structure and personality traits
>>7976453The intrinsic act of drawing for money in a job they were hired for makes them /pro/. They are in every sense of the word a professional. /ic/ never should have adopted /pro/ as a name for superior work; it should have been /adv/ and then what we call /adv/ now should have been named something else.
>muh timely reliable worker>implying there aren't 10000000 better artists who are also fast at shitting out drawingshe's a jew or friends with jewswhy are you coping so hard to justify why merit isn't a thing
>>7976453>How is that even possible?Become extremely successful while you're still a young budding artist. Nothing would stagnate you harder.>>7976530>doesn't study from life or study what he sucks at (feet, guns, skeletons, complex anatomy, etc)I listen to his podcast, and allegedly, according to himself, he has many sketchbooks filled with figure studies from life.Personally, while I'm not a fan of his art (he has a way of detailing his art that I find overworked and kinda gross looking), I think people are overly harsh on his art. Most of the people who screech the loudest about his work, can only draw overly cartoony characters with zero anatomy.
>>7976475thats pretty much why comics in america died. They wanted retards that were mid at art and would draw what they are told, meanwhile in japan you have dozens of life changing stories made by individual artists and editors every year since the 60s.
>>7976867>They wanted retards that were mid at art and would draw what they are toldWe're talking about Rob Liefeld? The guy who was chased away from DC because they were unhappy he made the artistic decision to draw his comics in landscape when the characters were in the chaos dimension?The guy who then left marvel because he wanted to make independent comics, and became the founder of Image comics? Is that the guy we're talking about, who only did what he was told?Just say you don't like capeshit and have yellow fever. Picture is very related.
>>7976875its not about the subject matter of the westoid comics but the business practices. Capeshit is what they wanted western comics to be so yes hating capeshit is also hating the entire western comics industry because thats what it was. >but there are good comicsnot the point. Good comics and good independent comics slip through but they're an exception, the system was trying to prevent that.
He got really popular really quick and was immediately the golden boy. He legitimately didn't need to be any better. Sometimes someone's just lucky like that.
>>7976875nta I don't like capeshit OR Japanese garbage shit.Give me that sweet, sweet semi-realism European trash.
>>7976877>but they're an exceptionI disagree. If you look at graphic novels, there's far more non-capeshit than there is capeshit.Hell, if we look at floppies, let's say three quarters of that IS capeshit... well, that's still a quarter of it that isn't capeshit (ironically, and on topic, Image comics seems to be the biggest publisher of non-capshit floppies, and that company was started by Rob Liefeld).This is only if we're looking at the american market, because there's a tonne of european comics that are made and just aren't brought over that are being overlooked as well.Hell, even if you ARE right, so what? The majority of any medium is shit, and the mainstream is usually homogeneous popular crap. Why on earth are you skimming the surface and judging the medium and the scene by that? Should I say music is shit because of what's on the radio? Do YOU only listen to what's played on the radio? Why are you treating western comics the same way?Picrel is a quick screengrab of new graphic novel releases, with the capeshit circled in red, and asian stuff circled in green, excuse me if I missed one or miscounted, but look at all that remains!... well, admittedly, it looks mostly shit, and kiddy shit at that, but there were a couple I thought might be interesting in there. I'm also sure that's not really a complete list of everything released, especially if we were to dive into real indies, and not just self proclaimed 'indies'.I suppose the thing I always want to ask people who are adamant that western comics are all capeshit and are bad is; when was the last time you actually read some western comics?I read a load of manga myself, but there's always western comics that grab my attention as well. There's so much great shit out there, and constantly coming out, it just surprises me that people are so adamant that the industry has nothing to offer a reader.
>>7976453Being successful in any industry is dependant on connections as much as (or often even more than) skill
>>7977150He came from a poor family, no education, and was successful with basically his first big job. He had no means of making those connections.It's not that you're wrong, but you're wrong in this particular case.
>>7976475that's actually opposite to his career considering he founded one of the big alternative comic labels and got into a lot of shit with both marvel, dc and was also hated by the old school guys, if anything its the fact that he didn't give a shit about even being good at drawing that lead to his stuff hitting like crack in the 90s as it was the edgiest and most ridiculous thing in comics yet
>>7977150saying that is just as naive as saying connections don't matter at all. there are industries, yes even in comics, where you aren't dependant on connections at all. at the end of the day, what matters is whether or not an audience is willing to pay for your work. and, as much as they'd like to, nobody can make someone buy comics. if your work's a flop then your work's a flop, connections or none. and the flipside applies too.
>>7976453That's just the American comic industry standard.
>>7977582>The guy is constantly mocked as a poor artist>"That's just the American comic industry standard."
>>7976453Because he's actually good? No one cares if he made a weird possibility or a small foot when the rest of it is good.
