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tips on drawing expressions? do i really need to know every muscle in the face?

* please post your work, or i will not read your post!!
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>please post your work, or i will not read your post!!
He screamed at the void while not providing his own work.
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Draw many expressions roughly until you get near the one you want, then draw the final draft very lightly, committing to the lines that serve the drawing by making them darker.
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>>8032316
>>8032324
pyw
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>>8032313
This is one of those things where you just need to copy a bunch of examples and build your intuition.
You are not going to reason out every expression from first principles using your knowledge of facial anatomy and how the muscles move, that’s ridiculous
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>>8032467
pyw>>8032324
>>8032316
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>>8032313
This is really what matters most
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>>8032635
Here’s some AI slop I had to copy for a children’s book. I made the laugh using Loomis’ guide
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>>8032635
looks beg. Anyone else?
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>>8032638
lol you have a very choosy attitude for someone who needs assistance with drawing facial expressions, one of the most basic things artists learn to do.
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eybrows, eyes and mouth. thats it
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>>8032640
No, that’s not it. The muscles are incredibly important
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>>8032639
pyw
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>>8032598
You’re the one asking the questions, you’re not really in a position to be so demanding lol
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>>8032313
Keep a mirror nearby when you're drawing
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>>8032313
The most important part is to invent expressions rather than merely copy the expressions of previous artists, as is common amongst artists who learn from Disney (or popular anime)

Copying leads to inbreeding, not being as good as the original artists, and your work will just blend in with that of other fans, and you won’t be able to do your own unique characters that feel alive and different from other people’s


Life should be the number one source for the expression of your art
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>>8032313
I would tell you the secret that no one else has mentioned but I'm not posting my work so I guess I can't.
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>>8032792
I did already lmao
>>8032637

I’ll post some loomis muscle studies tho since it’s on topic

>>8032794
This lol
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>>8032873
Heavy on life drawing
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>>8032313
You dont even need to learn expressions you want to show emotions on face.
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>NO work posted
Goddamn how am I supposed to know if any of this advice holds water
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>>8032981
Yeah this is definitely a troll thread lmao
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>>8032313
ok work posted
>>8032324
this works
>>8032467
this works well
>>8032873
this is good. when I (vaguely) copy anime it looks cool but just another copy really.
>>8032981
lots of advice holds water, I can confirm for you.
drawing silly expressions is fun so just do it a lot, experiment. copying muscles is good for learning anyway, but isn't going to get you expressive stuff. loomis expressions are stiff.
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>>8032803
*also good
selfies are another option, just be aware the camera lens distort.
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>>8032313
I think it's more important to focus on the actual expressions rather than the forms OF the expressions. You can see a smiley face and understand the expression. Likewise in the forms you showed the disnified versions are simple but very effective and exaggerate to maximize the effect.

I think a lot of us fall into the trap of trying to get the forms right when really we're trying to convey the emotions of a character. Once you are able to throw down more than 5-10 expressions you might try to match the forms for realism or whatever. But as you begin don't bother with trying to find the nuances. Just look for the expression and make sure they read correctly.
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Trace from looney tunes and other old slapstick cartoons until it look good
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>>8033028
thank you, finally a trustworthy source. these look great
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Can autists do this work or would their inability to feel emotions prevent them from drawing expressions of them
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>>8033695
Wtf is this AI bullcrap?
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>>8032313
zarins wrote a whole book on this
the anatomy of facial expressions
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>posts Glen Keane beanmouth
>do I have to know every muscle in the face???
what is this foreign logic?

also what is the reason that americans are so puritanical about AI, as if it stopped them from picking up a pencil and drawing?
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rofl
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^
see >>8033697
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Wait, is this another thread trying to normalize AI slop?
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>>8033697
>>8033728
>>8033738
It's an expression sheet, the entire fucking point is that (You) take it and and draw something lightly based off it, it's not a finished piece in itself. American movies are full of AI shit and the notion that no one else should use it is such fake astroturfed bullshit.

Everyone's seen the /int/ threads so what are you trying to prove with some bitch comments
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>>8033740
>posts thing to rile up artists
>um you guys are bitches!
kekaroo. go back to nig/g/er land
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>>8033757
You shouldn't be riled up that easily, you can learn a lot looking at AIslop. Why you'd prefer to look at endless bad reference photos or muscle diagrams instead, where you have no ability to exert additional control, detail, or alternative posing, is very obscure.
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>>8033757
>>8033738
Are these the same people that love posing apps? I think so.
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>>8033766
That's how you learn, by having to figure shit out. if you copy only, you don't learn. copying AI will make your work look more like AI.
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So, why do you guys think people post these AI slop nonsense on /ic/? Just to troll? It’s getting pretty weird.
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>>8033784
just to troll I think. But they might be AI cultists.
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>>8033784
Same idea why people vandalize shit imo. It’s a shitty world. Everyone is so stressed. Shitposting on /ic/ is an outlet for some of them.
I honestly don’t think they have this grand plan to kill /ic/, or promote AI slop, or convert people to AI slop. Shitposting on /ic/ and getting (you)’s just make them feel slightly better. Nothing more.
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>>8033773
>>8033784
>>8033794
>>8033806
do any of you pontificating dittobrained vaginas actually DRAW? Were you aware that art is a technology?
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>>8033156
mogs me
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>>8034103
(you)
feeling better?



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