>Rob Liefeld has a $20M net worthNever forget that only begs get the big bucks. Whether it's Dav Pilkey, Damien Hirst, Jim Davis, Mr Doodle, Charles Schulz, Jeff Kinney, or Andy Warhol, artists who can't draw will always win normgroid hearts over tryhards. Normgroids see themselves in bad artists and like to imagine they too have the skills to be successful.
>>8006424>be bad artist>"damn i'm really not cut out for this drawing shit huh, well maybe i can advertise myself really well?"alternatively>"damn im really good at this (delusional), time to promote my stuff like im the second coming!"
his net worth is so high because he created a bunch of original successes after he left marvel
>>8006424>only /beg/s get the big bucks>Dav Pilkey, Damien Hirst, Jim Davis, Mr Doodle, Charles Schulz, Jeff Kinney, or Andy WarholEvery single one of them was a professional because it was their job and they were literally paid for their drawings. They are /pro/ in every sense of the word.
Is there some autist who has a vendetta against Pilkey and Jim Davis? There’s been like three threads about those guys in the past week.No one tell him about Ryukishi07 or Zun
>>8006464So that guy Rothko who just paints a green square and gets a bajillion dollars is definitely not a /beg/ just because people happen to be insanely retarded?
>>8006489>ZunAt least Zun is a competent programmer and good musician, him not being amazing at drawing is very forgivable
>>8006424>artists who can't draw will always win normgroid hearts over tryhards. Normgroids see themselves in bad artists and like to imagine they too have the skills to be successful.Or it's because they actually created something with their meager skills. Where's your comic? Where's your paintings? I'm sure you'll get to them eventually.
>>8006424>artists who can't draw will always win normgroid hearts over tryhards. Normgroids see themselves in bad artists and like to imagine they too have the skills to be successfulthis is some hard cope shit because you're afraid to do the thing that actually makes money>produce art>sell artLiefeld did both, for decades. Most artists can't even put out a weekly 3-panel webcomic on time without a multipage whine post, while Liefeld was shitting out a few whole books a month, while also making friends with everyone. AND he tried new shit while most people were still trying to copy Kirby and Ditko.Can't sell your fucking apples if you don't bring them to the goddamn market.
>>8006424His rendering and coloring knowledge vastly surpass of that of the average /pro/ of /ic/ or twatter, but sure, it isn't anime porn so it means it must suckWhy are americans such a biological waste who have to tarnish culture and even entertainment?
>>8006559This is why tying the concept of 'is able to make a living off of goods and services' and 'excels in a particular skill or field of study' together is a bad idea. The 'pro' you're thinking of is proficient, not professional.
>>8006424>$20M Net worthDoes he really? First off it he does then good for him. But I know he technically is one of the creators of Deadpool but with the way Marvel contracts go he probably isn't seeing a single dime from all the movies, games or merch. There's stuff like Young Blood wich he certainly completely owns. But it's not nearly as popular to warrant millions of dollars worth. If there's any kind of source to these claims please tell. I'm genuinely curious if it's possible for any comic creator that isn't Kirkman, McFarlane or Millar to be filthy rich
>>8009297It's basically all Deadpool. Liefeld forced Marvel into a special deal where Liefeld simply gets paid every time Deadpool shows up, proportional to the revenue generated. One viral meme chimichanga character, a bad deal (for Marvel), and 30 years are the only things standing between (You) and the good life, lol.
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>>8009297>I'm genuinely curious if it's possible for any comic creator that isn't Kirkman, McFarlane or Millar to be filthy richLots of comic creators are filthy rich. Those IMAGE guys especially.Not an IMAGE guy, but John Byrne testified in court that he made $10 million working at Marvel.He made $3-4 million doing the Superman reboot in the 80s.He made $5 million doing The Next Men for Dark Horse in the 90s.When Chris Claremont was writing the X-MEN, it was their number one title for over 15 years. He said he used the residuals from X-Men #1 to buy his mom her own private jet.McFarlane became a millionaire working at Marvel and had retired from comics before founding IMAGE.Frank Miller was paid millions to make a sequel to The Dark Knight Returns.
>>8009443I wonder if there are any success stories like this from say, 2010 and onwards, these guys were all born in the 50s and 60s
>>8006424>BegDude he mogs 90% of this board.
>>8009451Seeing as how Rob hit deadlines and worked professionally, you can call it 100%. Even the people who can paint or draw here can't work with any regularity.
>>8006424>Comic book sales in the 90s were recovering after a substantial slump in the 80s >Part of this was due to the fact that writing was finally willing to embrace dark and mature writing (and not the cheesy and goofy super hero camp of previous decades) >But a lot of it was due to news that older comics were being sold for high prices>Rare comics suddenly had collectible status and people started rushing out to buy them like labubus (or whatever collector mania were doing now) >Some were buying hundreds of issues each in the hope that each copy of a new x-men #1 would be worth thousands in the future.>In this setting Marvel comics young talent like Liefeld were producing work that was selling in enormous numbers, but were only earning salary pay for their efforts (like all the artists before them had) >They would create new characters that would seemingly go on to sell issues like crazy. Marvel would make the majority of the money and get the rights to their characters>This included merch and film rights and not just the money from comic sales. >The young artists got together and decided to make their own publisher >Jim Lee, Rob Liefeld, Todd McFarlane, all created Image Comics, where creators retained rights to their characters It's worth noting that while Liefeld and artists like him made a lot of money from selling comics during the 90s collectors bubble. The bubble itself was actually fueling the sale of stuff like t-shirts, action figures, video games, tv shows, movie rights etc. Some Hollywood producer saw millions of kids run out to buy Young Blood #1 (who cared less about the characters and were hoping their $2.50 investment would return them $100K at auction in 30 years) and so they'd call Liefeld up and offer him millions for film rights of this cultural phenomenon. Meanwhile it's 30+ years later and that kids book is worth about $15. Young Blood is a mostly forgotten franchise (and any attempts to adapt it have kind of failed).
>>8009719This is how Liefeld can make millions as a seemingly bad artist in the 90s. It's less about his unique contributions to comics and more about the crazy collector mania of the era.Though Liefeld technically deserves credit for creating characters like Deadpool, it was an incredibly bland and personality lacking version of the character. The Deadpool who's gone on to culturally dominate today was a result of later writers and artists doing more interesting shit with one of Liefeld's old characters, that Marvel comics just had lying around after he left the company. Once the collector bubble popped Liefeld had amassed a lot of his wealth and made it to the other side of the comics crash with his fortune.Similar to Todd McFarlane, who owned Image comics during the 90s bubble, and created characters like Spawn. He made a lot of money on speculative investment (speculative from both the kids buying up Spawn #1s and the corporate rights holders buying movie and merchandising rights) but after the bubble actually gambled a lot to get the rights to make sports action figures (a field he entered into via a publicity stunt after spending $3 million on a collectible baseball to get the attention of organizations like the MLB, NBA and NFL). These dudes understand collector mania, investment and hype pretty well from their comics days. It's less about the level of quality of the art itself and more about the marketing for them.
>>8009449All I can think about is probably Bryan Lee O' Malley with Scott Pilgrim. The guy finished one super successful graphic novel and he hasn't been doing much since. I'm sure he's loaded but maybe not filthy rich. I got no source on this tho just a hunch. But I can't really think of any other modern comic success story. I know some of the top webtoons make a lot of money but I'm not well versed in that space.
>>8012035It's weird how successful scott pilgrim is, considering nothing else from Oni Press has hit the mainstream like it.
