I traced this to try and get used to using a screenless tablet. So what do you think? Am I getting the hang of this?
Yeah pretty much, not a bad start
>>7983759Thank you <3
>>7983757Now draw it without tracing
>>7983757Just stop being poor and get a display tablet. It's a better experience in every way
>>7983939except ergonomically
>>7983973Let me be a little autistic here:Almost all keyboards are in the standard form of ISO or ANSI, the primary difference being the keys on the right side of the keyboard (read: the weird inverted L enter.)The standard keyboard layouts generally used by most people (QWERTY, QWERTZ, AZERTY, etc.) are genuinely terrible as they were designed around being like QWERTY and QWERTY was designed around a mechanical device with locking problems. However, in effective ergonomic fashion, all of these are highly optimized for regularity, people expect qwerty, people expect ANSI (most common) or ISO layouts. This is cheap, and doesn't touch peoples habits in any way.Ergonomically, this is bad, not terrible, but bad. Laptops compound this problem by tightening space and thus constraining your hands heavily. Elevation doesn't help, and tented boards often imply more pressure on the wrist.Ergonomically, the only viable device would be a very narrow set of keyboards that would range in the 300-1000 dollar range. i.e. Maltron type keyboards, the Svalboard/Datahand, split keyboard with padding, this is a nonextensive list. (See Xah Lee on the topic)When it comes to layout, specialty boards like the Maltron have the Maltron layout, which is favorable for English. However, overall, A layout like Workman is QWERTY generally cured of its illness and other highly available general improvements like Colemak, or Dvorak retain a huge leg up in ease.When looking into ergonomics, you must consider yourself exclusively, down to every microscopic quality of the device, and you should be able and willing to make adjustments as needed.This is obviously not preferable. Ideally a clothing manufacturer would make one kind of garb for every possible person at a tremendous speed and for almost nothing. Which is exactly how keyboards are made.dunno about tablets, they seem fine, surely you could 3d print some custom housing and not kill yourself probably.
>>7983973What? I’ve never had any ergonomics issues with the Cintiq at all. You could also get an iPad or Movink if you’d prefer something with that form factor
>>7983829Literally impossible. >>7983939I already got one. I would rather look at my monitor than a display tablet. You are poor in spirit.
I traced another one! That one was a lot harder to do. All of the curves are surprisingly difficult on this screenless tablet. Plus the tablet itself is like the smallest one they had. I have been told I should get at least a medium sized one. Ah well.
>>7984013Thanks for the info. I guess I'm having trouble understanding the core of what you're saying though. What I mean is, what is it specifically that makes keyboards not ergonomic?
Last one! I think I have an adequate grasp on the tablet now, at least to get started with.Thanks for reading my blog.See you in /beg/!
>>7985313It depends on the individual, and depends on extremes of the person's physicality and environment, that being how the person is exposed and their keeb.Most keyboards are optimized for price, and something like that will have millions and millions of instances, and in those edgecases they're generally more harmful.Hardware over software, but, in people with some irreparable damage, may come out with worse longterm outcomes on weaker parts of the hand like your pinky.Think about it like a tablet being used for a decade and accumulating damage. Of course a tablet can be replaced, and can't really repair itself, but your hands are the anti to this, self repairing somewhat, and generally irreplaceable.People tend to approach a lot of things with the mindset of fast fashion, where they can't actually tell something that'll last even a single wash from something that they could wear for 20 years with cheap repairs.An example, pay attention to your wrist movement. When you press backspace how does your wrist change? How does that effect your fingers in a hundred or thousand mistakes?For only a thousand over a year, that's not harmful at all, but for someone doing ten thousand every other day, it's obvious.Ergonomics isn't about ease of use, it's about longterm small impacts. The slight pain that becomes damage.For tablets, they seem generally fine, I've been using a tablet with a screen mirroring setup and it works well. I guess I'll have to see in 10000 undos :0Note: I've taken a lot of this from personal experience and advice from "THE" ergonomic keyboard man Xah Lee. I would highly recommend him and his site on this topic further, though please do pass him through a slight autistic retard filter.He helped me alot with this stuff. I went from painful strained hands to normal hands in a year, though I did slow down a lot, and I'm still considering whether to buy something more ergonomic, i.e. multi-layout thumb-oriented split.> tl;dr long time scales
>>7984029Having to look down at what your drawing instead looking straight makes you bunch your back. If you use desk arm, then your arm will be floating, thereby hurting your shoulder and your body will compensate by twistingTrust me, I have a display tablet and I don't use it because I'm getting old
>>7985634Autocorrect messed up couple of words. Darn phones these days
>>7983757>traceHi Subu Jr.
>>7983757Mogs me. I can't draw for shit on Intuos. Only can do chicken scratches
>>7983939>It's a better experience in every waywith the low cost of fucked up shoulder and spine after a year
>>7983757it took me 6 months to get the hang of screenless tablet and years to completely ignore how the surface of it feels like
>>7983757Like any other beg tracer, it looks like shit, because you have no idea what you're doing.Line-art represents ambient occlusion and the contrast between the shapes we perceive.If you know how ambient occlusion works, then you'd know what line thickness to use in certain areas.Because you don't know this, the result is a mess of lines with random thickness that completely flatten the image.Put a complete lack of stroke confidence on top and you get the crap you produced.Keep grinding and study what you're supposed to be doing instead of just doing it.
>>7988432>years to completely ignore how the surface of it feels likeYesterday I put paper on it. It's less slippy but there seems to be some accuracy getting lost. There are also extra films for tablets you can buy.
This was my first ever drawing on a tablet.So I think you should kick rocks, you'll never make it.
>>7988462>shows literal beg art >talks bigkek
>>7988455i used to do such shit, now i completely dont care
>>7988450Retard.
>>7988473Thanks for explaining the joke, Jimmy.
>>7988503that's a legit dunning kruger poast
>>7988497"truth hurts" moment
