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>>8001933
looks mid or high beg
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>>8001935
Delusional crab.

>>8001933
Marshall is great, but man, the boomers really were the most tasteless generation to ever live. Something really fried their brains. Even the smartphone-addicted zoomies aren’t as spiritually decayed as a lot of the boomers were.
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>>8001956
You are actually retarded if you think that drawing passes as intermediate these days.
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>>8001961
Just because it’s not anime doesn’t mean it’s bad, Pedro.
In fact the whole point of the thread is ugly art that still shows technical skill
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>>8001962
i think you lack the necessary vision to realize that the greyscale and the tones are so dogshit it makes the entire picture look 2D, no sense of light, no sense of anything really, Just randomly adding details to a crappy composition, not hard not impressive.
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Nathan Fowkes. The chroma burns my eyes
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>>8001933
I think it has its appeal in a certain context. I can imagine a strange story inspired by ancient myths or folklore that would really shine thanks to this style. Interestingly, though, this image leaves me rather indifferent: >>8002018
A good example of great technique with zero appeal is the kind of conceptual art that’s popular these days. It's extremely realistic yet flat and generally depicts designs and ideas that seem generic within their respective media and genres.
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>>8001933
i really wish i could take vandruff's modern perspective course but the complete thing is a whopping $260. there's the $12 1994 version but it doesn't have any exercises or homework.
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>>8002070
Art is not for poor people. How many times I need to say this?
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>>8001933
This kind of hyper detailed semi-realistic crap that’s so popular with chinks.
Can’t believe /ic/ used to worship Ruan Jia
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>>8002075
They have gone, sir. Now /ic/ is pajeet territory. Like everywhere else on the internet.
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Feng Zhu. Very proficient but zero appeal
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Tom of Finland has a nice style but I don't like the whole hypermasculine homosex thing
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>>8002075
I fucking hate fake painting style.
>>8002121
I fucking hate concept-art style.
Both look disgusting.
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>>8002121
Spiritually AI art
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>>8002121
reminds me of Steven Olds. a legend back in his Oddworld days but that was all done traditionally
granted I've no idea how old this is since he has little digital presence, but the transition to digital is rough, just looks sterile like so much digital art. probably just photobashing that sucks seemingly without exception
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>>8002018
bait, you literally had to cherry pick a bad example
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>>8001933
What about Talent?
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>>8001964
its clearly high intermediate or advanced skill. beg is just disingenuous
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no appeal = not an anime girl in /ic/speak
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>>8007232
There are plenty of appealing paintings that don't have anime girls in them, but the over rendered chink shit in this thread ain't it
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>>8002606
Alright, that’s a more egregious example but even his better paintings suffer from it
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>>8008195
>art director ask you to add more color
>years later 4chan user says he didnt like it
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>>8008195
this guy is like the best artist of this generation retard
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>>8002121
He single handedly ruined the entire character/landscape/architecture design industry for video games, movies, tabletop games and TV shows. Literally every character design you see nowadays, monsters, landscapes, cityscapes, weaponry, spaceships, all of it, conforms to a generic safe FZDSchool aesthetic.

I'm going to compile a comparison image of the entire industry before and after this prick shat all over it, because I am autistically fucking mad about it. Yes I am having a melty. Fuck you and fuck FZD School
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>>8009592
Yeah I’d be really interested to see that. Was he really that influential?
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>>8009592
I'm looking forward to your autistic tirade anon
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>>8009836
No, not in the least. This guy has a really skewed perspective on just how big Feng's school was.
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Photorealistic portraits
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Zero depth
Zero creativity

It's like a carpenter making a perfect ikea table
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>>8010714
>>8010718
yeah, I agree
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>>8010714
I think photorealistic is really cool, in theory.
But they cant draw something that doesn't exist.
Like, draw me this nigger doing something else. Dont just make a glorified not as good copy of something.
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>>8002121
Human slop style
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>>8010766
That's not a beginner, idiot.
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The edgy cluttered messy nonsense style
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>>8010843
Forgot pic

Done to death and gets a lot of praise but can't think of any franchise like this that actually achieved anything
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>>8010845
Internet artists love this stuff but audiences and critics don't for some reason
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>>8010846
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>>8010847
No art hostory book in 200 years from now will look at these artists individually, it will be dismissed as a fad
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Hyper detailed city human slop generated cluttered nonsense

No design, no sensible city planning, traffic systems etc.

Nothing, just buildings and roads that serve no purpose other than impressing someone who doesn't ask why
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>>8010847
>drawing from imagination
>look inside
>drawing based on three dimensional objects, vanishing points, things the artist has seen before irl
woah...
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>>8010859
Some just have more interesting ways of projecting their view of the world onto a canvas
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>>8010840
dumbass
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No style, no substance
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Before aerial photography posters like these were impressive not because of the illustration but because it was the only way for a normal person to see a big city from air

These people were considered draftsmen, not artists

A sharp photo would do a better job than this wonky distorted illustration
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>>8010766
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m99rPmHF7V0&pp=ygUmTmlnZXJpYW4gY2hpbGQgcGhvdG9yZWFsaXN0aWMgcGFpbnRpbmc%3D
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>>8010840
It’s kind of silly, but the spirit of it is true
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>>8002075
>>8002121
Honestly, I prefer render monkeys worship of the past to modern worshipping of coomer grifters.
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>>8007231
It's woefully intermediate, like a solid /avg/ or something. Neither spectacularly bad nor good in any meaningful way
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>>8014361
You’re just making shit up.
Redline it if you think it’s so /int/
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>>8010845
>Done to death and gets a lot of praise but can't think of any franchise like this that actually achieved anything
Where's Wally? That's Waldo for you burgerboy-anons.
Actually, all those 'find an object' type artworks would count.
Hieronymus Bosch? He's one of the most well known painters in art history.
Hiroo Isono? His art is less 'loads going on' type of busy, and more 'lots of detail' type of busy, but people love his art.
Granted, none of those art 'edgy', besides (debatably) Bosch.
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>>8014430
>Franchises
How did I forget this, and start thinking only about artists? Well, I still gave two examples.
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>>8014410
You're blind, sorry I to inform.
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>>8007231
>>8001933
I actually really like these, but what an odd choice to leave out Alice. It's like he wanted to portray Wonderland through the lens of horror. It's kind of traditional to make the residents of Wonderland gross caricatures, but you put Alice in to balance it out. I wonder if he was just an artist for hire on this and was just following direction
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>>8014467
“Intermediate” does not mean “it’s ugly”, it doesn’t mean “I don’t like it”, etc
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>>8014665
Yeah, it doesn't mean "it's beautiful" or "I like it" either. It means it's mediocre
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>>8009592
based. pinned this tab.

the lack of appeal is for the same reason as AI. its computer generated, tons of copy paste. a lot of repetition that isn't easily describable, but is boring to look at.
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All the chinese hyper realistic slopmen
and Karl Kopinski, I like the guy but his art is ugly and styleless to me
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>>8001933
This is a page from a comic by Spumco, John K.'s art studio. It's a collaboration between mutiple pretty great artists, but in the end, it seems to be worse than what they could do individuallly.

https://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2009/10/joys-of-working-with-vincent.html
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>>8014949
>It means it's mediocre
Not at all, intermediate level artists can make great works, just like pro artists can spend their life making shit.



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