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Taking a break? Drink some water, do some stretches, share some thoughts.
Just keep them art related.
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>>8015508
Previous: >>8005541
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>>8015508
i am a talentless hack with bad taste
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>>8015584
When was the last time you drew something, can you post your most recent work? I want to see whether I recognize you or not.
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>>8015596
*crickets*
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What I didn't understand in a course months ago and called the instructor a retarded gay /hack/ I understand now. Amazing. Cheat skill unlocked.
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man i remember my middle school teacher teaching us color theory, like lady what the fuck are we even doing here lmao.
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>>8015508
just realized it may not be thwt i am getting more dumb every year, just that i lost a lot of my intelligence the past 6~ years, being fucking insane and all.
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like the vast majority of people dont even relate to the what i am saying
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>>8015596
>When was the last time you drew something
A few days ago
>can you post your most recent work?
I posted them. They're still up.
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>mfw you finally realize pressure sensitivity on digital is a meme
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>>8016152
Now do everything on one layer and truly set yourself free
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>>8016172
I mean, not even trad artists do everything on one layer. That’s why light tables are a thing
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>>8016152
tfw you fool yourself into eating shit

i have drawn with and without pressure, safe to say i dont want my tools to fight me
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>>8016231
I assumed he meant like, fiddling around with the sensitivity level to find the exact optimum settings.
Drawing with no pressure sensitivity at all is just dumb, it would feel really unnatural. Real pencil on a real paper clearly has “pressure sensitivity”
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>>8016243
I can't imagine sketching without some level of dynamics
might as well use bezier vector curves to 'draw'
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>absolutely zero people seeing my X posts
I like to think someone will eventually click on my profile and look through my gallery so I do my best with each drawing. It's still super disheartening though.
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>>8016299
Wanna share your profile?
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>>8016299
What do you draw, what characters and what franchise, or OCs?
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>>8016299
Thirding the other anons to tell us what you draw or better yet share your profile or at least a sample of your work
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>>8016299
>>8016301
If you're looking for an audience without having to pander to the flavor of the month.
>Post OC
>Someone from a niche group notices and retweets
>several views and engagement begin to pour in
>gain two new followers
Repeat ad infinitum.
https://xcancel.com/BuryEbilGril/status/2088119395600290106#m
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>>8016299
You have to share it in some capacity. If you just wanna do nothing but post art into the void and hope people see then you're better off going to dedicated art sites like newgrounds
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>>8016323
cute
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>Draw something and put a lot of effort into it
>Send it to my bf
>He either ignores it or gives me the digital equivalent of a shrug
>Send the same thing to some random online I've never met
>They fawn over it and give me a bunch of compliments
>Rinse and repeat x50
Maybe it's politeness or whatever, and I know I'm a shitty permabeg, but I feel unappreciated to a maddening degree in this fucking relationship. And then I have to feel bad and torment myself when I develop a crush on some fucking internet stranger and start feeling completely cold towards my partner.
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>>8016355
top or bottom?
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>>8016356
I'm a top.
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>>8016358
boring.
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>>8016358
cute.
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>>8016323
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>>8016322
embarassing
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>>8016379
Since you replied may I interest you in Network Spirituality?
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>>8016371
nice
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>>8016371
pretty fast thats great
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>>8016355
Maybe your partner can't appreciate drawings at all, just like there are people that don't like videogames
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>>8016355
I know what you mean
It's eh
Half the time I don't got shit to say
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>>8016457
>>8016474
He used to like my drawings and ask me to draw more for him. I just don't think he gives a single flying fuck about me anymore. Shit sucks.
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>>8016479
can you draw for me
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>>8016502
I'd be embarrassed to draw for someone from this board, I think. Everyone I've drawn for in the past could only draw kindergartener level scribbles and my stuff seemed advanced to them. Which it never really was.
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>>8016530
Not him but that character on the right looks like bury pink, are you taking commissions?
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I wish I had an artist boyfriend who draws for me. But no I forced to be forever alone in this stupid country
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>>8016533
It's not my art. I'd never post my stuff on here.
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>>8016535
What are you even doing here then.
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>>8016536
Looking for learning materials and such. Lurking. I'm teaching that person I mentioned earlier how to draw, too. We are basically learning how to draw together and doing exercises and stuff at the same time. I am a little more advanced than him, and I've already previously studied some of this stuff, so I'm spearheading the whole thing.
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>ugee pen died again
Thank god I have a spare that I bought months ago from when I lost it. I like these cheap chinese tablet but my god the pens are flimsy. I opened up the first one that ever stopped working on me and the wiring to connect the nib and the magnetic coil to the solder on the main board is so thin that it burns out easily after a year or 2 of use
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>>8016540
Okay, I'll post one drawing that I'm kind of proud of, but it was basically just a study of another artist's work with a few minor tweaks. And my line quality fucking sucks.
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>>8016540
>>8016554
I am running a group with others who are also learning to draw or are interested in it, they're from a different board but it's essentially from the same site. Wanna join?
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i will suck dick and pay money if you read my series, some call me goku hair schizo´

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_kzq0uOV2HycKipGO-iTmQFJLlLhQ2-q/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OtMpTrHbleikqOudz7WWwP9DdZ7k1l-y/view?usp=sharing
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>>8016566
It would be nice, even if just to get some kind of direction for extracurricular stuff I want to do. We've been working our way through the Proko Drawing Basics course, which I figured was a great place to start, but I'd also like to do other stuff alongside it, like artist studies and practicing drawing from imagination, and maybe get into more advanced stuff to start developing some skills early, if I can.
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>>8016576
TG is @esforest invite link is in the archive below since it's the only way to share on this cuck site. Jannies will delete in 3, 2, 1...

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528268175/#528271334
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>>8016580
Okay, I sent a request to join the group. Glad it's not on Discord at least, because I don't use it.
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>>8016580
>it was the /biz/shill the entire time
kek
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>>8016593
Nah, I checked some of the posts out in one of those groups, and some people there really draw, but it seems like no one is actively studying or drawing really (why am I not surprised lol). I'm a talkative guy, so maybe I'll help liven the place up though. We'll see.
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>>8016593
Anytime you see someone shilling telegram it’s him
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>game will sell at least a few hundred thousand copies (first game of the studio sold over a million copies) and every single one will see my art
I'm so fucking nervous, it's not even funny anymore
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>>8016541
Manage to get the circuit out but everything looks fine. I wonder if the small gold coin looking thing in it is a battery or capacitor and its dead
>>8016648
Your stuff looks great catbro don't worry about it
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Alright I found the problem a flimsy piece of solder connecting the coil to board broke somehow
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im done. drawing isnt rewarding anymore

Ive said everything I needed to say with my art, and I'm not getting any nre experiences to draw from since im a neet and my country is collapsing (canada)

And I have nothing to study anymore since im high /int/ so drawing is just a game of roulette to see if something goes viral or flops.

thanks for the memes and resources /ic/
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>>8016697
do you really not have anything else to study? how are you not a literal professional by now?
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>>8016700
how much you make has little to do with your skill, sweetie
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>>8016697
Is your soul empty? Did you not start to draw because you wanted to draw THAT ONE THING ONLY YOU COULD DRAW?
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I think deep down all I want is some to tell me that my work gets to go on the fridge. Is that noble or incredibly sad?
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>>8016697
pyw you dilly beglet
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>>8016707
i'd think being hired by a studio does though? isnt it the best approximation of 1:1:1 work to value to retribution you can get?
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>>8016828
i hope when i am making museum level watercolors with rich lightfast pigments my mom will proudly hang them on the fridge
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>>8016355
Some people simply don't appreciate art and that's fine. But when they're so tactless to the point of doing things like that it just shows they're fucking assholes. I have a coworker like that. Never showed him any of my drawings again.
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>>8016355
If you're female get thicker skin, if you're male you're beautiful and I can love you better than him.
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>>8016928
>Some people simply don't appreciate art
Yeah, I get that, but then I remember stuff like this >>8016479 and our current situation makes me super depressed.
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>>8016931
Thanks for the chuckle. I think trying to deal with one crush is probably enough for me right now.
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>waa the man who I decided gets to be my boyfriend doesnt like my art
so break up with him? what are we doing? why are foids so illogical. Imaging having love yet still finding the time to go on 4chan and rub it in peoples face
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>grrr you stupid foid! Stop reminding me that I'm a lonely loser posting on 4chan grrr grr wahhh!
The """""logical""""" male in question btw
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I WILL make my dream comic and I WILL make it
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>>8017124
based
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>>8016479
That's rough, buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVeAEwrL1Ts
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>>8017049
yes, if someone rubs a lit cigarette in your arm, its logical to be in pain and tell them to stop.
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>Finally feel like I'm actually making some decent progress
>It's suddenly apparent just how large of a mountain I still have to climb
God giveth and God taketh away
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>>8016355
>boohoohoo everyone wants to fuck me I am so alone!!!
women moment
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>>8017346
Learning how to climb the mountain is fun part. I love looking at other peoples artwork being able to guesstimate piece by piece how they got a certain look
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>reach the summit
>see other artists on their own summit far beneath your own
>why did i choose the highest mountain...?
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Metaphors are not how real life works
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>>8017368
refantazio!
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There is... no way around it... I'm gonna have to draw...
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Studying is getting hard. But when I try to draw what I want, it's garbage. I don't know how to do it. So I have to study, but it feels like I'm not learning fast enough or that I'm learning wrong. And I hate that. It was fun at first so I'm not sure why I'm going through this period of sadness and fear, I think it may be because I'm not seeing intense results. Yes I've improved but it's at a rate of like 0.05% a month. I dunno. I'm just tired
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>>8017378
iktf bro
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>>8017409
haha cute
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>>8016355
I drew my bf once and he didn’t care about it. It made me never wanna draw anything for anyone again. It confuses me when people disregard their partner’s interests or brush off handmade gifts.
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I always ask my gf to pick up the brushes again but she doesn't feel inspired or adequate enough
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An artist I commissioned in March finally delivered.
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>>8017482
May we see it?
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>>8016355
you guys are getting relationships? i've been single for like 8 years. Being good at drawing never got me anything (not that it should)
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new twitter update is actually so annoying (getting rid of the thumbnail grid for the media tab) it broke my twittor addiction. kind of sucks though because twitter was the only social media website with a good balance of western and eastern artists and it was my go to for drawn ref
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>"hmm I could draw for an hour"
>"I know what to draw too, this is gonna be good"
>"then I'll be too tired to draw tomorrow"
>"orrr I could not draw tonight and then draw that tomorrow"
>don't draw
>repeat the same logic tomorrow
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As a male artist, how do you cope with loneliness?
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>>8017544
I don't. I think about killing myself every two days
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>>8016355
>Maybe it's politeness or whatever, and I know I'm a shitty permabeg
post ended right there.
>bf
This is a male oriented site. Most people just want to be nice, specially people in the art spheres, but the drawings are probably dogshit.
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after almost a decade of on and off focus of art, I starting to love how my landscapes and interiors come out now.
unfortunately I now have to develop my rendering of characters without using lines in the final painting. It's been surprisingly difficult over the last month to do this when the character(s) make up a tiny part of the image.
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>>8017544
i'm not lonely I have a femboy who praises whatever I do and has shown me his bussy before
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>>8017544
draw until it gets better
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>I have seen another Man's butthole
>t. /wct/
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>>8017544
I don't. I hate my life. I just want it to be finally over.
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>>8017551
im a really good proctologist
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>>8017551
I have seen quite a few (cute) men's buttholes.

t. E-bussy slayer
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>>8017544
It just comes with the craft. Very often I ask myself if I would be having a better time if I was hanging out with other people , but then I remember I become sick and tired of social situations very quickly and would rather enjoy the freedom of the time spent alone. My family are the only people I look forward to seeing every day

Loneliness, like everything in life, doesn't last forever. There'll be a day where you won't be lonely anymore but at the same time you won't have the freedom of solitude. Cherish what you have today, today, because tomorrow will be different.
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>>8017589
>I ask myself if I would be having a better time if I was hanging out with other people
>but then I remember I become sick and tired of social situations very quickly
that's all the really needs to be said for me. in my late 20s and have been through that reminder enough times. I really can't be bothered to chase deeper relationships at the moment, platonic or otherwise.
my mid 30s may be different.
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So what have you drawn over the weekend? I started on another smug animay gril (male).
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>>8017589
>There'll be a day where you won't be lonely anymore
>tomorrow will be different.
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>>8017595
a gorillion bodies, gestures, lines of actions, faces. same as usual. Been slowly incorporating anime faces into the gesture part but i still can't draw them. No idea what makes anime so hard. not even changing styles, i usually stick to the same characters/artists for a week or so
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>>8017595
My pen broke so nothing
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>>8017595
my pen broke but i drew a bunch of bullshit
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>>8017600
Start experimenting with animu faces, treat them like hands and do not skip them. What makes the faces difficult is how deceptively simple they are and since you're implying form rather than actually drawing it anytime you try to give these faces some form they almost always come out looking uncanny. They're in between being flat yet follow perspective to some degree, I recommended investing in one of these stylized dolls in my group on TG since you're be able to freely rotate these dolls and observe them at any angle. Best of all, the figure from these dolls have their forms simplified.

>https://volksusa.store/collections/dd-base-bodies/products/dd-base-body-2-0
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>>8017595
Did a few exercises, drew animay from imagination, drew some cute character and other bs. Basicslly spent the whole weekend drawing and it felt nice and rewarding.
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>>8017619
Csp has some "3d" anime models you can rotate and trace over too fyi. No need to splurge on totally not a sex doll.
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>>8017632
You'll have something tangible which you can observe in front of you, and these are glorified mannequins with an industry of accessories and outfits you can dress these up with.
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>>8017641
I actually have one, and a highly detailed plastic hand too, but I don't really use them much, as they're too cumbersome. You can achieve similar results with just a 3D model on your screen tbf.
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>>8017632
You guys ever tried to use wonder festival or otaku figures? The number of photographers has diminished a lot in the last 10-15 years but you can still find some gems.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/134119518@N02/55434860283
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>>8017632
>No need to splurge on totally not a sex doll.
They're not, and if you go small, you can get some pretty decent prices...at least on the doll itself. In honesty, it's an expensive hobby that I can't recommend you avoid enough unless it's something you're into. Something like the Body-chan/kun mannequin is probably going to serve you better if you just want something for art.
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>>8017662
Oh are you the fag who did the doll that I based the drawing on? You got any more of her or any other cute ones? It helps me get off(in the artistic drawing way of course)
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>>8016355
Wanna bet he wouldn't understand why if you were to dump him?
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>>8017143
Women simply won't get it; they can have a relationship easily and no one is going to shame them for acting needy
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I got a little praise from artists I admire and got slightly cocky as a result. I will never make this mistake again and will accept my rightful status as a permanent beginner.
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>>8017744
I'm too self conscious to even show my work to someone who's slightly better than me. I know it's probably counter-productive and I should seek more experienced artists' feedback, but I just can't bring myself to do it.
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>>8015508
Someone here once said that artists don't really discuss art, so much as they discuss THEIR art. I think that's true. Inevitably most public spaces geared toward discussing art are filled with consumers rather than hobbyists/professionals, and their discussion centers around stories/themes/subject matter. To them form is secondary to content, and "how" a thing is portrayed is usually never the first topic of discussion.

From my limited experience, even most private spaces filled with artists and craft-minded people are, as mentioned before, less eager to collectively discuss art that's not theirs in the way, say, creators within a music subculture or scene regularly gather to listen to a bunch of music together. I guess there's not much you can really do about it desu
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>>8017751
Everyone has a pair of eyes and is usually perfectly capable of telling visually revolting art from visually appealing/good art. That's literally most people on the planet. "Spaces where people appreciate art" are sites like Twitter, Pixiv, etc. There are millions of people on those sites who like and appreciate good art for its form, content or often both.
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>>8017756
I didn't just say appreciate. I said discuss it, in the same way people (like musicians and serious music fans) gather to talk about melodies and timbre and rhythm when they get together and listen to music (if they are that sort of crowd). The casual listener will simply discuss lyrics, which is fine. That is the most accessible part of the artform, and one of the easiest points for emotional connection.
But musicians talk about other peoples' work quite a bit with the specificity and vocabulary I mentioned above, only occasionally referring to their own work. It seems the inverse for artists.
>Everyone has a pair of [working] eyes.
That is not true.
>visually revolting art from visually appealing/good art
Nebulous and mostly subjective criterion
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>>8017756
Most people have shit taste and judge art solely based on subjective preferences.
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>>8016355

i hate it when i show my relatives a drawing and they'll literally glance at it for 1-2 seconds and say "cool". they won't do a deep scan of all of the details.

i think this is something that artists are trained to do that the average person cannot do. explains why an artist will notice 6 fingers on an AI slop post immediately but most people will just say "shrimp jesus is awesome!" because they only see surface-level composition.

curse of knowledge.
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>>8017751
/ic/ does nothing but discuss other people’s art. (Mostly because a lot of people here barely draw, but, still)
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>>8017786
Most people hate artists because it makes them feel stupid and inferior.
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>>8017795
That's not true anymore since anyone can do what artists do with StableDiffusion.
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>>8017799
Using AI is not creating art.
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>>8017802
You're right, but it produces the same results faster and thus makes your efforts less valuable
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>>8017804
Doesn't change that people hate artists. People hate anyone who appears smarter than them.
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>>8017799
I don’t think AI has really penetrated popular consciousness in that way yet. Maybe it will one day but I don’t think it has yet. Most people still just think of AI as “that funny chatbot”.
Also if you want an analogy, people still think Magnus Carlsen is really impressive even though everyone can run an unbeatable chess engine on their phone
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>>8017799

i've had relatives ask if i use AI, then when i tell them "no", they suggest that i do. you have no idea how little people care about quality. society has gotten too used to corn syrup and chinkshit to care about whether or not a real person drew something.
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>>8017804
>the same results
It does not. It creates an illusion of art, but falls apart under scrutiny. And I'm saying this as someone who has dabbled quite a bit in generative AI over the past 3 years. All you have to do is zoom in a little and you the magic is gone. AI slop will most likely never be as good or detailed as organic made art can be.
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>>8017826
Jesus christ that is the worst
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>>8017826
Retards who never drew anything in their life trying to give you advice is my favorite thing. I love it!
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The retard is the person who still draws. I'm not even an AIfag. If you draw, you have something wrong with your brain. Humans were not meant to stare at black voids and hallucinate lines. They were meant to go out and love and fight and eat and die. I would never wish the curse of drawing on my worst enemy.
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>8017900
Man bait these days is really weak and lazy.
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>>8017900
Literally some of the oldest human artifacts in existence are cave paintings. You can tell from the detail of the paintings and their locations in deep inaccessible parts of the cave that they had a high degree of cultural significance and people spent a lot of time and effort on them. So, art’s been in our DNA since the beginning
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>>8017905
if they were inaccessible then how did they paint them? someone's lying
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>>8017697
Nah, I remember that thread, and that's not my doll you drew. You can always visit the the /jp/ thread if you want to see more dolls.
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>>8017907
“Difficult to access”, don’t be autistic it’s obnoxious
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I can only draw if I have a deadline. As a neet I am drawing way less than when I had a job.
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>>8017911

unrelated question, but does the word "doll" mean something different in japanese? i remember watching the BlazBlue: Alter Memory english dubs, and they kept referring to the weaponized android girls as "dolls" which felt a bit odd, but the series is known for being weird with using words like "grimoire" to refer to unrelated shit (they're magitech objects of various designs)
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>>8017911
That's a cute doll! Is it supposed to be a mouse girl? My 2 dolls are cat girls so they probably would love to get to know your doll :3
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>>8018049
SEA in charge of not being schizophrenic for 1 second
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>>8018027
That sounds like a blazblue specific thing
>>8018049
Catgirl. Are those yours?
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>draw
>feel good and satisfied
>dont draw
>feel exhausted and depressed
>hmm should I draw
>body says no
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>>8017911
Much appreciated, anon
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>>8018117
>Are those yours?
Yes. They are also catgirls!
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>>8018119
Iktf except I never really feel good. Just slightly less worse when I draw
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>>8017795
>>8017809
The general hate stems from the disenchantment people experience once they realize the artist they admired or idealized to be this prince charming is actually the exact opposite.
>Artist illustrates an extremely appealing piece of work
>People like it and correlate the work with the artist's persona
>The artist is actually a dick who hates other people and treats you like shit
>error 32
When I first came here back around 2012 to see other artists for the first time I was starstruck and believed this board offered a great learning experience working side by side with something akin to celebrities or people who were famous for their amazing work kek. Best example I can think of is Miyazaki, his works are uplifting yet his personality is your typical /ic/ crab
>I don't ever feel happy
>Everything sucks
>Filmmaking only brings suffering
>t. miyazaki
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>>8018155
>The general hate stems from the disenchantment
No. People just think that drawing and painting is not work and at the same time people hate it to be confronted with people smarter than them because it makes them inferior. Your mere presence is an insult to their whole being.
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>>8018155
damn, i feel just like that but i never even succeed
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>>8018165
This. I think you only ever get this>>8018155 feeling as an aspiring artist yourself but for most other people its this>>8018165. Seeing you dedicate your time to sometime they view as nonsensical and childish as art that they consider work while being unable to easily do the very thing they look down on you for fills people with a unique kind of envy. Its why mentioning pursuing art as a career always gives a sort of passive aggressive response. Double so if you actually make it and people think your making money from goofing off and doing nothing at all unlike them who have to slave and are so so tired
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>>8017544
Once a year I get about as stoned as I can handle and listen to Lateralus
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Normies are never impressed when you tell them you're an artist. Only when you mention to them you do make money with it then they take you seriously instead of looking down on you. Money is all they can understand. And yet they spend their entire lives doing nothing but consooming things that had creative people working on it. They don't see the disconnect in their views though.
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>>8018215
>unlike them who have to slave and are so so tired
This. Christianity also programmed people to feel superior for being a slave while in reality hard work is a sign of incompetence.
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what books don't tell you is that you need a stable life and a will to live in order to draw. Every great artist had something to fight for.
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>>8018239
Its honestly no surprise that christians are the group most obsessed with AI slop and are the ones that fill youtube and social media with it the most
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>>8017589
>Loneliness, like everything in life, doesn't last forever.
I wouldn't be too sure about that if I were you. Also there are obviously people who are alone their whole life too. Some people just have it hard.
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>>8018242
Is that why there are so many female artists
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>>8018242
Look at Francis Bacon. Guy was basically an alcoholic thriving in chaos.
You don't really need a stable life. You just need to be able to work. Some people can do that even with depression.
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>>8017589
You literally have a family you see on a daily basis, why are some people so desparate to larp as loners?
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>>8018294
I aspire to be as removed from a stable life as he was
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>>8018295
Was thinking the same.
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do you guys think the AI stuff actually killed a lot of budding artist's motivations? I remember I had a couple days when it started actually becoming serviceable where I was really down about it and felt like i lost my sense of self value, but i managed to rationalize myself into a positive mindset to motivate me again. The idea though of a few thousand people's aspirations being snuffed out because of it makes me sad though for the future

On the other hand though a lot of beginners these days are just aspiring to make money off fetish porn, so maybe it was already lost
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>>8018294
>look him up
>"Bacon did not begin to seriously focus on painting until his late twenties, having drifted in the late 1920s and early 1930s as an interior decorator, bon vivant and gambler"
>bon vivant: A man who enjoys luxurious things in life, especially good food and drink; a man about town.

kill yourself you fucking retard. I can't believe I allowed you to waste my time like this
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>>8018304
In other words he was an alcoholic. You have to be a bit messed up in the midn to have a studio like he did.
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>he drank........ le wine!!!
>MY TWISTED FUCKING MIND
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>>8018316
It needs a special kind of discipline to be drunk everyday and still be able to paint. His paintings weren't that impressive technically but still. Some people are just autistic enough to work their ass off despite living in shit. Henry Darger is another example for this. Guy was basically abused in an orphanage and became a reclusive his whole life. He was some real autist tho and produced thousands of big paintings and the longest book in history.
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>>8018300
The only people who need to worry about AI are NPCs with nothing of value to say.
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>>8018300
ai actually got me back into art. something about the realization that it would never ever be able to make exactly what i wanted
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>>8018300
>do you guys think the AI stuff actually killed a lot of budding artist's motivations?
Definitely. The only people who benefit from AI are gooners and big corporations. The average person is just at a disadvantage. It's called commodity layer. This layer always creeps up a bit more to the common man the more technology advances. It was the same when photography was invented. There you also had lots of people who lost their jobs and motivations because photography basically replaced art for advertisments.
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>>8018326
>>8018321
i have seen these exact 2 posts before here
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>>8018321
art kind of needs a functioning society to exist in bro. AI is taking that away
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>>8018335
It's an ai
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>>8018335
it's a deja vu from not sleeping enough
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You are a breeding sow for the muse.
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>>8018321
80% of the planet are NPC with nothing of value to say, still the majority and the majority dictates the normal.
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What happened to /cgsg/?
I drew some cute boys and wanted to post them on here but there's no thread for cute boys anymore of any kind

>>8018307
I think the point anon was getting at was that he was rich and could do whatever the fuck he wanted
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>>8018381
Did it get folded into the fujo thread or lsg?
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>>8018381
lsg has lots of cute boys
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Your right I sick I will give up sorry
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>>8018119
Me on the weekend vs me on weekdays. I wish I had started learning how to draw when I was a full time NEET.
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I got fired from my art job because I sidelined it to work on college finals, I would've liked to have been talked to first but I literally just got the email saying they didn't need/want me anymore
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>>8018423
where did they come from i don't think they were around a few years ago
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>>8018423
>he "women's art" shit? seems smelly and gross and I'm not sure why it'd exist
it's just a bunch of troons you can immediately tell by the art, real women do get special treatment
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>>8018423
>art is about the subject not the artist, kinda narcissistic to flip it imo
I don't know if you're aware but narcissism is not uncommon among artists
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>>8018300
If anything, it encouraged me to start learning how to draw. As a /g/ fag, I hopped on the generative AI train right after it came out, managed to make some money with it (my GPU paid for itself in like a month), then got burned out on it and lost all faith in its future. It's shitty, soulless slop with exactly zero artistic value, and it's incredibly hard/near impossible to manifest something that you imagine in your head into existence using AI. It's not like drawing, AT ALL. The best real world application for "AI" is sloppy shitty images for advertisements which already are a blight upon this earth that no one wants to look at anyway, so it's not like you can make ads any worse.
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>>8018483
>GPU
Shit, I think it even paid for itself in 2 weeks or so. And people were tipping like crazy for shitty (slightly edited) SD 1.5 AI slop, too. Fucking retards. Still, I've fucking come to absolutely hate this "technology", and I don't even touch it at all these days.
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>>8018423
>art is about the subject not the artist
they're women, they just don't know better
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>>8018483
i opened a patreon but i think i did it too late (early 2025). Being able to prompt AI slop gives you real appreciation for actual artistry and art pieces but yeah nah shit's fucked specially the goon trash, the boorus are full of AI copies and traces, tons of X porn accounts with thousands of followers that are obviously tracing AI and the artists, the ones that are supposed to have an eye for this kind of slop can't even notice it's use if it's not obvious, basically hopeless.

>SD 1.5 AI

I started with illustrious. pony / SD looks like shit, illustrious is stiff but at least it looks nicer. I think i missed the train by a small margin. Also 0% chance of actually telling art made with anima, at least i personally can't tell it apart from real art cause it's no longer stiff.

Yeah idk, i was expecting AI to kill new artists , shitty drawings and porn but i was not expecting it to kill literally everything including professional artists. Most AI users are zoomers too, fucking gay and complete failure of a generation. Not sure i understand the point of copying AI for it's artistic value when it has none, larper generation
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>>8018459
>I don't know if you're aware but narcissism is not uncommon among artists
Why are they like that? I understand being an asshole while having the skills to back it up but most artists just like to swim in their own feces and the ones that also fellate them, a centipede that's made for circlejerking.
Obviously talking about "adults", not trying to punch down.
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>>8018300
Nah, i never saw AI as a real threat but it's simply impossible to escape the digital flood of shit both from sloppers and the piggies who want to consume nothing but slop.

Just biding my time until they all kill themselves.
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>>8018498
>2025
Way too late. I started in January 2023 on one of those freelancing platforms where people pay you to do all kinds of stuff for them. Tried spamming coomer shit on twitter/deviant with the aim of establishing a patreon later on too, but it didn't work out, so I just stuck with that freelancing platform and SFW stuff only. There were maybe only a couple other AI "artists" on there at the time, so I kinda lucked out, orders started pouring in and didn't stop until 3-4 months later. By that time, every fucking Indian and Bangladeshi figured out they could do the same, and oversaturated the market. It's probably not even worth touching this shit with a ten foot pole at all these days, as you won't make a cent with it, especially because Gemini and ChatGPT can produce much better and more visually coherent results than most local models can.

>Most AI users are zoomers too, fucking gay and complete failure of a generation. Not sure i understand the point of copying AI for it's artistic value when it has none, larper generation
It's tragic. The internet is at its fakest, lamest and most boring right now, and not least because of all the AI shit. I've been obsessively saving human drawn art from before AI was unleashed upon this world for over a year now.
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>>8018507
holy fucking kino
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>>8018505
>Why are they like that?
A not insignificant amount of people go into stuff like art for attention and ego reasons.
>Obviously talking about "adults", not trying to punch down.
Where do you think we are? Punch down all you want. It's not any different for teenagers, if anything it's worse. Young children at least tend to draw for the enjoyment of it.
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>>8018295
>>8018299
Well what if that family doesn't like you? What if you're some neurotic loser and that the only thing you kinda have going for you is drawing huh? Bet you didn't think about that sometimes you become alone and things can get oh idk lonely huh.
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Truth is nobody will care whether someone used Ai or not the same way no one cared when you used the lasso tool, stabilizers, warp tool, and the many other things /ic/ calls a crutch. What does matter though is when you stop enjoying the work you put in the drawing whenever Ai solves a problem for you either because you got lazy or too afraid to make mistakes. The challenge is gone and the reward mechanism responsible for appreciating your work is lost. We're reaching a point where you're going to be drawing because you actually enjoy it rather than chasing after clout.
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>>8017595
These
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>>8018527
>>8018539
Do you want to join a cute male harem
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>spent $200+ on watercolor supplies
>realize you like gouache better
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>>8018571
digitalbros we fuarking won...
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>>8018572
Yes
Digital is just more affordable (practically free considering you draw on your phone
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>>8018539
>lasso tool, stabilizers, warp tool
Idk how to use these toold
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What's the metagame of using hashtags on twitter? I've read that using hashtags while @ing someone negatively impacts visibility? Is that true?
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>>8018556
That Suwako is pure soul
What a great character
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>>8018581
Visibility is all kinds of fucked on twatter and depends on a mix of things like your location, whether you have the paypig badge, and whether the algo is convinced you're a real person and not a bot. And maybe other stuff too. It's a fucking gamble on whether you'll be plucked from obscurity by the algorithm or not. This is why I think Twitter is a massive waste of time as a total newbie. Post your shit on boorus, discord servers and reddit for more natural visibility, at least to gain an initial following. Twatter is a dumpster fire.
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>>8018581
There is so much misinfo around Using hashtags, but generally
>no more than 3 hashtags otherwise people will think you're a bot.
>Media and character name is literally all you will ever need which should rarely exceed 3.
>Keep in mind you can also rely on keywords since those are the same as hashtags. I.e a post with the caption "Superman" is no different from having "#superman" in your post. Generally just fit as many keywords as you can into the caption, if you can't, then use hashtags.
>Using hashtags while @ing someone does not impact negatively visibility. in fact, there's evidence for the opposite
>specifically if you @ someone with a POSITIVE caption, Twitter apparently likes that. I've made a post Using 3 hashtags while @ing another user and the post was a bit successful for me at the time. (Around 2k likes)
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>>8018539
>Truth is nobody will care whether someone used Ai or not
That's like saying no one cares that athletes dope in sports.
>the same way no one cared when you used the lasso tool, stabilizers, warp tool, and the many other things /ic/ calls a crutch
Digital art is not seen the same as traditional for a reason, but it's a false equivalency to treat it the same as AI generation which literally does everything for you.
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>>8018381
I think they basically migrated to /wao/ but you can always just make the thread again. If there’s interest then people will post
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>>8018571
did you get memed by markers or what?
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There was a time when something like 30% of the threads on the catalog had been started by me.
Lately I haven’t felt like making too many threads though..
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>>8018650
no I'm trying to pussy my way out of learning difficult medium
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>>8018686
Yep. Watercolor is hard as fuck. Or at least the skill ceiling hardcore.
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>>8018381
if you make a new cgsg could you allow traps? it's always been weird how they dismiss women who are into that stuff
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>>8018716
I tried making one and I was the only one posting besides one other person
It died when I started working on a piece that wasn't male only, so I'm kinda salty
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I've been studying and putting effort for drawing hands in my regular drawings but I'm still so shit at it. Sometimes the sketch looks good but when I take it to line and color, it becomes beg. Please recommend me artists to study and maybe books.
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>>8018565
Is it a group for drawing traps? Post TG or send me an invite on X and maybe we can do something with this X profile.

https://x.com/femboyguys
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>>8018734
Nah, it was just a shitpost I think, though I kinda did get into drawing initially with the aim of drawing otokonokos and such lmfao. It's just that my twink bf mentioned a while back that he would be okay with me having a harem of femboys and such, and I've sort of been toying with the idea this whole time semi-seriously, but without really pursuing anyone.

Also, I think you've already invited me to TG earlier.

>that X
Would be perfect for some 4chniz-oriented trap humor and OC imhotep.
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>>8018758
>Also, I think you've already invited me to TG earlier.
I'll DM you I have an idea. Also there's been an appetite on /ic/ to draw femboys it's just too bad that there's a Fujo infestation on this board who stir up drama. Let's make /ic/ great again I can help organize that old cute guy study general.
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>>8018595
>That's like saying no one cares that athletes dope in sports.
It's more like letting a robot wearing your face compete for you
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>>8018565
Hmm nyo!
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> yet another mikufag tranny trap general attempt
good luck kek
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>>8018778
who is mikufag
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>>8018760
Sure, Mr Serious Business Man Man.

>>8018768
Np.

>>8018778
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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>>8018781
permabeg that gave up on art and is now shilling shitcoins
another ghost of ic
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>>8018787
I like his art and I think it's cooler and head and shoulders above the abysmal slop most of this board can produce.
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>>8018788
is that supposed to be ex-s or aerial
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What's the best way to monetize my artwork while protecting my identity? What are the odds of a patreon/paypal/whatever getting hacked with all my info being leaked?
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I never get into flow during the day but motivation is easy at night and especially midnight I'm NEET but I want to start being awake in normal times. It's possible to turn that around right??
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>>8018804
with all the vibeslop and automated attacks going on, quite high
but who cares, really
just don't give a fuck
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>>8018788
this is a composition and appeal problem, not a skill one
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>>8018806
Some people are just naturally more nocturnal. If you naturally get more motivated at night and your schedule permits you to work then then embrace it, don’t fight it just because you’re “supposed” to
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>>8018781
Some tranny schizo that's been here for over 15 years at this point was permabanned off this board for being a tremendous dramfag when this board had better moderation. This is just Mikufags fifth or sixth attempt in the last 5+ years alone at reintergrating back onto the board. And because mikufag is a narcissistic tranny pedophile who barely draws he will make another dead general that will fizzle out while he runs back and forth between threads for the sake of creating gay ass cross thread infights and pretending he's not a collosial faggot and people just have it out for him because reasons.
>>8018782
>You say that like it's a bad thing.
Don't act surprised when the trap thread dies off when mikufag ultimately alienates everyone from using it kek
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>>8018824
I feared that was the case. I've done this for one week and drew less as a result. Not even some type of drug could fix this?
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>>8018758
>harem of femboys and such, and I've sort of been toying with the idea
your greed sickens me i can't even get one
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>>8018843
>your greed sickens me
Realistically, I probably have no time for a whole freaking harem of needy twinks while working a full time job, working out 5 days a week, trying to finish a backlog of anime/movies/shows + games and learning how to draw. Like I said, it was just a stupid shitpost. It probably was born from greed, stupid ego and everything in-between though, so you might be on to something.
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>>8018829
You really do NOT want to mess with sleep medication if you don’t have to. They either don’t work, or they have terrible side effects and a significant risk of addiction. Just go natural and let your body do what it wants
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I’ve genuinely never understood the whole femboy thing.
If I’m going to date a man then I want to get fucked by an actual masculine man. And if I want someone soft and submissive then I go to a woman, who is specifically built for that.
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>>8018859
I don't want to get fucked. I am a big tall masculine guy and I'm not really attracted to other guys like that. I've tried women and realized they're not my thing. At all. I like guys who are weaker and smaller than me. It's purely a preference thing, it's not complicated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnoptTyhFsE
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>>8018865
Also, I can appreciate the appeal of femininity to a degree, but I don't want my partner to go full fem and doll up like crazy and stuff like that. I still want to be with a guy who looks like one. I'm not one of those "traps aren't gay because they look like women" guys. I don't necessarily want a "trap".
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>>8018859
I want a partner with a soft body but boobs and vaginas do nothing for me. To be blunt, I find a cute penis and a shaved male chest a lot more attractive and i desire to frot.


also women are annoying and retarded. the twinks i've got my foot in the door with in the past were a lot more like women in personality though
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>>8018872
Chad opinion tbf. I sign under every word.
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Behind every Femboy on internet is a porn addicted loser who likes pic related IRL kek They couldn't get any real pussy so they became the dollar store version of pussy while trying to convince other men they are just like their little anime girls behind the screen. These are all just gay trannies in deep denial about being gay trannies and most will eventually kill themselves before 50 or when the government welfare stops supporting them so it's really a self correcting issue.
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>>8018888
>Weak gay men look like weak gay men, more news at 11
Wow, shocking. There's clearly at least some demand for these twinks, demented uncle /pol/. Otherwise they wouldn't exist.
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>>8018888
Neither of those two but if another Man goes out his way to doll himself up and provide the ultimate fantasy for you who are we to deny. There are some exceptional specimens out there who look incredible you cannot deny that.
>They couldn't get any real pussy to they became the dollar store version while trying to convince other men they are just like their little anime girls.
This is true and some Men have never approached a Woman in their lives because doing so is committing social suicide. It seems like there's a form of caste system and Women are at a class where they are the "untouchable ones" in other words approaching a Woman will certainly cost you as opposed to approaching a Man.
>Did he just approach that Woman? What a creep!
>He approached another Man, its just a couple of goofy bros.
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>>8018888
I have a beard and muscles and I'm 40 years old and yet I'd be a better femboy than all of those in that picture
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>>8018909
Let's shave it all off and get you into a shimakaze cosplay, brother.
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>>8018155

i think it's not that people see art as "not work", it's that capitalism has trained their brains to not see any value in things not done for money. even when art is done professionally, the amount of effort you put into learning how to create things well never justifies the time/effort sink from people looking to maximize the amount of monetary value they get out of their work.

>why become an artist and make $80K a year at a studio when you could have just grifted as an AI bro and made the same money with less effort

is the view that normies have.
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>>8018894
Nigger you're not a weak gay man you are a failed straight men and you all look like total shit without your filters, soft lighting, and tranny angles kek
>>8018903
If you solution to failing to attract women is to wear their skin and pretend to be the anime version of them you have way bigger issues than just women. Femboys are just Temu knock off of actual bimbos and their gay male counterparts the only people who don't see it are these trannies and their chasers.
>>8018909
The bar is in complete hell so you likely would kek
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I’m NGMI and should end myself y/n?
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>>8018985
y
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>>8018985
No.
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>>8018985
Yes
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>>8018888
ok
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Im tired of being fat and ugly, if I was better looking I’d stop wasting my time on self loathing and put actual work on drawing. Where should I start? Cut sugar and exercise everyday?
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>>8019081
>Cut sugar and exercise everyday?
Cut fats first, they're more calorie dense. At one point I just dropped my fat intake a bunch without changing my sugar intake and dropped a bunch of weight. Don't cut them entirely(you will die if you consume 0 fat for too long), but you can drop them a lot. This unfortunately means little/no high fat foods like chocolate, cheese, ect., but is probably the quickest way to drop weight with just a diet change.
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>>8018888
ho-oly holy numbers
to me you know what's insane? The lack of self-awareness that they don't even put any effort into that shit.
Imagine being a disgusting slob all your life and you figure that's why you ain't getting any pussy and decide to start over and reinvent yourself.... then you just put a skirt on and act like a corny zesty faggot while trying to exploit anti-discrimination social to not get criticized.

it's as funny as it is revolting but also raises a lot of red flags because these are just genuine low iq narcissists and autists because if you know actual gays and zesty niggas, you know those trooners are fakes.
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>>8019156
Not everyone is a blue haired caricature straight out of /pol/, chuddie.
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i cam remote view
how many minecraft e-dating discords are you managing?
holy shit
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I keep buying copics and I can't stop. There's always one color I'm missing for a drawing and then I come home with ten extra markers
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>>8018788
Look at how fucking /beg/ that gundam is kek Nigger went from tracing MMD an V Riod models to tracing Ai still fucking sucks kek. 15 years, never fucking making it.

>>8019156
Kek this is all there is behind the anime girl gif reaction image and pfps you see wherever you go on image board and social media. Completely failed to launch gooners manchildren in cheap ass polyester clothes and troon socks.
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>>8018826
>get mikutranny addicted to (you)s
>stop giving him any attention
>he dies and is permanently trapped in a cycle of trying to get attention
Remember mikutard, you could never win.
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>>8019156
Have you looked around at all lately? That's just the general state of things, no one puts effort into their appearance. The irony is that when people do they can look good(pic related, it's a man, baby).
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You're not that guy, buddy.
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>drew for 40 minutes
>brain feels like I just did a 3 hour exam
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>>8019232
drawing with effort takes serious brainpower
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>draw for 8 hours
>feel like you did a two week tour de france
>do it again the next day regardless
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>draw for a nanosecond
>feel good for the whole day
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take a look at this
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>utterly obsessed with 5+ year old drama
>/ic/ keeps bringing up some boogeyman dating back 15 years ago
Now it makes sense, are you guys really being resentful over whatever happened way back when kek. I called your art shit in the past and I am sorry.
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you remind me of another tranny on another board in another general that was constantly attentionwhoring and being annoying despite being ignored
i lured him into playing the game and i heavily humiliated in his game despite me being way lower ranked and he couldn't handle being made fun of but would constantly write paragraphs and samefag hard about me when i wasnt even around, even going as far as writing another cope about how i'm actually higher ranked because i casually raised my rank out of boredom

he even got 3 other trannies to dogpile on me and namedrop me because i was making fun of them since everyone hated them for turning the general into yet another tranny spam.

i just firmly believe abominations like you should kill themselves and me helping you achieve that is something like a community service
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>>8019263
Next year will be your year!
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>>8019263
>15 years
>hasn't improved one bit
fucking LMAO
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You may be confusing me with someone else, I stopped posting on the draw threads since like the beginning of 2020 but no matter I will admit I behaved like your typical crab and I'll apologize for it. Something a book will never teach you is how to remove yourself from your own ego and everything about art is involving your ego and it almost seems as if we turned having fun with drawing into a taboo there's nothing wrong with allowing yourselves to have fun and I know I have that's why I've been drawing for so long.
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Mikufag can't stop picking fight with entire generals to save his life. Shit this his third campaign against the fujo threads over not allowing tranny loli drawings alone. I'd tell you to get a life, hobby, or job but you're been doing this shit for 15 fucking years kek
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>>8018584
>Post your shit on boorus,
Don't booru jannnies usually have high standards and delete stuff when it isn't up to it?
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but you dont have fun
you just love the attention with the pretext that everyone hates you because of the things you present like loli and ai tracing and all the tryhard troll shit, which you do on purpose

if you had fun with drawing, you'd draw
but you've been avoiding drawing for 15 years
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>>8019304
NTA but some of my shit has made it on to booru sites, and it's not really all that good. it doesn't have to be, people just have to like it.
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man, i should really buy a new graphics card. I can't play games anymore.
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>>8019313
>man, i should really buy a new graphics card.
In this economy in this tech landscape?
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>>8019304
Decent standards yeah, but that just means you have to work until you can meet them, that's all.
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>>8019310
has he even replies to you?

what a strange performance.
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15 years and not a shred of improvement is also a strange performance
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>mikufag is back on /ic/
What board did you get permabanned from this time?
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>>8019408
No need, it's pointless to try and change the mind of someone Anonymous who'll just continue to drum up a boogeyman responsible for disrupting general threads. There will come a point when you will realize trying to please others here will siphon the enjoyment away from making art since this is not the general public. Pros who make a living from their work get nitpicked here but despite being able to find mistakes in their work the general public doesn't mind and still consumes the content /ic/ crucifies.

I remember back around 2016 someone made a post about how miserable they felt whenever they started drawing after finding /ic/ since they went from drawing for fun to drawing in the hopes of pleasing other artists and it was detrimental. /ic/ has a knack for crippling others and I'm now reminded why there's so much doomposting here kek. This may be the best art advice you'll ever hear, forget about fundamentals and the grind - you need to have fun first.
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whatever schizo you fags are talking about youre ruining the thread by flooding it with your bullshit. just ignore the retards and move on
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15 years and no boyfriend
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15 years man
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hatsune miku is a trans icon now?
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>15 years on 4chan and instead of having fun with your pencil you keep touching your penis and posting it on /soc/
the absolute state
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>>8019438
I've been here since 2008
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>>8019263
damn thats sad
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So are we gonna revive the /cgsg/ and post traps or what.
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>we?
who is we? do you need the validation of others to do things?
fucking pathetic

you should waste another 15 years tracing slop
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How come this wct was super fast?
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>>8019451
Because I participated in it
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it's over for me
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>>8019450
>do you need the validation of others to do things?

well she is a woman...
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>>8019454
it never even began for you
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>>8019451
it was 15 years overdue
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>>8019460
>woman...
very progressive of you to respect mikufags gender
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>15 years of progress
>gone
/ic/sisters....
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>>8019449
>skinwalking dead general
trannies are so weird.
>>8019450
kek
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>>8019451
I made 1 (one) innocent gay joke and the whole thread has devolved into a holy war. This board is fuckinh acoustic as fuck lol.

>>8019449
Would be nice.
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>>8019460
It's a what
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What can I say
I love yapping
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Jesus Mikufag how many times have you tried to make a tranny loli trap thread a thing on /ic/?

https://warosu.org/ic/thread/S6152256
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>>8019460
That thing has a penis
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It's kinda crazy how far this place has fallen. Who could have thought that posting traps would be controversial on 4chan of all places? Fucking newfags, man.
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>>8019491
>15 years of this shit
insane
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>>8019449
Just make the fucking thread if you want it back, jesus christ
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>>8019491
>you now remember chickenfutaoppailoliguy
Whatever happened to him. He was praised for drawing dick girls here, at what point did futa go wrong on this board?
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>>8019449
Make the thread please and ignore the retards
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>>8019449
/cgsg/
no, I want /cBsg/ what'd even the point if the shotas aren't brought back. I want my shotas!
>>8019499
noone said he that couldn't, try to read
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It's all part of that stupid Culture War (tm) which started in 2016 and now we're all god fearing Christians or something, I don't know, man
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>>8019505
I just want old 4chan (and the world) from before all the gamergate retardation back. So badly.
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better a god fearing christian than 15 years a pre-beg
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Street fighter 6 is one of the worst fighting games ever made and it caters to people that hate the genre. I curse everyone that does fanart of sf6 just to create some clout!
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upgrade your gpu, retard
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I have a 5070ti though
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>>8019495
15 years is right. Here's another mikufag gayop'd general that has almost zero art while he fought endlessly with /lsg/

https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7155708
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>>8017544
Make a friend and then teach him how to draw.
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>15 years of loneliness
thats suicide fuel
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>>8019502
>>8019557
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>>8019558
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
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>>8019560
Ain't that the point?
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I hate the screen tone on digital look. Why do digital niggers have to ruin everything
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>>8019546
but I am that friend... anyways i'm over it kinda. i guess there will be some days where those thoughts catch up to me. got a long overdue project i have to finish!
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It would be cool to have a robotic bust to draw from, one that could have different facial expressions. Maybe even change its face and hair.
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>>8019505
just ignore pol brainrot
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I find myself shrinking the head always and by a lot. Significantly smaller every time. Drawing the head first fucks up proportions then?
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always start by the torso aka the core, then build upon it. You will have an easier time
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>>8019663
A lot of people start with the head and body proportions are usually measured in heads. You can start anywhere you want as long as you keep your proportions straight.
Once you put down a head you have to match everything else to it. You think ok the chest is X head units down, the crotch is Y head units down, etc. If you just draw each individual part by feel instead of tying them to a single reference then you’ll get that problem where some parts feel too big or too small. Same rules apply to starting with any other body part like the ribcage
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>>8019513
Yeah it sucks ass, and the crazy part is that the wild success of the game sends the message to Capcom and every other fighting game developer that this is what people want and all games should be like this
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>>8019510
facts
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>>8019493
Trapfags and futafags are almost obnoxious as furries with their need to inject their fetish into absolutely everything
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I DON’T WANT TO WORK I JUST WANT TO DRAW AAAAAAAA
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透明感 is such a fucking retarded buzzword I hate it
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>>8019737
And a nip nong ching chong to you too, young lady
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The worst part about summer is that I get sweaty just from a simple walk to the corner store
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>>8019449
i would like this but if you are actually a notorious schizo the foid discord will just raid the general and nobody is going to post
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>all of that attention whoring ITT just to get his tranny freak general deleted anyway
Just another 'L' in mikutard's 15 year losing streak.
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>>8019710
none of these groups are bad, you just aren’t into what they like so whenever you see it you rage. and when you’re told off for raging you get angry
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>>8019822
Nah.
The crazy thing about furries is that they're even worse than you would expect. EVERY furry I have ever met has been a terrible person in one way or another. Just incredibly obnoxious, even when talking about things that have nothing to do with furryism or sexuality in general. There's a reason they've been a hated group for decades.
Futa/trap lovers aren't nearly as bad as furries, but they still feel the need to inject "DAE wish she had a penis??" in conversations where it's clearly not welcome.
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>>8019822
Every group of disgusting sexual degenerates who grooming and abuse children are bad nigger.
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Bread was deleted and there's a reason it was half baked, I expected it to be pruned since no mod will want to commit to help moderate it because of pic related so it's easier to just delete the whole thread.
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>>8019840
>only board with a 'no drama' rule
It's not though. Both (You) and sharteens are all just retarded newfags who don't draw.
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>Create an OC and file IP/copyrights
>Someone else uses an Ai version of the OC and claims they tweaked the pigment color and nose to not infringe
>Owner of the OC is filing a DMCA takedown
Who's in the wrong here? Interesting development if you want to follow.

>https://x.com/iambatjr/status/2089876042341400650?s=46

>https://x.com/iambatjr/status/2089865797917438294
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>>8020232
The non-AI artist is automatically in the right because fuck AI “artists”
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>>8020251
The guy using Ai will probably defend himself by claiming it was a tribute à la k*vshinov or a fanart which poses a question, how far can you use a character that has IP rights as fanart before it becomes a problem? The guy using the Ai version of the OC is using her to advertise his own shitcoin it'll be like us profiteering off a popular character by drawing lewds.
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>8020232
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>>8020232
>Who's in the wrong here? Interesting development if you want to follow.
I don't know how strict trademarks, but if some dipshit ai bro wants to fuck around and find out then he deserves it
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>>8020232
>twitter and /biz/ shit
looks like a pile of subhumans
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which one of you fags is spamming threads
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>>8020597
What?
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>>8020919
too early
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>>8022108
Nah, I'm not saying you should respond that way, what I'm pointing out is that someone in a similar situation outright said "No, I'm not gonna worry about that." and got away with reasonable objection, so just completely ignoring people and not taking a stance at all is a reasonable option that is not going to get you losing 90% of your audience or something. Because any sort of masked impression of agreement is just going to feed the system you are talking about even more, because now in their heads, you are a person who agrees and will listen and do what they say rather than "That guy who didn't ever respond to DMs!"
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What happened to the last thread?
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>>8022142
good riddance
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>>8022226
idk, someone else can make a new one
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>>8022435
why
this isn't even at page 10
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>>8022442
Not even /beg/ waits until page 10



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