Why do AI cultists piss and shit themselves and get mad defensive when I say I don't like their sloppa and won't be interacting with it? Is it some inherent inferiority complex?
You already answered your own question.
>>7995798It’s due to their inherent underlying misanthropy. Most of them were bullied in school and never had any friends, technology was their only solace. They hate people and never fit in with them so they love the idea of people being made “obsolete” by technology, proving that everything the jocks were ever good at was never really that difficult in the first place, they love the idea of finally being able to have social skills or artistic skills of their own via technological prosthesis, they salivate at the thought of everyone’s unique talents amounting to nothing as everyone dissolves into the same pool of homogenized mediocrity.It’s like trannies bragging about how they can fool straight men into sleeping with them. They know they’re defective, they know they’ll never have the real thing, so they lash out at the real thing and want to destroy it.
go ask /g/, faggotthis is a drawing board
>>7995810This. Computer nerds are subhumans, from Peter thiel to the average Silicon Valley slave. We need to bully them even harder
>>7995810>see flanders getting posted >absolute nuke of a truth follows
>>7995810Holy manifesto
People who arc their back for AI have become pretty intolerable. They will genuinely think that posting a few screenshots of artists on twitter not wanting to interact with AI is justification for infinite AI slop in every area. AI in every search, ai in all tech, ai in games, ai generation of videos on mass just in hopes of making a profit from people who think its real. There is no end to the shit that ai, ai art, and ai videos have brought upon us, but it pisses people off, and to genuine losers, people being pissed off is their only way to feel superior to anyone.
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>>7995798I'm not anti-AI which gives me the perspective that AI prooompters won't accept they're redundant middlemen. They're mindbroken ideaguys who don't realize the accessibility argument isn't in their favor. If anyone can make the exact same shit with little effort, why should I give you money or attention? I'll just do it myself if I want to see it. Usually they'll emphasize the unique novelty/genius/creativity of their vision, and in return you kindly ask they put the fries in the bag.
>>7995798they think they "skipped the line" with ai and you should like their art because its technically well done.
>>7999217>put the fries in the bagLiterally everyone who says this plebbit one-liner works in fast food themselves or is a leeching NEET who contributes nothing to society
>>7995810AI prompters on average are more tech illiterate though, that's why you see so many of them so proud of being able to set up a local model and constantly go on about their 30+ step creative, high effort and skillful workflow with heavy emphasis on the "manual tools" for skillful and effortful post processing.sorry but us loser nerds hate them more than anyone else.
>>7995810holy SHIT what a TRVKEbased flanders poster
>>7995798Oh yeah? Well I just put your art through the sloppatron to show my surperiority of you. Get pwnd, NERD!
>>7995810it's ironic how much they talk shit about "lefty art trannies" when their whole idea of "democratising art" sounds exactly like trannyism (pretending to be what they are not) and uber communism. they are, in fact the "art trannies". it's fucking hilarious
>>7995810HOLY TRUTH NUKE
>>7995810Something that's worth bringing up is that a lot of AI cultists are autistic guys who thought they could become artists by throwing themselves into the deep end of the pool (constructive drawing or painting) only to immediately get stuck (for obvious reasons), get frustrated, and then go "I just don't have talent" followed by giving up on drawing.You can't brute force drawing especially not by starting out with drawabox or grinding forms from various angles. There is no cheat code to getting better at art, and form/perspectivemaxxing certainly isn't the way, at least not for beginners.The only way you're going to improve is if you're studious and dutiful. Draw a subject from memory, study it multiple times (trace it, copy it, etc), then draw it from memory again. Then pick a related subject, and begin the process once more.Most autists aren't going to do this because it not only takes a lot of time and a lot of work, but because it's easier to pretend art is some magical process that only a gifted few have access to.
>>8000484They're playing both sides, classic divide and conquer tactic - the only reason American politicians haven't been lynched so far
>>7995810screencapped for posterity.
>>8009054>>7995810What does /ic/ get out of an embarrassing larp like this? No one here is enviable. This is a haven for seething, no-talent rejects who never made it and we all know it.
>>7995810How did this slop get so many (you)s? I don't believe for a second that the average techbro had a more fucked up childhood than the average person who has ended up here of all places.>anons are just bitter incel losers>tumblrites just have daddy issues>rightists were never accepted so they blame an outgroup>centrists were never accepted so they're still trying to appeal to everyone>leftists were never accepted so they hate the status quoThis how everyone explains away the views of anyone they hate nowadays. It doesn't actually explain anything, it just makes you feel better about yourself to believe that the people you hate are more pathetic than you are.
>>7995818Hey, friendly fire. Some of us computer nerds don't care for AI and had jock friends in school. Art, programming, and cooking are all related and fun.
>>8009067it's fun to go with the joke sometimesand it's fun to pretend that the aibros aren't the modern jocksevery single one I met was a mega normie
>>8000484I think it's weird that US MAGA rightoids are all pro AI while leftists and commies are against it when it should be the opposite.though I understand that right wingers in america are more libertarian than conservative and commies lie all the time
>>8009095I really just mean the rich weirdos like musk and thiel and all witty much anybody who worships technology like a god and has an inferiority complex due to not being able to fit in. Being an i tellectual is great. Being a socially inept retard is not. These people entire motivations are greed and resentment of normal people. Resentment also is found in the anti-tech people as well. Ted kaczynsky was the other side of the coin, he was anti-tech but started bombing people because somebody build a road in an area he like to hike. His entire philosophy was a temper tantrum for being a socially inept loser. AI enthusiasts are resentful misanthropes with a bottomless hunger for money amd an inferiority complex. >>8009142It’s because the dumb ones can make propaganda with ease, and the rich ones can squeeze blood from a stone that is the public. Greed and ignorance amd bigotry all married together
>>8009141Depends on what you mean by “aibros”.The people who run these companies are obviously very intelligent and successful, no matter what else you say about them.But then you have a lot of random AI shills on the internet who are very open about hating their lives and they’re actively hoping that AI fucks everything up because they just want the world to crumble.Both groups of people are united by their hatred of normal, happy people who just want to live their lives.
>>8009169There are also a whole lot of people who just like having a magic robot that makes them pictures
>>8009170Seemingly not as many as you might think, tbqh. If I don’t specifically go looking for AI art then I almost never see anyone use it. I do see people shitting on it though, even in totally random communities that are completely unrelated to art and tech.
>>8009172most AI content is video. fake vloggers, AI react slop, explained and video essay channels with AI scripts and AI illustrations.The market for illustrations is a lot smaller and there are more networks of trust, what avenues for easy profit there were (selling AI portraits on fiver etc.) are already saturated, and now it's a lot easier to extract money from elsewhere.
>>8009172Most people who use it don't post their stuff, they just jerk off in quiet.
>>7995798Because they know deep down it is a fraud where their look and style and everything is based on what model they use and what version it goes by. You don't build up. A prompt that produced a great picture becomes shit by just a flick of a version jump. The closest thing an artist has to that is quality loss from less practice or going to refs.Digital artist skills transfer back to paper more readily far more than AI prompting.
>>8014938(I'm not saying refs are bad, I just mean how stuff can look different based on how the refs get used. Kitbashing refs is something I've been trying to do more so it is on the mind and the photoshopping approach vs mood boarding approach vs unaltered also has been a factor. I Also just like taking pictures of random things I see walking around so I have a bit of a library from that)
>>7995810>>8000718Love yourself to the maxi kiss your eyes
>>7995798Because artists denounced NFTs, they wanted nothing to do with it and that got NFTbros in a tizzy so they treat Ai like a long form revenge scheme to ruin the Artists and when the Artists still refuse to admit defeat of any kind it gets them fumingThey really want Ai to work so it proves their point but most people aren't interested in it's "creative" advantages unless they're idiots who see Ai as actual competition and not just this thing that promotes cheap and easy mediocrity that some bigwigs will want to push to justify their investments and layoffs
>>7995798Ultimately, I think it all comes down to a sense of inadequacy.If they're really that invested in the images generated for them, they likely have little else going on in their life; it's understandable that artists would get upset about their work being ignored, critiqued, or made redundant by AI, but what reason does a AI bro have?They have to spend hundreds of hours acquiring the skills to use AI.They didn't spend dozens of hours making a singular piece of work.They didn't grow up dreaming of being an AI proompter.So I can only assume their rage comes from the belief that this was their one chance at relevancy, at creating something. Perhaps they tried writing, or making music, or drawing, and simply failed at making anything passable, but AI does that for them. Now they can 'make' work like the creators they respect so much... except the public don't see it that way.And so the AI bros see their chance at being a 'somebody' slipping through their fingers.There's also the more "reasonable" AI bro, who just sees it as an easy means of saving money and effort, but these people tend to be sadistically gleeful at the idea of people losing jobs to AI, so they're really just as bad as the above.If I had to guess where their sense of superiority comes from, they probably feel a sense of importance from others losing their jobs while they keep theirs, seeing it as a validation of their position, their job, and their work.These people are basically the same as those writers who told the miners to 'learn2code'.While I don't see AI truly going away, I think the AI culture the these two fester in will disappear much like the NFT culture did.
>>7995810ok but what about eccentric artists who don't fit in with others by nature, because of the bad wiring that made them artists in the first place, who chose to self express through a craft rather than normal social interactions, those might prefer to draw alternative humans, humanoids, or creatures whom they could relate to instead? i never liked ai 'art', and have always wished this bs would stop or get phased out. the uncanny valley is always there no matter how realistic it gets. it's like on some level every ai image still has the 6 finger problem unresolved.
>>7995810This. Holy shit, dude.
>>7995798You know all those people who like the idea of being an artist, but not the part that involves working, or actually using your brain at all? They want to be counted as a legitimate artist, and they don't care about the details because it's just an ego thing for them. It's why they fight and cry and bitch about AI art being properly tagged, deluge art websites with it, or go out of their way to scrape artist websites with an anti-AI/anti-scraping policy. It's all about them in their mind, and whatever makes them feel good is right and anything in their way is wrong. Fucking dopamine addicts.
>>8009067Yep.The actual thing going on is that AI retards think that because things are easy for them they’re smart, and because they’re smart they’re entitled to things. They think that you’re retarded for putting in effort, and that it’s unfair that you get results from your efforts. They think that skill is a crutch because you have to apply and develop it.
>>7995798I've tried AI for art once and i stopped reason was that there is no point in actually using it at least for me because i like to create and do the process of drawing myself and when i used it it's just like great you did like 75% of what i asked you to do and im pretty sure i could finish it but what's the point if im not part of it at all ?
>>8020614The point is generate your gacha waifu while jerking off, constantly adding more fetish fuel to the prompt until you finish, then deleting all the images.
>>7995798>hehehe i tricked you by slipping my sloppa you guys can't tell the diff->I've been caught! But why?? It was perfect! You luddites singularity is here the AI gods WILL get better>It will! It would! In the future! But thunk of how it will and could! Have you ever think of the future of it will could and would?? It will/could/would be better AAAIIIEEEEEA
>>8009067most people are fairly pathetic when it comes to social interaction. the world is set up in such a way that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and everyone chooses the wrong target. the real actual 100% accurate demographic that is screwing most people over is social gatekeepers, if communication was more free and open in some way, humans would suffer far less. having winners and losers makes everything very abstract and confusing. we unironically need to kumbaya and like, love eachother, man.
>>7995810>made an entire trooncord seethe because this post was getting more (you) in a day than xhey would ever get in an entire month spamming this boardi love this guy
>>7995810>>8000718Fuck...!
I used to hate AI as much as the next d/ic/k but I've been playing around with it, like REALLY playing around with it and I'm having fun like a kid in the candy store. I'm still touching up the images and using my own sketches to feed it what I want. At the end of the day I really don't care what randos online think about "interaction" with AI. You weren't there in my lowest point in life, so fuck you.
>>8021046You took the easy way out, Anon. Sad.
>>8021046>>8021052>AI art is like suicide, everyone gets to suffer because they didn’t help me, but also it’ll never end
>>8009170Those people might get defensive about AI if they think you're judging them, but they're not praying for human expression to become obsolete. The normie who just wants funny images and the psycho who hates the human spirit are two different guys. I find the typical political alignment of the latter guy very surprising though
I'm sure 99% of AI slop comes from americans. It's in their genes to destroy and corrupt.
>>7995798I never understood the overall perception from the pro AI crowd where somehow being anti-AI is a liberal progressive (or woke) thing.There's a lot of straw manning and in general, grouping beliefs and values together in neat buckets is a very midwit thing to do.There's plenty of people who aren't liberals or progressives to know AI is not the answer to what are very human problems (market failures from bad zoning and the online space eating up everything, no arts education, gaming/consoomerism replacing any creative impulse people might have had, etc etc)
>>8021077If by “Americans” you mean Indians and Chinese and Jews who happen to physically reside in America then sure, maybe.No single race is more excited about AI than Indians, it’s honestly pretty fucking bizarre and I genuinely don’t understand it
>>7995818>We need to bully them harder.That just emboldens people usually. They need to be just left alone to their miserable selves and invited to join a welcoming art/music/writing/trades/etc community that challenges people to make things with skill. They need to be shown how cool having a skill is and to utilize it within a community, and realize that work too is a social activity.
>>8021087>invite themyou underestimate how insufferable and self absorbed such people are.You can ignore them if you don't have to be forced to be around them, but if you invite them in, then you got no right to complain.
>>8021081>I never understood the overall perception from the pro AI crowd where somehow being anti-AI is a liberal progressive (or woke) thing.Its called pattern recognition.Now, if you're a neo-nazi who also hates image generators for some reason, that's fine, but the terminally online lefties are generally more likely to hate it than non-lefties.
>yes goy don't you see your enemies hate it? that means its goodits not like right wing grifting was just invented tomorrow
>>8021081It's too early imo to label any existing political group as pro-AI or anti-AI. The alignments are still being worked out. You can find leftists who are pro-AI and anti-AI, same thing for rightists too.>>8021094Admittedly I feel like it's kinda weird to claim to value the past and tradition, and then turn around and say "oh we're replacing humans with robots? Yeah sure that's cool whatever"
>>7995810misanthropy is a poignant term for what i've been seeing.these people absolutely despise the human endeavor as a whole. they despise seeing human passion for things that aren't strictly utilitarian to them. one day, ai might actually completely take over all forms of art and expression.humanity will lose its purpose on that day.
>>8021094it's fucking insane how right wingers will just decide to support anything a leftist hatesit's like they have no other purpose besides owning the libs
>>7995810holy flanders TRVKE, I kneel.
>>7995810This strange revisionism where artists are up there with the jocks in this theory down to putting artistic skills next to social skills just sounds ridiculous lol the truth is they're closer to YOU people who genuinely feel like they made something and feel the need to defend it because of that even though what they made was tacky garbage
In 2D/3D you literally cannot fake competence and your experience. AI is really bad at faking those kinds of things the industry actually needs. For example, even to create 2d/3d art for a trashy game like Genshin Impact, you need an army of 3D and 2D artists, and it's simply impossible to fake the ability to draw art like that.On the other hand, the software dev industry is full of people who use AI to fake their portfolios, skills, and knowledge, fake their work experience, use AI during job interviews, and so on. There are plenty of stories about people who landed middle and senior software developer positions at large companies with zero work experience simply by faking their work history, lying on their resumes, and using cheating tactics during interviews (such as using AI during live coding, algorithmic sections and theoretical questions). It takes a couple of months to learn to program via some random online webdev bootcamp, but it takes your entire life to learn to draw industry-level art.Unlike software engineers, artists cannot fake their portfolios, because AI hasn’t reached a level where its 2d/3d work is indistinguishable from that of a real artist. You’ll need to attach actual examples of your work in your portfolio, which will be used to evaluate you. There are no 3-5 rounds of interviews, theoretical questions, LeetCode problems or live coding sessions like in the software engineering industry. In artist industry at most you’ll be given a take-home test assignment that you can complete over a couple of days in your own time.As an 3d artist you can just model and animate your own game assets and then vibecode the game logic and code without any programmer and software engineer required.A handcrafted 2d art for a splash screen for Krita is more in demand by open source projects than some random 1000-line code commit adding a useless feature nobody asked for.Artists are unironically way more in demand than coders right now.
>>8021167HAHAHAHAHAHAThis swarthy Indain is fucking seething. Hit dogs hollar, faggot!
>>8021171>Not only that, there's not a single (1) drawing in this thread. Not even a shit doodle or ms paint anything.Go to a draw thread then. Why would you think there'd be drawing in this thread?>Anyway, what do you think of this generated image?I think the glue on the screentone could be weakened, so it's not ideal, but it's perfectly functional
>>8021171Literally 0 AI models are capable of doing that, nice try.
>>8021171this drawing proves that the racist stereotypes I have been posting about ai bros are true and correct
>>8021226>the racist stereotypes I have been posting about ai bros are true and correctThe usual jeet insult or something more?
>>8021147When the goal is to make as much profit as possible, the human experience is just seen as another obstacle. Be it enjoying a nice summer day, making art for the sake of art, or even just having actual friends you prioritize over increasing shareholder value. Hell, the kids don’t even go outside anymore. They live life through a screen and many are basically forced at a young age to do what their parents think will give them a prosperous career. Look at all the software engineers who lack social skills or emotional intelligence. It’s hard to make art when you haven’t actually experienced life outside of books and artificial, digital environments. Of course AI is appealing to themI’m in the heart of the beast aka Silicon Valley. The folks here don’t know how to actually enjoy life. They just want to grind forever in hopes it’ll net them a profit and grant them a spot in the big boy club. Thiel, Zuckie and Musk are simply just the ones who went the furthest but the cult of technology and infinite growth is widespread here. It just dilutes whatever humanity one has. They struggle to form even basic human connections if it means sacrificing productivity. Many of them believe having a startup or huge ROI is enough to find an actual loving relationship. So many struggle in that pursuit (Think Citizen Kane) The world’s about balance, restraint, and experience. The Romans, Aztecs, and Chinese all figured that out millennia ago. From craving their statues with modest physique to diluting their wine to punishing those who accumulated too much wealth. Nowadays we reward the greedy and overly hedonistic. The same people we praise for making it big are the ones who don’t pay their fair share to society and wanna replace the human experience with their own artificial version of it via AI. Art, at least mainstream art, can not thrive in such an environment that values greed and a lack of dignity and consequence Schizo Rant Over
>>8021301Shut up commie retardArt for its own sake is profit if you think that the art is worth more than the resources you put in, that's literally what the word means
>>8021167If you read carefully, you're talking about skills. A thing you lack. Also, learn how to use punctuation and commas, seriously. Get fucked, thirdie.
>>8021046That dopamine hit only last few weeks or a few months tops. Then you'll just notice the shit that made it tedious when you want to get a specific result. /t. Illustriousfagging for a bit, until few months later when that becomes part of the workflow you'd start noticing all the tedious bits.
Whoever complains about a lack of drawings in random ass threads, in a highly compromised board, is an aisharter or the usual discord troll.It's like they never even consider that they've gotten infiltrated long ago.>inb4 proofso xhey'd stop? Nah, who am i gonna feed on then?>>7995810this post truly got them on pure fallout control
>>8021083>No single race is more excited about AI than Indians, it’s honestly pretty fucking bizarre and I genuinely don’t understand itThey hate hard work. They want everything to be easy. Antithesis to the American Protestant working ethic
>>8021655That’s definitely something I’ve noticed about them yeah. They’re hedonists in the extreme. I wonder if that’s just a brute fact that can’t be explained any further, or if there’s something archetypal about it that’s rooted in their ancient spiritual practices.
>Janny got baited into deleting non-ai pic because it believed it was ai.
>>8021091>you underestimate how insufferable and self absorbed such people are.can't be any worse than the circlejerk in this thread
>>8022472I think it’s normal for people to get a little emotional when their way of life is being threatened
>>8021481It's not tedious to me at all. I have mastered a workflow pretty early on that works for my needs.
>>8022790no one here is being threatened, you can still do your scribbles and shitposts just fine
>>8022472all i see is the same IP
>>8021409>If you read carefully, you're talking about skills. A thing you lack.Pyw before you discuss skill fag. and ur comparing your shitty art with athleticism this "we artists are the jocks of the art world and techbros are teh losers" stchick is so redddit. "anyone i dont like was bullied more than me and is ackually a pesky incel!!!!" Mentally still shoved in a locker.
>>8009142>I think it's weird that US MAGA rightoids are all pro AI while leftists and commies are against it when it should be the opposite.All lot of it was started as a reactionary response to seeing leftists in predominantly left wing institutions (fine arts and hollywood) get replaced. Honestly nothing feels better than seeing Concept artists or Hollywood Writers and Voice Actors be put out of work after all the anti trump/Right wing shit from this decade.
>>8023094MAGA rightoids are predominately senile boomers that don't know what a jpeg is. They do not possess the necessary skills to figure out that the early Will Smith devouring spaghetti video is not real. Anyone younger than 60 in that group is exclusively making money off of the rest of the crowd.Le lefties are mostly kids out of school and can still keep two thoughts in their head at the same time. They can be misguided latte sipping retards but concluding that contemporary AI grift is not good for anyone except for 5 guys is not difficult for them.It's not that deep.
