Why are the most commercially successful artists in our society all prebegs? People like Dav Pilkey, Jim Davis, Charles Shulz, etc.
>>7991731those are just strip comic cartoonists. Have you looked into the skilful people of MAD magazine? people like jack davis and wally wood, they are quite famous
>>7991737Anon, the people I mentioned have generated hundreds of millions in revenue. Even billions, in the case of Peanuts.
>>7991731/ic/ wishes they could be half as skilled as Shulz
>>7991753Yeah man, that hand tremor really brought out the soul or whatever.
>>7991757It literally and unironically did
>>7991731People like simplicity.
>>7991731Ooooh my god you fucking chud, not everything has to be a fully rendered ultra-realistic depiction of the gods pissed by Michelangelo himself or gooner anime slop.If you have a compelling story, characters, vision etc people will like it, simple as. God it gets so tiring to see this pre-beg/int/adv/faggot bullshit being flung around everywhere JUST DRAW BRO NOBODY REALLY CARES
>>7991731Cause most of society arent fucking art nerds and social retards like those who frequent /ic/ and have a retarded power level system for fucking art
>>7991903>not everything has to be a fully rendered ultra-realistic depiction of the gods pissed by Michelangelo himselfWhy not?
>>7991731what you're talking about are newspaper comic strip artists, and mainly the newspaper just gives a fuck about how fast you can shit out 4~6 panels since they need a strip for tomorrow's paper. newspapers are a relic of the past these days so we're not going to be getting a new jim davis anymore. i'd be amazed if someone could reach garfield levels of franchising on their twitter webcomic.
>>7992118and this plays into the attention economy, in the past just about everyone would read the paper every day, getting syndicated by a comic strip syndicate means you are now an instant household name put in front of tens of millions of eyes across the nation every day. twitter isn't going to give you that sort of attention even if you pay for the checkmark and bot your account to hell and back.
>>7991731>Dav Pilkey, Jim Davis, Charles Shulz, etc.These people actually went and drew something into of sketching some Loomis shit in between suicide attemptsIn the case of Jim Davis he played the game and made a relatable character in the form of a cat who eats, is lazy and hates mondays after Jim went through multiple rejections and failed comic strips
>>7991731It's less about their art, and what they did with their art. Art can absolutely help grab attention, but the ultimate means to success, is the story/characters/jokes/whatever it is you're illustrating with your art.People don't love Charlie Brown because of his cute design, they love Charlie Brown because of his character.>>7991815I actually like the earlier art of Peanuts more, but I can see why others may like the more wobbly line.
>>7991731Appeal. There are artists who are absolutely fantastic technically but their art has little to no appeal and there are artists who never bothered learning "fundies" but understand appeal. And of course there are the rare few which have both.
>>7991970>t. super weenie perma pre /beg/
>newspapers are an irrelevant medium>no comic strip will ever catch mainstream attention again
>>7992865I get what you mean, but just the medium changed.Comic Strips are now purely digital and social media is the newspaper.
>>7992869It's more than just the medium being different, the culture itself is so fractured now. Will there ever be a comic strip with the same cultural reach as Garfield again? I guess the closest thing would be tiktok memes or something. But that's not a comic strip obviously, it's not 2D drawn art.
>>7992876 there's a billion unfunny quirky chungus twitter comic strips made to sell landfill merch, just like garfield.
>>7991731You have a reductive and mistaken view of what illustration actually entails, and forget that all of those people you mentioned are fucking comic authors, and comics are a multidisciplinary art form that merge illustrations and writing. You're also making the false equivalence of a simple art style with an unrefined one, and you're totally ignoring the evocation of pathos that is the reason Peanuts especially is a cultural juggernaut. If you were interested in art as a means of creative expression you'd understand that. People who sincerely use terms like "permabeg" seem mostly to be involved in illustration to satisfy their egos.
>>7992931Also the reading flow is really good. Most american comics from the past used to have a really bad reading flow
>>7992876Everything is cringe and numbing yourself with every possible addiction on one extreme and doing nothing but seeking validation by parroting or consuming the correct opinion™ on the other extreme.Most who do comics have to represent a side or they will be irrelevant and ignored.The same way as if you aren't capable of making incredibly impressive technical work or make anime porn of the flavor of the week, you won't be getting anywhere in the digital landscape.Things like Peanuts and Garfield had their success because the social climate was not as heavily and extremely overrepresented as it is the case now.What you got now? Politics or romance or merely inane virtue signaling or other flavor of genuine slop.Remember; popular art always reflects the state of a society.And it's getting that bad that good writers and artists, aren't bothering anymore since the audiences genuinely suck and want to eat slop now even more than ever in recorded history.
>>7992865Not true stuff like Nerd and Jock, Abuse orc and the Elf&Human would've been modern day comic strip replacements if newspapers were still relevant(assuming they'd even get looked at for the chance to have their work picked up in a non social media world) as anon said the medium changed.
>romance uwu fuzzy feelings slop>never head of the orc one>elf making le silly face slopshit like that wouldn't survive a non-social media audience
>>7992978>shit like that wouldn't survive a non-social media audienceI have read through the entirety of Funky Winkerbean. Yes, it would.
>>7992980Incorrect. Because i say so and you're probably into weird shit and mentally ill or autistic, given your absolutely retarded reply as if you like eating shit means it's not actually feces you're eating.Now say your lines.
>>7992978Remind me again how many years has andy capp been running for again?
>le old is le cringe>silly faces or sex as the punchline? NOW THATS COMEDYthe only handicap here is you, retard.
>>7991731Easily Schulz. His style, to me, is the Western equivalent of chibi, so it's incredibly marketable.>>7991753I wish I could draw like Schulz
>>7992991I don't know how to read
Why so angry?
>he said the lineyay!
why are memes more popular than fancy art?
>>7992865>newspapers are an irrelevant mediumFrankly, I'm stunned that newspapers haven't leaned on their comic strips even harder. What's more likely to grab attention on social media posts? A comic, or a dry headline linking to their article?If they used their comics more effectively, perhaps even paying for an original comic strip just for their publication, and used more illustration or interesting photography for their news stories, they'd probably have more success in the digital landscape.But that'd cost money, and businesses don't like spending money, so...
