In my experience art teachers have an immediate, visceral reaction to these types of artstyles and swiftly order anyone trying to replicate them to hang themselves and I don't know if its just my experience or if at some point everyone who studied illustration and gives classes today got together and agreed that detail, black lines and high contrast is cringe and anyone who does it shall be drawn and quartered preferably in front of the whole class
>>7993699It's a low IQ thing.Iirc there was an image or post explaining that people who have a negative reaction to black and white drawings or pictures without colors, usually tend to be lower intellectually able, since they cannot discern known shapes in colorless pictures.My theory is that normies really only see shapes and are incapable of translating line art into actual pictures because it's already way too abstract to them, as if you were witnessing a blurry mess of sketchy random lines.This is coupled with the deflection that>real life has no lineswhen even through painting, you have to draw imaginary lines by employing ambient occlusion and shadows to give the illusion of a consistent, realistic mass.
>>7993699it's because it's cheap fantasyslop, anon. your teacher is bored, you are bored, I am bored, everyone is bored. the west has remixed the same shit for decades atp
>>7993721It has nothing to do with it being black and white, you mongoloid
>>7993721I wonder if that's connected to the phenomena of normies frequently struggling to emotionally connect with drawings (comic art, animation, etc), hence the whole push for naturalism and photorealism in CG (animated movies, video games) and the underlying justification behind live-action adaptations.Last time I checked there's a strong correlation between IQ and empathy, particularly cognitive empathy (theory of mind, understanding why someone is upset), but there's no apparent correlation with affective empathy (something autists have lots of).I work with autistic children and they tend to have more affective empathy towards other children, as well as animals and objects and fictional characters.
>>7993721I hate how fucking everything has to be about IQ and "iM sO FuCkIng sMarT" bullshit.
>>7993771it's always a retarded fucking statement too, the most popular drawn media in the history of the world is black and white and line based, evidently "normies" have no issue with it
>>7993699this style specifically or just lineart? cause that image sucks, its too noisy and the forms are not great, look at the dwarf dude, wtf is that.
>>7993699Why don't you find out what qualifications are required for teaching art at the level where you encounter this mindset? Mexico has a large ideological government, so it's entirely plausible that every art teacher has the same education, and their only purpose is to produce more art teachers with the same education, which is what you'll be receiving.>>7993721Also you should kill yourself already.
>>7993699That looks like shit
>>7993721>normies really only see shapes and are incapable of translating line art into actual pictures because it's already way too abstract to them,I wouldn't go that far but retards are definitely more impressed with color than structure
>>7993765Might have to do with that. Media that emotionally triggers/appeals to normies usually is extremely shallow and in your face, because the normie doesn't comprehend nuance and needs to be told on top of being shown.And something that isn't photorealistic might trigger a pure animalistic uncanny valley effect, as in; they are not even aware of their own physical and emotional responses despite being "humans" who should be intellectually more advanced than mere feral animals, hence the low IQ assumption.The theory of mind is a good point. Even wild animals like crows have that and they're deemed quite smart despite being birds.I think non-color non-painterly drawings/art trigger the normie's lizard brain in ways we might only speculate, but what we can say that that might really be a sign of low intelligence and lower emotional/instinctual stability.
>>7993801I'd offer a counterpoint: corporate logos and the corporate art style like alegriaWhy are they always shapes? Because market research found out long ago that people have a way easier response recognizing shapes rather than actual detail.As for why that is, you can probably make an educated guess it had to do with hunting and trying to recognize fleeting, small or fast prey.An eye for detail might be a gatherer trait.
>>7993811Because they're designed to be made in vector shapes by graphic designers who can't draw, you dumb fuck. Literally nobody on the planet thinks it looks good, it took over for the same reason slop is taking over.
>>7993817>unreasonable hostility>doesn't even ponder the "why" to his own statementthanks for proving my points, normie
>>7993820Because it's cheap, you stupid fucking nigger, it became "popular" because it was so cheap to produce due to any retard with a mouse being able to crank 20 of them a day that it was literally cheaper than stock photos.There's nothing unreasonable about being hostile to a worthless opinionated nigger who has no fucking clue what he's talking about, you brown fucking monkey.
>>7993811>>7993820I love you anon, thank you for being nice on this fucking shithole.
>heh, fucking low iq normie cattle can't even recognize structure, they're so stupid line is beyond them don't you know dumb normie retards can't even connect with drawings they're so fucking shallow and incapable of understanding nuance heh they're basically feral animals>wtf don't be mean to me on 4chan bawwwwwwww~
>>7993823>still not even attempting to figure out the "why" it's still being used despite being "hated by everyone">keeps making absolutists statements and insults and completely missing the pointlogos and shapes are easily recognizable even by monkeys, hence they're still being used by corporations because they are proven to be easily readable by the masses.Even kids recognize logos from an early age.It's really that simple and obvious.The costs and production are secondary are irrelevant to the current discussion, since if a marketing thing was ineffective; why would they keep using it?I should have inb4'ed your reply because i knew it was coming.>but ur a poopyheadwowyou're totally owning me, anon-kun>>7993826luv u 2 bb
>>7993841No, you dumb nigger, I literally spelled it out for you: it's cheaper. EVERY fucking mass design choice comes down to cost. Logos and shapes existed before alegria, but weren't used over photos because logos were fucking expensive and photos were cheap. Paintings were used before photos because photos were fucking expensive. Line drawings were used in catalogues and ads well into the 20th century over paintings or photos because printing the latter was fucking expensive.Fuck off with your retarded nigger headcanon and look at actual historical trends, faggot.
>>7993776>>799377180 iq type posts
>>7993849sorry i don't have a logo for (you)
>>7993851sure, i'll bite, onceit's always the same with you people, your kin is as stupid as the niggers and trannies you always shit on, the moment you're questioned to start calling names and insultingyou're no more different than those "low iq subhumans" you desperately want to feel superior against, you talk the same, act the same and cry the same, even using the same tactics tooget better bait, i've seen this one specifically on /ic/ more than 100 times just this year alone
>>7993841>The costs and production are secondary are irrelevant to the current discussion, since if a marketing thing was ineffective; why would they keep using it?it is effective precisely because it's cheapit's marketing, frequency beats "quality" every time
>>7993857Not what we are discussing.
>uuuuhm yeah mephis is effective on the consumers because it's cheap to produce for the companiesthese are not even mental gymnastics, it's straight up trying to glitch out of reality
>>7993854
>>7993721The insane metldowns this post has caused shows it is incredibly spot on.
>>7993863>no sources>"please chatgpt give me an essay on thing i tell you to say"Just take the L man
>>7993866>t. logotardLet's see how many retweets your logo got
>nonsensical post>randomly wants to compare digital dicksabsolutely fuming
>posts reaction image instead of a logohehI accept your seething concession
>epic witty gotchaholy reddit
>checks anime girl to logo ratio ittOHNONONONO AHAHAHAHAAHAAA
>>7993858it literally is tho
This thread is everything wrong with this fucking board.I wish they nuked this fucking shithole and only /i/ remained.At least they actually fucking DRAW.
it's just the /v/ and /co/ shitters and various other tourists ruining this board since they all come here to insult people and derail any discussion.
>>7993876and yet you're not on /i/ but herecurious
>>7993864It's because that's a well known schizophrenic, don't be stupid
>>7993849It's always cheaper to not have any pictures, so you should really really shotgun yourself in the face now.
>>7994074You're replying to a tourist
>>7993699Probably just in Mexico. Art schools don't exist where I am.
>>7993721>to be fair, you need a high IQ to appreciate pulp magazine illustrations
>>7993699Pretty sure it was because it looks like dogshit and not because it was black and white.>>7993721Normies have no self-awareness, ego too big, no empathy and are basically evil. They are not stupid.
>>7993876There ARE draw threads, y'know?
>>7993811It's because it straight up has more visual clarity. This is universal and not an IQ thing or a hunter gatherer thing. They briefly want your attention without shocking or overwhelming you. >>7993823>the apple logo is simple because budget limitationsYou're even dumber than the person you're responding to.
>>7994308Who are you quoting?
>>7994548My point is that it's the same design philosophy in a broader sense.
>>7994308>It's because it straight up has more visual clarity. This is universal and not an IQ thing or a hunter gatherer thing. They briefly want your attention without shocking or overwhelming you.People want to disagree and insult so hard they always end up proving whatever they wanted to disagree with.It's insane how it is the same almost every single time.
>>7994594I never said I entirely disagree. I just disagree with the notion that it has anything to do with hunters/gatherers. It's as simple as big thing > small thing.
You can go as far as comparing speaking/reading comprehension to drawing to make a point:You have the typical drawing shapes vs construction.All people always start with drawing shapes, whereas a higher skilled artist will always build/construct an image, which happens to exactly overlap how most people speak and read:The great majority of people, by default do not even attempt to construct sentences or dissect/try to understand what others are saying, but merely read a sentence and only react on the vibe i.e. the "shape" of it and speak themselves in shapes and idioms, because it's easy, it is how they learned to speak and they never required or attempted to actually speak properly or write anything beyond what they "feel". It is why the average person gets lost in anything requiring some higher comprehension and usually starts lashing out for no reason.This is very unironically tied to IQ. Because lower IQ, means less critical thought, means lower impulse control, means higher animalistic/primal behavior.So you get replies that make absolutely no sense and only showcase the responder's feelings of inferiority, hostility due to having triggered the equivalent of the uncanny valley and the absolute lack of critical thought, since constructed sentenced are almost an alien and abstract concept to them since they cannot identify the "shape" of it, so misunderstandings and emotional kneejerk reactions are their responses, even though they would not need to respond to it in the first place but the lower impulse control makes them go out their way to respond because the "shapes" they hallucinate in a sentence trigger the fight of flight response.It's also why ragebait is so effective in the modern era, not because of the bait itself but because the average normie having absolutely no impulse control given general intelligence is going down.Monkeys can learn sign language.>>7994612it dounderstand small thing = understand big thing
I'll do you one more:Pornography, no matter how you do it, is entirely and absolutely "shape language" in the eyes of the viewer.It is why no matter the skill level and execution, it will be liked to some degree, because shapes are THE common denominator and you have billions of years of evolution telling you to look out for specific shapes.
>>7994622Nice schizo babble, but I'm not turned on by your drawings.
>>7994626>he recognized the shapesgg thanks for playing
>>7994628At first I thought the top left was a nose but based on the context I guess it's a butt
>>7994635>at first i thought it was another shape i have evolved to look out for but then it was another shape i evolved to look out forggyou played yourself againjust stop, man
>>7994637If you didn't make it skin colored it could've been a flower or a cloud.
>7994640thank you, chatgptvery cool
>>7994643>we've evolved to look out for pyramids
>>7993699high contrast was *NOT* achieved here, only on some parts of the creatureits GARBAGE.
>>7993771i wish these people would die, if i could magically get them all into a room and just DRRR RRATTATATATATATTATA i would in a heartbeat
>>7993790HUE, LIGHTING THAT MAKES SENSE? AND CONTRAST WAS ACHIEVED THROUGH COMPOSITION INSTEAD OF RANDOM SPLOSHES OF INK? WHAT IS THIS MAGIC
>>7995300But unironically, what is this magic? How did he make such a thing? How much time did it take?
>>7995296High IQ post
>>7995309he painted it, then the engraver rendered it in line
Russ Nicholson is GOATed and all the people ITT who hate him are plebs.
>>7995633>>>/tv/
>>7993783>Mexico has a large ideological government, so it's entirely plausible that every art teacher has the same education, and their only purpose is to produce more art teachers with the same education, which is what you'll be receiving.I don't live in mexico but I live in almost practically the same region and I feel like this describes a lot with my time at art school for some courses
