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As a near beginner, how many hours of drawing should I give myself before I can say confidently whether I'm shit or not/capable of improving? How many hours did it take until you noticed going from beginner to noticeable improvement?
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>>7996388
you can see improvement in less than 1 hour. just use this method with whatever you want to draw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj0lSGVgH3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_NuJIJ6wGY
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>>7996388
It’s impossible to give a strict number because it all depends on whether your practice methods are good or not. You can waste literally years on bad practice that does nothing for you and gets you nowhere. But then if you switch to worthwhile practice you can turn it around and start making progress.
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Try for at least 1000 hours (unironically)
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>>7996392
This and the DRAW method (diagnose what you suck at, repeated studies, active recall) are key to efficient improvement.

Spend a week getting comfortable with continuous line drawing, then another week on shapes, then 1-2 weeks on forms. Study gesture for about two weeks.

Then do the DSRB exercises, and make Active Recall (as exampled in the two YouTube links) a normal part of your habitual studying.

After that, learn values and light/shadow, then move onto painting/color.

>>7996388
Get some newsprint or sticky notes and go through an entire stack just studying something you like. The improvement will be clear and very motivating for you.
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>>7996388
Take a class
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>>7996392
Holy shit, anything but actually drawing
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>>7996392
This man cannot draw
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>>7997117
Formal art classes are hilariously worthless
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>>7997689
I think you underestimate how helpless the average newbie is
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>>7996846
>DRAW method
>diagnose what you suck at
>repeated studies
>active recall
what about the W?
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>>7997800
forgot the W, lol

the W stands for "wreck it" which means to try something new that you haven't done before (an unfamiliar subject, etc) in order to keep diagnosing and find more things to work on

It's not too relevant for fresh beginners because you kinda suck at everything, so just be specific with your goals.
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>>7996388
progress isn't linear. it's more like a staircase. every once in a while the clouds part and rapid progress is bestowed upon you but only if you practice regularly, do your homework and listen to feedback. it's like lifting where there are beginner gains as well.
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>>7997689
A single feedback, assignment, conversation with even bad art teachers is better than only self studying for someone who is still at the point of asking how many hours will it take me to get good lol
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>>7996392
Doesn't every beg get told to analyze their drawings, ask what's wrong, and then try again? The memory drawing is a nice twist, but this is just how you learn to draw, no?
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>>7996388
a sampling of average students
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA9PYkqvib4
a high iq japanese cherry pick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAjZoW6TvW0
in short, give yourself at minimum 3 years of mindful practice and see how far you can reach
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>>7998377
testing yourself by drawing from memory makes it obvious what you got wrong and helps to reinforce what you got right. most begs just mindlessly copy so they don't end up learning as much as they could. if they actually analyze it and fix their mistakes, that's good too.
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>>7998377
analyzing a drawing is also a skill that will take them time to learn. easy to forget



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