Anyone else feels like sharing your art with other artists is mostly a jerk off session? We all pat each other backs but at the end of the day it doesn't give us jobs, followers or anything of tangible value. Posting in all the draw threads started feeling like a gigantic waste of time, because at the end of the day it's the fan, the consumer that counts, their opinion, not some /beg/ who thinks bad art is soulful.
>>7979020>I don't get money from my art therefore it's useless.Ever heard of passion and fun anon.
>>7979027Soul>>7979020Soulless
>>7979020>Having a group of like-minded people to share things with is like a jerk off sessionI don't think I want to know what you do with your IRL friends...
>>7979039You'll probably go into septic shock when you realize there's a term called mental masturbation
>>7979020Good post, OP. Upvoted
>>7979042Why would I care about that? That's what I do since I don't watch porn
>>7979020nigga i just wanna make like minded friends to look at my cave drawings and go “grug make good cow picture.” then we play video games and talk about comic books, shut the fuck up about your dipshit ass “le consoomer” bull shit, gay ass nigga
>>7979020Don't interact with other artists ,don't call yourself an artist, problem solved
>>7979020I agree with your perspective, generally speaking its not worth the effort to try and prospect endlessly for that one or two actually useful or nurturing exchanges in like 90% of the threads going on in /ic/ at any given time, you could try to abide by the 'dont feed the crabs, trolls, permabeg shitters' notice but thatd still barely give you any measurable results.One possible practical solution to this entire predicament is simply to take the route of streaming your art or process under some brand or persona, because that way you tackle 2 things at a time; on the one hand you skip the /beg/ crit step and take it straight to a 'fan' or 'observer', perhaps a potential patron although thatd mostly depend on the effectiveness of your approach/strategy. This of course brings with itself the troubling caveat (to some) of having to deal with parasocial interactions or trolls disguised as backers looking to fuck you over with chargebacks/doxxing(if you are sloppy) and other equally nasty ploys but there are tools and also your very own set of rules that can help with that. Simultaneously to what I described above, if you choose to engage in doing targeted fanart and @ing artists(preferably artists whose aesthetics you like and/or share and that you gauge to be at your level or even far above you as some kind of endearing tribute) you'd ultimately bolster your 'network' which in turn could translate into growth, which could again potentially lead to higher exposure>your own booru?>shout outs>commissions>etc..please bear in mind that this is all my own autismo-schizo-visualization of a scenario that plays in my head but that may very realistically also lead nowhere, which unironically would loop us back to the nihilistic understructure behind the central theme or question of your thread, the inherent pointlessness of sharing one's art with other artists.Thank you for your time, heres a (you) for your troubles.
you dont like jerikng off?
>>7979020You have the same bullshit mentality that fucking students in art school fucking have that drove me fucking nuts. It was always the same fucking song and dance of>you gotta make connections>memorize the names of everyone you can possibly meet>you never know who might hire you/lead a project>you always gotta be an opportunistic fuck and make sure every moment of your life gets some form of monetary valueblah blah blah that fucking mentality will fucking kill you on the inside. I met an art firend in college recently after not seeing him for years and he didnt land me a job but you know what we did? We got together and ate some food, caught up with whats going on with our lives, what projects we have going on and gave feedback, and just had a good fucking time like actual fucking friends do. The economy is fucking going in the gutter and not even basic bitch ass jobs like McDonalds are hiring people. Stop fucking thinking like its a fucking rat race to the top and make a fucking friend you nonce
>>7979163>The economy is fucking going in the gutter and not even basic bitch ass jobs like McDonalds are hiring people. Stop fucking thinking like its a fucking rat race to the top and make a fucking friend you nonceTwo contradictory statements. Because everything is going to shit, that's exactly the time where you have to get to the top before the plebs truly sink.
>>7979020sounds more like an autism problem rather than an artist problem
>>7979167>I'D KILL A THOUSAND /BEGS/ BEFORE I LET MY DREAMS DIEUnless you got dick sucking lips rich people dont put up with idiots either. If you wanna win the rat race just make fucking furry porn and fuck off
>>7979020be the change you want to see in the worldOnly compliment someone when you mean itdo not give compliments back "as a thanks" in fact dont even thank people, if they were just saying the truth there was nothing to be thankful for be unabashedly critical, doesn’t even have to be constructive, when you think something sucks say it
>>7979178And what do those compliments give you nigga? What? Butterflies in your belly? At some point you realize all of this shit is nothing
>>7979199an objective assessment about your art, if you were the based capitalist you claim to be you would understand honest feedback brings you closer to attaining the quality necessary to secure money
>>7979020If you're trying to actually make a living off your art and you unironically browse /ic/ you're genuinely, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart in every sense of the word, retarded. Go find channels that actually connect you with your audience or other artists actively trying to make money off their art. This board should only be used for resources. Everything else is a complete waste of time. If you're /int/ or higher and trying to make money with your art you shouldn't be here sharing your art to stroke your ego unless it part of some greater plan to expose people to you work through some retarded guerilla marketing or trying to network.
>>7979027Bodied that freak
OP is right.Artists are some of the most repulsive people in existence, slightly worse than the general public. Anything you do with art outside of your private sphere should be about selling your work.
>>7979020>or anything of tangible valueHow sad... If that's what you think drawing should only do....
>>7979027Notice how OP is afraid to confront someone who draws for fun?
>>7979020who drew the OP pic
>>7979020It depends on the artists you’re sharing it with and the quality of the feedback you’re receiving.Most artist communities (like on r*ddit for example) are very hugboxy and the enforced niceness is actively harmful. But I think you can rely on /ic/ to give you harsh criticism if it’s warranted.Either way sharing your work with non-artists is vital, because they’re always going to have a different perspective than artists.
It's called social interaction but it just so happens there's artists here. >because at the end of the day it's the fanThe fan that hits <3 looks at your art for 2 seconds and moves along? >their opiniontheir opinion amounted to 15 new artworks in their likes in the 30 second span they liked your art. Oh, and maybe the "cunny cunny cunny cunny licky licky" comment if you're a peadophile. >not some /beg/ who thinks bad art is soulfulThat doesn't matter.
The ones who will truly appreciate your work and prolly actually look at it for a bit are other artists. The average user does not give a blue fuck about art that isn't about something that's trending/they already like.>it's the consumer that countsWrong hobby.
>>7979020>we all pat eachother on the backI don't pat backs
>>7979020imagine thinking bad art isn't soulful
>>7979020>it's the fan, the consumer that counts, their opinion, not some /beg/ who thinks bad art is soulful.do you fucking realize 90% of art consumers are permaprebeg nodraws?
>>7979027soul
>>7979020Most people are just here because they aren't good enough yet to make money with art.
>>7979020Sharing art with others is normal, but you probably mean sharing it with other artists. I don't care what other artists think of my art so I agree with you. I want normal people to appreciate my art.
>>7979020All the artists I share with are either better than me and have given me great advice on how to improve or worse than me and seeking advice on how to improve (of which I do my best to provide). Maybe find better circles.
Yes. Thats why I like to talk about the technical things instead. Seeing how other artists work and what they consider when making things is far more useful than observing their work carefully.This is what the various artists organizations of the early 20th century were for.
>>7979020the worst part for me was feeling compelled to keep up a lame internet persona because otherwise I wouldn't know how the fuck to relateI think that's how people become braindead redditors, if you buy too much into the internet act you become the maskit's so tiresome
>>7979020Yes. Yes. Artists dislike other artists the most lol
>>7984512it's fun though>>7979020i'll take any criticism, as long as it makes sense. i can ignore it if it's a troll. and hey, positive response helps too! it's motivating!
>>7979020but i dont want a job or followers. I want to be jerked off!
I like mingling with other skilled artists because they're generally very humble people. You have to be humble to some degree to be really good at art
I do hope that you find a cure OP
>>7979240Looks like Kinu Nishimura, lead artist for a lot of Capcom fighting games
Interacting with other like-minded artists is good for the creative soul. The nascent genius that strove in solitude to emerge from his pupa with a fully formed artistic statement is not a real thing. Or it's so rare as to essentially be a lie. Sad as it is I like having a den of degenerates to show my dumb scribbles to and I know you guys understand the struggle it took to get to that level even if it's not a real hardship in the grand scheme of things. It's nice to be struggling with you guys.
>>7979026this but unironically.>>7979020>Anyone else feels like sharing your art with other artists is mostly a jerk off session?yes and just like irl, I jerk off alone, I have no friends and I get half as many reactions than I spend hours on my drawings.
>artists now are opportunistic as fuck and only want to network and get numbers>this is also due social media turning art into fleeting slop where the consumer has to be instantly wowed and amazed so he can comm artists for porn>you share art or drawings that are made for fun and aren't some flavor of porn or the ultimate peak of artistry at every single upload; you make ""art enjoyers"" uppity and artists trying to "own you">can't even share scribbles and doodles for fun because "no fun allowed" everywhere and everything must be "content" for the sensible normalcattle>add the modern cancer mentality where everything becomes an excuse to incessantly trying to insult people for even breathing and the senseless contrarianism Most "artists" are normies and most art consumers are even bigger normies.If you are genuinely normal and are not playing the ""business"" game where you throw out compliments like a sociopath in heat just to get attention and you do not play ball with the lunatics, you genuinely do not belong anywhere nowadays, not even in your own hobby.What's the fix? Let it rot away like everything in the world right now.
>>7979020I'm more curious on what brush this was, unless this was done traditionally. After doing some inking on traditional paper, I can never find a brush on CSP that even remotely mimics traditional inking.
>>7979020I just enjoy sharing and discussing my hobbies with other people.
>>7979020It is but it's kind of just a fact of all hobbies that people want reassurement and encouragement. So what about it?
>>7979020The more I draw the more I realize how pointless it is. There's no point to drawing in todays world anymore so why even bother?
>>7990505Doing something pointless is a revolutionary act in a world where the average normalfag is blindly scurrying around the maze at the behest of his jew overlords
