Any good failure story or post-mortem? In a form of youtube video, or (blog) article, or something else. Failed in the sense of:- someone went to art school but couldn't make a career in art- someone learned to draw but couldn't find a client or commissions- someone had a booth in conventions, but didn't manage to sell any merch- someone started a drawing channel/stream, but can't get any watcher
yea, my life
>>8015112Purr cat cafe
What a masochistic thread. Keep your fetishes to yourself.
>>8015145Felt like it’s a good thing to collect such testimonies. To keep people from being too delusional.
>>8015152Oh you wanted real stories. I thought you were asking for /lit/ recommendations or something.I don’t see much use in it unless you’re intentionally trying to crab and demoralize people (which you probably are). I think it’s more noble to try and fail than to not try at all
>>8015112failing to make sheckles out of your craft isn't a failure, unless you're a capitalist
>>8015240Some people can't envision an interest having value only at a certain points in your life. Art has taught me patience, care, diligence, and the ability to calm my mind in moments of stress. If I stop tomorrow it was all worth it.
>>8015240it literally is, though, it's simple mathto hone "your craft" you must dedicate your life to itif the craft isn't providing your livelihood, you're not dedicating your life to it and it's just a hobby, not "your craft"even the masters commonly die without ever finishing the one work they envision as their life's work, let alone hobbyists>inb4 copesorry buddy, singing in the shower doesn't make you an artist
>>8015344Still crazy that you see that as failure. What a way to live.
>>8015349What's crazy is that you see that as success. What a way to live.
>>8015344>>8015366Double dubs of trvthnvke
>>8015240I use to think like this but as I got older I realized the world is such a shit place to passively exist in these days that you either choose a soul sucking job just to be able to afford your existence while having none of the time to do your hobbies or you try to turn your hobby into a business so you're at least partially enjoying it while your soul gets sucked. We're too far gone into a global hyper capitalist society to avoid this
>>8015388Where does "hyper capitalism" even come into it, when has there even been a time for the general population to enjoy life and have hobbies? Like where do you retards even come from, life is not a bed of roses and you're not a nobleman taxing peasants, get good or fuck off.
>>8015366The point is to escape the prison of trite dualities, but you do you.
>>8015390If you're trying to use art as an escape hatch from wagiedom, I don't know what to tell you, you have to have avoided every warning placed in front of you.
>>8015414>>8015390Not you, clearly, this guy >>8015388
Actually I apologize for engaging. No draw coded thread. Going to practice now.
>>8015390hyper capitalism in that jobs ask for more of your time with minimal wages while the cost of living and cost of everything really skyrockets and outpaces it. No one is saying you never had to work before in existence but simply that the current state of society asks a lot more of you while giving back a lot less. Don't be the type of guy that waits until we're at the extreme to notice we're living in a hyper capitalist society
>>8015603>current state of society asks a lot more of you while giving back a lot lesswhich pre-capitalist era are you comparing to when you say this?
Op here. You guys are weirdos. I was just looking for a youtube video of people didn’t make it, sharing their insight, self-reflection, advice. Fucking weirdos.
>>8015709does your address bar say youtube, nigger?
>>8015709Saw a video about the life of the author, for the comic book, called Peepshow. He both made it, and didn't, at the exact same time.
>>8015709You know youtube has a search function, right?
>>8015709that's what happens when you make a nodraw thread. should have just asked in /beg/ or the stupid questions thread if you can't do your own research
>>8015112Here, an animation about continuously failing to get into art school, just for you OP:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWpRdTMjEmM
I can think of one Austrian painter who failed art school...
>>8016062at least he succeeded in bringing communism to 1/3 of europe
>>8015112>>8015709So you wanted information on people failing to make it in this collapsing global society but you dont want anyone talking about the collapsing global society?
>>8016088ANOTHER THREAD killed by yours truly. I am the grim reaper of /ic/
>>8017062based guerrilla janny
>>8015112There's a whole genre of youtube videos that are exactly this but for indie games.
might as well post it here since I don't want to create a thread just for ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjJ2N1enTOY
>>8015169Uh yeah. That's why he asked for such stories.
>>8017425And let me clarify, he's not asking in order to find examples to demoralize. Sometimes just hearing that it's not all success and rainbows is a good way to encourage people. The journey to mastery is tough, not everyone makes it, but even in failure there is a chance for insight, a genuine reconciling with your own weaknesses and flaws, learning to persevere, etc.
>>8015390Before 1800 people had more free time than time they spent working. Humans are meant to make stuff and tell stories. It was only when the Western myth of progress and money came into being that we started to live this way. I can recommend The Dawn of Everything if you want to learn more about this.
also, since I don't see a wolf thread, herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdyWFLPNtxY
>>8017432yes everything is gameified to the point where there is only a few "winners" and everyone else just exists to make those people look "better" in comparison.
>>8017432did you ever try to verify the claims made in the book?
>>8017450Yes. Everything is true. Life was better before the Western capitalism emerged and enslaved us all.
>>8017468brazen lies anon, not unexpected though
>>8017480Disprove the claims then.
Studied animation with view to becoming a studio animator. I didn't really have any other skills and my home city had a pretty good reputation for art/film/tv production so it seemed somewhat attainable. Should have stuck with anonymously shit posting on new grounds, but no... I wanted to try and make it respectable.Finished university and applied for every studio in town for any job that was listed. This was while living with family & working shit minimum wage jobs. After about 18 months of this I got desperate, went crazy, quit my job, jumped on a train and started knocking on studio doors up and down the country in-person. Kind of embarrassing looking back on it. Most of the time, if I managed to speak to anybody at all, the only thing they'd ask me was: "Why didn't you apply online?"I was reading industry articles and blogs in hostels and public libraries around this time. The one that really sticks out in my mind was from a guy who ran a studio, proudly saying he didn't really pay attention to the technical skills or portfolios of the people he hired and even announced he had just awarded a junior role to a girl who'd been sheering sheep in newzealnd for the previous year because he liked her vibe. That really made me question wtf I was doing.If I had to pick just one thing that put me in the ngmi bracket it was my hatred for mainstream social media. I did the linkedin/vimeo/youtube/vanity website thing but I don't really have the personality to be an internet personality. The culture that sprung up through the 2010s on tumblr/twitter/twitch to a certain extent, felt desperately unappealing and restrictive. I didn't particularly want to network with any of the personalities on there. However, whether or not that was a correct assessment, abandoning/deleting those accounts limited my visibility to family + couple of dozen people I talked to at events. I work in an unrelated field now, wish things went different, dream about quitting to make comic books.
There is that SLEW video where he rents a space in NYC to have a solo show and sells zero paintings. Seems like he has settled into more of an art facilitator role since then