Hello /ic/>TL;DR some japanese guy made an easy to use and lightweight tool for anti machine learning>We now have Nightshade | Glaze | Grid Noise to date against machine learning>Link: https://grid-noise-animator.vercel.app/en.html>X Link: https://x.com/TI111310/status/2068316463774265496I am not a 2D artist (I do 3D art) but I find the way basedciety is treating 2D artists as rogue in nature and quite despicable.>AI Is basically glorified malware quite honestlyBUT NOW you can protect your artwork in a cool way! Brought to you by japanese people with too much time on your hands, I present to thee:>Grid Noise Animator!Dab on AIdiots like a champ, make their machine learning completely pointless, destroy their futile, transvestite dreams into oblivion with this simple and weird trick!>And all of this is free! I won't be receiving a single penny out of this!>Several languages supported! Not just "nihongo kawaii desu nya~"!Support the vandalism of your local data center today! :D
>>7984709>Example 01
>Example 02
>>7984709>Example 03
>>7984709>Example 04>Final exampleAs you can see, each one is different and you can have less noise for more detail and better appreciation of your art instead of just pure defensive distortion
>>7984709>fucking up your own art to stop piracycongratulations, you've just become a tech company
looks like shit
>>7984731>>7984728If you want to be trained, go aheadNobody is stopping you>Just don't say I didn't warn you anon
I would also like to add to the brilliant (actually retarded plebbitor tier newfags) anons posting here something>Why is it that every fucking time I try to help you fuckers>All I get is>"looks like shit">"go to /beg/">"fake and gay">"condescending comment some autist wrote"This isn't about whether or not art is good you stupid crabbiesThis is about the future of art you faggots I don't care if your ugly artwork becomes a little uglier>At the end of the day you still suck>Fuck you>Pic. is my POV of you trying to unsuccessfully hurt me
it delivers statement and meaning butglaze/nightshade do near to zero meaningful shit against 'defending' anything and this one literally fucks the image even for humansthe anti-training shares the same bottleneck as the captcha, the human vision it isi draw, but also i've choosen AI/ML for my academic trackwhenever i see such stuff, i just dont know what to think, mostly mixed feelings
>>7984751also even if this tool takes off, mind that it can be 'disarmed' unless the transformation is horribly lossy
>>7984751i feel conflicted because i'm a copyright abolitionist who believes in the complete dissolution of intellectual property rights, but i also really hate AI for being slop. i don't want the AI to win but i don't want the glazefags to win either
>>7984758idk, i don't want to care about even the boundaries of what count as winning or losing let alone winning/losing themselvesi just want to do what i want, without thinking about stupid arguments about aiprobably knowing a little bit of its workings desensitized me, but i have pretty mixed feelings about this whole generative ai thing, neither overwhelmingly negative or positive
>>7984759not that i gen images though, they look shit for the most of the time and there's no fun not being able to control the whole process
>>7984751>>7984754OP here.I've trained models before just to see how good AI can be. I've trained realistic, stylized, 2D and even used 3D artwork for models.>I can confidently tell you one thing>Even with great sampling, training models is still hard and demanding>There is no way you can train anything with glazed and/or nightshaded artworkPost the workflow on how to "disarm" Glaze + Nightshade or shut the fuck up forever.Get out of my board or I will hunt you down and become part of a terrorist list.>I am not joking you dumb crab>No you are not fooling me I actually know how models and LoRAs work>>7984758It's almost as if defending intellectual property and rights prevents AI slop, makes you think huh mr. gay internet commie?>And don't pretend artists had any defense against machine learning either you dishonest liar
>>7984784sm hwhatever, i am not here to argue
>>7984785Stop gaslighting people in this thread, AIdiot.Every time I talk about anti-AI measures one of you cockroaches has to butt in, shit up my entire thread and lie about "oh this magical workflow nobody ever shared online" works against Glaze or Nightshade or even this novel Grid Noise AnimatorI know you got nothing, I wasn't born yesterday>So what if you don't like it?>You're supposed to not like it>This is literally invented to put you back where you belong>In the trashAnd you know what? I like the filter, it looks coolGet the fuck out of my thread go back to Civitai it's where you belong, but we both know that place won't exist for much longer
>>7984788>accusing me as a ai retardi dont even generate images, as i stated, i draw digitallyi dont care about those vibecoded generation uis nor eye-gouging slop sites like civitai or whateveri like the message you want to spread, but what i want to say is that the human vision is the ultimate anchor and there is not so much way to wiggle around it if not straight out impossibledo you want me to post my work or what?going to raid my blog?
To all the people claiming tech like this is pointless. You're fucking stupid. It's a natural response to unsolicited training. Suggesting people should bend over and take it shows the jew in you. Things like this being created are a massive pain in the ass as raw organic data is only becoming more and more scarce and inbreeding on sythentic data causes model collapse. They're going so far as to ban people within the communities dedicated to releasing poisonous text/tools from using their platforms.You all don't seem to realize just how valuable YOUR data is.
if people start recognizing that their data is that valuable they'd start asking to be paid for it. You can't have the goy throw a fit about being farmed for free, you have to convince them that having ads shoved down their throats and paying to have their data stolen is the only way they should be treated
>>7984789OP here. Ok, fair enough anon.I apologize. But understand the following>This board makes it super hard to keep track of who's who here>Good point though>Keep training your art champ you'll survive while everyone else quits
>>7984790>>7984795>This anon gets itBut honestly... how do we even convince autistic 2D artists that their own artwork is also data and can thus be farmed/trained?Also, said data is their own property tooThe more I think about this the more technophobic I see them to become>Not in a pro-AI way but rather in an anti-defense usage of technology that could be used to protect them of machine learningAs >>7984790 said about data>The entire US economy today is basically ran on data for fucks sake>Said artists still don't want to recognize how their online habits harm their own careers or would be careers
>>7984798i am pleasantly surprised by your replyi also apologize for the passive aggressivenessi just feel bittersweet to some extent, thanks for understandingsorry for the unnecessary fuss, just, you know
>>7984802i took too much of blackpill
>>7984802Show 'em crabbies anon
>>7984803Notice that as soon as you ask for the AIdiots the "magical sauce workflow leet haxzor" to "disarm" anti-AI stuff, they never post anything.Almost as if they're BLUFFING or something, crazy right?>Anon Civitai is a fucking ghost town nowIt's like AI has been completely abandonedSomehow, organic artists are still breathing despite adversities>The same cannot be said about AI slop though
>>7984709Interesting, but the fact that it has to be a video or gif is kind of obnoxious. Couldn't they come up with a solution that's simply a single still image?But another option is nice, and it's probably more accessible than either glaze or nightshade, since both require local installation and having the hardware capable of doing such, compared to what appears to be a web based solution here.
>>7984811I think you can actually export it as an image.Though training AI on images is far more advanced today than training on videos.So it's likely better to be a video, instead. The image is not actually moving it's like a filter over it.>Checks the websiteYeah currently it's only MP4 | WEBM | GIFsYou could technically make it into a still .GIF file, though. GIFs don't have to necessarily become animated they can just be stills.
>>7984802Now kiss
It explains what it is. I scrolled past few of these on Twitter. And I also saw that people already started using it like a new art format, using the glitch effent only on a part of the drawing, like Teto's ponytails, for example. It will disappear quick because what's the point of looking at art when it makes you hurt your eyes and the gifs are always so low quality. Also OP, you don't have to write 'OP here' every time, I assure you we can recognize you after the waird ass way you're writing.
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>>7984899>It will disappear quick because what's the point of looking at art when it makes you hurt your eyes and the gifs are always so low qualityYeah you're right on that. But what's the point of doing art just to become replaced by some machine from some online random misanthrope anyway?I'd say fuck society>UnironicallyKeep noising up your art until society starts to respect your craft more.Fuck 'em
i’d you fear being trained on then you’re insecure
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>>798470999% of people are just using it for memes or funny background effectsIdiots are way too afraid of AI "stealing" their art and most of the time the people who scream the most are artists with 100 followers
owlcat games are literally using midjourney to make successful well-liked gamesturning a blind eye towards the bullet train thinking a horse is enough, is pure arrogance
>>7984709I just don't post my art online.
AI can't be racist.I win.
>>7984709Funny effect and it may work against AI I guess, but looking too much at this is headache inducing
>>7985236it literally doesn't matter, retard, the amount of data needed to advance a model rises exponentially, nobody's waiting for pros, they're scraping everything while also spamming synthetic data and hoping it sticksif you're willingly feeding some kike's ai, you are a dumb fucking nigger
>>7985236>Idiots are way too afraid of AI "stealing" their art and most of the time the people who scream the most are artists with 100 followersShouldn't smaller artists be the ones to worry the most, since they likely haven't been scraped yet? If you're a big artist, well you're shit out of luck, but the smaller ones still have a chance to defend themselves, especially if they have a particularly distinctive style.
>>7985501>>7985501It is still not too late to protect your artwork from machine learning>Especially if you're still training or not established or recognized yet
If everyone starts uploading these, then people will just start training their models on these kinds of images kek
>>7984709guess you'd use this for comedic effect? rumao
>>7984709very cute op i like it
>>7984709it's been fun seeing how jap artists are experimenting with the effect in their art
>>7985179Other way around. I don't fear being trained on because my art looks ten times worse than ai slop
>>7984758Just consistently side against corpos. Use the filters and advocate against IP rights even though what you want will never happen.
>>7986760This is kind of neat.
>>7985501There is basicl two ways.1. You are a small artist and your art will have no impact on being fed into a big AI model or almost nobody will make a LoRa.2. You are a huge artist and won't even have to worry if someone trains a model on your art
>>7984709Pretty neat. I like the wavy effect. While it might not be its intended usage, this can easily be like a tool to just add some subtle animation to your art. I had this idea for using masking with this to isolate the wave effect, and as you would have it, it turns out other artists were already playing around with this tool in the exact ways I was thinking of. Haha. Neato
>>7987140To further that since Google just stalks all of my online activity, it recommended me this video where they talk about all the ways it's being used and it's about as creative as you can expect.https://youtube.com/shorts/hSOG4nittEM
>>7984709what is this wave of schizoid ai threads ? just draw something not so fucking basic and standart there are thousands of others like it just to train the aiaka have some soul
>>7987191Noo! i have to protect my art! my shitty art that nobody cares about or the same white void gacah/anime slop that companies will totally "steal" to make billions (losses)
>>7987230exactly
>>7984709I like that people have been using it to illustrate "heat" in art
>>7987230i guess the ai bro is the natural evolution of the crab in a bucket
>>7984709ehIf it could do it without introducing the jitter, I think it would be goodI guess it is better than nothing
>>7987230Shitty art is literally becoming invaluable for training models that can blend in as organic art, so your point is pretty moot. All data is valuable to AI companies, thinking otherwise is retarded
it sucks lol and it'll be obsolete by tomorrow.op = dunning kruger
>>7986760I saw a video showing a ton of different examples of this, and I think it's got great potential as a purely aesthetic affect. Seeing this trend also made me wonder why internet art doesn't use animated effects more often, i really want to experiment with that now
>>7987230Having a realistic improvement curve and posting frequency is about the last way uneducated normies can sniff out slop accounts. If the machine learns to make human-like mistakes its going to fool them even better. And its gonna cause more AI accusations against real artists
>>7984709How do classic paintings look with this effect?
>>7984709People just use it to make creepy looking gifs
I like AI.To generate movies that would cost thousands of production hours, and an army of people with just a computer amazes me. I can just imagine doing just one 30 seconds of surreal completely realistic looking stuff because I used to be into home made special effects as a kid and am well versed in how stuff is created for shows in non CGI practical effects. But one thing eludes me.How much is the input of the prompt writer and how much of it is the AI? Where does one fade into the other? The mystery of prompt writing eludes me, but all art is a process, and the results rendered in their mediums. But it seems to be a new craft for the new medium called AI Art.
>>7984709Does anyone else not care if their art gets shoved into the AI gruel machine? I legit could not care less. My style is not even a style, and I find the whole process of hunting down and attacking anyone who trains AI on my art exhausting. Wanna destroy the environment with my art? Sure man. That's on you. I'm not responsible for your actions and their consequences.
I think it's because there's not many aibros here. I'd tell you go to seek them out on cesspools like reddit aiwars but it'd be mostly a waste of time and I think you're doing a better job preaching the truth about artist OPSEC/data poisoning.
>>7984737I don't really see why I should be bothered by that.
AI can only act under directions. It doesn't jump out of bed and say to itself," Time to make Anime Futa Porn with a Gothic Vampire theme" by itself.A series of prompts enables the parameters of what AI constructs. And since you can train one on your own personal work, the ultimate tool for creating. Even prompts are a crsft,as is drawing or any other Media. Merely a Process. Pen to paper. Paintbrush on canvas. Creating assets for larger projects like film or other industrial art projects. Prompts fishing for acceptable results. Ultimately just another tool.The Vision executed by the AI is human. An AI wouldn't do so on its own.It doesn't know Why yet.
>>7987877Most people who scream about it the most always seem to have to most generic twitter copy paste artstyle
>>7986760I was about to call the OP shit but this one is really cutealthough I do find it funny that the website itself is made in AIrules for thee but not for me
>>7984758I'm not sure whether to think copyright and IP laws actually suck in themselves or if they suck due to only being enforced by massive corpos on disproportionately small targets. I want companies (especially music) to be less anal about copyright, but I don't know how I feel about a wild west where some rich kike can steal off the little guy.>that already happens nowYes but there's at least a facade of it being illegal.
>>7984709It's really cute seeing what kind of ideas people come up with this lmao.
