its over editionIf you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>8002837
clique won.
>>8005842you forgot about me again dudeam i really not part of the clique anymore?
clique lost albeithoughever (im in the op).
Glad I didn't post last thread lol
>Only /int/s in the OPI forgive you OP. Just don't forget to throw a bone to some of the beglets next time
>>8005842>peril and guropedo in opthe unappealclique won…
>no you's>yet I made to the OPI AM SO CONFUSED
>>8005858the clique work in mysterious ways
I think that in order to improve you have to actually use your brain
i'm going to quote something sam hyde said: if you don't have a skill by the age of 40, you should start wearing panties. i only have five years left before i have to start wearing panties. what skill do i learn? i can't imagine i will become halfway competent at art in five years.
how the FUCK does one paint in details, drawing them in is easy enough but my brain simply doesn't understand painting anything other than a plane with some bumps on it at the very most>>8005858happens to me too i have no idea what the logic behind it is
Thread challenge
>>8005225fuck it, im calling it heremy biggest weakness right is rendering, i basically have no idea what im doing, im just going by feelingis it time to do a bunch of still life paintings??>>8005318thank you peril, your elf is sugoi dekai...
i don't what's going to make better at art but using 4chan all day probably isn't it. this is where people who are already decent at art come to stagnate and have their egos stroked and prebegs come to become lolcows
any noticeable errors so far?
quick sketch. been months since I last picked up my stylus. I feel like I've wasted so much potential. I'll try to post every day this month!
>>8005875having a community (even as shitty as this) where you're incentivized to post art helps a lot with motivation and stagnation >>8005876I think his left arm is a bit small compared to the rest of his bodytry making it a bit bigger and perhaps pull down the elbow a bit>>8005877nice colors, goat eyes are kino
>>8005877Fuck that's hot.
holy fuck does sketching with a ballpoint pen feel nice. got those bic multi-color ones, they do another one with yellow, orange, pink and purple toojust feels nice with how it glides across the page in a nice even line weight, capable of almost invisible lines too >>8005867funny, I always thought he said the age was 30
>>8005858congratulations you made it into the clique
rendered
>>8005858Link it, I'll give you a crit.
>>8005877Honestly pretty sick
>when you realize the gap between int to adv is bigger than prebeg to intoh my god bro, i wanna puke
>>8005875Not sure if I would describe the average /ic/ poster as “decent”…Having a community is really important for getting better, any community. Just getting into a regular habit of posting art and getting feedback does wonders for your motivation. It does for mine anyway. It’s natural to care about something more if you feel like you’re doing it with other people and you don’t want to let them down.Obviously if you just spent all day shitposting here instead of drawing then that would be counterproductive. Although /ic/ right now isn’t fast enough for me to actually waste that much time here.
>>8005908>Not sure if I would describe the average /ic/ poster as “decent”you underestimate just how bad the average artist is, I think we have some quite skilled ones here in /begint/
i was going to post, but now i don't want to
>>8005877Can I steal this?
>>8005904The moment I hit moderate int is the moment I stop giving a fuck.I just won't continue to grind and study to get gooder, I just won't.
>>8005913If you're asking whether or not you can draw this yourself then yeah of course.
>>8005872nice
when i see somebody who calls adv art int i just cringe, like are you really going to drag everyone else down to your level? out loud? damn
>>8005949>adv art int i just cringe,It's like a matter of resolution. You can't see the abyss yet. You just see a nice line or color and think, 'looks good to me.' That is the current limit of your perception.
>>8005870didnt like this one
Being int is comfy cus it's good enough to be nice and it's also very expressive cus u kinda do what u want
Portrait initial value layout.I will try to finish it tomorrow.
>>8005908/ic/ is a little too slow to be addicting. you have a point.>>8005923>>8005926very nice. i tried some 11x17" paper and broke out my various pencils for this one. trad is harder than digital.
>>8005968lookin' good
>>8005601Just draw
>>8005971Welcome backI look forward to seeing hundreds more pages of cylinders in boxes
>>8005975For a second I thought the middle tree was an upside down body.
Draw this chad
the bigger i draw, the less scuffed it comes out. feels like a crutch because i know people draw tiny drawings that mog mine. is being unable to draw tiny details the mark of an amateur?
>>8005971
>>8005984what you typed is just a bunch of nonsense
>>8005971>kid who rides the short bus to school goes to the gym to curl 5lb dumbbells and walk on the treadmill for 3 hours, complains that he isn't turning into Dorian Yates
Almost finished
did another wizard character in acrylic this time
>>8005986This is just a quote for people that are okay with giving up
>>8005870
i have officially been sitting in this thread for 40 minutes not drawing.
Little sketch in the car. Struggling with her eye and the legs but good otherwise I think
>>8005986How am I supposed to draw something else if I can't draw?
if you guys are so great, why do you need this slow-ass board to get (You)s and feedback? shouldn't you all be seeking advice from the pros at this point? don't you get validation from social media? why post here?
>>8006007a single crabpost is worth a hundred bot likessimple as
anyway, i'm gonna go get myself banned or something so i stop wasting time here.
>>8006013but the clique of /int/s always hugbox each other and exclusively crab /begs/. what do the /int/s have to gain from being here?
>>8006007What made you think anyone here was “great” and where did anyone even claim that
>>8005984Nah drawing big is important as a /beg/, just go for it>>8005986This is complete bullshit, there are MANY things where the results change when you do it multiple times
>>8005842did this on quick...
>>8005872I know it might seem soulless, but taking a more structured approach might help>first light and shadow>then ambient occlusion, and highlights>finally halftones and bounce light(that's the order of importance, imo)right now it feels like you spent your energy on the blue dress but then left entire parts completely empty, like the socks or shoesthe good thing about those splits is that you can decide to stop at the first or second and the drawing would still look finished
>>8006016attention
I took a break from figures to try and draw a fantasy beetle that grows or collects rocks and gemeralds but idk what beetles or gems look like - reminder to use references
>>8006031Damn, I forgot to circumcise my picture
>>8005877>>8005925Thanks bro, I love your art.
>>8006038nice
>>8006024very phallic gun
Progression of my White Rabbit. In my head he has the voice of David Spade
>>8006043Please draw him as big chungus.
quick bath drawing due to migraine issue
>>8006050now we're talkin
>wake up>Pretty tired>Decide today I'm going to study horses>Ready to dedicate at least 3 hours>Coffees ready>Drink one cup>Intensely uncomfortable, can't even get a single line on the page, feel like crawling into myself and disappearingI didn't know I drank the coffee of FUCKING MISERY AND SUFFERING
>>8006024i turned your gun gay.
>>8006048
>>8006062Saved.
>>8005957this is such a dunning kruger thing to say.you dont know shit about me.
>>8005994if i cover with my finger from the left shoulder to the right hip and below, the face still looks uncanny valleyget better at faces man, the light also doesnt make sense thats not how light hits a skull
>>8006065This anon has a point. I'm certain some posters here draw the way they do on purpose. Maybe to hide their real style and online persona.
>>8006055this is how i feel every day
>>8006067it looks like you just said some schizophrenic preconception shit at the first opportunity (not really), explain how the thread caused you to post this if I am wrong.
>>8006068Drawing perspective practice and anatomical diagrams seems to help the feeling
>>8006055Used to be like that. Now I'm way healthier. I solved my anxiety disorder, and now I even do normie things such as eating better food, going to the gym, swimming, and a little bit of walking almost every day. Need a bit of meds to help with sleep, but now I keep a consistent schedule.I was skeptical, but the quality of life did improve enough for me to even go back to grinding drawing and actually be capable of sitting and drawing.Still no girlfriend, though.
>>8006058So gay that it shoots jizz?
>>8006055i feel fine up until i post my work then i feel like dying and the cycle repeats. i just have to learn to not post.
>>8006038Oh nice! I really like your art too, especially the way you do lines. Good stuff!
>>8006073Well i didn't draw the original so if you are original poster you need to know this.
>>8006082based
>>8006082this gave me a chubthe legs look too short though, or the foreshortening isn't portrayed enough
>>8005858This is why the OP needs to be stolen from the fat whale.Start switching the links for something that's not dead and useless perchance.
moving on
>>8006101lol is an among us
>>8006102Bigger mask
>>8006101nice
>>8006101Nigga really used oils to paint something that looks like it was made by a 8 year old. Pro tip mix light blue with white for the clouds NOT GREY, think of them as a bunch of cotton balls.>that grassas zoomers say "i'm a huge retarded faggot nigger lov..." no way er... "finna crashing out mang"
>>8006101mogs me
>>8006108>no way erFucking ESLs just love shitting up threads.
>>8006113yeah that makes sense only white people are entitled enough to waste oils, time and a canvas while having 0 respect to the medium. Cute gondola (not) RETARD
>>8006092Draw-Chads win again
>>8006108It's acryl gouache
>>8006114Yes? How fucking poor are you to think oils are expensive on a small canvas? Keking at this faggot.
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>>8006101kino
No one ever replies to me but at least I'm in the op post. Not sure if that's good or bad!!
is this de-evolution
>>8006137the red is in every way better. except thick red ink
>>8006137
>>8006137Pose looks more fluid so I'd say no
Still working on this. Need to work more on making the proportions and designs match up>>8006082Nice, boobs look soft
>>8006147nice
>>8006137absolutely. devolution + conformity in simpler faces and references.Stagnation even.
>>8006147Needs more titmeat on that bitch.
>>8006055drank some beer, feel a little better but my drawings are turbo shit
Skull report status update.Traced this whole thing from one of hide's examples, except for the teeth and inner jaw area. I utterly cannot for the life of me get the teeth to look right so I just wanted to focus on that and nothing else. I still haven't succeeded but I do think I'm learning things and making progress.1. Kind of a "duh" moment but the jawbone has a sort of hinge that connects to the rest of the skull (circled in blue) in two specific places, one end of the hinge hooks right to the center line on the side (where the ear would be) and the other end of the hinge is right behind the cheekbone. I think mapping out these points first and drawing the jawbone before the teeth helps me keep things straight, instead of working top to bottom and drawing the maxilla and then the teeth and then the jawbone. This is something that I forget and rediscover every once in a while, you should map out as many points that you're 100% sure of (e.g. where different things have to connect) first, and then fill in everything in the middle.2. The bottom edge of the maxilla and the upper edge of the jawbone (circled in green) are not parallel, they need to converge faster than you would expect. The edge of the maxilla either goes straight back or even curves slightly downward depending on what reference skull you're looking at, whereas the upper edge of the jawbone (i.e. the bottom row of teeth) curves noticeably upward. I had them running parallel for the longest time, which has been giving my skulls an unnatural "smile" (your brain sees that the two lines aren't converging fast enough so it decides that the edge of the maxilla is curving upwards more than it normally does). I think a lot of persistent mistakes that plague people's drawings come from just not being aware of these sorts of subtle features of the object that you're drawing.
>>80061583. Area circled in red still looks wrong, no idea why. I'm going back to just drawing pure frontal and pure side views to make sure I really understand the proportions, maybe I can identify some more problems that way.I'm utterly demoralized with how long this is taking me but hopefully by the end I'll be better for it and I'll be able to apply these lessons to drawing other things in the future.
another one of these, less good than the first
tried doing some studiesI fucking hate iteverything I draw is shit
>>8006137The left one is a mess in terms of anatomy and other things also why the long face. The red one good
>>8006163holy fwark is that ikaruga
>>8006005The lower arms are crazy asymmetrical, different sizes and shoulder placement. The musculature on the front of the horsey torso looks like it's pointing towards the viewer, rather than parallel the abs. The human portion is pretty hot.
>>8006163Looks pretty good even if it's not entirely accurate
>>8005880sovl..
>>8006062based rabbit broi don't know how to shade with a pencil so i added some lines and it came out looking kind of like a comic book character. i think it might be this girl's strong jaw and cheekbones that makes it look this way.
>>8006155Sweet! snout is a little smushed on the bottom middle one. I usually draw lines where the head and snout connect, and one dividing it in half. I might seriously develop alcoholism in order to keep drawing.
>>8006167they're nagano designs, two from FSS and one from Airs Adventure
I cant learn how to draw. I am scared of starting again and of realizing I have made nothing,
>>8006163no one likes my shit and yet i persist
cause i'm a beg
>>8006187im a tyroo
>>8006173ty anonmaybe one day I'll be able to do cool character designs like nagano. him and Moto hagio are absolutely fantastic artists I wish I could draw like>>8006186that's the human spirit
>>8006186I always send spirit energy towards all my fellow ADHD scribblers when I see them post
Back to work lining. Pretty sure I'm getting the flu tomorrow but we march on.>>8006160The pose is awkward but I kinda this one. Fun colors.
Loli I drew for my DND campaign.How'd I do?
>>8006187You draw like an angeeel...Your art make me cry...You're so very speshial...I wish I waz speshiaaal.../-CHANAN-/ /-CHANAN-/
>>8006207>DND campaign>lolihorrific
>>8006207>DND campaign>loliKino
>>8006207>DND campaign>loliMild
>>8006207Has potential. Ink it or trace it on cleaner paper and take a better photo.
>>8006219Why do you mock permabegs? That is foul.
>>8006224i'm an autismophrenic on heavily sedating medication and everyone here hates me and refuses to (You) my art out of spite and I still keep drawing.
>>8006224ADHD bros.... our response?
>>8006050saved>>8005975saved, terryfying
adhd is not real
didn't ask
>>800623880085.. he he80084.. he he he
DEEPLY relieved that I'm not autistic
>>8006248take a better photo i want to save this
>>8006248who's gonna tell him?
>>8006231Start smoking meth or get over it.
>>8006248I'm a little autistic and I like drawing, yet you'd never catch me larping or drawing D&D shit in any style, let alone in pseudo anime. YOU ARE BEYOND TURBO GIGA AUTISTIC, but in denial which makes it ten times worse
>>8006247GTFO of here
>>8006256i can still tell it's at an angle idiot
>>8006260nice
cause i have adhd
>>8006258is this better I can't not take it at an angle, but I'm trying to take it at a 90 degree angle
>>8006262I have aphantasiaaaa...What hell I'm gonna dream...I don't belong here..
Is it normal to come up with zero ideas as a beginner? No images in my head?Does it come from building a mental visual library?Seeing something as simple as Devil Daggers I wonder how the fuck did they make that from thin air
Learning how to draw on an easel. I cannot draw my lines 100% straight and my shoulder feels tired after some seconds holding the pencil; is that normal, or am I doing something wrong?
>paige posts get nuked>most of the shitposts are deletedI'm noticing
>>8006277yeah it's normal. takes a while for your muscles to get used to holding up the weight of your arm while also doing fine motor control. frequently rest your arm while you think about your next stroke or step back from your drawing. takes a couple of weeks to get used to it. take a proper break if it ever actually hurts. your endurance will quickly increase.
>>8006277RacistGODS where are you? We need you
>>8006277FUNGOD?
>>8006288>>8006289huh? what's wrong with my post?
>>8006279wutmy posts are still here, and I don't shitpost
>>8006278awesome>>8006263nigga your camera isnt straight on, how can you not see it? mirror the photo and see how slanted in perspective it is
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>>8006294I think it's the text that's making you perceive it that wayalso cute drawing
>>8006296i can literally see that one part of the drawing is blurrier than the other because that part is farther away because youre not taking the photo straight on
>>8006143That's VERY funny.
>>8006297it is literally straight on
>>8006277Based Christian Chad
>>8006301Christ is king!>>8006283I see. Then I have to practice a lot during the week.
>>8006295same
>>8006101holy sovl, best ITT
>>8006277Anon, you look uncomfortable. This position works best for me, and it's the one I see most often at ateliers.Keep going!
>>8005909What's your process like for landscapes like this?
>>8006038Nigga you have got to fix the way you attach the head onto the neck
>>8006167
i guess she's a seamonkey now?
I CANT FUCKING DRAW 3D HEADS. HELP ME PLESAE I AM BEGGING ON MY FUCKING KNEES CRYING.
>>8005842Ayeee made it into the op lolToday’s perspective practice
>>8006308I wonder if it's the distance between me and the easel. In your pic, I see the guy with the arm fully extended, but on the video I actually have the arm bend a bit.
EVEN MY SKETCHING IS FUCKING UGLY. WHY ARE OTHERS ARTISTS RKGK SO FUCKING APPEALING WHILE MY TRASH IS FUCKING SHIT FROM BEGINNING TO END!!
>>8006332Wouldn’t be so trash if you spent more time drawing and less time complaining on here
>>8006332draw boxes and try again in a week, maybe?
>>8006230fuck I made the arm way too big
>>8006137you had us fooled that you wanted to do a cartoony style for a while. now it's clear you're just making cute anime girls like 99.999 percent of of the clique but arguably more western and worse
>>8006108Why would anyone get this assmad from a drawing.Embarassing.
>>8006358severe mental illness, many such cases
>>8006345the anime moe sameface is just easier to draw when I don't wanna bother, and the ref was a jap so
>>8006300Did you get attacked by a tiger?
>>8006358mentally based
>>8005870Did a quick sketch of this one.Added hands so I can work on them and how they "meld" with soft body parts
one day I'll find the right brush. then you'll see, you'll all see.
>>8006372Some people just have trouble with atelier style pencil sharpening and can't admit it
>>8006277For a thin straight line like that consider holding the pencil vertical and pulling down when using that grip. Otherwise you want to be using more of the side of the graphite, the point of that grip is to get that variety of thick lines. Also that's a draw from your elbow size paper
Thread is full of ints Im not posting here anymore.beg is deadfucking stinkies should have their own thread
>>8006361holy design
>>8006390We need 3 threads and i'm being completely serious about this/beg/ /int/ /zoomshitters/attentionwhoring/ciclejerk/ Try to prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.
Also today i learned that Corel Draw, Paint and Word are still alive. Fuck Photojeetshop and adobe, fuck vishnu and fuck all those retards
>>8006392Whats a /beg/ and /int/ worthy drawings then? Can you tell which is which ITT? And why?
i'm int(intentional feeding)
>>8006394Just lower the power level>/pre-beg/ /lowbeg/Is the new /beg/, everything else goes to /int/, eternal /midbegs/ that just want the attention go to /circlejkerkzoomtrash/
>>8004609PAGE 8 WIP Lineart and text done!>>8005600>Thank you anon, cool goblinTHANK YOU!!!>>8005568>Figured look like they're made of glassDidn't thought about that... Like porcelain sculptures? I like that!>>8006375NICE! Really hot interpretation of it!>>8006361>>8006126YOU'RE THE BEST ARTIST IN THIS BOARD!>>8006317This is really nice! Loved it!>>8006260All of what you do is cool and pretty!>>8006230BEST ONE SO FAR!>>8006137No, I think you're doing two different things here. The newest one is just an stylized version. You're consciously doing a "cartoonish" version of that earlier realistically proportioned figure. If you do that figure again with those same proportions you will make it better for sure, in terms of design and line confidence.
>>8006392i dont want /beg/gars critiquing my shit. at least here i can pretend it's somebody who knows what they're doing
>>8006392we've tried splitting the thread, it doesn't work newfag
Reposting to avoid getting ignored. Just lower the power level>/pre-beg/ /lowbeg/Is the new /beg/, everything else goes to /int/, eternal /midbegs/ that just want the attention go to /circlejkerkzoomtrash/
this is such a pain in the ass>>8006402its time you accept you will never get your way, seethe
nah just get the circlejerkers out, if adv wanted to post what would be the problem with that anyway?
>>8006404And it's time to accept that it only happens because there's not enough anons anymore.
>>8006406I thought the advs were the circlejerkers
>>8006400The easiest way is to just split the splitters. Let them cry in their own empty thread because they are unbearable and don't draw.
>>8006409They think they are /adv/ but according to the powerlevelchart it's mid/high beg with some low /int/ drawings. Their attitude betrays their ability Ie: >>8006398MonkeyFrogappealfagAlso they all use /rus/forums or discord so no idea why they are even here to begin with. dead sites attract weird people i'spose
>>8006410hahaha thats geniussomebody make the "real/beg/ thread, no blogposting/cirlcejerking allowed"
>>8006412The frog anon was mid-int, the appeal anon is low balling his powerlevel on purpose. The pink comic fag I don't know why he's here. Frog anon is gone and appeal anon hates the pink anon, so I don't see any circlejerking actually happening here.
>>8006417>The frog anon was mid-int, the appeal anon is low balling his powerlevel on purposeWith references even shitters can parade as /int/. I don't think appeal is that good, the frog guy was good but for some reason refused to not spam his low effort garbage. Mayhaps we need 4 threads>/beg/ (prebeg)>/int/ (beg+)>ritualcirclejerk>doodlesOh wait not enough anons and the site is basically dead? womp womp
>>8006425no, we just need a general for the complainers
I'm still very new here, what constitutes an /int/ or /beg/ level?/adv/ I can tell, but the line gets blurry at beg and int
>>8006417>>8006425idk if you're talking about frog anon meaning purpanon since he drew a ton of frogs, but if you think this is an intermediate level you're fucking insane
You faggots need to shut the fuck up and just draw, not gossip all day about shit that doesn't even matter in the end of the day.I'm trans and black btw.
>>8006429It's beg then? The right foot foreshortening is wrong, the shoulder is weird but hard to tell with these dogshit designs, etc. iirc /highbeg/ is 4 fundamentals but failing at them no? Entire composition is a huge mess.
despite the name this is just a general drawing thread for everyone since rest of the board is dead
>>8006429this and the guy who posted the girls in military clothing are the only advs i have seen in this thread
>>8006434>advsAin't no way that's advance, look at it holy fuck, it's a complete mess. This is the type of dicksuckery that only the circle jerk can come up with It's legit such a sad state of affairs, high beg feeding on ego trips. Site had a couple of actual /adv/ that guy is not one of them. Pic related. >>8006433This is true. Circlejerking a dead board makes 0 sense. Make /ic/ great again, kick the women, the circlejerk and the libtards with ego. Should've been on it on day 1. Instead we got invaded, open forum my A S S it's a sekrit boy club for smart people acting retarded, none of you belong here.
>>8006434>girls in military clothingwho
>>8006438nigger its the same guy as hereand its easy to look really good when your piece is 3 shapes (stylized portrait and 2 wolf heads, all things that are easy to make look goodbecause they look good period)
>>8006441>reference>doodle> more low int than mid intGrim , you guys deserve the current state of this shithole.
>>8006442you tell anybody that bottom left on that picture is not /pro/ and they will laugh in your face, that guy is probably employed for his art skills, you can keep posting independent chink shit though
>>8006448nta oh come on dont insult ghibli
>>8006448 One is a doodle that was done using references, the other one was made by someone that is obviously studied and that grinded heavily. >i get paid to draw garbageImagine making excuses for people that you don't know. Shit's crappy and that's more than enough.The art speaks for itself.
>>8006438>>8006441I really want to see the work of someone wasting so much time and energy criticizing this random.I think his art is pretty good, so reading all this vague criticism like is "messy" or "is so easy, of course it looks good" kinda makes me think both of you are just extremely painfully jelly of his skill.I did not know we still had that many females on this board, you think the captchas being as they are would filter 90% of them by now. Do you girls pay for the 4chan premium? that is pretty cringe, not gonna lie.But in all reality, if I was an artist and not only wasting so much of limited time on this earth gossiping about some guy I don't even know the name because his art, and still being so afraid to post my all work because words in a screen would hurt my feelings I would straight up just kill myself, there is being worthless garbage and there this. So you know, think about that, how you care so much about art but your own art makes you feel so bad you need to feel jealous of others and is too scared to post yourself. Just think reaally hard about that and hopefully you will find that motivation to go on and kill yourself already. Rooting for the both of you, now if you excuse me, I'm going to draw loli pornography, because it is fun. Have a good day/night.
once again this thread was significantly better when i was the main character and has only gone downhill since
>>8006354cute>>8006436try to simplify and design the shapes some more, see how abstract you can go before it stops making sense
>>8006451Not reading all of that. Someone said adv and it's not adv, not even high int.Don't like it? change the power level chart, not my fault whoever did it based it on actual digi-art studies. >vague criticism There's no criticism, there are values, no colors, no composition, it's just a messy sketch that was done with references. How the fuck do you even critique something like that? It's not high-/int/ . /adv/ is a worthless metric since even shit like stonetoss is technically /adv/
Another 4chan /int/.
>>8006457I will short for you because of your limited reading skills. You are a female(disgusting) or a female brain dude (even more disgusting). If you don't even have the courage to post your own work while criticizing someone, any opinion you may hold is just worthless garbage by showing you don't have confidence in your skills and you are just spilling out your feelings because you feel inferior, conscious or not. ESPECIALLY if you are upset at someone else judging their work in high regard.Learn to behave like a proper human being (male). or kill yourself. I don't care which.As a final addendum, here is my work. And I really hope one day you kill yourself, really, from the bottom of my heart.
>>8006457idk if I'm misreading or if you're confused about the rabbit thing. that was me trying out his technique with the rabbit, posting his images as reference for the technique I'm just some Prokofag /beg/, currently trying the same technique right now aka actually drawing. you should try it! also you have bad taste in art but that's a different can of worms. artists admire sketches for their raw energy and to admire their linework, plebs are more prone to admiring polished generic artstation tier chinkslop >>8004480>>8005265>>8005783
>>8006461 putting artwork at their corresponding power level is perchance not a critique.
>>8006461why are you saying the made in abyss pedophile is female. nothing about his posts says female. he is a made in abyss pedophile
>>8006469Female. Stop vandalizing the thread with your menstrual blood. I can smell your period from here.
>>8006467>plebs are more prone to admiring polished generic artstation tier chinkslopI do admire artstation artists because good art requires fundamentals . The /ic/ power level chart is based around said fundamentalsYou also get good by grinding the fundamentals.A sketch done by drawing a reference is not /adv/. It's just /beg/ tier garbage parading as low-/int/.
>>8006431mogs me
>>8006361I still prefer the moeblob sameface to whatever weird side mouth you're doing here
buggy
>>8005842
>>8006475that image doesn't have good fundamentals though...
>>8006475All pros use reference even for poses and lighting though. Many of those artstation pros will spend dedicated days hunting for the exact reference or taking photos of models themselves or even sculpting in 3D. Stop larping.
>>8006207Coulda been worse tbqh
>>8006397It was tried a few times over the years to have separate /beg/ and /int/ threads and it never ever worked because threads would just devolve into arguing over what was /int/ or not and no one could agree on a dividing line. The only real natural dividing line is “needs help and feedback” vs “doesn’t need help and feedback”, so, this thread is for everyone who needs help and feedback.
>>8006490yeah, its low int at best
>>8006490nigga...
>>8005971Just draw
>>8006499why send it when defending artstation slop?
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>>8002993np hihihih>>8006441opmg puprle anon <3lovely stuff>>8006417>appeal anon hates the pink anon:o>>8006398i want to hhave intercourse with this woman Naow>>8006290kino>>8006274yeash, best thing you can do is consume the media you like, look for inspiration and gestures, and that combined will build a visual libraryt
>>8006324now she has gecko fingers>>8006290Genuinely really cool, interesting rendering style and very expressive. I love this.
>>8006503post this in /mmg/ >>8005341
>>8006503Did she get her period?
>>8006453i agree <3
Quick 15 mins sketch.Her hips may be too wide
gobrin
>>8006388this guy draws
>this thead/board/site was better back in MY daykek every time. it was always shit and (you) know it
I mean, it makes sense to have /beg/ and /int/ together for the following reason: You guys keep throwing these terms interchangeably.What is the line that divides both?
>>8006326PLEASE HELP ME REEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>8006566The type of people who get concerned by it and try to insert themselves as police base their judgment on the intensity of their seethe, so the line is relative
>8006461if anyone else had been the one to engage with your troll post you would have spat vitriol at them in the same way, you are just saying shit, kys.
>>8006475this is literally ai no way a human would be competent enougj to drag a piece to that point while being so fucking retarded with the elbow and arm lengthaka you dont know shit about what you are talking about and only give a cursory glance to the art you look at, gtfo immediately
>>8006579the intensity of circlejerking spam*
>>8006518the fields grow brittle for the harvest moon
Look at me filling the whole canvas this time.>>8006527Cute goburin>>8006102That's some nice coloring.>>8006101Glad someone's keeping that meme alive.
>>8006553Aside from being about half as fast, /ic/ has basically not changed at all in the last decade. It’s literally the exact same threads and posts over and over
tch, shouldve stuck to what i knowpointless experiments
>>8006101Beautiful
>>8006438>>8006417>>8006432>this nigger will look you right in the eyes and say with a straight face that purple anons drawings are begHoly fuck dudes.
>>8006598you dont get it, theyre not korean realism weaboo slop so its not int, thats the only thing that qualifies as int to him, and adv is the exact same sketches rendered
When I get good I’m going to withhold information so other people have to suffer like I did
>>8006606im arleady doing that lol
>>8006606There is no some hided information. You will not get good
>>8006277A TradChad? On my /ic/?
>>8006600yeah they are reference sketches that fail at the few (very very few) fundies required to do them, problem?And speaking of actual /adv/ drawers that don't rely on references, is EO58 dead? It's been quite a while since his last stream
>>8006456Any better?
>>8006610Every single art book and video ever made is dogshit so the information is either hidden, or it just doesn’t exist and you can only draw if you’ve been chosen by the gods
>>8006614looks like the mad season above album cover, cool and i like it.
>>8006614looks much better, good job
Time to start studying the basics of the human body. Feeling overwhelmed already, so much shit to learn. Man vs woman, general muscles, age proportions, hands and feet, movement, poses... Lord have mercy.
>Go on vacation with my friends for a week where I don't draw at all>Skills completely atrophied when I come backMy fault for being a normie I guess
>>8006626don't try to tackle all in one go go from big to small, general proportions to defined forms then to specific muscles, it's less tioresome that way and you can keep drawing whatever while you study with is better than just studyinh naked muscle anatomy bodies
>>8006626sterno, clavicle, deltoid, bicep, tricep, median head, brachi , flexor, pecs, abs, delts, serratus , obliques, penis and legs . That's what? 10 landmarks vs learning 650 muscles + 6 million bones
>>8005917when you actually reach that level, you definitely will care lol
>>8006647>nigga skipping leg day even in artsuch is the way of the ngmi
I hate this
>>8006663mogs me
every time i draw, i feel like i'm currently purple and i have to shop at target. have to psych myself up every time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blqoTIoq_8I
>>8006663you're on the right track anon, it's just that your value structure does not support your focal pointright now the highest value contrast is on the planes in the armor, which is most likely not what you wantthe light setup you have (an overcast day) is also not easyI'd separate more the figures from the bg, maybe add some light rays that shine through the clouds to create value contrast with the figures' heads
>>8006668Thank you, I will see what I can do
I'm having fun :)
FUCKit's time to draw
>>8006467>artists admire sketches for their raw energy and to admire their linework, plebs are more prone to admiring polished generic artstation tier chinksloptruthnuke>>8006461you're on my adv list>>8006484I like it personally
I really like the way this artist and most korean artists draw faces. Animey without being too flat and not too realistic.Could anyone teach me how to draw appealing 3d faces like him?https://x.com/i/status/2047306611132404033
>>8006673nevermind I'm not having fun anymore
>>8006566the line of my asscrack>>8006676cef kiss>>8006591we need to kill a man or two to make up for this
>>8006467idk what the fuck I'm doing. blob warmup, also got filtered by the sketch from imagination Proko project book stand came in, can also be used as an easel which is neat. tried some trad drawing and turns out I absolutely hate it; tried a ballpoint, regular pencil, mechanical pencil, didn't like any of them. didn't feel I could be as gestural, the texture of the paper was throwing me off, didn't like how I couldn't rest my hand near the edges of the page, yadda yadda, not to mention all of the countless advantages of digital I was missing did a quick black background painting doodle thing and had fun with it for a few minutes and then realized I can't actually draw so it's just random shit drawing from observation is so painfully unfun and annoying it drives me nuts but I know I need to do it for the type of stuff I want to do. this is all just a mess
>>8006699that monkey came out very funny, I love itdon't stress over bad drawings, just call them a warmup to cope and keep on trucking
I am studying heavy construction equipment so I can learn to draw mecha
I've probably made more progress this month than I have in 3 years.
trying to draw a closeup of a woman cleaning a knife am i on the right track?
>>8006255But why it's funWatch your fantasies come to life
>>8006361You wouldn't be able to see her ass on the inside of her leg like that
>>8006715what changed?
>The only anons that consistently draw and post are labeled a clique and derided This board is not beating the allegations.
>>8006725understanding, basically.and my brain actually keeping track off most of the things you need to keep in mind while making art
>Human Anatomy for Artists - Xiao WeichunAbsolutely mogs hide courses. I should not have wasted time on the hyped courses instead of going for classic books.If any anon is doing hide courses, I recommend supplementing it with this book and also Anatomy for Sculptors.
>>8005870struggled getting my footing on this one. good challenge, thank you.
>>8005849this scan doesn't do your work justice, The version you posted in the Doodle thread is better and the hatching is really good.>>8005859great studies of unusual poses, disciplined blocking of the feet.>>8005897I feel that a darker background would make this eldritch figure more striking along with avoiding the 'pillow shading' method to add a little depth.
>>8006762Mr Samsa
toned my paper with HB graphite and tried to use a bigger range of values and didn't rely on line as much. what do you think?
>>8005992I feel like there's some bizarre context here, there's normies having a day in the background and then there's the wormy people, decent usage of focal point.>>8006023good silhouette, but it looks like the blade is made of wood, or at least not the same type of metal the shaft is.>>8006125good energy in these gestures, I like the two in the middle-left. I recognize the bottom three from that Dynamism line of action guide, so good job!
>>8006762wtf
>>8006717hands maybe?
>>8006663make the coats a dead black, make the reds closer to a fully saturated red/orange, blues go darker and more saturated, yellows and browns stay the same until you do the rest rightthe armor, darker dark, sharper edge yet on the right panes, the value for the light seems fine, then all of it needs a wash of yellow, probably lowering the value of the highlight and stop touching it
>>8006180the eyes might be a tad too big and watch the ellipse on the megaphone, but the worst offender is the light source, in my opinion: some parts look like the light is coming directly from the right whereas others are lit directly from above/front, try brushing up on light source on basic shapes and applying those principles to this piece and i think it could be decent, cheekbones and all.>>8006205cool 4k stuff. One of the gentle folds in the fabric (near the pelvis) on the tabard is veering off towards the bottom corner of the tapestry when I believe it should be curving towards the second peak of the wave (near the bent knee).>>8006235I feel that cross-out and it's a good sign to see multiple attempts that envelop it, I'm not so brave anymore and have a tendency to delete the evidence. That chun is great and the batman is simple and readable. I feel that the tibia on the bottom-right figure could curve slightly outward more to really sell the unusual balance.
>>8006761Oh I had to edit out the contrast as my phone's camera is probably busted
>>8005967this has giga soul
>>8006795>the eyes might be a tad too big and watch the ellipse on the megaphone, but the worst offender is the light sourcei have a tendency to make the facial features too large in general but i have improved on the nose and mouth. i must be making eyes too big still. i'm used to relying on posterization as a bit of a crutch when it comes to seeing value and i have switched to full-color, unaltered references and traditional media and it's quite a bit more challenging. thank you for the crit.
>>8006687A-anyone? P-please...
>>8006796I suggest this one. You can see the individual strokes more clearly and sharply. Those scans or whatever cause the ink to bleed into black voids that meld together into a muddy mess, which is a disservice to yourself, please consider that when you post because this is decent work, thank you for sharing.
>>8006795Thanks, did you mean like this?>>8006594What was the experiment? This ain't bad.
>>8006050I think I ended up making it worse through revision. Oh well.
anything look off proportion-wise before I start refining?
>>8006814You should just commit to HMFA shota style. There's definitely an audience for it.
>>8006819copying thisi dont understand how it is possible that i am in this bad of a creative drought, no offense but why am i needing to steal this simple of an idea?
>>8006814because the expressions dont make sense, they dont share context
>>8006823I thought that was a subject matter, not a style. Who else uses that style?>>8006825Yeah. Oh well, deleted. Another failure.
>>8006824well I can reassure you a bit because I'm also basically copying from a ref (pic related). I use several refs and just mix and match what I like.If I truly wanted to make something original I scribble a lot thumbnail sketches until I find one I'm resonating with and can visualize
>>8006668>>8006794I tried to follow your advice :)
>>8005842This stuff is hard...
>>8006834not him but I would add much stronger values and details on their headgear with all the ornaments because that's where the focal point isI would just reduce details around the legs and below them, it's not important and doesn't add much to the story of the piece. I would also darken some corners in the sky just point the viewer even more towards their helmets
>>8006803https://e-hentai.org/g/2867483/6c6b471377/
>>8006704what kind of mechaa lot of mecha designs also pulled from motorcycles, so studying those could be helpful too
>>8006687>A beginner practicing drawing too!I hope someone kills this humblebragging chink
>>8005870not accurate but w/e
>>8006814Take your left hand and prepare to slap your knee the same way the subject is, pay attention to where your thumb is positioned; it should be angled and pointed toward an area just above your head. That hand position appears to be 'tossing an object away', which is basically backwards to 'ready to slap'.While the cheek pressing against an object is well executed, the object being a fox tail (which is quite fluffy) makes the effect misplaced as it wouldn't have that much resistance, if she had a rigid tail (like an alligator) it would work great.Don't give up and don't dwell on the 'failure', we're all trying to learn here, there's a lot of character in your work.
>>8006867>>8006814His gestures and expressions are really good. What he lacks in anatomy and proportion is made up with good story telling, something even a lot of ints fail at.
>>8006612I needed a place for asking questions and getting direction, besides my bi-weekly classes.
>>8006857>taking a Chinese translation on twitter seriouslyFor all we know his true message involved Shuang Lau's 10,000 year old ancient Chinese practice of drawing phat tits.
>>8006388Since I'm still a /beg/ I'm looking to learn how to draw controlling my full arm; thus, I'm practicing my straight lines drawing with my elbow.
>>8006870>>8006867Don’t waste your him he never listens which is why he’s never improved.
>>8006248
It begins, my adventures on studying basic anatomy.
every time i think i have done it and i have escaped the prebeg zone, my art magically turns to shit before my eyes. every time. it's going to stay that way unless i move away from 2d shapes to understanding 3d forms.
i'm going to adopt a rule where i have to let my drawings "air out" for at least 24 hours before uploading because it takes a while for me to see how shitty they are. maybe i will upload on a less frequent schedule. i am becoming self-aware.
today i made more posts on this general than drawings, 2 sketches that i am not happy at all with, because of family getting in my fucking way
Where do you guys find art for inspiration? Deviant art and Pinterest are filled with AI
I mean, look at this motherfucker's line work. Clean, no shaking, exactly where it needs to go, in both slow and fast motion.Even after a few hundred pages of warm-ups and line practices, my lines are still shaky and retarded. Trad is too brutal.
>>8004609PAGE 8 DONE!>>8006508>i want to hhave intercourse with this woman Naowhee hee hee, yeah, I just decided that she will have a prominent role later, she will be in charge of torturing the elven warriors, if I get to that point in the story without quitting again lol>>8006412>Their attitude betrays their ability How can I improve my attitude?>>8006050This is fucking great, her ass, body and pose is just perfect.>>8006814Yeah the earlier version is way better for some reason, it's the way you drew her body before, she's fucking hot.>>8006754Freaking excellent!>>8006699I love your work!>>8006614GREAT!!!!!!!>>8005968Best in thread!>>8006592Pretty sexy figgies!!!
>>8006916Professional mangaka who draws more in a day than you in a month has better line control. More at 11
>>8006920You better believe I'm getting back to you at 11.
>>8006916https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3vtvb1watch at 12:50
>>8006914a lot of it I just stumble upon on twitter, whether it's reposted or recommended or by seeing who the artist follows. it can be useful to think about the things you enjoy and then think about what its inspirations were for example I like Oddworld, and that took inspiration from Brian Froud's The Dark Crystal and work in general. after learning of Froud I dug into one of his inspirations (John Bauer). from there I found modern artists that were inspired by both Froud and Bauer, like Alvaro Tapia, Eoghan Kerrigan, Justin Gerard, Paul Bonner and Tony DiTerlizziI'd avoid deviantart like the plague. pinterest might have an anti-AI search feature, not sure since it's been shit for a while now. artstation can be hit or miss, usually only useful when you want to scope out an artist's work, wouldn't really use it for general searching unless you want mostly generic /pro/ work check out concept art for games and films (Jodorowsky's Dune has some cool concept art for example), looking at the artists of book covers (Bruce Pennington springs to mind), films in general can be good for costume design (Eiko Ishioka). also for games a lot of the time they'll have a signature artist, more common with Japanese games but someone like Jun Suemi for Wizardry, Terada for the old Zelda and Mana games, Toriyama for DQ etc idk man there's inspiration everywhere, to the point it's almost overwhelming with how much good art there is
>>8006925Like, with you penis?
>>8006920Dumb argument. Playing instruments also has the same disparity in control/precision, but any beginner will feel great improvements as they practice (which I did). But I have yet to see any progress with my pen work/control, and I have much more practice on this than the guitar/piano. It is not just the expected disparity in skill, but how steep it seems to be the stairs of this particular skill. It does feel a little genetic even.
bit late but posting my poopy july collage as people posted theirs last thread. not gonna get anywhere near as much done this month
>>8006930Holy... And she has such an aura as well.
>>8006626i would be happy if i understood even a basic mannequin of the human body and could draw it different poses. i have hit a wall where i realize i have zero ability to construct things or draw basic forms in perspective.
>>8006936Soul. Are you going for pixel art animation in the future?
>>8006916look at the pen he's using. that's the secret
>>8006940i'd like to eventually, yeah. i've animated some very small things before but i find it hard and time consuming. i really want to get some way toward decent at doing scenes first
>>8006930they arent good lines, if i drew that i would be upset
is designing little creatures from basic forms using imagination a good exercise? it sounds more fun than just drilling 500 boxes or cylinders. how about drawing pokemon? they tend to be made up of simple shapes so that kids can draw them.
>>8006948>is applying basic forms into actual drawings a good exerciseSounds like a good idea to me nigga
>>8006948its not going to magically make you good
>>8006949i'll try to draw some pokeymanz or something using construction and correct perspective. i will probably fail horribly but i bet it will be less nightmare mode than drawing people.
>>8006950it might be fun at least. maybe something will click by the time i have drawn 100 things or more.
Another shading attempt>>8006936I fucking love these, pixel art is comfy as fuck, nice job anon>>8006917Not enough elves
>>8006953Having fun is the #1 thing so if that’s what you want to do then do it. In order to improve from imagination drawings you have to identify mistakes in the drawing and fix them by comparing your drawing to an existing reference and seeing how it deviates. If you draw something wrong and just leave it wrong and move on then it contributes exactly 0 to your progress. Just keep that in mind.
>>8006699don't feel like I did a ton today, the trad attempt pissed me off I guess finishing with some small painting doodles, might incorporate my warmups into this to at least make it more fun. not sure how to render yet so it's kinda just applying the color and smearing I think I've realized that I definitely don't enjoy trying to do detailed line art, like with the frogs earlier, it's annoying to get lost in all the details, same with something like birds with their feathers or an animal with fur. not sure how painting / digital painting compares to drawing raw, like obviously they both need line art but I'd assume painters need less detailed bases, and with something like fur they can imply texture by laying down blobs of color changes rather than meticulously drawing fur. maybe I'm more of a painter than a sketcher. or maybe I'm just a fag >>8006948check out Preston Blair's Advanced Animation, similar sort of thing with basic cartoony forms >>8006936nice. I feel like everyone is aware of it but just in-case, check out the spriters resource if you haven't already, so much good material to study https://www.spriters-resource.com/
>>8006953i have drawn thousands of things and nothing ever "clicked", i just got better at making mediocre, meaningless doodles.
>>8006956that looks like some anime girl
>>8006956thx>>8006948i don't draw but pokemons have helped me with doing wee sprites. it's fun to start with a silhouette and then block in the basic shapes and then shade. i need to do more of them>>8006958>spriters resourcei actually wasn't aware of that, thank you anon. it's been hard finding stuff to study because of so much ai
>>8006957i mainly want to see if i can train myself to always draw with x-ray vision enabled and see through forms. i don't know enough or any correcting my mistakes so i will need to work on that too.i think i might have a pdf of that preston blair book already because i thought it was cool.pixel art is way hard so i respect what you do. i think low-poly 3d is easier.
>>8006970i don't do enough or any correcting my mistakes*
wow meant to reply to three people and only replied to one. i think i drank too much caffeine or something. >>8006970>>8006958>>8006964
>>8006948I think that's a great exercise, though like >>8006950 said, it helps to have a little direction. One of my favorite resources is the how-to-think-when-you-draw snippets for creatures. Even if you think the style is off-putting, the principles still apply.(Pic attached not my work, a guide from online)
>>8006936very nice take on the thread challenges, cool landscapes too
10 minute portrait during my break
>>8006860nice take, it looks like you broke down the subject into simpler curves rather than following strict contours. I think a few more breaks in the curve along the face would make it look less egg-like; alternatively that one 45degree angle shadow on the left breast (her left) could stand to be smoothed out to accentuate the ellipse. thank you for sharing.
Today’s perspective practice
bath drawingkind of looked at references, lazily
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to dip pen or to not dip pen
>>8007047makes no difference without talent.
>>8007047Cool if you just want to play around with different tools. Won’t help you learn to draw any better though
>>8007047Dip lean swag
>NOOOOOO U CANT JUST POST ART FROM 4CHINZ REAL ARTISTS BECAUSE OUR CLIQUE CHUNGUS IS GOING TO FEEL BAD ABOUT IT>YOU CANT COMPARE YOURESELF TO YELLOW PEOPLE
>>8007056
it's hella over and i should probably just get a job. i should have my shit figured out 15 years ago but, alas, i am a manchild with assburgers.
feeling GMI lately, so I left my job to have more time to study, let's go anons!
>>8007062it's 2026 doe just copy ai
couple of studies from ken hultgrens book
>>8007097Sorry, but this mogs you.
I CANT FUCKING DRAW FACES HELP ME PLEASE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PLEASE I FUCKING BEG
>>8007099>doesn't post work>wants someone to help his invisible image
Can you guys help me with come up with her faceI am not loving how she looks and I can't think of anythingNext post will be how I have the others that I'm content with
>>8007103The others so far
Quick doodles from imagination, category animals.>>8007097Good work. The one on the left feels a little weightless.>>8006943Nice job! At least draw the cast shadow>>8006806Cool, wholesome Murderface>>8006512Interesting idea
>>8007047Dip pens are fun to use, and india ink is usually better than the ink in disposable pens (eg. speedball super black is darker than any fineliner or brush pen I've used). But there's also a lot of extra care and technique involved. I haven't used my dip pen stuff in awhile, definitely want to get back into it at some point though
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nC9jajByiAThis guy is saying begs shouldn't use construction. Is there some truth to that?
I'm having a weirdly difficult time drawing her chest, is there anything I should be doing differently here? Can't figure out why it doesn't look quite right
>>8006228answer me how does one draws every single day for 6 years and still be shit at it.
>>8007127Lack of talent.
>>8007121Nice way to get eternally stuck using references. It's like people want to stay in the comfort /beg/ zone their entire life. Nigga do you have eyes?
>>8007129 i luv u jona
>>8007121>>8007131that guy can't drawthis is the cover of this book, all the drawings inside are even worse
>>8007121that /beg/ has no business teaching anyone
>try out painting a portrait with the brushes set to multiply>miserably fail to pin point the exact colors i want to reach, oversaturate areas, the endno thank you i will keep watercolor larping with normal blending mode
>>8007133kek it really is this guywonder why he changed his name
>>8006917I like your shading
I have work in 2 hours
>>8007129begone, /adv/nigger
>>8007122breasts actually don't hang from clavicles
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I CANT DRAW
>>8007141Thanks for the tip!
>>8007121>>8007133
>>8007150very cool
tried drawing perez hilton, my brain like couldn't process the shapes bc he doesn't look human even without blood on him
made two comics super fast yesterday. drawing without worrying about quality is fun
AAAAAAAAAAAAA I AM PERMABEG
I WANT TO DRAW BUT GOD MADE ME PERMABEG.
>>8007175
How the FUCK do you learn to render like this??(Art source is Zako)
>>8007121>it's disciplined drawing fagWhen the /beg/ leadeth the /beg/, both fall into the /beg/trap.Whatever good points this guy might make are buried under an absolute mountain of backwards retardation. His whole deal essentially is that he tried doing the most basic tried-and-true drawing methods, completely misunderstood them, and did them wrong. He then proceeded to bounce off of them so hard that he concluded that it was the methods that must be at fault rather than he, and set off on a grand and idiotic quest to invent a new and better wheel, a wheel made entirely of squares. He's the very definition of getting ahead of oneself. Even though he's at best high /beg/ in drawing skills and straight up misunderstands drawing on a theoretical level, he really thinks that he can create some brand new hyperautistic system with slick, marketable terms and acronyms, write a book, and teach people how to draw with it even though what he's done is just create backwards and retarded reimplementations of things we already know that were taught better in other books by people who aren't addlepated autistics too lost in the trees to see the forest.
Let's just go over this video and the concept of PCS- it's in the book by the way, I just checked. So he starts off by completely misunderstanding the purpose of construction, and gets the concept of breaking things down into shapes and using guidelines COMPLETELY wrong by conflating it with construction. First off, construction is for breaking things down into THREE dimensional volumetric forms. The subject that he's going over is TWO dimensional shape-based copying from observation. Second of all, in all the examples he gave of using "construction", the idiot straight up drew the shapes representing the subject completely wrong (because he symbol-drew them), placed the guidelines incorrectly (because he was symbol drawing), and then he didn't even follow the guidelines he put down (because he's retarded). The solution? The PEE SEE ESS system: Placement, Contour, and Size. In other words, you uhhhh draw the contour lines that you see, BUT you do it correctly instead of doing it wrong, and you draw them in the right place and, uh, *checks notes* the right size, and yeah that's it OH and you do it freehand. That's the PISSES SYSTEM, folks, BAZINGA OH MY GOD HE'S A GENIUS. Of course, when you're actually breaking things down into shapes and using guidelines, it's something more like picrelated- putting down lines to measure with to keep proportions in check, drawing the subject in simplified shapes. Not literal square-circle-triangle shapes, rather rough approximations of the main components of what you're copying that you then further refine into the correct contour. What he's advocating for sounds like to me is that he's literally too ADHD for that and is opting for a "throw yourself at a brick wall until you break it" approach of drawing the thing freehand, comparing it to the subject, redrawing, and repeat until you get it right. I mean, I get the ADHD thing, but I at least know that I'm retarded.
Now it's not as if there's no precedent for anything he's saying- balls-to-the-wall freehand drawing actually is a valid exercise for increasing your raw hand-eye coordination skill, and to keep you from getting stuck in a rut. Ideally, as you go along, you'll drop more and more of the guidelines so you can draw more freely, expressively, and efficiently. The problem is that it's not actually good for beginners to do that to start with, especially to do that only. He says that guidelines and such are for people with more experience, which is totally backwards (also still conflating construction with 2D breakdowns and guidelines). Beginners SHOULD start with exercises where they measure and lay down guidelines because what they're doing is like doing a math problem step by step on the page- they're explicitly marking out the size and proportion relationships so that they can LEARN to see them better, and once they learn to see them they can do more of it in their head and use less guidelines. His "method", if you can really call it that, is just sheer brute-forcing- again, most likely because he's got a special brain, and to him that's "easier" than using guidelines. However, he ends up writing about size/angle relationships and proportions later in the book where he essentially does just create construction guidelines anyways. It's a confusing, jumbled, backwards, overcomplicated warren of rabbitholes filled with a diarrheic deluge of jargon and almost no practical, actionable, useful advice. In the book, he starts off by talking about freehand contour drawing, then he goes into the subject of interpreting and correlating contour with 3D information and ROTATING THEM (!!!WHAT!!!), then goes to the subject of learning to PERCEIVE contours and the method of brute force reiterative copying, and then in the LAST THREE CHAPTERS he goes over the subject of measuring angles and proportions (badly). It's insane. The boy is a certifiably bughouse nuts wacky waffle moonbrain.
>>8007121basically the only art teacher on youtube I've found to be worth a shit is Steven Zapata99% of it is 'here is the SECRET to drawing', or 'start doing THIS', 'STOP doing this' etc and it's usually just a way for them to blueball you and try to shill you a course at the end like that Artwod prick
>>8007205looks very similar to the marc brunet style, he has multiple videos on his process and even his brushes available, so that'd be a good start
>>8007221I don't know what he "teaches", he mostly babbles incoherent random stuff like Duffy Lucidpixul, but Zapata at least draws while he talks.
>>8006807It was this >>8006391, it looked worse
VGH, I can't decide which face I like more. They give off different intent, both which I likeface 1 gives me the option to move the focal point to an object in the distance, while face 2 is more about the character
Hi, just wanted to share a fanloid I drew. Her name is Vee. I'm still a beginner artist, what do you think of the design?
for a /tv/ thread with a mouse in mspaint
>>8007141dont use that deformed and astroturfed midget as reference
>>80072392 looks better
I never really appreciated just how much of an effect perspective has even on relatively small objects that you can hold in your hand
>>8007141There’s something wrong with the arms and I really wish I knew what it was, but I don’t
>>8007133It’s funny because the gas mask soldier is almost ok-ish and then the anime boy is utterly horrific
thoughts?
>>8007274you need to be 18 to post here
>>8006028Yeah I dunno, it feels like my brain just shuts off after filling in the base colors. I dabbled a bit with light and shadow using add glow layer and multiply layer, but then the light got too bright and I started fumbling trying to pick a better color, same with the shadow layer. Maybe I should just stick to a basic layer for light, pick something that is a bit brighter than the base color while hue shifting (basically thinking warm/cold) same with the shadow layer, and then just go from thereIn short, I just need to practice more>>8007257yeah I'll just go with that
some crummy hands from reference
>>8007280unless there are intricate patterns, I prefer painting everything in normal layersafter the main idea is there, I can adjust using correction layers and layer masks if I find something needs more or less contrast / saturation / etcgive it a try and see if it works for you
>>8006998>nosering
>>8007122Trying to make her dress shiny like leather/latex but it isn't coming out right even when I pull from references... idk should I just make it matte instead?
>>8007298its not going to come out good no matter what you do next
Anyone else making fakemons?I've been having a blast making silly stuff
not sure does it looks more convincing but I would approach it kind of like that
>>8007294qt
>>8007304Woah, that looks great!! How did you learn how to do highlights like that?
>>8007121looking through the art share channel in this guys server might be the funniest thing ive ever done holy fuck lol. This is the YT video guys latest artwork why on earth is he trying to teach lmaooo
I asked for advice on how to improve my drawings on one of my socials, and an artist replied tome telling me to play more with perspective and made an edit to one of my artThis is my original art https://files.catbox.moe/czzth6.pngand here is the edithttps://files.catbox.moe/0z5o6i.pngDoes it really look better than the original? is it good advice?
>>8007315advice is good but edit is not very good
>>8007315would be nice if you mentioned that its child porn
>>8007322catbox is only used for this kind of illustrations around there, so should be expected
>>8007322As an actual survivor of child SA, it would be nice if you didn't call a drawing of a flat chested character "child porn"
some more of the usual
>>8006920Is it even possible to learn to have control like that? I still can't make a perfect circle after years
>>8007340post a mangaka freehanding a perfect circle
>>8007143this
>>8007325???
>>8007303i have been trying to copy actual pokemon drawings. i try to be real disciplined and draw a construction drawing and try to find all of the form intersections and shit and then erase that and draw on top. i think bulbasaur is the most accurate probably because it has the simplest design.
>>8007294EXTREMELY cool.
there are roofers on top of my house and i have to listen to them hammer shingles for hours while i draw.
>>8007430Draw them working
tried drawing a buff cartoonishly proportioned body
One study a day keeps the NGMI away.
>>8007472what counts as a study
When a new thread is made how many different drawings do you usually post in it before it dies
>>8007479how many I manage to draw in it lifetime. we only halfway to the image limit
Tfw I suck and won't get better but stopped caring and just draw
>>8007509If you’re drawing, you’re getting better.
charizard came out kinda ass because i couldn't figure out the construction and the perspective was challenging.
>>8007315the edit is on good track, but you cant just make the perspective more extreme with a single edit, you basically have to redraw the whole thing>>8007514cope>>8007463i say you failed
>>8007430bum some crack or meth off of them to draw better
if i can draw pokemon with a decent level of accuracy, should i be trying to copy loomis heads or bridgmans or something instead? should i try figure drawing?
>>8007545i have no hard hat and i'm scared someone will drop a hammer on my head. on the other hand, i might develop savant art skills from a traumatic brain injury...
>>8007294
>>8007553just draw what you want, get some feedback (external/internal aka yourself), iterate and try to fix the wrong things, repeatit's the absolute quickest way to get good at art
>>8007559okie doke. i'll keep drawing pokemon as warmups but also be sure to study people as well.
>>8007543>failedok can you tell me why and how to fix it?
>>8007553what the other Anon said. though if you want a more gradual step from the 'mons check out Preston Blair's Advanced Animation. I think Loomis FWAP is painful to look at personally but his regular figure drawing books are solid. Bridgman is tried and tested, the main thing with his books is that there's an absolute ton of drawings in there so you can get a lot of mileage out of it. Morpho is good too they're uploaded here if you want them, just use 7zip to extract the cbr files: https://mega.nz/folder/bcpGVLLL#eU6KU5t1epZS35in1qHfkA
>>8007509drawing is meant to be fun anyway.
>>8007557yeah mogs everyone
>>8007567You've overexggaretated the hands feet and head, all of the things you should actually deexaggerate when drawing muscular figures
>>8007579>
>>8006853I think more of a western type of mechs, think MechWarrior. Thanks for suggestion
>>8007582what about torso and arms?
>>8007587you are coping
I have posted three cute girls in this thread, I shall balance the scales with one thick meaty boy>>8007256I like this, very expressive
>>8007569thank you for the upload. as for bridgman, i think marshall vandruff has a free course that's like a guided tour of studying bridgman and i kind of want to see how it is.
>>8007604reminds me of a darkstalkers character
fighter jet
meat levels off the charts>>8007611yeh, the East v. West thread with Bengus in the OP influenced me
>>8007557Are you curious about the mess below, or what this was about?
>>8007632check this out https://gvaat.com/blog/analyzing-capcoms-anatomy-guide-with-english-translation-part-1/
>>8007663thanks!
I literally cannot draw a direct frontal view of a skull despite days of repeated attempts and many perfect examples to copy from. I don’t understand how it’s possible to this incompetent at something. I’m not this incompetent at other things. I can hold down a job. This is mindblowing.
>>8007682full frontals are harder than angled views because everything has to be symmetrical, you can't fudge it, and there are less depth cues to work with.also, wait til you get to the pelvis. ridiculously difficult structure to draw.
this shit is so good it's almost absurd, to me at least. the ability to make a hand look this fucking appealing and mystifying is just nuts that's all
Little by little.
>>8007682you're expecting unreasonable accuracy from yourself draw rocks and plants, weird animals and pokemonrelax
>>8007724Looks rough but GMI process
terrible
i have yet to settle on a step by step process for finishing shit, I have finished nothing in months and my intuition for freehanding perspective has degraded to prebeg levels
>>8007741you can fix that skin in 5 minutes
>>8007744Any chance of a paintover?I've been running around in circles for hours and just eventually gave up.
>>8007749not by me i have depression and confidence issues
>>8007752Just like me frfrGuess I will look for some youtube tutorials on painting skin
>>8007749here u go anon, u just draw too desaturated >>8007749
>>8007623colored
>>8007759ur works great anon idk why u waste time posting on 4chan u could probably be professional artist if u r not already
>>8007757Thanks.I think you're right that my colors are too desaturated.I think I'm scared of oversaturating the colors especially in the shadows that it goes too far the other way.
>>8007699Yeah the symmetry is obnoxious but there’s still something fucky about the proportions even ignoring the symmetry. I’ll write a post about it once I figure it out and I can explain what was tripping me up>>8007733No, that’s the attitude that made me stagnate as a permabeg for years. I need to actually make progress and acquire verifiable, demonstrable knowledge, no matter how many times I have to draw the same skull over and over.Not at my PC right now so I don’t have the drawing but it looks obviously bad, I don’t have unreasonable standards.
>>8006772Thank you, I think this is one where my own explanation would probably be less interesting than what a viewer would come up with.>>8006762Vertibrate-bros...our response?>>8007163Haha, holy shit. That's brutal, but you captured it
>>8007765alright dude. enjoy your self-imposed purgatory where you can only study fundies and nothing else until you burn out.
did a study while waiting for the car maintenance at a dealer
>>8007773and i tried to draw from imagination blood elf necromancer, but i think it's too generic and i should instead use references
>>8007775the skull jaws are deformed >.<
>>8006956Keep getting busy w/ life but hopefully finishing this off today>>8006961Which one?>>8007228Ah yeah fair, I prefer the colored one you did>>8007775Fuckin love these
>>8007787i am saying it looks like an anime girl not an eldar
I got recommended this video and I'm kinda mad because as far as I can tell it's just 50 minutes of some probably Finnish or Swedish autist /beg/ acting as if he just discovered perspective, and doing a bad job of explaining it. the art side of youtube is dire https://youtu.be/JZ-SygT3x0s?si=DBIv4jYcq9L9X13M
>>8007788Ah I see, gomenasai senpai.
>>8007795I don't get it
>>8007788nta but your comments are shallow and pedantic
>>8007791lmao, that must the closest thing to a Dunning Kruger perilfag trying the le art teacher youtube grift.
>>8007811i am just saying it doesnt look like an eldar what's the issue?
>>8007815that is probably the point retard
>>8007817what's the issue though? it's harmless and not even wrong
>>8007818shallow and pedantic
>>8007819i am not trying to be deep or prove anything i am just saying it doesn't look like an eldar and instead looks like another anime girl, that's it
>>8005870>>8005964I can imagine it's difficult to communicate that pose in pixelart. It's very readable, though. >>8006398>>8006917been away for a few days, good to see you still work o the story. I am eager to read more.>>8006429inspiring
>>8007775that skull was bothering me and a few minor adjustments. i'll work on it tomorrow or start something else
Current WIP. Can’t get the face to not look like shit because I haven’t practiced faces at all.
>>8007839rotate a few degrees to the right and make it just a little shorter i think?
Gonna call this one done and move on. >>8007817>>8007788It was the "point" to have an anime aesthetic, however anon's criticism is valid as it's possible to crapture an eldar's aesthetic and still have an anime presentation w/out losing their original look.
>>8007333I think you've answered this before but I can't remember. What artists do you look at for mech inspiration?
Advice appreciated. Both drawings are from the same reference. On left I tried to replicate the pose 1 to 1 and the other I loosely referenced and drew my own lines as necessary. Also how the fuck do you draw a boob from below
>>8007860well the left is much better, idk what you mean by advice just extrapolate what you should do on your next "loosely referenced" drawing to get it to look more realistic.For the boobs thing you can try to draw the contours of the shadow or hatch, or just draw the placeholder line at the bottom of the tit
>>8006699day 5. I've put all my daily stuff in a pureref file so I can look at all my work each day and ideally I'll be able to look at each month's productivity already I can see a pattern, each day is a warmup, maybe a doodle here and there and then however many Proko projects I can be bothered to finish that day I'm still in the early drawing stage neurosis where I'm full of doubt and confused about what I should be doing and all the rest of it. I'm technically drawing each day, but I feel I could be doing a lot more. maybe it's that the projects right now aren't really teaching me much, or that I'm not applying them to anything, or both. either way I'm not having much fun, I'm just doing it to learn whatever we cringe on >>8007839the linework and energy here is nice, if that means anything
As my studies have progressed, it seems I have just unlocked the loli anatomy. But worry not, anons, I am not a loli fag. It is just interesting to know that I could pursue such venues if I wanted to.
>>8007869Loli is just a rectangle with cylinders attached. It's easy mode if you think about it
7 hours worth of work. Rendering was very brute forced, don't really know if I'm doing it "wrong" or something. Just used some texture airbrushes and some clipping masks, but it felt very slow.
>>8007880Better than anything else posted in these shit threads.
>>8007880that closed fist goes right into.my visual library
Random ivy study for today.
One more before I turn in for the night.>>8007880Beautiful. True work of art, good job
>>8007463I think that's a great doodle, looks like you know enough muscles to make a passable silhouette; assuming that's not the absolute best you can put out, your work shows promise.>>8007156try lifting the right half of the mustache (his right), so it aligns with the plane of his face, the way it droops down lower than the closer mustache is messing with the flow. >>8007111cute and honest doodles, some are more readable than others, may I suggest KAMO kawaii artbooks? It's a deceptively valuable resource for this type of work and general illustration.
migraine dayit's so over
Holy macaroni, the human body is complex. No wonder being a doctor takes such a long time.
PLEASE I CANT DRAW. I CANT PLEASE I BEG.
>>8007005these are remarkable studies, your linework is inspiring, thank you.>>8007103Since the character is shy/anxious and you already used the 'Rosalina' trope on the green one, try the 'Elegg' trope where the bangs drop so low her eyes are covered to accentuate her personality.>>8007247very rough, but readable at arms-length (looks decent in the thumbnail!), not the worst that could happen using the mouse with a pixel brush.
WHY IS EVERYONE IMPROVING BUT ME.
>>8007919Are you trying to learn at least one new thing with every piece or are you doing pretty much the same thing over and over?
>>8007920I CANT LEARN A FUCKING THING BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY VISION. I CANT EVEN COPY ACCURATELY.HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU EVEN BEGIN LEARNING IF YOU CANT EVEN COPY? I WAS MADE FUCKING FLAWED. I DONT HAVE THE PART OF THE BRAIN THAT MAKES ART I WAS MADE FUCKING NEGATIVE TALENTE.D
>>8007298Second attempt!
>>8007920Please, do not engage the uppercase schizo. The threads have been improving in the last few instances because of the decrease in engagement with the schizos.
>>8007923I feel that I have something similar, when I write a sentence my words drift downward, and if I'm not being conscious about it they will literally deviate into the next row of lined paper in a 'does this guy have brain damage' sort of way. This also affects my drawing, naturally, which makes methods like Construction difficult; but what really helps me is flipping the canvas.I started trying to learn to draw on a tablet in 2023 and had some fun with it until I was studying a book that suggested flipping the canvas- At first I was like 'Do i really need to do that? What a hassle'. My drawing was skewed, remarkably. Not only was it skewed, I went back and looked at everything I drew for the last two years, almost all of it was horribly skewed, only the most intently copied study was somewhat aligned. I stopped drawing for a year. Now, I flip my canvas.Don't give up if you really want to draw. Fun is the most important part and frustration easily overshadows that aspect, which makes drawing miserable. If you are constantly frustrated, you are drawing for the wrong reasons or attempting a study that might be a step out of reach, find what makes you happy.
kinda like the backlit lighting on this one, and switched to a brush with actual pressure sensitivity since the others looked cheugy
>just loomis it bro loomis the thing why are you not doing loomis>don't use loomis bro why the fuck are you doing loomis just do shapes>why are you using shapes just draw what you see >why are you drawing what you see just use loomis bro
I'm too retarded to actually color and render this so I opted for fweakin eppic and aesthetic flat color with an, mmmm, TASTEFUL gradient with a *chef's kiss* POP of color to really sell it.
>>8007791he's actually pretty good, probably too high level for you right now
>>8007958based but you are missing the two or three stylish highlights and a streak highlight through the text, then you are really done
>>8007959>>8007791This actually popped up in my recs recently but I was too brainfried to actually sit through any of it. Since I'm in the drawing groove I might put this on and listen to it while I scribble. His art certainly looks pretty cool.
>the high level drawing and understanding >used references by the wayJust watch EO and koreans. Stop wasting your time with pseuds.
>>8007963whats EO
>>8005870Challenge! Don't worry y'all, the king will intervene just in time to save her pride.>>8007830THANK YOU SO MUCH ANON!!! Just in case I don't get that far into this comic, there you have a future scene in the story. The tits on your version of the challenge are the best ones, pretty hot rendition!>>8007137>I like your shadingTHANK YOU!!!!>>8006956>Not enough elveshe-he yeah I know! COOL KICKING ASS BATTLE ANGEL!!!>>8007958All of these are fucking cool. About the rendering, that's actually how you do it. It looks great as it is. You can mask the big shapes and give them some rim lighting here and there, with the same big subtle gradient. And some low opacity textures with some artsy brush.>>8007947This is pretty fucking nice! I love how you rendered the horns!>>8007880BEST IN THREAD!>>8007759Super cool design!>>8007097These are really nice and cool>>8006936This is my favorite thing ITT, didn't realized it was you doing all of that. I love those pixel landscapes too much.
>>8007880Am I missing something? It's not that great, mediocre actually
>>8007915Thanks man, I really appreciate that.
>>8007970/beg/s think anything with rendering is better than it really is and coomer stuff always gets overreactions
>>8007967https://www.youtube.com/live/SVYsa_5hIpM?&t=24078Actual /adv/ artist. It's korean for big dick big dick huge balls big dick.
https://www.youtube.com/live/EM0LCqHy5lg?&t=12342There it is, Kinda scary how he is able to make a background that mogs every single westerner in 5 minutes, never uses references either. Big Dick energy big dick huge dick
>>8007975 >generic tranime*yawn*
>>8007977small dick energy post
>>8007975he's obviously good, but that timestamp does not really sell it
>>8007974>>8007975these examples kinda suck but he's good. /beg/s won't get much of of a livestream if he doesn't explain what he's doing. plus they are a huge time sink.
>>8007983Monkey sees monkey do.>does a perfect background with perfect depth and proportions using greyscales in 5 minutes using the fucking lasso toolSeen him do realistic people and horses with it, insane chairoscuro understanding.But yeah i guess /begs/ won't really get much out of it other than the time needed to get good. Perchance this turbodogshit /beg/ tier sketches from someone that's been drawing for 40 years are better for you..er..them..er..us...Don't forget to bring references to draw the same thing in over 50 years! Small dick forever beg small dick small dick super hero artist small dickhttps://youtu.be/t-crXRMju-Y?&t=550
why is xhe so obsessed with penis?
seem like this korean weeaboo is overcompensating for something
Good thing we can learn from the bestest greatestle lol? le laomao le luhmaow le lumeow meow
>>8007598who cares
>>8007974i didnt open the livestream but this is great actually
>chairoscuro>PerchanceWhy is this low iq psued typing like an obnoxious faggot?
>>8007998No behaving like a retard is high iq actually. >>8007791This is how a pseud talks and behaves.
>>8007969Thanks so much! NICE thread challenge elf!
Today’s perspective practice. Just one more and I’m done with these damn pencils lol
>>8007097another from ken, a random photo and one from kjg
>>8008018Top right is KJG right?
>>8008020yeah
>>8007936My apologies, I’m new here.
I AM TOO RETARDED FOR ART. ITS OVER!!!!!!!
i love making shitposts
>>8008025Speak of the devil
>>8007960You convinced me to jazz it up a little bit more, I got carried away trying out lasso+airbrushing for the first time so I hope I didn't overdo it>>8007969Thanks!
>>8008026 best drawing so far big dick jax energy
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>8008043Draw something, and it will pass, it works for me
>>8008044his hysterics are result of him drawing something
>>8008044both DRAWING AND NOT DRAWING REVEALS HOW PERMABEG I AM.
>>8008055
>>8005870trying to develop a style
>>8008014Broski sees from his nose
>artstation for inspiration>all the art made by women comes off as mediocre and extremely mean for some reasonlol?
>>8008070schizophrenia makes you notice patterns where there are none
>>8008073i've played enough video games to know that this is not the case. These designs are mean and fugly from day minus 0 minus minus 0Perchance low iq doesn't allow you to have observation or pattern recognition skillz
>>8008070stop noticing
And the """""""artists""""""" but i digress, why are there women in artstation? I thought the site was made for professionals. Oh that's right, DEI hirings and men hobbies getting invaded, as usual.
>>8008071Gonna post here as well, how do you feel about these character designs?
Still a WIP but we end here for the day.
>>8008081I hate this shit so much
>>8008073all the patterns exist, but they mean nothing most of the time. being aware is a good thing but dangerous to your sanity. and in the end, nothing matters on this speck of dust drifting aimlessly in the universe...~
>>8007915>very rough, but readable at arms-length (looks decent in the thumbnail!), not the worst that could happen using the mouse with a pixel brush.and its a shitty chinese mouse, so its harder to get straight lines. i was going for rough ams dirty anyway. king of chickenscratchers. thanks for the (you) :D
>>8008082damn, i get called crazy for shouting in my house and car, women are the crazy ones they pay for something i do for free
Been relying a lot on reference lately, so tried doing a bunch of quick imagination figs to warm up. Sad to say I've regressed a lot.>>8008062mad jelly, those are some nice boobs.
>>8008062You are a shining light of inspiration
>>8008121What about me?
>>8008127Not in the clique
>>8008136Oh...
this Proko shit is killing me. I don't give a fuck about line weight and all that crap, I just want to learn the cold calculating science of creating convincing 3D forms already FUCK thankfully nearly done with the Lines section with Shapes coming up, 17% through overallpotentially retarded but am I incorrect in assuming that things like line weight are less important when painting? I'd think painting is more in the realm of value and color but less so line, outside of using it as a base to paint over, and even then I see some people rawdog it and just throw down blobs of color all I know is that the shit on the left feels different to the right and is painful for me to do, aka traditional Drawing™
>>8008092>yeah it might be true>BUT IT LITERALLY DOESNT MATTER CHUD IT MEANS NUFFIN*brankrupted company numero 38758193579*/s/s/s/s/s/s
>>8008146>I don't give a fuck about line weight and all that crapbased, NGMIbro
>>8008147what's with the s
>>8008116Here's one with reference. Can someone critique and give some pointers on improving?
>>8008148shut up bitch!!11!11 idk man I'm just venting, I'm not quitting anytime soon if you can identify the line weight in any of the images on the right or this one then be my guest because I sure as fuck can't and like I said with rawdogging it, in this video Zapata's just throwing down blobs and shapes rather than doing linework https://youtu.be/PnzHLJba7Rg?si=F7lEVPJaNjlq8Gga&t=36
>>8008069Because he’s nosy “Ba dum tss”
>>8008139this movie was so fucking corny browith all the fucking vfx baba nigga and shit
couldnt really get the face to work but whatever
>>8008146based zapata enjoyer>am I incorrect in assuming that things like line weight are less important when painting?kinda, the advantage of drawing is you can work through the same problems as painting but much fasterand as you get deeper you'll realize that drawing and painting are not that different, and you can use the approaches of one with the other, like zapata does with his pencil drawings
>>8006501Just draw
>>8008216make them share the same space (ground plane, horizon line, etc)make a simple scene with your boxcylinders
>>8008216Okay anon, it’s time to do a project.
>>8008209>>8008216You two switch practice habits
>>8008189improved version
>>8008221I already tried, but even after gathering so-called references, I couldn't draw the character the way I wanted.
>>8008229show us
pain and suffering
>>8008233
Filtered by clothing folds again
>>8008239cute>>8008240hideGOD has you coveredhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdQ-Ii-gZf8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1J-V1Q1sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FgVUzizsfohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACnpQjzCJGQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbsqtANtiLghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC5DenYAUuIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hl0s2IVH1Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56hIS96OQj4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC6jp72gjUEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3cer3Nk_r8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2a583eU7KEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u49KN5lrPKc
>>8008246das od
ww1 witch idk>>8008228kino
>>8008116>>8008156finish your imagination drawings, don't skip the hands and feet and faceas for the drawing from ref, her right hand and the orientation of the head is off, take it easy and observe more>>8008144cool mage>>8008265cute witch
>>8008146This is a distinction Harold Speed calls Line vs Mass drawing. Line has a thinking related with your sense of touch, like when you drag your finger across a sphere or follow the shape of a rubber-band wrapped around it. Lines don't exist in real life, they are a concept derived from your sense of touch. Mass is related to your sense of vision, more specifically how light lays flat onto the retina. The way light lays onto the retina to create shapes is the a defining idea of mass drawing. They are both drawing, the distinction is largely in the thinking. A thinner mark lends itself well to line drawing and a bigger mark towards mass drawing, but this is not a set in stone rule and both can be utilized in both. There's another point I want to make, but I'm not sure I have the ability to articulate it. Both ideas utilize the same tools/fundamentals of shape/proportions, value, and colour. While there has been a distinction between the two, they are more like yin yang. Complementary to one another and not opposites. Drawing is the vehicle in which they are expressed. The same as hot and cold are representative of temperature. Neither exist without the other. Painting is just drawing with a bigger mark, and drawing is solely shapes, values, and color. You're not wrong in thinking that line might be less pronounced when mass drawing, however it depends entirely on how you want the drawing to feel like when observed. Line weight is just one property of a mark that changes the feeling of the subject you're representing. Not to mention that lines can be made without physically being present. Your composition is made of both line and mass, implied lines created by the shapes you've organized. Both philosophies developed to high degrees can produce similar outcomes. There's plenty of depth to find if you're looking.
>>8008265her head is smol
>>8008272appreciate the effortpost
I find it impressive how this guy (https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/335258/artworks?p=3) has these fantastic anatomy references and knowledge, but his actual finished drawings are lackluster. Still mogs me, though.
>>8007864skipped the usual warmup and jumped right into the project, which was to do a master study of line art. these are two drawings from Heinrich Kley and a Hogarth handnot used to trad so I kept running out of space and stuff, and it was hard to know whether to focus on observational accuracy or just trying to mimic the lines, but using a ballpoint feels really nice, will keep doing these next 3 days I've gotta catsit for someone, so it'll be 3 days of nothing but me and drawing. I'll report back on Monday with hopefully a shitload of drawings in tow
saw this on /v/.
>>8008240personally i have accepted that anything involving the human form or clothing and drawn without 1 to 1 reference (pose and angle while stylizations are fair game) is a complete waste of time
>>8008265head to chest is almost there but all of the proportions are all over the place what the hell
>>8008330i have seen two and i dont care about him enough to scroll past page 6 but his girls have very pleasant shapes
i didnt edit the post my bad, i actually saw like 5, still low signal to noise ratiothe thread is quite dead damn
Today’s perspective practice. Finally done with this section
>>8008216Just draw
>>8008351endomorph ectomorph mesomorph>>8008265draw him getting raped pls
>>8008390Did ya draw it?
>spam just draw>never drawsWhat is his plan?
>>8008239Try drawing her using cylinders. Start with a mannequin
>>8008351cool
cant draw hair to save my life. also what the fuck is up with the captcha
>>8008404pyw and I can give some advice. nothing seems wrong with the captcha to me.
>>8008401nice
anyone ever tried drawing on black paper? or more specifically coloring black paper I got some Derwent black paper and their chromaflow pencils which are supposed to look vibrant on it, but it looks dull as fuck. bright yellow comes out more as a puke green. tried applying loads of layers and layering colors, doesn't help on white paper it's vibrant, as expected
>>8007830i'll take readable as a win any day>>8006985>>8007969cheers
>>8007768Ok maybe part of it is my own unreasonable standards. I can’t find a single simplified line drawing of a frontal view of a skull that I’m 100% happy with. Not even hide’s. Fully rendered drawings yes, but the simplified line drawings always have at least one minor flaw. I think even simplified construction plans should look beautiful. I’m playing around with it until I can get it to look right
lets all metaphorically join out hands together and pray that a meteor falls on top of my house and crushes me to death
>>8008309>>8008356hows this
>>8008092> and in the end, nothing matters on this speck of dust drifting aimlessly in the universe...~said like someone who'll never have children
>>8008435Arms seem a bit too short, looks good otherwise I think.
>>8008435the legs are way too long and thr head needs to be about 1.2x as tall, neck Is also too longhonestly looks like you just drew the tits
>>8005870Quick one before the thread dies.
i think it's done, brosfinally... :-D
>>8008471cool!
Experimenting outdoorsy
someone said a mean thing about my art, so i'm taking a day off
>>8008493backwards hand?
>>8008471wtf man nice
>>8008499Backside
>>8008471I would flip the structure but very nice
>>8008523fucking lol
>>8008523damn that isnt a bad idea at all
>>8008553hi having fun
When drawing titties gets frustrating, I draw birds instead.
>>8008555very cute
random stuff
do your gestures or else the gesture man will suck your dick>>8008062breast <3>>8006917:DDDDD>>8008558based, blasphemous
>>8008555BASED
>>8008190>based zapata enjoyer
wanted to add some shade> but didn't come up with anything less bland.
>>8008584what the fuck
>>8008587fine art tier who cares
>>8008587is she a sex doll?
>>8008459>the legs are way too long and thr head needs to be about 1.2x as tall, neck Is also too longthese are good things
this is a website for art students to sell their art in my county:https://studenten-kunstmarkt.de/crazy how much stuff that would go here as permabeg tier sells for 1k+it really is all just marketing i guess
>>8008603>sells for 1k+could for 1kk. but does any one one buying
>>8008603But does it actually sell?
>>8008603This isn't permabeg. As for the rest EVERY art gallery has abstract paintings.
Sorry but if your drawing space doesn't look like picrel, you're ngmi.
>>8008611I wouldn't buy that
>>8008611looks like something that'd be put on a t-shirt
>>8008342this was extremely difficult hot damn, would've been better with the ballpoint. Heinrich Kley is god-tier
>>8008614Woah guys, everyone step back. Anon here won't buy a painting from Studierenden Kunstmarkt.
>>8008620NTA but, like, shut up?
>>8008622Hmmmmm, how about, like, maybe no?
If I ever take art advice from a german just fucking kill me on the spot.
>>8008607yes.the person that sold this painting has 6 sold paintings. all ranging several hundred euros. theyre just a student too, mind you.the painting is not terrible aesthetic-wise but it clearly lacks fundamentals. would be clowned if they associated themselves with anything near "/int/"there are much worse artists on the site who sold a lot of stuff, i checked. its usually "abstraction" obscuring a total lack of drawing fundamentals.>>8008611delusionally picking one of the few okay artists on the site. most of them suck, you just dont want your 4chan worldview to crumble that only high skill artists can make money. theres no justice of skill like that. its all about connections and shilling your stuff in the right circles.
>>8008632>delusionally It's called cherry picking you stupid Kruat. Like what you're doing now.
>>8008618pen and ink only is really tough, but worth it.
>>8008629its not advice, its really a blackpill. permabeg nepobabies are making cold hard cash while you believe you need to reach some ominous /pro/ or /int/ benchmark on an incel forum to be a pro artist
I just want to draw though.
>>8008645If I cared about random retards making bank I'd be clinically depressed. I just wanna get better at drawing.
i jerk off before my drawing sessions so I dont goon away the time
>>8008351my simple take on the concept.>>8008401this is so soulful, wow.
>>8008156good ref of a hot girl. Had to try myself.
>>8008603I doubt it sells for 1k. That's what the wish. Also the aevertisement budget of this site must be in the 3 digit millions. They can#t stop spamming me with it and I never clicked on it until you linked it.Art students are trash, especially in Germay.
>>8008675i can see the bridgman inspiration in this
Finally done with the scales FUCK I hate doing scales >>8008686It’s very loud haha
>>8008686thanks for the reminder that I still haven't finished copying him even once.Stuff for the weekend.
Studying butts
my sister was going through some old stuff and gave me this art book. now i have over 875 pokemon to draw and i don't even have to turn my computer on. i kind of want more physical art books now.
Make the new thread already I need to see if I made the op
>>8008603Lilli Geyer straight up ripped off Jordi Alama (poorly).
>>8008689i'm still learning how to draw three boxes for the head, ribcage and pelvis. haven't even studied any of the gesture stuff yet.
>>8008693Now I'm definitely not adding you to it. Sorry bub.
>>8008693draw 20 images
You might have a hard time accepting, but this here is what TRUE human physic looks like.
>>8008730it's physique* ain't it
>>8008732YES, THANK YOU. My grammar tool kept insisting on correcting to "physics," but I wanted that one. I knew the word sound in my head but completely forgot the writing.
>>8008739No problem, friendo.keep drawing
>>8008351can we get more of this stuff?
>>8008750You want more... Basic shapes?
>>8008555Bird gang
>>8008762literally yes, and with the little descriptions too
>>8008587looks good thoughever
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
copies and smut from imagination>>8007904>KAMO kawaii artbooksWhat a great series. The language is incredibly rich. I don't know how influential her work or this particular style of abstraction is, but I see a lot of cliches and visual motifs that I've also seen in manga, games, and advertising. It's worth studying for the visual language alone, thanks.>>8008034cool gradient>>8007848Good work, anon, aerial fights are tough to pull off, this one is hard to read.
I CANT FUCKING DRAW. I TRY AND TRY AND TRY AND JUST POUT OUT FUCKING PERMABEG SHIT
>>8008815very cool studies! at a glance I thought it would be good book as a beginner, but it was deceptively difficult. Line control, nearly perfect ellipses, consistent volume in shapes, among other great principles.
>>8008598Even if this is not what you were asking I will lore dump a bit. I was thinking about whether these girls are real or not. And it seems from the back that Pink-head is at least heavily augmented. Since Pink-head is more meek and Yellow Cape is more actiony, it seems like Yellow Cape is more confrontational to the world, or the world is confrontational to her. So, maybe she is an outsider or something, while Pink-head looks more like a part of it. So, I decided Pink-head is probably not 'a real boy' but just girl-shaped. So I depicted her revealingly not real, and also self-reliant. So, to answer the question, she is a non-sexual doll, Barbie-like, just girl-shaped for an unknown reason. she doesn't have anything down there, if that wasn't already clear. Not sure how much human Yellow Cape is.
>>8006163i respect you drawing fss mecha
>>8008837These are you're drawings? What in Gods name are you doing in the /beg/ threads? I don't think anyone here can give advice on how to improve your drawings.
beg and int*
Hopefully I can finish the coloring tomorrow
>>8008847"First, /beg/ routinely shits on real professionals - Mark can't anatomy, Saito is a hack, and Drawabox can't draw a box. So for sure, if someone wanted to, they could point out how broken, wrong, and boring my images are. And I just draw images to kill time or for entertainment, and people can tell if it's a cool or a fail
>>8008829Cute work! I think the main point of the book is to prioritize believability over realism in order to get the idea across. for example, I noticed a lot of inaccurate ellipses in the book, such as the snare/drum. But I find the simplification really valuable.
>>8008675NICE!!!!!! Great body ref and great rendition of it! Do you have a name for the Elf Girl? She will have a male elf couple too, I need the name for both, any ideas?>>8008008>NICE thread challenge elf!THANK YOU!!!!>>8008843This is fucking awesome! SAVED!>>8008837Are you rally doing these yourself?! This is amazing! >>8008820SUPER COOL!!! I LOVE IT!>>8008690I really like this piece!>>8008464HOT!!!!!>>8008565Hi Monka!>>8008401FUCKEN SAVED! I love artist that can do these random creative doodles, so clean and elegant designs!>>8008084Amazing line economy and appealing designs!!!!
>>8008869keep mogging the permabegs, esl god
>>8008876Shit, sorry I forgot to resize the image down.
>>8008690Getting close to the image limit
>>8008650Why not draw Jasmine, she's the new makoto, she's brown, she's from SEA dogshit countries so she's schizophrenic.DRAW NEW THING RIGHT NOW NEW GOOD
>>8008888You draw her, you fag. checked.
>>8008886I gotchu senpainew thread>>8008891
Oh fuck no we're bot using that thread, someone make another one
>>8008837Love your style anon
>>8008895Just draw, what's the problem? Not clique enough for ya?
>>8008888nah I'm good
>>8008843ty desu, I love them but my attention span is severely lacking to do them justicethis is like 15 minutes worth and it's a bit rough to say the leastI like your drawing tho, the head reminds me of patlabor and the body reminds me of eva unit 2 in the rebuild when it goes pitbull mode
Hey guys just a reminder to be nice to me
>>8008908We should jump this guy
>>8008904forgot image
why do you guys oppose the idea of having a normal not clique thread? It really makes you that butthurt? Rather take down the board with you than to keep feeding your small small ego?
>>8008915Genuinely have no idea what you're rambling about gramps
>>8008915no cap
>>8008916So this thread will continue withering away then? Already borderline dead, only same posters get any attention, most art get's ignored, same spammers. Sad that you can't see for the future. You are a grown ass man already, bald probably, time to stop acting like you are 12.
unc crashing out
>>8008918>hmm I will post a basedjak on account of my withering fucking prefrontal cortexFaggot!
>>8008918Oh it's a schizo
>>8008920Still slower than ever, still dying , still full of circlejerking faggots.
>>8008922This is massive ngmi energy. I bet I can find your art immediately if I scroll up.
>>8008922great stuff
>>8008918What the fuck are you talking about? lol!
Can a sane human make a new thread
>>8008926I can't, I'm clique-biased
>>8008926I am not sane unfortunately
>>8008918Remove the clique and what are you left with? Only Your whining and AAAAAA.Where will you get the people who are supposed to not "ignore most art" in your dream thread
And why do these people who make 'most art' ignore 'most art'? Does the clique prevent them in your schizophrenia inspired view? You just need spend more on drawing and less on compulsive refreshing
So since the same balding clique retards want to keep the ppm getting lower and lower without offering new posters any critique or attention i will write a guide on far better options for the 2-3 new people that are still here so they can stop using this board.Basically it boils down to avoid using beg / 4chan for critique and only use it as a dumping ground. No drawpile EitherMagma communities, Discord communities, online communities, Posting actual art in X and in deviant art.Thoughts about it? I mean it's obvious that not that many new people are here but let's try to avoid directing newfriends into the eternal circlejerk trap.>/ic/>0.43 ppm>0 threads a day>821 ppdthat's ruff, let's keep digging the grave shall we? Let's keep the good vibes rolling, the not being able to call other artwork shit and the typical edginess of the site. let's fucking GOOOOOOOOO, be nice and insincere with each other RIGHT NOW
Also you just know that when the clique gets asked why the ppm is so low they will blame it on AI. Meanwhile other communities like Magma keep getting bigger and bigger. The spice must flow.
>>8008942Reply to me and also like me on twitter, bastard
>>8008943liked and subscribed will hit the bell
a slow thread is goodthe whole board dying wouldn't be the worst thing eitherdraw more instead
>>8008946https://magma.com/
>>8008939>>8008938We just need more mass repliers. Problem fixed.
>>8008949I won’t reply to any of you unless you make something I like or want you to improve.
>>8008869What a chad. You can mog us any time you want.
>>8008954Give /Begs a chance, you jerk
>>8008949How do you plan to fulfill this need?The same whiners whine about mass replies. Because clique or not like that, or I hate this mass replying prick, or because they are put of meds
>>8008949>>8008954we need more of this but unironically. I want to see the board completely dead by next month
>>8008956I’m a /beg/ too. Just someone who won’t give advice to people I don’t think deserve it.
>>8008963ALSO my criteria is personal appeal so don’t take it too personally you realism fags
NEW THREAD>>8008967>>8008967>>8008967
>>8008876I'm bad with names - I don't read enough fantasy to have any inspiration in that regard, either! Great picture, btw!
>>8008862She's really asking for me to put my face in her ass. Pretty good, anon!I noticed, though, that the lying one has a perspective issue with her right arm. The forearm angle and heavy foreshortening make it enter the same space as the boob, so it looks floaty.
>>8006101That is a beautiful painting. Except the clouds and the mirroring water. Also the brown meme shit ruins it.
>>8006354cute
