Do you start with an idea in your head of what you want to draw? Or do you come up with ideas from scribbles? Or look at references from the start?
>>7982853If you have to ask its already over
Talentfags, where are yoooouuu?
not sure about being a talentfag, but i’m like a mullins in that i regularly start in a new way with a new premises whenever i start out. this is fine, and it helps me learn a lot more holistically, but having a core process would be helpful if you have to make quota with consistent quality under serious time constraints.only consistent thing is i never use references when doing the sketch, only if i need a material reference or for minor corrections later like doing a quick study or two to the side on just how the elbow should be rendered when the arm is bent at this random angle, or experimentation on how i want to stylize rough ripped denim in harsh angled lighting.i guess the other ideating constant is i always go in with a general idea of what i want the subject to be, but that’s it. sometimes you might start with a flowing line, or shapes, an unexpected perspective space, or just start drawing, or think of an interesting comp scenery and work it and the figures into the scene, actively interacting with their surroundings, i dunno. just whatever. i really want to push the emotive choreography as far as i can every time, and pretty much always draw at least two characters interacting in a frame, so this requires a ton of redrawing the staging and poses very quickly, making the relation between the characters and their enviros more and more immersive/interesting each time. the more time i have on a drawing the more i might do with it. if i don’t have much i might just drop it and do something new that has a cooler initial idea, as if the first were just to get the brain moving. same with dynamism in the poses. the first passes or scenes are stiffer and safer, i start pushing the perspective and everything further when i stick with it. /tldr stream of consciousness since no one’s answering
>>7982853The source of your ideas doesn’t really have much to do with drawing talent per se. Creativity and taste are orthogonal to mechanical skill.
>>7983113yes, that's true, i value creativity above skill myself.But i'm still interested to know how does an artist (that's not trying to learn) settle on his/her idea to draw? I would imagine the idea would originate in the head first, but i also heard from someone that they can only think while they're moving pen on paper. And then there are others that insist on using reference all the time?
>>7982853the drawing reminds me of my earlier drawings
>>7982853Idea in my head and then I draw until it matches the feeling, but sometimes I will draw it and realize it was only good as an idea. If it's something that can be easily referenced like a figure I usually take a picture of myself as reference or if it's a landscape I will look up the trees/grass or whatever I want to put in it. I think the important thing for me is reference when drawing details because your mental image of what bark looks like or how muscles will deform under load is often wrong unless it's something you draw often.
>>7983149I literally imagine shit all day. On runs, in the car, when my wife is talking. It's like a movie that's playing constantly. Sometimes I get the urge to draw something specific.
>>7982853I have anti-talent so I have to build the idea from scratch and try to dsicover the good drawing with hours of work.
>>7982853the first two>start with a rough idea>finish it or if i'm not sure i scribble and try out stuff>keep thinking about what would make sense or add new ideasi never look a references during the drawings and most of what i draw is purely memory/imaginationI'd pmw but we all know what this thread isI totally gobbled up the bait and replied, wow say your insult, OP
>>7983366I only ever hear voices in my head. Can people really see images in their head? I suppose I do when I sleep, but even when your eyes are open? You probably lying shouldn't do that in the car...If i close my eyes, I can picture things I've seen recently, but I can't make them move or anything crazy like in the dream. That's awesome that you can do that, so talent does exist.>>7983386I try to do that too, but never succeed>>7983400It's not a bait thread, I'm on a mission to draw from imagination, so I want to know how it's done rightI'm sure that you're much better than you give yourself credit for. But if you don't want to pyw then that's fine. Thank you for insight into your workprocess, that's what I needed
>>7983400the left one has its own appeal too
>>7983364Yeah, makes sense. I would imagine people used references for detail, but I've also heard of people starting from references and then expanding on the idea>>7983325Whoa, that's so close to my drawing, but yours is much better and dynamic (love the ribbon too)
>>7983415>so closei drew after what you drewi meant the style reminded me of mine years ago, the linework
>>7983406I didn't mean to say "lying", where did that come from? Lol
>>7983406>Can people really see images in their head?Yes. It's my dominant way of thinking. When I read books I am sorta slow because I imagine everything. That's why I prefer a writer like tolkien because he has such vivid descriptions of landscapes and such. I don't like authors like William Gibson because they offload literally all of the imaginative heavy lifting onto the reader. Or it's not so much that I don't like him, his books are just exhausting to read because I have to invent everything. Otherwise I can't retain the information well.>shouldn't do that in the carI'm conscious of what's going on around me. I wouldn't be able to have an in-depth conversation depending on how deeply I'm daydreaming, but if I'm on the highway or something I can do both.
>>7983415>I've also heard of people starting from references and then expandingYeah there's nothing wrong with this. I think if I traced all the things I imagine they would all lead back to an experience or image. Like when I was a kid I used to daydream about a world similar to Dragon Ball Z but with altered characters and storylines. Consuming lots of good art is probably a really good practice for creativity.
How can I tell if I have talent I don’t want to waste time trying to draw if I don’t have any.
>>7983433Can you draw somewhat accurately from reference? If so I'd say you have "talent." If not, give it 6 months of drsotb exercises. If you drastically improve, keep going. But talent is a strange term because lots of people are absolutely abhorrent at drawing but they develop an interesting symbolic style that people like for one reason or another. So there are multiple pathways even if you suck, you just need to be persistent and curious enough to find your path.
>>7983431Interesting, maybe I should start reading books again
>>7983435>Can you draw somewhat accurately from reference?Yes, but I have no talent, I can't draw anything.
Threads like these aren't your best use for your access to talented people, right?
>>7982853Just go to bathroom, take a dump, or sit in your toilet, eventually you'll think of something
>>7983325You'll never be Japanese
>>7983893And, you'll never be anything other than a pathetic nigger.
>>7983443But if you can draw from reference you can draw something
>>7983905reference is a clutch
>>7983905No.
>>7983893so whatim a korean anyways
>>7982853
>>7983406>so I want to know how it's done rightyou literally have to just imagine the dogalso use any excuse to drawand it doesn't matter if it sucks because you need to regularly suck and get the bad drawings out, as if almost cleaning your inner imagination room so your next drawing from imagination will suck lessif you don't have a vivid imagination by default, almost bordering to daydreaming schizophrenia where you can trigger entire chains and strings of ideas and stories inside your head, don't bother trying to magically learn to do that in a single week because it's something you're genuinely born with or you can learn by forcing yourself to use critical thinking and pattern recognition (which is the ultimate sin for a normie since it leads them to suicide)
i really like the design
A bit of random scribbling at first,then trying to figure out what it is I am drawing. But if I know what I am intending to draw, like a character, the random bits manifest in expression and pose. When composing a comc, like this one, I would have a vague idea, then let the random art dictate the plot somewhat, a case of Inventing reasons behind the actions portrayed.
necroing for zero reason
>>7982853For me, I have loads of ideas in my head that I want to draw. I'm constantly thinking of dumb stuff that could be turned into a drawing, be it a spur-of-the-moment idea for a pose, a mini comic, some story, etc. I have no shortage of ideas, basically. For example this piece was something that I just thought up randomly and decided to turn into a drawing.t. talentfag
>>7982853Both? Some of my better drawings are impromptu though
my method resembles those ink plot pictures since my head is usually empty the moment i start drawingit just happens if it wants to happen
