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My hardest wall to overcome is the chicken scratch. If I don't scratch, the lines are wobbly, shaky, and inaccurate. Especially the mechanical part of it, it is frustrating and difficult to improve.

I have put myself into pen and ink only duty, which is more punishing in this regard, to see if I can improve. I still keep falling into the old habit of chicken scratch as an involuntary action.

Does it get better? I don't want to give up and just swallow the digital Ctrl-Z pill. I want to improve a little.
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>>8008398
Draw from your shoulder and not your wrist. Warm up with line exercises every day. Keep drawing. It’ll get better as long as you put in the necessary work.
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What do you even mean by "chicken scratch"? You mean only making small lines and connecting them? There is nothing wrong with this. Many artists draw this way and still produce nice lines.
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>"people" (or subhuman low iq tourist retards" as i like to call them) replying seriously to OP instead of drawing the thing and moving on
Larping over drawing
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>>8008398
Don't scratch; hatch. I don't know what kind of fag you are drawing "lines" but my advice is give up. Just shade tones. Your father should have hit you when he saw you wobbling those bitch ass lines.
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>>8008474
Let me larp in peace, anon. It's fun to pretend as an expert. What's the harm?
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>>8008474
>dilating over advices instead of drawing
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>>8008398
just embrace the chicken scratch
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>>8008470
theyre referring to the thing where you produce forms/lines with lots of short and rough overlapping strokes instead of producing lower counts of quality, deliberate lines
example pulled from google, things can still be legible and look ok drawn like this but it doesnt lend itself to looking clean and high quality
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>>8008717
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>>8008719
left is superior lol
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>>8008719
>>8008717
You do realize there is nothing wrong with making smaller lines? There are many professionals who draw this way. If you constantly draw long lines then your lines will look shit. It's something you only do for quick sketches.
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>>8008805
i was about to say that, sketches are supposed to be messy, refinement comes later
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>>8008805
sure, but many people who wish to get better struggle to or never move past the short lines and don't develop a broader skillset of fundamentals. it's a noob trap that encompasses everything they draw is not intentional. it's lack of confidence in their hand and vision. like you said its fine for quick sketches but this is something many beginners use for anything they are making. obviously not everything can or should be long lines and same goes for short. they should eventually learn to properly use both
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>>8008439
You hover sketch a few times before deciding on actually putting your marks. This is unironically drawabox course
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>>8008817
Here is how it goes:
If there is a curve, then chances are high you should rather do smaller lines and simply connect them precisely.
If there is a longer somewhat straight line, then just do it slower and without thinking too much about it

That's the whole secret. Smaller fast lines for curves.
Long and slow lines for straights.

It's also important to pay attention to your pen pressure when drawing longer lines. You need a good amount of pressure otherwise it won't stay in line and won't be thick enough
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>>8008621
No please tell OP how to avoid chicken scratches for 9999 time
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Chicken scratch for the soul.
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>>8008717
that's a sweet Cobain portrait my dude
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>>8008823
That’s not OP anon that’s just some schizo who does this in every thread
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>>8008398
If that’s your biggest wall then you’ve got things real easy.
It does improve naturally with time, but if you want to jumpstart the process, literally just practice it. Force yourself to do long clean strokes and redo the line until it’s correct. That’s it. Problem solved.
Don’t get autistic about it though, even pro artists will pick up the pen sometimes.
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>>8008398
do blind contours, eventually it will just click, or atleast it did for me
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>>8008398
Just do pages where you draw circles and shapes with flowing lines. Just let your arm relax and move freely. The line accuracy exercises in DAB and Dynamic Sketching are good to practice too, but a lot of it is really just learning how to loosen up learning how to work with your body, and over time your accuracy will sort itself out. Look up automatic drawing. Try out Zapata's drawing meditation practice to get into the right mindset.
>>8008474
fine, I'll pay the toll
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>>8008814
Lines that are merely messy aren't chicken scratching. Chicken scratch is a very distinct phenomenon wherein you henpeck the line in very tiny tiny strokes, or make a line by scribbling in tiny back and forth motions. I should know, because I used to do that exact thing, the second one to be precise. It's a horrible habit borne from an indecisive, untrained, stiff, awkward, and slow arm, and not only is that bad for drawing it's more prone to injury as well.
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>>8008398
So draw with wobby and shaky lines. Better than chicken scratch.
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>>8009221
mogs me
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>>8009242
I'd thought that chicken scratch was the process of finding your final line by making several passes in the general region of that line, rather than a single clean and decisive mark.

Truth be told, I kind of enjoy the process.
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>>8009242
top right is definitely chicken scratch
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>>8008398
You simply must work through Drawing On The Right Side Of The Brain by Betty Edwards

It the Jedi scroll of the line, as a total concept, mechanically and psychologically
It is fully 50% of the art skill that you can learn, all else put together is the other 50%
So you will be able to copy like Kakashi
But there are no shortcuts
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>>8009242
The 2nd picture may or may not be exactly chicken scratch, but it is bad
I've heard bad lines being called 'Feathering' so perhaps you would call it that

>>8008719
I imagine this is true
It's so much more work
and it's just amateur, it lacks real technique and discipline
You must become Jedi
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niggers acting like a line is something trivial make me angry, feathering a line is the ONLY way to draw ANY of the lines that stay on until the drawing is complete.
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Why do midwits always get one-shot by terminology? You hear a word and now everything is that word. What does the word mean? Everything, obviously. Wrote wow word mean thing so smart
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>>8009618
because WORD describes the THING that EVERYBODY DOES ALL THE TIME NO MATTER WHAT
disingenuous nigger
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>>8009618
Is this the part where I call you a boomer?
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