believing that you can't ever sucessfully draw anime if you're not japanese is just too depressing to accept but when I look at eol "manga" and artists online that are clearly trying it feels like more often than not it just feels like a store-brand rip-off. I hope its just survivorship bias and i never see real looking anime/manga from a westerner because they are just able to hide that they are westerners
Visual perception and fine-motor skills are highly polygenic, so to the extent that races differ in these capacities, however subtly, the drawing styles that feel natural to them will also differ. Instead of trying to adopt a different race's style, I suggest looking at the styles that come naturally to your own race.
All right anon, who drew this?
>>8011482I wouldn't even wanna draw if i had to give up reaching for the stuff i actually like.
>>8011483Great question haven't gotten the faintest. based on context probably a westerner ? One person beating the odds is nice i guess means theres some hope
>>8011483mha author?
>>8011483who cares, it's not good
>>8011488>>8011491>>8011492Here I'll give you a hint.
>>8011495>posts more shit nobody wants to draw like
>>8011498It got a 2 seasons animeWhere is your 2 seasons anime sponsored by Murata himself, anon?
>>8011507every shitty western animation got animated, retard, fuck off
>>8011510>he's so desperate he thinks a 100% japanese production is the same as /co/ cartoonKeep digging that grave anon.
>>8011511>shitty animation is the same as shitty animationyes, fuck off
>>8011511Being made in Japan doesn't mean it doesn't look like shit, nobody thinks of shitty anime when they say they want to draw anime.
>>8011507that unironically just looks like westoid slop
>>8011512>>8011516>>8011524>anon on 4chan being a demented contrarianYeah it's 4chan all right.
>>8011534>saying a westoid draws like a westoid is contrarianYou're coping hard.
>>8011536he doesn't tho
>>8011584I get that you need to believe that as a defense mechanism, but you're embarrassing yourself.
>>8011584Is there a reason you’re only posting face shots?
>>8011601? I posted pages translated into japanese.
>>8011584>>8011483I didn't know Radiant was from a French. Honestly, it is pretty good and very Japanese-encoded art, not sure what those anons are complaining about. There is nothing genetic. If you want to draw in Japanese style, you just copy and study manga/anime, simple as that.
>>8011695This.Anon, if A FUCKING FROG can do it then so can you.
>>8011713>quote literally says it seems japanese at a glance but on actual reading it's clear it isn't>explicitly calls it an "wast meets west style", as opposed to japanese style>explicitly says there are differences in the styleoofso this is the power of low cognitive resolution
>>8011721>reading it's clear it isn'tHe's talking about the story, not the art, dumbassJapan doesn't do fantasy metaphors for the 2015 immigration crisis in Europe
>>8011721Holy retard.
>>8011726>literally talks about style>east-meets-west style>differences in styleoh non non non non
>>8011726and certainly not the way French people do.Valente is a liberal at heart and it shows. At least Hameline is still shown as an unhinged extremist tho. Despite being a stand in for immigrants.
Huh, I guess gaijin really are pathetic, aren't they?
>>8011735>>8011667In what world does this look like a manga? The other two pages I can kinda see it, but I'd never in a million years think this was a real manga.
>>8011738>i can't see it as a manga unless I literally see japanese text on the page
>>8011741Again, looks nothing like a manga. Don't pretend it's a coincidence your first two images just happened to be the only ones that had a chance of passing.
>>8011667>>8011735>>8011741had me on hopium but you lost me holmes
I think it's the lineweight as usual
>>8011748All pages look like a manga, anon, you're just seething and grasping at straws.
>>8011758Unironic LCR post.
>>8011758you can't be serious, post a manga that looks like that
low cognitive resolution poster vindicated
>>8011758what is this
>>8011779Radiantit gets published in japan
>>8011588>Whole argument is based on a straw manThat sums up most people here. There's no evidence backing up anything here, it's literally just a statement made by a nobody, whom we cannot cite. This is completely useless as a position in any discourse regarding eastern- or western media. Being unable to not recognize differences is low pattern seeking behaviour, not "low cognitive resolution", whatever the fuck that means in regards to art. It's a term shat out by a midwit, and anyone using this blob of text as a baseline are not someone worth spending time on. Low cognitive resolution is, at best, meant to simplify the ability to juggle multiple viewpoints and ideological perspectives, not fucking anime. Get a grip, and go outside and touch grass.
>>8011784>it gets published in japan...by the same two publishers that publish other foreign crap like picrel (literally published by both of the same publishers)
>>8011798that didn't get an anime though
>>8011784>euromangapfffft
>>8011803webcomics that don't even try at being manga get anime these days thats no gotcha
>>8011810>manhwa >don't try at being mangapffft
>webcomics are manhwalel literally >>8011772
>>8011813korean webcomics are manhwa, yes
>>8011812
>>8011814except they aren't, nigger secondaryopm wasn't a manga until murata either
>>8011820Even when it's shit art, as long as a Japanese person drew it, it should still qualify as a manga in most peoples eyes. If it's based on the country of origin, then that's the argument. Otherwise, you're talking out of your ass.
>>8011825you're an esl nigger, aren't you?
Daily reminder that Murata likes Radiant so much he personally pushed for Lerche to adapt it. If he gets his way it will have a 3rd season too.
>>8011828>it's a jewAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHHAHHAHAA
>>8011826That's all I need to know. I'm right then. Suck it, faggot.
>>8011830learn english, thirdie
>>8011829I know this is weird to hear, but not every average-looking white guy is a jew, anon.
>>8011828oy vey
>>8011831Don't care, I'm not a shitskin. I'm just right. Wish you were here. I'd love to know how your uncle felt when he sodomized you.
>>8011832>t. shitskin
>>8011834>nonwhite declares his desire for experiencing child abuse out of nowheremany such cases
>>8011836Many such cases*
>>8011837did that make sense in your language?
>>8011840Did that make sense in your language?*
>esl can't into colloquial usagekek
>>8011832>big nosed poop eyed swarthy manlet with jew teeth>average-looking white
>>8011846Your American education system seems to only produce the finest people, I see.
>thirdie seethes about america while desperately wanting to be seen as japaneselove to see it
>>8011856You too.
>>8011850He portrays the ultimate white scum
>[nonsensical esl zinger attempt]yawn
>>8011850>>8011865Idunno, he just looks french to me.
why is this thread filled with pajeets arguing? do you guys even draw or are you just a bunch of larpers?
>>8011869>Valente>from Toulouse, Southern France>surname strongly attested in conversos settling in Southern France after getting kicked outUpdate your jewdar
So let me get this straight, the guy that looks like a jew is in Japan creating liberal media about immigrants?
>>8011887>>8011889Here is my piece for the /ic/ art exhibition, I call it "Mental Illness in 2 Posts."
>>8011901Denounce the Talmud
>>8011483only non-us americans can do anime right, its a weird phenomenonfrench, south americans, even canadians can do it sometimes but not from the stateswhat is the reason?
>>8011768>>8011765Plenty of japs draw in that art style though, does Soara and the House of Monsters looks like it's drawn by a westerner too at a first glance?
>>8011479i find that many can't fight their western influences they grew up with. they think to cartoons and comics, as well as the online content like the poorly done westerner anime art of places like deviantart or those shitty how to draw manga books that they consumed in their formative years and enjoyed and it became a core part of their visual library. and it shows in their work.some people's style will never get beyond anime-inspired because of this influence they can't or won't objectively look at and excise from their work.
>>8011941resolution-kun....
>>8011941
>>8011923maybe its the hyper individualism. I keep hearing shit online about "find YOUR artstyle" distinguish yourself like that, make your work more unique with this etc. If you desperately try to make your work original of course you won't be able to actually fit into a category defined mainly by a collectivist culture
>>8011950I like how her forearm is wider than her right boob.
>>8011793>>8011960
>>8011793>t.riggered resolutionlet
>>8012006>>8011950I personally blame how American pop art culture not only has a weird taboo on copying art as a learning tool (which means begs get stuck in the mines a lot longer than their foreign counterparts), but tends to shame narrowing down your art inspirations in order to develop faster.Every time you see "develop your style!" videos or advice from other artists, their help always boils down to "take general inspiration from a LOT of very different artists all at once" or "take individual stylized facial features/body parts/clothing styles from various artists all at once".You can also look at how capeshit comic artists are encouraged to have more individual styles rather than abide by an in-house style where everyone stays on model (like how they used to) because there's more money to be found in selling art pieces so you'd naturally want your art to look nothing like your competition's.Meanwhile whenever you look at mangaka or Euro/Latin American comic artists, it's always "oh I just copied a few of my favorite manga/comic artists and drew from life". Americans make things so much harder for themselves.
>>8012116>I blame [boogeyman I made up in my head]Post examples of that retarded headcanon happening outside of some tranny bubble you apparently live in
>>8012116So, what are you trying to say? Is homogenized art styles preferable to distinct ones? Define European art styles, please. This reads as if the whole world functions like americans think it does, as if asia and europe each are cohesive units of a same species. This is the absolute most midwit take I've ever read, you really think you've figured out how the art styles and cultural heritage works, huh?
>>8012286I mean if you are trying to fit into a box, in this case anime, it helps to be homogenized
>>8012639You know what? I guess that's a fair enough assessment. There are plenty of Mignola knock-offs to create a whole genre category in itself, just based on the art style alone.
>>8013504kinda reminds me of how isekai became a genre because of all the copycat cash grabs. is that how all genres happen? hope not but i could see it
>>8011487Maybe it's time to give up.
>>8013608pyw
learning to draw anime/manga art is the easy part, convincing /icfags obsessed with the japanese is infinitely more difficult>jjk are is low int, but its REAL manga bro! because its japanese man!obviously something to be said for style itself and not proficiency in it, but had jjk or scores of other popular manga been american made, theyd be ridiculed lol. something like chainsaw man barely resembles classic manga, yet its a best seller. the only thing determining whether you can draw anime/ manga or not is whether or not youre willing to vpn larp a japanese twitter account
>>8013637time to keep grinding kanji i guess
why do retards think this is some genetics thing when its obviously just people being influenced by the environment they grew up in and stay in? no shit if all you see is japanese art and every tutorial you look up is in japanese your art will look much more like stereotypical japanese art than someone across the art whose source of anime is "how to draw anime" videos by people who aren't even japanese
>>8013626
>>8013669even if its that there is a chance its plain too late if you didn't grow up there
>>8011482>styles that come naturally to your own race.what if you're mixed? oh wait, aren't we all to an extent if we look at ancestry? unless we're inbred?
