Is there a structured daily drill program for drawing from imagination? I'm very satisfied with my reference drawing level but I completely blank out when it comes to inventing shit, I tried making my own daily practice regimes but I always feel like I'm not getting anywhere so I drop them, I need something imposed on me to actually follow through daily Horikoshi is my dream, I'd like to eventually be able to invent a scene and composition in 3D space, pose characters, and retain their likeness all while stylized
>>8031988Get models or action figures you can a draw and draw them from life and from photographs with different lenses and angles to study perspective and form everyday. Try to actually draw stuff that you can show people as a finished drawing too- as in clean lines and clear shadows even if it's just two tone lighting and values
draw from reference -> draw from memory -> draw from imaginationThat’s the order. Do Kim Jung Gi-style practice. Draw what you’ve seen outside from memory -> rotate it in your head -> draw the rotated forms.If you can do that, then you can just mix and match stuff in your head, then draw it.
>>8032026Are you speaking from experience?>>8032007Are you speaking from experience?
>>8032034Of course not. I was larping as an expert.
>>8032026KJG drew people walking on the street, always moving. How is that possible? I don't know, but he viewed them from many angles and absorbed that information. He learned to see and translate to 3D and detail from life is infinite, so that's how his drawings are so detailed.
>>8032059i think he trained photographic memory, staring at the object or moving person and observing until he could draw it on paper in full detail without looking up again.
>>8031988>Horikoshidon't let CHEATERS be your idols
>>8031988Sorry, that's a western secret technique, stick to tracing anime
>>8032062Not even close in similarity, what...
>>8032062abysmal CR
>>8031988Modern shonen slop looks so similar. Reminds me of Blue Exorcist, Black Clover and a bunch others.
>>8032007>>8032026I get that this is the method but this is all loose advice that I tried to follow and failed, I need an actual regime of x minutes x drawings at x intervals etc from someone that actually did it or I'm simply not going to stick to it
>>8031988>Is there a structured daily drill program for drawing from imagination? You gather lego pieces through reference drawing.You use those lego pieces while drawing from imagination.As you practice, you realize lego pieces themselves are made from smaller lego pieces.Simple as that.
>>8034453I can empathize with the frustration, but how would you draw from imagination if you can't make a decision but need others to tell you what to do? It requires making decisions The first step is wanting to draw a thing and to draw the thing you want the way you can. then pick whatever, one of things you would want to do better -study/research that specific thing. draw the thing you want. repeat forever.
>>8034463I need the imagination drawing equivalent of boxes and lines or gestures and anatomy to simply train my imagining muscles, currently my visual RAM is basically non-existent, even while looking at a reference I need to glance back and forth dozens of times for a simple thing instead of being able to look at something and then just draw it from my mental image onto the canvas. I need a daily regime that will build up my mental image RAM so that I could even being learning how to draw from imagination.
>>8034464Just feminize male characters into female and vice versa. Make skinny characters into buff demigods, then do the reverse. That is enough to tickle the creative bone. Then try to create fusion of two characters.Creativity is all about fitting different stuff from different context, to create something new and coherent. For example, Toriyama didn't create Goku out of thin air. He used lotus as a reference for his hairstyle.
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>>8034464Boxes and lines or gestures and anatomy are tools that expand your ability and palette, but it needs to start with the habit of making a drawing
>>8034466>>8034470I feel like you're missing the point of my posts, I can draw pretty well right now when I have something to reference, my satisfaction with my peak output is 7/10, however when I remove references and try drawing my satisfaction with what I draw drops to 1/10 because I can't really work things out in my head like artists usually do and all my drawing skill goes out the window. I want a daily regime that would build up my visualization and image memory so that I could actually see stuff in my head and increase my imagination drawing output satisfaction up from 1/10 and closer to my reference drawing satisfaction.
>>8034473Ah, so you can't draw anything without having a reference in front of you?
>>8034475I can, it just looks like shit, like what I drew before I even started drawing seriously
>>8034478>I can, it just looks like shit, like what I drew before I even started drawing seriouslyRead the "how to draw" from the sticky.
>>8034473This is why I say that to train drawing on your own, you need to draw on your own. Your satisfaction is irrelevant; get satisfaction from creating your own things out of nothing using exclusively your own brain juice not from how correct it is in the moment.
>>8034481I'm way beyond that>>8034482The stuff I draw with reference *is* stuff I draw on my own for myself, I've been trying to draw from imagination all this time as well but I basically haven't moved an inch in years which is what made me look for a dedicated imagination regime
>>8034484>I'm way beyond that>can't draw without a referenceSure
>>8034484It kind of depends on what you are not satisfied with. all drilling is mostly to sharpen technical ability. Try to learn instead of copying, change or rotate instead of copying. But mostly, continue to do what you are doing.
>>8034486Too illustrate how bad it is>draw three things today with the goal of drawing them from memory tomorrow to build up imagination drawing>tomorrow comes around and I can't even remember what the three drawings were let alone draw them>>8034491I'm mostly dissatisfied with the fact that I can't formulate a good drawing in my head, I first need to make an amateurish drawing on paper (like what I'd make 3-4 years ago) and then keep noticing and correcting huge fundamental mistakes until it looks barely passable, whereas when I have a reference I can immediately start mapping the forms, perspective etc on canvas without having to go through the fundamental mistake process. I feel like my mental image should be sharp enough to the point my imagination drawings should also be able to skip that process.
>>8031988i dont think i will ever be happy with my reference drawing skills, i am surprised that you are.
>>8032034They're right, I drew this from imagination.
My Creativity Grind https://youtu.be/1OSWR7xiQLk?is=zoktxMNoZPaq0SxR
As someone who is very interested in improving my ability to draw from memory/imagination here are some things that have worked for me.Assuming you are comfortable with figure drawing already start sketching people outside from life, and not just sitting poses where you have time to capture the likeness but walking, sports, kids playing, also watch movies and sketch.Books to help you with this are Walt Stanchfield, Manwatching by Morris (one of glen keanes favorite books), and Ron husbands quick sketching (imo don’t buy this one there is very little practical help more just tips and telling you to go do it). Think like an animator every action has a brief anticipation, can you capture it? Btw this takes years to get good at I still suck at it.While you are doing that start making fast doodles of ocs or whatever but don’t just try for a 3/4 pose or some bullshit pose that means nothing — remember your quick sketching and have your characters actually do shit - sitting, flexing, using props etc. think not only acting but how to make clear silhouettes too, again think like an animator getting ready to start a scene. I also recommend making the pose or doing the walk it’s just another step for understanding it better. Also practice animation you will be forced to draw from imagination even if it’s just for a breakdown or in between.Good artists to copy especially their gestural roughs not the cleaned stuff: Nine old men, also chuck jones - the latter worked almost entirely from imagination when he was boarding cartoons.Shit this board says that I think is nearly worthless for learning imagination: anatomy, crazy perspective tricks, trying to be like Kim Jung gi Things you should do more of: gesture, quick sketching, animation
>>8032062Lmao Kruger-san
>>8031988have you tried just imagining shit?LOLall artists since the renaissance have basically said everything you can imagine is already in nature.go study good art and get the fuck out of comic books for a while.
Here's your drill:Use a random word generator.Draw it from reference once.Generate a second word.Draw it from reference once.IMAGINE those 2 items interacting and draw the scene without reference.Repeat.
>>8034463>I can empathize with the frustrationLmao, I thought it's an AI response, starting like that.
>>8034464>>8034473>currently my visual RAM is basically non-existent>my satisfaction with my peak output is 7/10, however when I remove references and try drawing my satisfaction with what I draw drops to 1/10You're not a computer and learning to draw isn't like leveling up your stats in a video game. Unless you change this mentality you'll never improve. It's not even worth giving you concrete advice at this point.
