Taking a break? Drink some water, do some stretches, share some thoughts.Just keep them art related.Previous: >>7977583
WHERE DID THE FUCKING TIME GO?I JUST WOKE UP HOW HAS IT ALREADY BEEN 6 HOURS
>>7990943if i keep getting more stupid i might forget how to breathe
it is almost 3:30 PM and i have not studied nor have i showered.
>>7991103thats how people with alzheimers die
>>7991207They actually forget how to swallow, and drown on their own spit in their sleep
>>7990943For the /ic/bros that know, Mamimi and lady shin are a CSRobutts/shexyo situation right? They're not the same artist?
Art is too much work. Everything takes so long.
>making ai glaze me and my art>3 hours few by just being complemented over and overits over for me
>>7991368that happens with every famous normieslop pornfag because normies don't have any shame nor integritythank god social media is dead
>>7991546It's just crazy to see it again after shexyo, I honestly thought it was his more tame alt account at first
>>7991556>sakimi has countless copycats>csr has countless copycats>now mamimi has copycaptsyou just hear or see whatever some normie sees for the first time and decides to screech about ityou go r34 you see countless copycatsdid someone make a drama farming thread on X with this ladyshin or what?
I'm taking a break, can you tell me what you think about >>7991567 ? Trying to get into commissions
>>7991368>>7991546>>7991556>>7991558i had no idea that other people followed artists as living creators, rather than just sources of art for the old homework folder. unless an artist i follow keeps sperging out about politics in 75% of their artwork like jollyjack does on deviantart, or they got caught slopping, i really don't care what happens with the artists i commission or subscribe to.
>>7991582It’s not bad although it still seems kinda /beg/
A few weeks ago, I asked my boss for Sundays off. He agreed, but due to his enthusiasm and the fact that some projects took longer than usual, I ended up working every day.Recently, I’ve wanted to be stricter about this. However, in a recent email, he told me that he now has two jobs while working on his personal project. He even finds time to watch movies. He told me that he only sleeps four hours a night, even though he’s much older than I am.Now, I feel guilty asking him for a day off. However, the truth is that I’m really sick of working on his illustrations and comics every day.
my art finally got reposted on danbooru, i feel i kind of made it but at the same time i'm nervous because i don't want ai to scrape it
>>7991558>did someone make a drama farming thread on X with this ladyshin or what?No I just randomly came across the account and genuinely thought it was Mamimi's more normie safe alt account
somebody stop the painhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBk5-K2BBgo
>>7991760Ive been thinking in grinding a Gelbooru account to post my stuff there, but honestly I dont like being a jannie.Youre lucky, Danboorufaggots are even more annoying when it comes to anime purity than /ic/ or /jp/.
>>7991760reminds me of the time I posted a WIP on /ic/ and it made it to R34 somehow
>>7992003I posted an absolutely garbage /beg/ tier trad drawing on /a/ one time and someone actually saved and reposted it (in a legitimate, non-mocking way). Happiest day of my life
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>>7992169Did the test succeed?
As someone who was recently gayed how should it alter how I draw?
>>7992488What the fuck does that mean?
>>7992496I had experiences during Pride month which made me realize I’m gay.
>>7992600You just need some good pussy. You’re not gay.
>>7992601I don’t appreciate your heteronormative homophobia.
>>7992618Maybe you just need some really bad dick
And depressed anons here? How do you power through the depression so that you can draw?
>>7992638I just killed myself.
>>7992600Ok. Well, draw some sexy naked dudes I guess
>>7992647Well that's unfortunate
>>7991515I wish AI wasnt what it was and actually was capable of being a dynamic tutor. Learning Digital Oil Painting has been a sore.
>>7992496It’s like being knighted. But with jizz.
its literally too hot to draw. Any time I move my body I get hit with a heat wave shifting around in the room. No I dont have money for a fan.
Phil Foglio's art is exactly what would happen if Gabe and TheGoldenSmurf had a baby
>>7992647Did it hurt when you fell from heaven? ;)
Had a weird moment yesterday when drawing in that I realized I have improved. For the first time in my life, I feel like if I can just tighten up my study methods a little more and work a little harder I can get even better this time next year. Not everything I do is total dogshit (or at least, not to the extent it was a few years ago). It's so freeing because I've spent most of my life thinking I was a giga Chris Chan tier retard who simply couldn't do it, turns out I just needed to lock in and apply myself. All that said I'm going through a doomer period regardless
>>7993382kek I remember this, I literally thought it was Gabe when I first saw it
hikki life
>>7991760I just started posting my art on r34 booru until it started getting noticed and then people were uploading it on their own.
>>7993351Just become nocturnal like me.
>>7992638>How do you power through the depression so that you can draw?I don't.Depression is the biggest talent killer. It's funny how nobody ever talks about this. You get all these guides about how to become a better artist including all kinds of techniques and philosophies, but you never see people mentioning the obvious. Probably it fits more into psychology not art, but still, depression is your biggest enemy as an artist. It also can fuel your creativity but you just don't benefit from it when you never feel like drawing.
>>7992638Some things which helped me tho (regardless of still being lazy as fuck) is reading philosophers.Writers like Arthur Schopenhauer or Carl Gustav Jung can help you a bit to accept your depression more and become active regardless. Carl Jung for example said that being lonely gives you authenticity and creativity. When you are always alone then the voices in your head just become so loud that you must do something to get rid of them.Schopenhauer says that you have to actively fight against boredom because boredom is very dangerous. It's like the wet wall where depression can grow like fungus. And making art is a very good way to fight against boredom.It's all still very difficult tho. At least for me it is. Because in the end you always still have to accept your sad reality and circumstances. There is not much you can do to change them.
>>7992638I don't power through anything. I just draw or do something else other than ruminate.
>>7993382>>7993493It truly looks like one of the Gabe's characters, even a bit the style
How do you cope with seeing talented artists who are way younger than you? I know all the platitudes like "focus on yourself", and I'm practising to stop being a /beg/, but it still stings. I feel like I could throw a rock and hit 9 of these little fuckers.
>>7993615I have bigger problems than some random guys being younger than me or being better at art than me.I already know my life is a train wreck so little details like this don't really concern me that much.
>>7993618Pretty good way to think about life in general tbqh. There are people out there who are ACTUALLY suffering. If you’re not dying or being actively tortured by the cartel or some shit like that, well, be thankful for what you have. Your art problems are tiny in the grand scheme of things.
>>7993615just think of it as privilege instead of talent>those kids can draw better than me because they have privilege>when i was around those age, i dont have ipad with procreate or time alone so that i can draw in a /calm/ state inside my room for hoursSee? Its easier than think that it comes from talent
>>7993698then find a job that fits your schedule ya fraud
>>7993694Well, it always can get worse. Doesn't mean you have to be satisfied with everything despite living an objectively shitty life.
Socializing here is fucking retarded. Too many retards here. This place is only good to post your drawings and maybe making fun of others. Otherwise it's best to not interact with people at all here.
Is there any gore art out there that isn't corny
>>7993382People who crab him now don't remember how his 2020-22 art used to looks like lmao
>try "smudge-proof" lead>it smudges
Can you learn to take more time on detail and rendering or am I forever cursed to be an ADHD brained retard?
>>7994010Just change your process. Maybe add another step to it. As long as you are able to finish your work you can add as many steps to your process as you want.
I wasn't as bad as I thought years ago.Also, I hate getting the most inspiration and drive to draw when I'm about to go to bed, or it's late at night. Where's that shit when I'm energized and awake.
my art doesn't even appeal to me. how can i a desire to draw exist without even the vehicle of self satisfaction to drive it. feels completely redundant. i don't want to look at my art, so why should anyone else. i can't even remember the last time i posted a drawing online that wasn't on an anonymous imageboard but it must have been 7+ years ago now
>>7994231Just copy your favorite artists. You basically just have to make a remix out of several artists you like, then you will find the outcome interesting, although it may not be on the level of quality of your favorite artists.
>>7994239Literally this. Just do mastercopies for awhile. When I'm in a slump I do van goghs
>looking for a reference of a specific action in a specific angle30 minutes to an hour of trawling the dead internet sifting through ai slop>actually drawing the gesture of the pose once you find it1 minutemake it make sense. I spend only 10% of my time actually drawing lines.
>>7994819You should probably work on your imagination and visualization skills so you don’t have to be as chained to references
Been into femboys lately. I want to improve my anatomy, is there a book you recommend specifically for that niche or should I stuck to studying femboy artists?
>>7993535>>7993572>>7993551I guess the only way out is to draw. Maybe I'll start drinking to help me actually get started in doing it
>>7995352Draw a girl, call it a boy. There's nothing more to it than that.
>>7995359Drinking just makes me more depressed. It actually made me sick too. Plus you can't really concentrate anymore while drunk so your drawings become shit.
>>7995352There isn't anything special about their anatomy, just study any decent anatomy book and try to apply what you learn to studies of artists you like
>>7995352As a professional femboy Conne sour draw a twink and call it a femboy people appreciate that more over the just draw a girl. The masculine features are a part of what makes them hot
>>7995367I need something to help calm my mind and get started though. Video games don't work as well anymore because they make me feel like a bum whenever I'm depressed and I usually end up spending more time playing them than I should
>>7995370>>7995371Do you think Hampton would be ok for this purpose?
>>7995374>I need something to help calm my mindWell alcohol doesn't calm my mind at all. On contrary I just lose control instead. Maybe it works different for you idk.
>>7995371>The masculine features are a part of what makes them hot>masculine features>femboy>femIsn't the point of Femboys to deviate from masculine features. We're talking about Traps here right.
>>7995384Not him but I think that the point is a mix of masculine and feminine features, though people have different tastes on how those features are combined
>>7995386I guess, but having mixed features just makes the niche fall apart in my opinion. Men know what other Men look for and Femboys that make porn appeal to that which where the term "Traps are not Gay" stems from.
>>7995394which is where the term "Traps are not Gay" stems from*
>>7995395I think that idea fell apart when people had a visceral reaction to Bridget becoming a girl
>>7995384Its a mix what makes it hot is the androgyny the boy having feminine features while having masculine traits is part of the gap moe. Draw a girl and call it a boy can work though it just depends on how far you push those feminine features. Too feminine and you lose the appeal except to people who just like to get off to the femboy title than the femboy itself
How do you build a following for commission work when you really dislike drawing popular shit? I dont care for the 5 recurring characters raven, bunny bitch from mha, etc?
>>7995458>How do you build a following for commission work when you really dislike drawing popular shit?You don't. Either you draw furry slop or you are some rare genius. Otherwise there is no money in art.
>>7995458Find a niche fandom and draw art of it until you become known or draw a niche fetish until you become known
>>7995384>>7995440Adding on I think the draw a girl call it a boy approach works best when its something like what yuruyakatou or etori yuuya does where they look like a girl at a glance but the longer you stare the clearer it is that its a boy. Despite the soft feminine feel of the body in the drawing you can still see some bit of subtle boyishness in the design. pre strive bridget has the same feel too
>DM someone>account gets lockedYeah I can't do this. Does anyone have it?
>>7995521Animation production for cels too? Because that would be interesting to me.
>>7995531Presumably not?I don't think there's any studio in the world still using handpainted cels, if that's what you meant.
>>7995667That sucks. Cel art always had a distinct look to it. The colors on cels are just so juicy. It's a bit like digital art but with actual real juicy colors.
>>7995886Digital animation could have juicy colours too if we took after effects away from post production teams. So much gets muted now because its just covered in bloom and post processing effects everywhere that strong colouring isn't incentivized and even when its done it gets washed out and smothered to death. They can't replicate the feeling of physical paint drying into paper but they can very much still have juicy colours today
>>7995927It's not the same kind of juicy. Digital will never be able to replicate the feel of real pigments. Hell even real synthetic colors can't replicate the feel of real pigments. Synthetic colors just look more dull compared to real pigments.
>>7995521https://x.com/EdelweissSquad7/status/2079397423626018873
>work freelance for 5 years>burnout real bad >unable to draw anything >get a day job to heal and only focus on personal projects>3 months in and I already want to quit because I don't have enough time to draw>all the money from my job is going to helping parents pay debt so I can't save money to quit The logical thing to do would be to supplement my income with commissions but that defeats the purpose of getting away from art as a job for a while to get back to top condition.
>No longer a wagecuck.>After closing up for the final time working for someone else I am finally free.>Suddenly realize you're going to be bearing extra responsibilities as your own boss now.There's no escape from the wagecage even if you're your own boss. It'll certainly feel weird not having to answer to anyone else but yourself and clients but at least you'll truly be alone in an office drawing anything you want. Pray for me.
>>7996108Never thought I would see a zoi on /ic/
>>7996216You need to be merciless about setting a strict schedule for yourself. Draw a sharp boundary between work time and free time. Not doing that was my #1 mistake. It let me get super lazy
Just got word I'm being sent off for a monthWhile I'm glad to get away from the office, it also means I won't be able to work on my at-home projects which sucks I'm trying to think of things to draw in my month-long break and I'm kinda blanking which never happened when I was working 7 days a week.Guess it's always easier to dream...
>>7996483Really like how you painted that slug thing or whatever it is. What program do you use for coloring if I may ask? Is this Krita? Looks very trad for a digital painting.
>>7996531that's not mine fyiit had a twt filename but for some reason it's not thereI just share art I like sometimes
>found a cached /ic/ page from 1,5 years back>it's comfytoo bad i accidently updated the page...
>Finish a piece>"Damn. Looks pretty good. Maybe I'm finally leaving beg.">Still finding mistakes two weeks laterFuck my life.
>>7996825May I see the piece?
>>7996831Sorry anon but no. Not taking the risk of you and others saying "yeah it really sucks". I'm insecure enough as it is.
>>7996834it's better to seek feedback and improve than to avoid it to protect one's ego
>drew a painting frame in the background>now I have to come up with something clever and related to the illustration to put inside itI always make this mistake.
>>7996903I know... I really need to stop being such a pussy. Fine, here's the piece.
>>7996920
>>7996907Not everything has to fit together. Often it's more interesting to just add some random stuff.
how the hell do you guys have the energy to draw after work? ill get home and then by the time im done eating i just wanna relax
>>7997009I often don't have it. Sometimes you gotta force it a little.
>>7996920Deviant-art soul gas
>>7997012What does the gas mean
>>7997009Aside from the first 2 weeks where I completed a little rough animation I was already working on I simply didn't. I tried to draw at work but that didn't last long. It wasn't all days of no draws after work but like anon said you kinda have to force it
>>7993382>>7993987This picture made me finally realize why form and perspective might be even more important than anatomy.
Be honest. Anyone else using AI?
>>7997132Ok, but how do you learn form and perspective?
I want to draw naked women but I'm too tired, this sucks. I'll rest for 30 minutes and see if that does anything to help
>>7997211I would love to try it but I'm too dumb for AI. I don't know how to use it properly. Would be nice to have someone telling me where to put the shadows in a realistic way.
>>7997218Try the first few chapters of Vilppu.
>>7997009just start drawing, the hardest part is just even getting started
10 hours minimum
>>7997295Unfortunatly I am really bad... Day by day I am more convinced that you either kinda already knew how to do it, or you don't.
I really hate that the time you post is something you have to consider with media
How do I manage working on a project together with artists that are more skilled and experienced than me (high int/advanced range, they have been drawing often and seriously for more than half a decade and make "professional" level art consistently while I'm just tackling fundamentals now) without feeling anxious about my own art?
>>7997769Don't set the bar too high for yourself. Accept that you might not be as good at first and learn that it's okay. Sometimes you'll just fail badly at things, and that's fine.
>>7997478For what? Wanking? PER DAY?
>drawing for an hour takes longer than an hour because you have to set up, get into the zone, and then edit and polish afterwardsdrawing is the only activity where the harder you work, the less you get done
After nearly half a year of silence after paying for a commission, the artist finally reached out with progress and offered a few extra items as an apology. Pleasantly surprised, bros.
>>7997941I mever understood how could someone leave their clients waiting like that. Are artists okay?
This is only kinda related to drawing but i feel like im too retarded to express myself in an interesting way. It's pretty frustrating.>>7997995Lazyness is the easiest thing in the world, just don't do anything
I wish I still liked drawing.I wasn’t good as a teen, but I used to draw all the time, doodled in classes and time off, then I just stopped somewhere in my 20s and now I just hate everything I draw, even spitball doodles. I’m not stupid, I know what I need to work on, but it just isn’t fun anymore. Nothing is.
>>7998082Try painting more. Working with colors is objectively fun. Then the drawing also makes sense again.
i almost hate when i make something that's unusually good for my level of ability because i know the next thing i make will almost certainly be worse. it makes start procrastinating.
>>7993813This site is where undersocialized retarded rejects (myself included) go, what do you expect?
>>7997995You just don't know what is going on with their lives. Probably they are wage slaving, and from time to time procastinating.>>7993813We are not here to socialize after all.Why would you?
>>7997995I found out about the artist beware site recently and it's astonishing how many artists leave their clients waiting for a year or more specifically due to moving. Like "moving" is 9/10 times the excuse. Why even give an excuse? Why not say earlier you can't do the commission and give them a refund, do they just hope the client eats the loss and never follows up? These artists aren't jeet scammers so I don't it.
>>7998123I'm assuming they are trying to hoard as many clients as possible and are sitting comfortably enough on a decent flow of income from other sources to passively reject their smaller clients because they'll still come back if they believe you're still "working" on their project, there are other reasons like being awful at time management but if they're not directly under pressure they'll not take it seriously. Popular artists can get away with some nonsense, but some of them take it to the extreme.
>>7998123I like how most client bewares are underage children stealing their parent's credit card for commissions and causing a chargeback when mom finds out
>>7998162I aim to take commissions in the future. How do I avoid dealing with bullshit like this? Are you expected to research every client if you don't want to get fucked over? Are these incidents exceptionally rare?
>>7998123>Why not say earlier you can't do the commission and give them a refundThe artist already spent the client's money on ubereats. Especially if it was "emergency commissions"
>>7998123Sometimes life just happens. Drawing is a bit of a mental thing and if you're not in the right frame of mind it can be hard to start or finish something to the standards you'd like. Some of them are definately lazy but its possible that a lot of them just get tied up in constant minor life stuff breaking their focus. If you work a job for example it can be hard to come back from work motivated to draw on top of other responsibilities you might have
>>7998302If you're stringing someone along for over a year just cancel the order and refund. You can't tell a paying customer "Nah I don't feel like it" and just not do what they paid you for. Responding with rationalizations for the wait is even worse because they're almost always guilt-tripping to make the customer feel like the bad guy for asking. If your reasoning is you want it to be perfect/to a high standard, your art at its absolute best is still probably not worth waiting as long as you're making them wait. If you only want to draw when motivated, keep it as a hobby and don't make it a job. In every other job you still need to do it when you're not motivated or have shitty mental health or being distracted by life. And even when you do get exemptions in other lines of work, you don't get an indefinite recovery period that ends at your own discretion. Stop stalling and draw the furry diaper hyperscat he paid 200 bucks for.
>>7996825can relate, I'm a little over a month doing the same piece on my days off and still finding stuff to fix. Luckily I haven't run into diminishing returns yet.
>>7998352why do people like this even do commission work when they could just set up patreon and kofi and draw for themselves
i couldn't stop getting mald and coping and seething everytime i see the talented and gifted post their progress chart
>>7997995the ones that ghost clients are thirdies that immediately spend the money because its life changing for them.
>commissioners scamming artists/picky commissioners>artists scamming commissioners/lazy artistsThe stress isn't worth it.
>>7997995>I mever understood how could someone leave their clients waiting like that. Are artists okay?>Acquaintance introduces me to some corporate bigwig working for a gaming studio>Apparently he's the president>Checks my art and turns giddy>Create a D*scord to have a meeting with him to commission an OC all the mean while my acquaintance is reiterating me that he's a millionaire>"No pressure by the way :)">It's my first commission ever>Meet the richfag, get the details of what he wants to draw and send him a cropped sketch from the torso above>He wants to see the full figure, tell him she's still naked and doesn't have any clothing on>Spill spaghetti>Never go back to D*scord and disappearAt least he got a free sketch.
To my fellow high /beg/s: you guys ever look at an higher intermediate or advanced art friend and go "Huh, I wonder if I can match their quality in like, a year or two?"
>>7998582It's cool I have no friends. I can only compare myself to masters, so maybe I'd use your figure and add an extra zero to it
>>7998582I've always been the best at drawing from the people I knew. There never was anyone better than me. If someone is better than me then I just blame it on easier upbringing. Really good artists usually grew up spoiled.
>>7998582it's silly to compare yourself with someone you don't really admirejust compare yourself to the best and let your ego deal with it
>>7998581I want to find you and stab you. I dont think I will ever stop.
>>7998598Found the screenshots, this was the first time I felt like an "artist" even if it was for a brief moment. It was nice to be considered by someone as high profile as he was desu and this is not the first time someone with a high net worth complimented me - the founder of image shack saw my art and made a couple of requests and now I'm part of his little group. You may want to get involved with Crypto you'll meet people there.
>>7998608 Crypto space is a dead end because of Aisloppers.
>>7998609Would you like to meet a developer who commissions others? All he looks for is someone he can rely on and isn't going to scam him (he's already been scammed by artists before).Here's a WIP of his latest commission.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1784950399152829.mp4
>>7998352Nah I'm not justifying holding people's commissions over a year with no contact. I'm just saying I get it in the non extreme cases
>>7998614If the avg artist he meets is like you and scams him im surprised he hasnt given up on human artists entirely
>>7998627You must be exceptional then.
>>7998629I wouldnt flake out on a client and ghost them if thats what you mean and if that makes one exceptional than holy shit
>>7998645>clientHe interviewed me and I wasn't prepared to show him a nude figure of his OC so I left. I'm not about to show a stranger something intimate like that I felt uncomfortable and no he didn't pay me he just wanted to get to know me.
>>7998653 still a bitch move and probably ruined the guy's trust in artists in general especially for something so trivial like a nude drawing of an OC.I wish I had that opportunity. god be blessing the wrong people fr
Haven't been able to go past the sketch phase in three days. I want to finish something again but I can't. I think it's anxiety caused by irl. Did anyone experience something similar? How do I get out of it?
>>7998866the only way i know how is sheer brute forcethe executive dysfunction responds to nothing else
>>7998866it's basically the ego protecting itselfjust accept you suck and that it's fine to do bad drawings
i wish I had an artist gf who liked drawing porn
>>7998866Turns out you don't actually want to finish this sketch. Big deal. Move on. I think the closet of regrets is crowded enough as it is and you don't need to try and squeeze this doodle in.
>find an artist who doesn't have 300k followers and who isn't popular yet>drop comment>they like and don't reply to it>follow>they don't follow back>give actual critique>they don't reply or even like>drop another comment>"hum thanks">keep doing it>they keep avoiding it>repeat on all artist i meethow the FUCK!!!?? does someone connections or a friend? or is there a secret global rule everyone knows except me that says nobody can talk to me?picrel is for video games obviously but it is exactly the same for everything for me.or maybe i AM the only one online and the internet really is dead.
>>7998920go to a life drawing classfind friends in real lifeonline is fake and gay
>>7998866>Did anyone experience something similar?I do trad so I know this feeling very well>How do I get out of it?You can't get attached to the sketch. That's the most important part. As soon as you get attached to it because you think it looks nice and you don't want to ruin it, you become hesitant to refine it and finish the drawing.Other methods which help are>draw smaller, less ambitious stuff>actually enjoy the process of finishing stuff>color traditionally to enjoy the process more (helps for me at least, digital coloring is not very fun to me)>work in layers so you don't get the fear of ruining the sketch>develope an ADHD mindset when creating, you kind of need it to work faster and actually finish stuff>learn to not give a shit and accept that art is never perfect>do quick paintings>actually finish stuff so you internalize that you can do it, then finishing stuff just becomes a habit
>>7998920>is there a secret global rule everyone knows except me that says nobody can talk to me?Engagement is a form of currency, and ever since farmers began to monetize it other people treat viewcounts as such. The reason why you're not receiving feedback or any engagement back is because you are viewed as a vampire attack siphoning mindshare and attention away from them.Your best bet is to join a niche group/cult that promotes the collective instead of the individual as the odds of engagement are much better.
>>7998123Why are zoomies so impatient? You can't rush art.
>>7998920I think the major social media sites are for dumping content but are seen as shady for making contacts and then probably have a discord or something that's their social hub. Or some of them just focus on another platform when it comes to actively building a friend's list
>>7998920You are entitled to the attention and acknowledgement of others.Also, giving unwarranted crits is often ignored by most people.
>>7998942*arent
>>7998942long-fingered asa, my love
Bought a daisy palette for my acrylics and some new brushesAlso bought my first Liquitex. Their tubes definitely feel pretty fancy. Probably will continue buying them from time to time.Coloring traditionally is really pay to win.
Why are like 70% of artists terrible people?
Why are 99% of people terrible people?
>>7999586it's a doggy dog world
>>7998911Don’t let your dreams be memes anon. Go find one.
>>7999586Shit genes/low IQ
>>7999615Where I do start?
>>7999846You just find one...
>>7999851ok but WHERE
>>7999853Anywhere you want!
>>7999923such as...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZNEbwmVEQQI sort of get the idea, but how would that reflect on his girl in the mirror painting, as in actual examples? He said you wouldn't need to completely redo the painting.I can only imagine making the shards of depressed doll version just tired in sort of a comical expression vs the dolled up fake image where she looks all happy mr.perfect girl with a fake grin.I don't know but it made me think of how artists feel with just making misery porn and not giving a positive or fun spin, I don't think there's really something wrong with it, I've read manga that use that idea as their wheels. Other than not having a secondary idea to support the negative theme, it doesn't strike me as "wrong", but reflecting on that idea, this logic can apply to pretty much any kind of painting, so it doesn't feel somewhat shallow, a lot of drawing of a cute girl just being cute could fall under that category, I guess the reward of seeing something aesthetic with a skillful hand may be considered a reward on its own, so it's kind of a win. But I don't know, a single illustration on its own can be so easily forgotten. I'd not like to dread over such things but there are amazing paintings in history that prove you could just take narrative seriously and put it all on a single canvas that it'd take you quite some time to ever finish it, but would that ever reflect on people caring about it? Does the success reflect its merits?
I wish I could figure out colorsI always feel like I'm so close, I'll finish coloring a few pieces now and then but like 99% of my colored output I just don't like the look of but I do like my lineart nowIt's kinda frustrating bc it feels limiting
>>7998920If they didn't follow back, they either1. Don't like your art at all2. Think your art is ok but want to make sure you actually like them before following back and based on how you described your replies, they know you don't and are just clout chasing3. You post some crazy shit and they don't like your art enough to ignore it3 is the least likely if you're complaining about not having followers because usually this type of schizo has a decent amount of followers, it's just that artists don't reply to them. Honestly if you only followed them after they liked your reply, it's very blatant you're clout chasing. Don't be a dumbass.
>>8000261If i was a digitalfag I also wouln't like my coloring
there are too many things i could draw and i cant choose
>I only made 10 pieces since the start of the year
The whole idea of this board is fucking retarded. No artist with any kind of talent likes getting "advice" from random retards. Why would any decent artist ever post here if all you get from it is retards trying to school and critique you?
>>8000458Because it's fun watching others react especially when they try to nitpick you. I don't even post anymore and you still have resident schizoids hound you just because you've been drawing for so long.
>>8000458i dont post outside of this thread unless there's a genuinely fascinating OP with a reasonably subjective question, which is rare, but it does happen from time to timeotherwise /ic/ is fantastic for getting free easy access to a lot of actual good resources
>>7990943fucking psych meds make me want to sleep during the middle of the day and not shower.
>>8000604But those are the two requirements for being an artist
>>7998866You have to brute force it. Try doing something relaxing to get your brain to stop overthinking before you try to finish it
>>7999589I wish I was someones doggy dog
Do you guys get this feeling that if you're able to get this piece just right, you'll get a breakthrough in your art?
>>7998866Not gonna try to pretend I know the real answer but brute forcing it is an awful way to go about it.As for clarity in your situation distinguish the difference between burn out and fear by plainly asking yourself what's putting you in that spot, writing down some of your current grievances with how you're going about making your art and how you propose it'd feel smoother or less stressing. Then you can list other reasons that aren't directly related with art (time managament and other tasks taking up space, distractions, life getting in the way) applying that same logic.All solutions should accomodate to what you're currently capable of doing, I am not of the belief of treating art as a workout, you can isolate certain skills and borrow some of that mindset if you want, but sidelining others aspects such as curiosity or creativity in spite of a lack of output sounds pretty myopic. If you want to do iterations, thumbnails, search for reference, doing deep dives on specific techniques or methods, you need a healthy amount of interest, it's not something some concept art instructor can squeeze out of you by simply shoving you in the "not grinding enough" lot.Even with all this said, there will be times where you won't feel like drawing, don't guilt trip yourself into beliving this is some kind of abnormality, come back when you feel like drawing, even if it's a 2 minute shitty doodle, finding inspiration somewhere else will make you naturally come back and stay longer anyway.Figure out what's really bothering you, then take some reasonable steps to get it off your way so you can actually enjoy drawing, even if it's a 5% improvement, it's worth the effort.
now i have the irrational fear that if i stop making art for one day, my art skills will spontaneously reset to zero and i will have to relearn everythinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3o1eGe8lRE
>>8000694learning art is like spinning plates, just keep in mind the forgetting curve and do at max weekly reviews
>>7998866Thanks for all the replies, the answer ended up being money, I got a commission and that drove me to finishing it
>>7991697Just because he's destroying himself doesn't mean anyone else has to lol, imagine flipping the roles
How do you separate the drive that makes you want a beautiful woman several times from simping?
>>8000694It's not that bad but you do want to get in the habit of practicing every day if possible, just so you can keep up momentum
How the fuck do you make art friends in your 30s???This shit is impossible
I singlehandedly raise the average posts/day rate whenever I'm here. You should all be thankful for me.
>>8000938It's easy, you join a group. Want to join my /biz/ adjacent group of financial retards who invest tens of thousands on memes?
>>8000981No, I don't want to join your crypto scam discord group thats probably still full of fucking kids and early 20 somethings.
>>8000981>male wine auntiesno thanks
>>8000985It's /biz/ adjacent, should of mentioned they're also drawfags I met and grouped together. I promise I won't poach you into joining a cult.
>>8000938its the same way as making non art friends
>>8000993so basically still impossible
>>8000999just b urselfunless urself is an aspergers prick then yeah its gonna be hard
>>8001002Son, im 35 yrs old.I think it goes without saying that since im still in my "learning how to draw" phase im an aspergers prick and the vast majority of people my age have abandoned shit like this and focus on their careers or families which is why its impossible to make any actual new friends if youre like me. All the boys have moved on and disappeared while im still here.
>>8001013>All the boys have moved on and disappeared while im still here.>>8000992>>8000992>>8000992
>>8001016American do your ears work?
>I want to make friends>Hi.>Go way
>>8001019Sad Mikufag still has not found a boyfriend.
/biz/ meme fags are lower lifeforms than rektfags>>8000938unironically just join an art discord of some artist you like if they have one and dont be afraid to interact with peoplehalf of the issue with friendless people (myself included desu) is an unwillingness to engage with others for one reason or another and that's something you need to ask yourself why you're like that
>>8001024Yeah thats definitely how it happened
At this point I think I half the artcord I'm in set to Ignore for being nodraws
>>8001013Learning to draw has no age limit, stop thinking along those retarded lines. You could pick up a paper & pencil in your 60s and git gud in a year or two. Stop handicapping yourself with these broken mindsets because all that will do is lead to stagnation.
>>8001013it's normal to give up in your 30s, life tends to get rough as you agebe kind to others and you'll find friends, art-related or not
>>8001350>it's normal to give up in your 30sGood thing I'm not normal and I don't give up
>>8000953Well fuck you.
I'm 31 and don't really have any art friends. Kinda sucks, but I don't get discouraged by it.
>>8001485'm 34 and only have anonymous art enemies on this board. the only bit of encouragement i get is from my mom.
>>8001488I almost never post my artwork here. It's very amateur and I don't think I ever got a (You). Also it's funny you mention that, because my parents hate my hobby and wish I'd quit it every day so I could focus on my career.
>>8001488>anonymous art enemies on this board
>>8001491the only way to get (You)s is to be /int/ or above and draw gooner anime elf women from imagination. that is the pattern i have observed.
>>8001488I've never actually posted enough to get dedicated haters, although if I posted more art then that would probably change, because people usually tend to hate me wherever I go
>still can't decide if I want to have linework in my art or notyears of art and I still can't settle
How am I supposed to keep drawing even though i’m constantly crying about being a pathetic loser?
>>8001491>, because my parents hate my hobby and wish I'd quit it every day so I could focus on my career.I hate how much modern society is focused on wholely dedicating yourself to a job and nothing more
>>8001754Yup. I'm done with college and I make more than them, but they want to see me working 44 hours a week because that's going to make me more money. Fuck that, I want free time to read and draw.
>draw>feel good>tired but the day is good>don't draw>feel stressed>still feel exhausted anyways
>>8001754It comes from women and their simps. Women hate unemployed and poor people.
What can I do to learn about the different art styles and techniques artists use if I'm not an artist myself? Like one of my favorite artists is Richard Corben but I have no idea how to describe his art in words.
>>8001865Either you read about it or you try it yourself.Many great artists are self-taught. They just learned it through a mix of reading and trial and error. There are also many great artists who documented their process.
>try really hard to maintain an upright posture while drawing>back pain>just relax into my chair with a lumbar cushion>no back painJust need to wait for my ass cushion to arrive and I'll be good
>>8002209>anon receives his ass cushion>open the box>its me in there
sketching a painting i want to make. anyone have thoughts on the composition
I genuinely cannot draw today. Seriously. Looking at the canvas and thinking about forcing myself to draw feels the same as shoving a knife up my stomach. I worked the whole day. I'm tired. These are the only hours in all of my day in which I can sit down and just relax. I'm not gonna waste them doing something as stressful as drawing. Yet, at the same time, I feel like a pussy for it.
>>8002353>as stressful as drawingDrawing is not stressfull. It's meditation.
>>8002359>Drawing is not stressfull. It's meditation.Come again?
anyone else give up hope?
>>8002359That's only true if you're not trying to make a finished, well-polished piece.
>>8002361Talentoids who are lucky enough to feel that way will never understand the struggles of the untalented.>>8002362Sort of, yeah.
>when you see the crab reference leak onto other boards
My dad’s getting a reconstructive surgery for his face tomorrow (got cancer cut out of his face last year). I asked off at the beginning of the month so I could be there for emotional support and shit. I work at a small business, we don't really require a 2 weeks notice or anything like and my co workers that full advantage of that. These bitches are constantly taking off and leaving work early with little to no notice. In spite of this I asked off and marked off on the calendar in advance. Lo and behold my fucking co worker decided last minute to take a 10 day long family camping trip even though I had already asked off one fucking day for my dad’s surgery. We have very limited staff so both us being out is a big deal. She’s already taken so much time off work for trips, meanwhile I’ve only asked for one other day off this year (my birthday). She suggested I work tomorrow anyway and wish my dad good luck from work. And she was talking about how much she didn’t want to go on this trip and how stressful it is for her. As she was leaving work early today for the trip (I had come in even though it was my off day) my other co worker was wishing her farewell, saying “It sucks that your family is making you go on this trip, try and have fun anyway!” Or some fucking bs about how rough it is for her to go to a fucking camping trip.I’ll keep her in my thoughts and prays tomorrow from the hospital waiting room. God I need a new job.
Can't decide on if I should>Make a manga/manhua/manhwaOnly at n5 in Japanese, barely know any Chinese, know no Korean at all>Make a comicComics are dead>Make a graphic novelI don't even know if those sell at all>Make a webcomicI hate webcomics and don't know what appeals to people who read and buy them>Some secret other option
>>8002496Why would you make your manga in japanes? Just make it in English, there's an audience for western manga style comics
>>8002498Is there any manga publishers in America? No? So who am I publishing to? Probably someone in Japan, where if it makes the cut, I'm going to have to know Japanese to properly articulate my ideas.
>>8002500>Is there any manga publishers in America? No?SatAM? Iconiccomics? Darkhorse? The french have a few I think. There's also self publishing
Painting somehow seems too easy to me... Is that really it?Learning to draw is much harder than painting.
Unless you do realistic watercolor paintings. That shit is hardcore
>>8002505>Manga>Gives comic publishers
how the fuck do you draw when the world is going to shit? This year alone has been the worst out of the 2020s and we're not even halfway through the year. Every day its some new fucking disaster or another thing I love goes to shit. Anime I like gets delayed or is botched. Games I used to like release the worst sequel ever. I have nothing I want to draw anymore. Everything I love has turned to shit.
>>8002544>there's an audience for western manga style comics>western manga style comics>manga style comicsAlso anon be real with me do you think the highly competitive Japanese market is the best route to go for publishing where they favor their own over outsiders unless its really good
>>8002616Some of the libraries around me are old and large enough to have a decent selection of art books. I go there sometimes and flip through some, occasionally taking photos or notes of things I want to remember. Also, 90% of the children's illustrated section will be dire. But the remaining 10% will be quite marvelous. Maybe take a bit of time searching rather than drawing.Mostly, I draw for family members-- Christmas, birthdays, whatever. Nobody needs me to buy them a toaster or phone charger. Holiday cards are pretty good, too. You get to send a bunch of people your own work. Stickers work, too.
>>8002512I think that everyone agrees that creating the underlying drawing is the hardest part and coloring it is less of a challenge
>>8002490Sending you good energy, anon
>>8002616You can be the one to make the good stuff, but I confess I thought to stop doing everything and just consume older things like games.
I'm 27. This is the best I can do. I know that saying that I've been drawing my whole life doesn't mean anything and that I should be counting the hours if practice instead, but I think I've drawn a lot and I'm still mediocre. I don't think I'll ever be good. I like drawing and I won't stop though. I should probably stop worrying and actually work on some projects. But man does it feel bad when where you are and where you think you should be are so far apart
>>8002730It’s /beg/ but there are people who are worse than you.The key to improving is to really push yourself and not settle for less. Figure out why your drawings are falling short and ruthlessly correct those mistakes
>>8002734Maybe I'm just too lazy, not in the "play games and jerk off" way, but intellectually lazy, incapable of self improvement. It's a sad thought but whatever, I'm tired right now and shouldn't make sweeping statements like that
>>8002730Leanr better construction. Learn perspective. Then you will improve a lot.
>>8002730you need feedback to improvepick an artist you really like and use them as your quality metricas you progress through a drawing put it next to one of their pieces and ask yourself where are you falling short compared to them
i can't decide between having a dead twitter that i only post art on occasionally, or actually using twitter but (a) annoying the 20 people who followed me for art by posting other stuff, or (b) annoying the people who followed me for other stuff by occasionally flashbanging them with bad anime art.either way i wouldn't post enough to justify having 2 accounts.
>>8002747I always felt like talking to myself on twitter. I think it's best to just post art and that's it. Unless you already have some kind of community there, then there also isn't really a reason to post your thoughts there.
>>8002739>>8002742Maybe I should go to some kind of art class
>>8002760I wouldn't expect too much much from art schools. It's not rare that artists who went to art school completely forget what they learned there. The most important thing is that you try to fogure things out yourself. Also with the internet you don't even need art school anymore. You can find better teachers online.
>>8002747doesn't matterpost whatever you want>>8002760that's also an optionthe problem with anonymous feedback is that it's often unqualified or simply doesn't align with what you want to do with your artso the best it can do is stay generic (i.e. learn perspective, construction, values, anatomy, etc)
I'm trying to paint bell pepper and it's kicking my ass. I only did preliminary drawing and already struggling to put all the reflected light in shadows in all these bumps. And it's only one of 11 more paintings I have to do. Also my back hurts and sun keep sneaking in and ruining my light.
>>8002778>
I've gotten so little critique or feedback on my art I'm genuinely considering sending it to some chatbot and trying to get some comments from there..Has anyone tried that?I generally like my art but it's got zero reach. other artist in disc seem to like it, and so do anons on other boards, but no one sees my stuff on SNS.
>>7997211Yeh, it can be fun, especially if you combine it with normal digital art.Pure prompting is kinda limited, so tard wrangling with drawing helps a lot.But sometimes I just prompt whatever monster girl strikes my fancy.And sometimes I draw trad too.
>>7997211No. I don’t know how.
>>8002712I just got back from the hospital, his surgery went well. Thank you Hatsune Miku.
drawing is like going to work and then at the end of your shift, your boss flips a coin to decide if you will get paid for that day.
Wait...maybe it's good that I'm hyperfocusing on my art all day, but I need to focus on technical and aesthetic problems and not existential artist woes
>>7997211No. I don't express my ideas through words. I just draw them. Trying to express an idea in words for a dumb machine to interpret and gacharoll an image is a completely alien concept to me.
>Be diagnosed with ADHD but never told about it>Develop bipolar disorder but not realize it for years until my issues got so blatantly bad that it caused me to lose my job>Even after treatment with lithium which largely reduced the mood changes, still afflicted with near constant brain fog and what I thought was depression>These episodes are so bad that driving is legitimately dangerous, often try to leave to work and have to turn around and go home for fear that I'll get in an accident>Ataxia, slurred speech, horrible depression, can't think, on some days I can't do anything but lay in bed and scroll youtube because literally everything else, even vidya, is a monumental effort>even arthritic symptoms and muscle pain that gets worse and worse over time to the point that I have to stop and get out of the car on long drives because it's too painful to keep driving>Realize that these episodes tend to hit after eating and that I feel better on days when I don't eat>it's gluten>gluten causing an inflammation response that's severely affecting both body and mind>God only knows how long I've had it and what damage it's done to my brain, for all I know it could be responsible for my ADHD in the first place, or at the very least made it worse>Even after learning that, still spend almost literal months in the same state because gluten is in almost everything, mostly because of yeast extract, and every time I screwed up by not meticulously scouring the ingredients of every single thing I ate it was guaranteed to be nearly two days of straight misery, meaning that I could lose almost an entire week just by eating the wrong thing on two days of it>only just now managed to get through (almost) an entire month without gluten contact>tl;dr my life has been ruined by three layers of life altering health conditions with all their powers combined to fuck my shit up as thoroughly as possibleAs you might imagine, this isn't very conducive to drawing :)I'm so tired, family.
>>8003682>>Be diagnosed with ADHD but never told about it>>Develop bipolar disorder but not realize it for years until my issues got so blatantly badI think I'm in a similar boat. Sometime I wonder how different my life would be if I didn't live in a country that views mental health as american nonsense or white people shit. I feel like I'm going to live being forever forced to tough it out. The worst part is how people treat it as if you don't care or aren't trying or lazy. Or that your mood swings or depression is just you being rude or unreasonable
>>8002624I think it's a more likely route to get my work sold the most, which popular mangas have been released by western com- *cough* "manga" publishers?
>>8003682>Be diagnosed with ADHD at 4>Put on Ritalin 20mg at 4>Start severely hallucinating and having CLEAR symptoms of psychosis... At 4>Diagnosed with bipolar at 6>Put on antipsychotics alongside stimulants at 7>Quit all my meds at 10>proceed to draw every single day from 12 to 14, no breaks at all>Live perfectly fine until 14, when I did acid>Diagnosed with schizoaffective bipolar, go through psychosis for 4 years>Recover, miraculously, day by day getting better until 18, what I would call "fully recovered">Mother suddenly develops alcoholism, makes me and brother homeless at 20>Still drawing, start making a game while homeless, pure vent art>No longer homeless, 4chan whore invites me to live with them, abusive situation>Move out at 21>Move in with brother, suddenly no longer have a drive to make art>Make art anyway>Be 24 with no drive, working on a manga, occasionally deal with delusions, barely holding on to goals at all
>>8003682So, are you like celiac or something different?
>>8003682nigga 20 words or less next time
>>8003407Which is why we need socialism!
>just now realized that one of my uploads got randomly removed on newgroundsWeird. I've seen what they keep up on there and it wasn't that low quality or weird
>>8003932I'm not even scouted either and only have double digits followers so its wouldn't show up in their precious art portal either
>>8003836>goes into the water cooler talk thread>is confused that people are talking around the water cooler
>>8003938exactly, water cooler, not facebook
The porn I draw tends to give equal attention to male and female characters. I generally draw fairly generic male characters so that others can relate to them. However, I often wonder if I should create characters of other races for people who aren’t white. I’ve considered creating multiple versions of the same image with different protagonists, as well as trying my hand at video games and allowing users to create their own avatars.In the end, I often ignore all of this because I don’t have much time to draw. Perhaps I should stop overthinking and just draw whatever works best for the illustration.
>>8003940Phone addicted normie, go back to tiktok
I do not regret spending $100 on kolinsky sable brush
This was kinda fun. Wasn't trying to copy it 1:1, just get the general feel across and have fun.
Any anons here also paint minis? My airbrush spray booth is now in my PC room. Even though I have a ventilation booth, I'm wondering if I should cover my screen tablet with a towel or something just in case to avoid any fine mist getting on it
>>8002884>>8001508>>7999721>>7996495what's going on here?
>>8002884>>8001508>>7999721>>7996495AI SLOP
>>8002730I feel sick. The bad thoughts won't go away. I will never have what I want because I'm fundamentally flawed. I want to puke
struggling after almost a month of only getting crabbed or getting no (You)s. when i get crit it's always the same guy telling my the same things repeatedly whoch stresses me out because i can't fix the things he wants to me to fix. maybe i should just learn and practice for an entire year before trying to seek feedback again. i don't feel like posting every day when i improve like maybe 0.1% per drawing is helpful nor does anyone enjoy seeing my art.
>>8005163you may want to take notes on what categories of fundies people tell you to work on, work on one of them for 2-4 weeks via studies and sketched applications, then ask for feedback specifically for what you studied.try not to get stressed. you can't wholly "fix" your own art, just make it better than the last time you attempted it.
AHHH FINISHING AN ILLUSTRATION TAKES SO LONG EVERY DAY I DISCOVER A NEW WAY THAT THIS HOBBY IS GAY AS FUCK THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME BACK TO THE DRAWING TABLE
>>8005163>i can't fix the things he wants to me to fixAsk that guy or someone else to show you an example of what the fix looks like? Like ask them to redline your drawing. It might sound cheeky, but you also might find a kind soul who’s willing to help you
