Yeah it happens. We all act gay sometimes. You just gotta catch yourself being gay and be like "damn, im feeling somewhat homosexual and I do NOT like it" and then stop

>>7983612
I stopped feeling envious when I realized that there are a bunch of artists who are several times worse than me despite spending as much time drawing as I do.

That's how I look at things. I might not be the best, but someone has it worse than I do, so I shouldn't get hung up over what I don't have.

>>7983643
So I'm not especially retarded and childish for feeling this way? I think that's what I really need to hear. I just feel so GROSS.

>>7983648
Wise.

>>7983612
I'm out of the loop but 99.9% of artists drew better than me but they also drew fucking godawful garbage in one way or the other. I could only be envious of someone who draws the shit I like to draw better than me.

i stopped being envious of people after high school

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>>7983612
>How do you deal with envy?
By being rich and affording anything I fucking want.

There are people who can draw better than me? Ok so what?
That just means I have more time to drive around in a sports car or go clubbing while they're chained to a desk.

>>7983612
We're exposed to way too many people learning art. Our brains can handle a couple people close to us improving better. The competition is usually rewarding, but sometimes we can't mentally process being able to summon the exact progress timelines of thousands of wunderkinds at a few clicks.

>>7983612
I live with the envy and make it my own. Envy is the fuel that makes me practice more. I see one of my favorites artists make something amazing and I think "FUCK I WANNA DRAW SOMETHING LIKE THAT I GONNA KEEP PRACTICING FUCK FUCK"

>>7983612
focus on your own stuff

>>7983612
there is no artist in the world who can make exactly what i dream of making
until then, i gotta grind

>>7983612
luckily art is less cutthroat than sports so it doesnt matter

>>7983643
TRVKE

>>7983612
whenever i see art that i like i just steal aspects from it. other artists do this too. really its hard to feel envy once you reach a certain point cause you just go "cool I'll do that too." art is inherently collaborative communication

>>7983612
>It feels like everyone improves faster than me
You didn't see me! Anyway, I feel the same, envy included.

>>7983612
Getting older helps.

>>7983612
I think you underestimate the amount of time and effort which goes into this.
People who are really good usually are this way because they basically made it their life mission and did it everyday since years.

I genuinely never feel envy. I really struggle to understand conversations about how social media makes everyone feel bad about themselves or models make girls hate their bodies. I care so little about what other people are doing that I can at most think "oh, I should do that" if it's something that's financially an option. What the fuck is even envy? Just do things. Nothing matters.

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>>7984034
>I genuinely never feel envy. I really struggle to understand conversations about how social media makes everyone feel bad about themselves or models make girls hate their bodies.
I call it "Superman syndrome". If you saw someone who was naturally gifted and capable of extreme feats, you would wish you had their talent for your own use.
However, as Syndrome proved in The Incredibles, not being naturally talented or strong as other people doesn't mean you can't think or do something else that's equally impressive.

Instead of being the best artist just be the guy who can always meet deadlines. Many artists who've called themselves "great" have been very lazy when they deal with clients.

>>7984034
I don't feel envy towards others but I definitely have body dysmorphia and also I'm always frustrated that I'm not a better artist. Maybe I'm envious of the version of me I imagine. But even when I improve dramatically or get complements about my physique it never lands.

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I'm not upset people are better at things than me, it is what it is. But it does kind of feel like shit when god-tier artists post their god-tier drawings alongside photos of outings with friends, gushing about their loving partners, screenshots of funny conversations with family, expensive purchases they're excited about. I don't know. I don't care about normies doing it nor have I ever aspired to full-on normalfaggotry, but when it's artists, it always makes me imagine an alternate timeline where I have something resembling a support system and I'm not a permanently brainfucked, mentally ill retard stuck rotting in the same toxic environment for close to 30 years, forced to jump through flaming hoops for every single little thing I want to do while others just walk. I'm doing my best where I can, but there's only so much it can amount to.

>>7983612
Bro, bro... *Smacks lips*... Its just a learning curve, i still struggle with lightning and shadows, and a bit with perspective, but i blazed through hands - the thing almost everyone says i the hardest... Also i kinda struggle with feet... BLYA-

>>7984200
>But it does kind of feel like shit when god-tier artists post their god-tier drawings alongside photos of outings with friends, gushing about their loving partners, screenshots of funny conversations with family, expensive purchases they're excited about.
I don't see what any of those things have to do with being an artist? You mostly just described having a family and friends.
If you really want a quick solution then why not just join a Church or any other religious group and meet people? And I say this as an Atheist.
You don't need to be a god-tier artist to have a wife, is what I'm saying.

>>7984242
>I don't see what any of those things have to do with being an artist?
Unless you're some kind of extreme psychological outlier, not being stuck struggling alone at rock bottom will naturally lend itself to more time, energy, willpower and inspiration for creative pursuits. I don't want to go into my life story here but I'm sure it's something a lot of anons can relate to. Maybe I'm just delusional and coping and would've never had the potential to make it even in the best of circumstances, but it sucks to have never even had an opportunity to see.

>>7984242
>just hang out with letztermensch cattle bro

>>7984251
>Unless you're some kind of extreme psychological outlier, not being stuck struggling alone at rock bottom will naturally lend itself to more time, energy, willpower and inspiration for creative pursuits.

Your logic still doesn't hold up. Why does the existence of a wife or friend mean you stop working?
Do you think most married couples are unemployed for example?
It's either that or you refuse to give yourself breaks or a vacation. But the same thing applies to Doctors, Chefs, and hell, even people in the Army who are addicted to their job. Art isn't any different.

>>7984277
You got it in reverse. Most artists aren't rockstars but are closer to outcasts or poverty.
For every Michael Jackson there's thousands of artists that nobody cares about or will even meet.

>>7984373
Sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about or how it relates to my post.

>>7984377
Yeah, cause your post is fucking stupid.
Enjoy being alone I guess.

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>>7984391
Thanks and congratulations on missing the point so hard you made an even stupider one.

>>7983612
The envy itself isn’t a big deal for me. It’s more just the fear of wondering if I’ll ever be able to accomplish my goals at all; if other people are moving at X speed and I’m only moving at half of that (or much less lol), then maybe I’m too retarded to ever make it to the finish line. But as long as I can actually achieve my own goals then I’m fine. If I’m good enough by my own standards then I don’t care if there are people out there who are even better.

>>7984399
The point you're retarded? We know anon.

>>7983612
I want to fuck the shit out of that cute cat and have a whole litter of kittens with her, sauce?

>>7983612
It is normal for the untalented to feel envy. Just ride it out.

>>7983612
You mute other people that makes you feel that
It's normal

>>7984459
Yeah I’m not a furry at all but that is one cute cat

>>7983612
You MUTE them to oblivion maybe even block but be careful you risk a melty of "why do they have me blocked?;?!??!?"
Find the ones who genuinely inspire and motivate. In my case these are mostly professionals. And those who actually draw a lot, that way I know they got to where they are through hard work

>>7983612

remember that people tend to only post their successes online. unless you're a deviantart autist, most people won't share every single little doodle they made. and if they do, it's a careful curation of doodles that look good, even if rough.

the only way to get gud is to try many different things, and your progress will be slow and gradual. i'm actually surprised that i can make anything at all because ten years ago i was wallowing in despair. i still can't do everything i want to be able to do, but i found a niche that worked for me.

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Not OP, but is my mind playing tricks on me or I'm not that far off the skills of the one mutual that pushed me to improve my own art unironically by now?
Bottom row are some of his pieces from his peak period late 2024/early 2025 before he simplified his style, top row is my recent art (and a fully digitally done piece from last year on the left)

>>7984750
if you have them blocked you can't see their melty

Accepting things.

There will always be someone better than you, and that’s okay. In fact, I admire those who are better than I am; they set a new standard for me a new challenge to improve myself.

Perhaps you should enjoy the process more.

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>>7983612

>>7984200
Leading a normal life beyond one's hobbies requires an overall balance.

And not everything you see on social media reflects reality; it often masks the pain, suffering, and struggle those artists endured to become who they are.

I won’t lie to you: sometimes you don’t get what you want, but rather what you need—or what you’ve earned after years of hard work. Sometimes, you have to reflect on whether these outcomes are the result of your own decisions.

I don't care except when the other artist is also a third worlder. Crabby envy

>>7984459
>>7984489
the cat is a tranny, (artist is Remy Boydell who is a tranny)

>>7985015
nta, i cant live a normal life, i can take working part time (if i had to work full time i might not take it), driving a car and buying groceries but normal things like buying a house, children or even having a relationship are not gonna happen for me, i am not even well-endowed for some slut to endure my mental illness for the sex

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practice this weekend bitch, Friday Eve

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>>7983612
My hatred for everything has gone so deep and rampant that it smashes and destroys any negative emotion that I might have other than that.
I cannot feel envy, only hate, and I use that hate as fuel to keep going and trying harder.

>>7983683
No matter other anons skills, you are the only one who can make your art. If you don't make it, then the universe loses it forever.

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>>7984817
I think you still have a ways to go anon, however you do have a lot going for you. You've done a good job at matching a similar gray / hatching style, but the bottom pieces show a much clearer / deeper understanding of form.

Your pieces DO show a good grasp on form. I really like the shoulders of the wolf girl (2nd from upper left). Great job there. But, on the hands and feet of the wolf girl (and the guy in the piece to the right of it), while you DO show form, you don't have a full grasping of how each part goes together.

It's still something I'm trying to grasp in my own work. The best illustrators know how every inch of their form contours and connects. You know your basic forms, it's time to delve into making them more refined and knowing them on a deeper level.

My work attached to beat the crab allegations.

>>7983612
Mine is part of the personality disorder I inherited from my father (NPD). Sadly there's nothing I can do about the thoughts except ignore them. The worst is during moments of weakness when I start to identify with them. So I guess just don't identify with your petty thoughts if they come up. Always remember they are just thoughts and they're not yours unless you make them yours

>>7984200
>But it does kind of feel like shit when god-tier artists post their god-tier drawings alongside photos of outings with friends, gushing about their loving partners, screenshots of funny conversations with family, expensive purchases they're excited about.
Yeah anon it's called being wealthy (and sometimes pretending to be because it's the internet)
People insist wealth doesn't matter but it's pretty much playing life on easy mode
Example I loved music but I could only afford a shitty guitar and no guitar lessons
the rich kids went to lessons and bought a $2000 guitar which sounded a lot better
they would play in a band
I would play in a band but it was obviously more due to being friends with people than because I was a good guitarist
the rich kids also got a nice car as soon as they could drive and they would drive girls around
this kind of stuff when you're still in school and you can't work or set money aside because you're underage means that not being rich closes doors
I'm not even saying this with envy it's just how life works
If you're not rich you will also never have real career opportunities because the people who truly get ahead have families who can pull the strings
being born poor is like having an arm missing especially in this era where your worth as a human being is directly proportional to your wealth and people aren't even pretending that's not what it is

>>7985713
>>7984200
i can agree with both of these posts and i'll also say my envy evaporates into resignation when i learn they're rich. oh yeah 19 year old from califorina i'm sure you organically were able to go live in nyc on your own. no help from your parents. yes yes yes

>>7985250
You can’t prove that, so I’m free to imagine she’s a natural born XX

>>7985724
it was funny when I learned about a kid from a rich family who went wayside with drugs, got arrested a couple times
family cleaned him up and got him a nice job, he's "such a good boy" now. fucking upstanding citizen
if that happened to me I would've had to kill myself, smeared forever, waste of society
money washes it all away. another kid pretty much dropped out of school and didn't give a fuck, played videogames all day
family kept pumping money and in the end he got a degree and a job
I studied but I never got a degree because I fell sick and I didn't want to put my family in distress
it's like... this is money, you can't do anything about it. I wish I knew how important it was from the get go instead of believing that other things mattered
the kids who fail and have money get back on track, now the diligent kids who have money AND aren't complete shitheads are the ones who succeed
there's not a lot you can do unless you're a pretty girl, that's the only kind of social mobility left

>>7985741
>there's not a lot you can do unless you're a pretty girl, that's the only kind of social mobility left
this is cope and poor pretty girls have it especially bad because they end up raped or otherwise used up by old bums. nothing will protect you from poverty but a strong mind and an insane work ethic, and even that's bound to fail if you slip up even a little bit

>>7985745
>this is cope and poor pretty girls have it especially bad because they end up raped
you watch too many movies

>>7985746
no, i just grew up in a very poor area and saw every pretty girl that wasn't smart enough to go away to uni get stuck there via babies or worse. you however are likely reading /r9k/ too much

>>7985753
where the fuck did I say that every pretty girl automatically becomes rich? of course if you're retarded you're going to get fucked,
those who are smart can make the jump. all girls are whores so they can just become escorts and make money that a man would never even dream of. I've seen it, they do it. They won't tell you of course. Once they're dressed in Prada from head to toe they're not filthy whores anymore

>>7985763
it's 2026 and some of the richest men in the world are homosexual. you can easily become an escort and do what a desperate woman now. shave yourself and go show hole on OF. you obviously see that as a desirable or enviable path to take
better yet shoot up some hrt and troon, you'll make $$$ everybody luvs dickgirls

>>7985768
>some of the richest men in the world are homosexual
actually pedos but why are you jumping to the 0.001% all of a sudden
you don't have to get into epstein land to see the social gap between the rich and the poor and the average rich guy 30-50 is a massive whoregoer. I thought you grew up in poverty instead of learning shit from movies?
>you can easily become an escort
no I can't because I'm not a woman? a woman is naturally wired to sell her cunt, why do you think it's full of whores while fags just bugger each other for free at the gay bar?
I think you're seething and full of shit anon but I'm just dropping the truth IDGAF