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got 6 images I'm ready to release. project is going. know what I have to study.
just wish I had more time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzvXBFwcyek

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Why do some Patreons (or simillar) fail while others are blessed with cash money~ every month

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Do artists normally socialize with other artists? It seems like most art servers are dead or talk about random gay shit and they rarely comment on x and bluesky.
People don't even seem to care to discuss techniques or what they're working on outside of farming updoots.
Was this always the nrom or was it different back when you were uncs?

>>8032119
>the nrom
*the norm*

>>8032119
It's much easier in real life. Making art friends online feels impossible.

>>8032126
this.
>went to a life drawing class
>made a bunch of old women friends

cool op image choice, it’ll make for good feels while it’s around.

>>8032119
>>8032126
I feel like everyone on twitter speaks too definitively which makes it hard to start or join conversations because a lot of stuff just feel like statements made to get approval or laughs from likes and not really to start a conversation so it becomes bit awkward to start a conversation naturally without feeling like you're rudely interjecting

>>8032119
It’s pretty much the norm yeah. Art is intrinsically very solitary and internet art communities have always been surprisingly small considering how common of a hobby/job it is. Plus art attracts a lot of introverts in general

>>8032160
Yes, Twitter is terrible for it. I also feel like people online behave in a more aggressive way compared to real life.

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You guys keep bringing up the lack of engagement with each other. Since we can't share Twatter links here why not just create a group already and like/repost each other? It's just a click why is this so incredibly difficult kek.

8032166
missed the point entirely retard

>>8032166
>Since we can't
>why not just

Why don't you? Why are you waiting for me to make shit for you? Do you not have a shred of leadership skills?

>>8032166
No, thank you, if it means I have to engage with permabegs whose art I don't care about at all.

>>8032166
the algorithm sees through basic jeet tactics like those

>>8032170
I already made a /biz/ adjacent art group with at least a couple of drawfags, one of them being a trad painter but each time I try and invite someone from /ic/ you react as if I am trying to pry your teeth out.
>>8032172
That's true, an alternative is to go ahead and share you socials here and then like/repost every time you see one of you come up on the timeline.

8032177
>literal cryptoscam faggot is still here

>>8032177
Good morning sir.

>>8032119
Nah, art moots can fuck off. It's a zero sum game afterall.

>>8032177
>linked a twitter drama post related to /biz/ drawings last thread
we're just not into your dogshit meme coin or whatever bro. you subtly looking to us for affirmation on that post sealed it.

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>>8032177
>but each time I try and invite someone from /ic/ you react as if I am trying to pry your teeth out

Not you again. How many times to I have to tell you to stop with the telegram shit? This thread is not a stealth promo for your dumb group. /WCT/ is for artists to talk about [thread macro] in the OP.

>at least a couple of drawfags

Maybe you're dyslexic. >>>/biz/ is over here. There shouldn't be "at least" for an art group. There are a million different ways to advertise your group. Being an annoying foid is not one of them.

Mikufag is a woman?

>>8032200

It doesn't matter; she has no healthy eggs left.

>>8032119
This is a problem with most open internet spaces now. And even if you find sociable people, they may not necessarily align with your goals.

shit thread, anyway

>doodling random shit
>being lowkey creative
>sketching skills back up all of a sudden
>best color cohesion instincts ever
i dont want to waste another of these "high" periods without getting a finished illustration out of it. I am getting learned helplessness desu

>>8032119
believe it or not /ic/ is the best place for artist interaction online - not twitter, not bluesky, not reddit, not discord, but /ic/, and the reason is simply because there's general for everything in this board unlike social media where conversation is almost nonexistent and interaction is all based on internet point and how people 'own' each other in there. Not to mention that those sites and secluded community, like you said, eventually becomes dead over time or simply turn every conversation into gay shit where each members groomed each other and troon out... theres too many shit and negative things in social media and the last thing that you want is to become a /beg/ in there

>>8032119
>Do artists normally socialize with other artists
obviously, thinking otherwise means you've been on /ic/ way too long

>>8032200
gay male transvestite

>only twatter post that gets interaction is me making fun of a AAA game
garbage normie site

>>8032268

I wouldn't lose hair over shitter. Someone with 100 followers can get a viral tweet from asking a stupid question. Who really knows how the algo works.

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Just saw an ai slop batch on Pixiv get over 1,000 bookmarks...

>>8032327
Of course not. People can finish pieces in that amount of time.

>>8032327
>>8032328
Depends on how detailed you're being about it

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>>8032331
It seemed like it was gonna be pretty simple but im still trying to learn stuff like brush economy and being careful about my brush strokes. Its looking pretty good so far though in my opinion.

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>>8032084

i've been taking an extended break from drawing floor plans right now. i'm waiting for october 1st when i'll be able to commission a vgen artist for 3D blender model of my covenant light cruiser for $350 (october is my birth month and mommy spoils me).

the 3D model will have actual internal mapping guides in 3D space that i'll be able to take orthographic images of in blender, which would mean that i'd be able to complete 100% accurate floor plans instead of just guestimating space.

even with a 2D illustration of the ship, i can only approximate the shape of each deck bast on external cues, and even deck elevation and maximum length/width is an approximation.

as my largest project yet, i plan on making these plans as accurate as physically possible. i'm about 2/3rds done with deck 1 with what i have so far, but i'm going to need to redraw it all again once i get better guides and a model i can thoroughly inspect from all sides. but because i'm a hack with a very narrow artistic skillset, the lack of a long-term project to work on obsessively when i have insomnia means that i haven't had a good outlet for my autism so i've been posting /pol/tard shit on deviantart more often and posting furshit on /co/ that doesn't get any bites but i'm feeling creatively unfulfilled as i sleep all day and neglect my chores.

i didn't really think i needed art all that much, i guess i do, if only to contain my neuroticism

>>8032332
post it silly

In my quest to improvement I find myself having less and less space onscreen for the drawing program itself. I need to be looking at a lot of references and a second monitor is physical clutter for the most part. Hopefully by the second year or so I'll stop needing so much photos

>>8032327
You get faster as you get more practice

>>8032218
>avatarfag
>permabeg
Many such cases

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>>8032084
fucked one of the nude models at an art studio I would regularly go to paint and socialize and now I've been banned for as the art director said "unprofessionalism" even though I know for a fact she's slept with multiple artists that have come to these sessions before.

>>8032496
Lame. He’s just jelly

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>>8032119
I've had artist friends and they usually show me what they're working on to ask for critique. I never share my work so it's a one sided art relationship which only works if the other party is fine with it.

In my opinion there's a difference between doing art and art as a topic of interest. If you want to discuss art as a whole (other artists, techniques, art history, etc) you have to find someone who likes to discuss that and sometimes those people are not artists. Many artists just like drawing while having no interest in it as a topic of discussion.

>>8032704
>Many artists just like drawing while having no interest in it as a topic of discussion.
I have noticed that that’s not uncommon among artists. But it’s pretty unusual among all hobbies/jobs when you think about it. Most people like talking about what they do. Musicians for example will never shut the fuck up about music. Ever.

>>8032729
maybe the passion ends up on the canvas

>>8032704
>it's a one sided art relationship which only works if the other party is fine with it.
I'm relieved to hear that that kind of relationship is something other people do.

>>8032119
I think that other artists couldn't care less about someone with no status like me.

>People don't even seem to care to discuss techniques
They purposely don't want to share their process/techniques/whatever. And if they say someting, it's an half truth most of the times.

Examples?
>When they share a PSD, there are only 3 layers as everything was merged
>"It just a round brush" (it's not)
>Conveniently covering brushes/layers/blend modes in a video process

These people wouldn't talk even under torture.

>school starts up again
>board slows to a crawl
I thought 4chan was a boomer website?

>>8032795
Some people work/is a wagie. Not everyone is a NEET drawing big animay tiddies all day.

I fucking hate my life for having to do all these humiliation ritual of commuting, going to work, meeting, attending workshop, excel spreadsheet, pdf document, and all that stupid retarded gay stuff shit that keeps distracting me from drawing. I just finished a sketch yesterday but I have to wait until saterday to actually put a color to it and render the shit out of it because there's a goddamn corporate workshop tomorrow morning and i have to hit the bed soon in order to wake up early and so on. All i want to do is a little bit more time to draw and painting alone all by myself

>>8032827
Thanks for keeping the economy alive

>>8032795
This board was only "fast" because you niggers made every 3rd thread into your tranny chat room.

Do the 4chan admins ever accept new drawings for the ban page o algo? How would you submit pieces?

I am going off the deep end with my OC, send professional help.

>>8032934
post your oc bro let's workshop it together

>>8032920
They definitely have a group chat somewhere for admins/jannies but idk where. If you can’t find a way to contact any of the jannies personally then maybe just use the generic Contact Us address that 4chan uses for advertisers and such

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>>8032119
I find 'art' is too broad of a topic to form any bonds over, art is not some singular thing you can easily share a common interest about.
It'd be easier to find a subject you both find interesting then just happen to both draw things about that subject, like whatever anime or vidya you both happen to like.

>>8033144
Yeah I think that’s definitely the way to go. Just hang out in manga/comics/vidya spaces and make friends with people who also happen to draw

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>figure drawing from imagination during lunch break
>paying close attention to proportions and shapes
>trying to draw as lifelike as possible
>coworker comes over
>"OHH, is this ANIME?"
mfw

>>8033429
That’s a compliment. Most people are desperately struggling to make their drawings look more like anime. (Although, this guy probably didn’t have a very discerning eye to begin with)

>>8032119
it's people in general now
even normies are so busy trying to suck their own dicks all the time

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Are you going to draw this labor day weekend?

>>8033593
Labor day was last month. Sorry you're american

>>8033593
Im not joining your telegram

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>>8033596
>immediately hanging up on an indian telemarketer

>like a kinda inactive account's post
>deletes all of their gallery
What the fuck

>>8033654
You reminded them that it existed and freaked them out

I drew today for a contest and felt nothing.

>>8033718
hope you win anon
did you see some entries you like?

>>8033747
half the entries so far are AI since it isn't against the rules, the concept matters more than the artwork or some shit. The last time they ran this contest they were spammed with slop as well and real art still won in the end, so i'm trying to stay optimistic for that much. I'll be fine with a consolation prize.

>>8033593
I draw every single day no matter what, so yes

>>8033440
It could've been an art studio, then his coworker could be an artist too. We just don't know.

>>8033775
I’d be shocked if there was more than a single digit number of people on /ic/ who work in a physical office AND make art for a living

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Clean up.

>>8033906
Forgot to link
>>8031241

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>>8032084
Why do people act like they are so much better than someone else simply because they draw NSFW...?

Ok, we get it, you're afraid of titties that doesn't make you special.

>>8033919
Same reason society has always been puritanical about sex and porn I guess. A lot of people just have really deeply ingrained hangups around sexuality

>>8033919
But they ARE better, those SFW artists can get collabs. Once you go NSFW, those doors close (in the west, not Japan for some reason)

>>8033935
>those SFW artists can get collabs
a fucking vore porn artist got hired to work on Invincible, what are you even talking about lol

>>8033936
Vore is safehorny, in Japan a SFW artist saw a Blue Archive girl and it made him go full lolicon, that CAN'T happen in the west.

>>8033940
Doesnt matter, you can't really quantify whether or not an artist is "better" simply based on collabs.
You have porn artists working with actual celebrities like SLAYEDdotcoom

>>8033919
>Why do people act like they are so much better than someone else simply because they draw NSFW...?
Why do people who refuse to draw NSFW act like they're so much better? It's just fucking dick-measuring egotist shit.

>>8033940
>Vore is safehorny
>Being eaten alive with depictions of someone getting digested with a boner is more socially acceptable that some flat chested girl just standing there

>>8033940
>Vore is safehorny,
No it isn't. The fact that you think it is shows you've been spending too much time online and in porn spaces

I cannot even make art out of my mental breakdowns baka

>>8033950
Not him but it is, ask anyone on /v/.

>>8033952
>on /v/
You see the point I'm making about being too online and in porn spaces?

>>8033944
It kinda is yeah

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>another server I was apart of dies after foids started joining

Women quite literally ruin everything. I'm convinced its like a fetish or something for them.

>>8034007
They should really just have a group of their own, I don't understand why they feel the need to join others that are clearly male dominated.

>>8034011
Unfortunately, women are highly social animals and seek out large established groups full of men for attention/validation.

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I hate myself so much.
All I ever wanted to do was to be an artist and making a living by doing what I love.
I drew a whole graphic novel, wrote a whole actual novel that I then illustrated, and I have an extensive portfolio of works that people compliment effusively pretty much every time they see it.
But I got abused a lot. My mom was a drug addict who committed suicide and my dad is a communist who had an affair on her and kicked her out of the house while she was dying (I was a teenager).
A year before she died, she saw a piece that i did that caused her to start crying, and she told me to promise her that I would never give up on this.
But that was 14-15 years ago. I'm in my early 30's now and I am an absolute and unmitigated failure as not just an artist but as a person.
Picrel is just a 20 minute doodle because I don't want to share my better stuff in this context, but I'm just tired. I don't want my identity to be wrapped up in whether or not my art makes money, but I just loathe myself for being unable to make anything work financially.
I can barely even do porn right ffs.
I don't know how a person gets told they're the best at something over and over and over again for their entire life without ever managing to get their shit together.
I just cancelled a movie night with 2 of my friends because I'm in such a miserable cunty mood.
I don't what's going to happen to me. I just got diagnosed with ADHD at 33. It's been 2 months and I have no idea when they'll let me start taking meds for it. I'm estranged from my family. My older sibling abused the fuck out of me. My life is terrible. Afaik I'll end up homeless.
I just hate myself so goddamn much sometimes.

>>8034025
>I don't know how a person gets told they're the best at something over and over and over again for their entire life without ever managing to get their shit together.
Honestly a terrible thing to tell a person. Complacency is a hell of drug, really fucks you up.

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>>8034025

>>8034025
now imagine all of that but you had no friends in real ilfe.

It could be worse.

>>8034044
Very true.

>>8034032
Thank you.

another day spent not drawing. The worst part is, I feel great anyways.

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>>8034074

>>8034076
nothing wrong with me, its society that's the problem.

one day I will break through from the low /beg/ stage to the mid /beg/ stage

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Recently switched from trad to digital and oh my god I see the light. This feels like im cheating it so nice to use, I should've made this changes years ago

>>8034093
I've been forced to switch back to trad these last two weeks and really opened my eyes to how stuff I crutch on digital. Also my back hurts me less on digital

>>8034097
Stabilization, Crtl z, layers fuck its a whole new world i can do anything, but i dont wanna lose my trad skills so imma still do trad whenever im out the house or traveling

>>8034093
i remember feeling the same way after working and practicing in traditional media for like 2-3 years and use one of those big wacom display tablet in my graphic school at my final year in there. Feels like a graphic design.

>>8034122
Please come join us here. No artist allowed.

advertising a general is more pathetic than the telegram/discord somehow

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>>8034131
At least the general is IN the board as opposed to the million others generals that killed. I'm not trying to split the last 10 people, i'm trying to unite them under one flag.

The flag of the Beast

>>8034074
thats great actually

>>8034133
how did you take this picture

>timelapse
>sketch already finished

>>8034217
I do that too. It's just that I remember to record when the sketch looks good.

I feel like artists hide the amount of study they do

>>8034246
not so much as hiding as it's pointless to post thousands of failures
anyone of sufficient intelligence understands behind an actual good piece there's thousands, tens of thousands of failures that lead up to it

something zoomer about expectations and confusion about not translating anything you do on social media

>>8034246
normies and the majority of other artists don't care, so no point in sharing
normies just want to consume pretty pictures and those other artists want to be wowed

Also most studies don't look like finished works like most ecelebs twatter accounts content creators want to make everyone believe
you can have the shittiest drawing ever but it was helpful for you to make something click
Does it make good content? fuck no, because its not the pretty awesome rendered picture with colors out the wazoo so its worthless to anyone but you

>>8034025
>I don't know how a person gets told they're the best at something over and over and over again for their entire life without ever managing to get their shit together.
Just because you are the best football player in your circle doesn't mean you will be able to make money with it.

People always eem to have this misconception that every talented artist will be able to make money with his stuff. They don't think like this when someone is good at sports tho. Just because you are good at chess doesn't mean you will be able to make a living with it. The competition is just too high for that.

>>8034025
Just wanted you to know that I feel for you man.
All you can do is take it one day at a time and try your best.

I feel like anons hide how often they shit.

>account with thousands of followers
>1 digit following
>im one of them
Do I hit up their dms or what

>>8034446
If he hasn't made contact yet, then he knows about dont meet your heroes, it's best if you don't ever talk to him.

>>8034448
I'll take that as him simply liking my art then. He doesn't have replies either, a little creepy honestly.

>if you reply you're cringe
>if you don't you're creepy
you just can't win

>>8034246
Putting aside failures, studies usually aren't interesting or worth sharing unless it's for fellow artists or it's some high level study by an already pro artist for public consumption.
I've done countless "successful" studies where I got what I wanted, but by no means are they interesting or, more likely, complete enough to be worth sharing.

>>8034446
Yes. He likes you a lot but is too shy

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>>8034025
hahahahahah
ahhahHAHHAHAHA

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
THIS WOUUUUUUUUNDS THEY WILLLLLL NOT HEAAAAAAAAAAL

Not the first one i've seen today earlier, someone just wrote a fucking kilometric rant about his dogshit life and how he's alone ugly and taking care of his cat (grats dude , mid life crisis and you have a toxoplasmosis BOMB that will give you schizophrenia, 400IQ chess move right there).

Guess what faggot, no one cares. Kill yourself in silence, the world is HYPER OVER POPULATED thanks to zoomers and horrible HORRRIBLE people having kids when they shouldn't, i will never feel bad for you , you lower my quality of life.

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>>8034526
You are fucking evil.

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>I'm so dark and edgy
2012 was 14 years ago

>>8034025
You'd be fine with a bit of studying. There's a decent base there that shows you know what to do so don't call yourself a failure yet

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>>8034535
Didn't your parents teach you how to NOT interact with homeless people or people that are rotten apples? I'm the good guy, i'm the nicest guy you'll ever see.

You don't have what it takes to be a good guy, this is why everything is so rotten these days.

>>8034538
This is what pure evil looks like. Feeding delusions. Tell him to find a job or lead

>>8034544
He can find a job and still try to get better on the side. The two aren't mutually exclusive

>>8034552
First of all the post is probably fake (hope is not honestly)
Second look.at.the.fucking.drawing.

>>8034526
>"the world is HYPER OVER POPULATED"
>"you lower my quality of life."
>30 year old failure getting mad at another 30 year old because the latter is open about his failures
kek

>>8034562
I'm not a failure in the normal sense, just in the artistic sense.

All you guys are telling me is that i should be feeding a loop of dogshit drawings as long as the guy that's doing them makes you feel bad. Cool, reminds you of something?

>>8034560
>Second look.at.the.fucking.drawing.
I did. I wouldn't have said what I said if I didn't. I'm sorry I'm not kicking someone when they're down because they aren't an expert in their field

>>8034566
I never said you couldn't or shouldn't. just that your last line only made you look like a little bitch as well. simple as.

its crazy to me how there are /beg/ artists that are married or have girlfriends. AND SHE KNOWS ABOUT HIS ART. I have to be fucking perfect at drawing or else I dont deserve to be loved, while these people play on easy mode. All artists worse than me should just die.

>>8034603
normalfags are a cancer. They have no self-awareness

>he is still replying to his own ai slop doomer trolling
the absolute fucking state of these trannies

>>8034610
We can change that by simply posting our work. A wip, a sketch, whatever it is you have on your screen right now.

>posting your work
>on the dead board that is infested by trolls
wow anon that was so heckin epic witty
almost posted my work!
upvoted!

this. Blame the crabs for half of the people here, that they are not posting work

>>8034687
There has literally never been any time in /ic/ history where work posters outnumbered non work posters

nodraws didnt use to be this insufferable and autistically relentless in their spamming as they are now
back then it used to be actual crabs, now it's just outsiders and tourists + m***fag + ai spam because they believe it makes everyone explode

honestly, if i spent all my waking time trying to insult and troll people, i'd just kill myself

>>8032084
gun to my head
>get drawing or your brain are flying out!
show me its real

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Every time I try to color its like nails on a chalkboard
Part of me says it's not that bad like when I zoom out the color choices n shit look okay

idk what it is though, I just don't like the way any attempt at coloring I've tried looks. Everything is so high-effort and painstaking
>Why not stick to lineart?
Well, I'd like the option to express myself in color yk
Line art feels like my strong suit but at the same time my B/W stuff isn't good enough to look "finished" on its own it almost always looks like "just line art"

>>8034966
rip

>>8034966
because you think 'coloring' is less thinking

>>8034741
>honestly, if i spent all my waking time trying to insult and troll people, i'd just kill myself
skip to the end my good sir

>>8034994
coloring is less thinking, he just never did the prerequirement thinking

>>8035130
no
no drawing is ever not thinking

>>8035130
That’s the kind of attitude that leads to the awful coloring you see in American comic books

yeah i think its over for you elf-tard
i'll show you something incredibly cool