I don't mind AI image gen existing. I do mind that artists hare being accused of using AI(by AI users trolling), then have to go and prove something is drawn by hand, and this is getting harder to do...

>>8034232
the government needs to step in atp. bunch of dinosaurs think this is ok but mickey mouse needs 10 billion years of copyright before it hits public domain.

Did anyone see that AI Dragon Ball where all the Saiyans are black.
WHAT A FUCKING HOOT. They are literally trying to rage bait ON TOP of it being AI.

It absolutely will be a net negative to art and creativity. I used to think that democratizing art wouldn't be completely awful, but fuck me... it absolutely is. Human nature is too corrupt.

artists will just move back to trad at least until they make drawing robots

>>8034248
true thats what i do. ai tards are too money hungry and lazy to trace illustrations traditionally. let them have digital it never looked good regardless.

>>8034248
no one is going back to trad you delusional retard, and you can fake trad anyways.

>>8034256
> and you can fake trad anyways
you may aswell just learn illustration atp. the fact that you think its so easy to fake trad shows you know nothing.

>>8034228
that's uh, a right hand.

>>8034264
a human drew the sketch. and it's a left hand with a messed up pinky finger.

>>8034256
no you can't
jpegs aren't trad

>>8034228
>They swear up and down that AI isn't made to scam or deceive
I genuinely don't see or hear this argument anywhere outside of pro-AI corpo talk. The public psyche associates AI with scamming and in fact the various upcoming laws for internet IDs are being proposed precisely because of growing AI fears.

>>8034228
pillow shading clanker

>>8034274
every single boomer bought into ai and the internet id kikery has nothing to do with ai, and is in fact pushed by the same people pushing flock and the like

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>>8034228
It’s basically a kind of sick game to them. The deception IS the point

>>8034228
>This has literally no use other than to deceive people
There's been a "Speed Paint Video Creator" AI for a while now, just to fake this stuff. I suppose this update just cuts out the middleman.
As for any other possible uses... maybe it's so you have editable layers? Though, I don't understand why it would be drawing step by step, since there doesn't really seem to be no use for that other than for deception.

Doesn't surprise me that this is Chatgpt, Scum Althuman is literal shit wearing human skin -- completely immoral and seemingly borderline retarded, based on how he's running the company.
Also, Scum's stupid fucking vocal fry drives me up the wall. He talks like he was molested as a child, and based on how misanthropic he seems to be, he probably was.

>>8034251
>ai tards are too money hungry and lazy to trace illustrations traditionally.
Actually, painting competitions are having trouble with people using AI references. Though, I think that's less of an issue with retarded AI proompters, and moreso a problem with painters who stick way too closely to their reference images, and them not giving much of a fuck about AI (and therefore being willing to use it as a reference).

>create, enable and foster a culture of slop
>everyone craves and makes slop
>"yo wtf why do piggies want to consume the slop that the slop makers now use machines to do that and try to deceive and lie to scam piggies?"
honestly, what are you even expecting nowadays?
let the pigs roast themselves by getting scammed then maybe they'll learn (they won't)

>>8034228
This is gigabased for learning. Only retarded commission trannies hate this.

>>8034437
no one outside ot maybe chinese uni students will use this for learning

surely advancement in AI would lead to AI that detects and filters out AI content, right?

>>8034449
AI has been surprisingly ass at detecting AI so far. Think of all the stories with false positives, from artworks, to school assignments.
Hell, if you put in a piece of work that's already been trained on, the AI detection will declare that as AI... because the AI recognises it as something AI was trained on, therefore likely to replicate...

>>8034455
so much for AI being the best at everything

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>>8034247
>literally trying to rage bait
Anon, that's like 90% of what you see on the internet now and 99% everything around AI.
When it's not ragebait or trolling, but genuine conversation or something that gets the "trolls" uppity, you're just getting insults i.e. soft-censorship

Do you believe anyone that is "pro-AI" actually is some AI worshipper? Nope, they're all trolls and contrarians because now everyone just says, does and thinks about things on how to get random people mad, to ultimately and for the sole purpose of getting attention or engagement on social media.
You post on the internet to get people mad.
You play pvp games to get people mad.
You make content to get people mad.
You say opinions just to make the other side mad, which you will play as well.
Everyone is just constantly trying to bait each other and play retarded flame and culture wars all the time while forcing people to pick a side by making any real communication on the internet impossible.
They have succeeded so much that the majority of normal people left the internet, hence why all you see is bait and trolling now.

You literally have to wait until every major social platforms, and especially their investors and companies that advertise on there, are faced with the fact that all their traffic is fake, astroturfed and botted.

>>8034228
Bro there are going to be so many scams that art market is really going to be compromised

>>8034228
>posts fake AI
>posts AI
At this point I dont get what these kinds of posts are even for? Are these shills trying to show how powerful their slop machine or are they really just pulling the "See?! See?! You guys cant tell the difference anyway we're all dooomed it's joever!!!" behaviour

Like, dude. When something is useful people would actually be dreaming on what they could potentially use / incorporate it with their existing workflow, not this shitty doomtrolling behaviour that's I have no fucking idea why it's so fucking common among AI boosters that dont really even use AI that much compared to /g/ fags with their comfyui spaghetti noodles. Even vibecoding fags aren't as annoying as this.

OpenAI spent another 20 billion and it's to generate another fake real timelapse or whatever the fuck this dishonest thing is.
I'll just call it is what it is. Fucking dishonest faggots. No wonder the general public is turning on them

Based. Seethe and cope luddites.

>>8034437
Lmfao. If you need to watch an AI make a half assed attempt at a painting rather than an actual master to "learn" clearly you never actually wanted to learn to begin with since this is literally a much worse and unclear workflow.

>>8034437
>>8034442
>>8034495
same guy

AI is so gay and stupid

>>8034228
So chat GPT somehow interfaces with CSP now?

>>8034502
they can fake a drawing process video now.

No sense in doing art when AI can do the entire process now.

>>8034455
>if you put in a piece of work that's already been trained on, the AI detection will declare that as AI
Or it might not depending on how it's trained. It can't look into the exact images in its training data. It just generates a decision according to its weights. At the end of the day the model is measuring how closely the sample matches all the shit in its training data. So if you're trying to see if an over rendered anime girl is AI and you have a model trained on civitai, it will just say it's AI. You can get really sophisticated and build a multi model architecture, but at the end of the day there's no real money in it and stuff will still get through if the prompter is generating something uncommon.

>>8034589
I trust AI more than i do people. If AI says it's AI then it's AI. You can't scape from this one chief, you have to pay for you sins.

>>8034593
>implying I have the motivation to draw or even type a prompt into a box

ayo did he just say the d word

>>8034228
>This has literally no use other than to deceive people

I can learn how the AI did it. That's a very convincing use case.

>>8034593
Just try it out and see for yourself jow bad AI is at making such a distinction

>>8034635
Perchance stop copying AI pieces then? It's super accurate.

>>8034228
Here's a weird question: Why would an AI need to zoom in to add details or mark parts of the drawing? Shouldnt be able to understand what to do from the default position? This video might be phoney

>>8034663
Because it's an LLM that's hooked up with some automation tools, one of which is zoom. So when it's reasoning, it will say hmm I need to render the hair, let me focus on that. It will zoom in, do its thing, then take a screencap and iterate that way. It's a text generation bot that talks through the process in the same way a human would so a lot of stuff it does won't make perfect sense.

>>8034673
Is there a source to this video? So far I have only this clip and another where AI is painting an image of a dude in painting

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>>8034673
I call bullshit on that. Why the fuck would someone need an automation tool for zooming in and out.
From official stuff, I only found some paid normies who ask gpt astra to draw them, and the result was either retarded, or inhumanly photorealistic. Also, zero fucking zoom.
I saw nothing like that on vid related. This is either some chink on the video who found the opportunity to ragebait with his gay doodling, or a jeet who clipped that video and used it as a fake example of astra drawing. Unless I get proof that this video is an AI doing work, I dont believe it.

>>8034663
I agree the video might be phoney, but AIs learn from data produced by humans, and so if well trained, you should expect it to mimic human behavior. In truth, the AI does not need to zoom in, nor does it need to use a painting app at all to create a picture. It can simply generate the necessary data for the finished image in a bitmap format and present it to the prompter. If the AI is going through the motions of using a photo manipulation app, then it is for the purpose of theater, and it will be trained and reinforced to act out that theater to the highest degree of fidelity its programmers can achieve.

>>8034719
Look at the left hand, look at the details in the dress, it's obviously ai slop.

>>8034634
Who are you kidding dickshit? You could already do that by watching actual artists do it, you don't and you never will. Your use case is just bullshit you feed yourself and other ai bros.

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>>8034729
>but AIs learn from data produced by humans
True, but when it comes to audio-visual results, they dont walk the same road, because it is waste of time and kike resources. This is why they use a database of endless images. They take all these images and fuse them with their logic into a hallucination that kinda matches the result the user wants.
Perhaps one day AI agents will be able to mimic a digital artist making art in real time as a flex, but as things have it for now, AI pretending to be a real time human artist with its flaws is still somewhat beyond the current capabilities. Its also low priority training because hallucinating images/videos from an existing database is more efficient.
>>8034731
>Muh left hand
How are you so sure that its AI generated? The artist could be either a retard who still doesnt know how to draw fingers, or a troll who made that finger wrong on purpose to fuck with us.
The whole thread stinks like a demoralization thread, so I assume this is a real piece of shit artwork and not AI

>>8034663
>>8034675
It's openAI's new model. It's meant to mimic an actual timelapse, which is why it performs "needless" actions. It's being rolled out so you can expect more and more of these to be popping up in the coming days. Matter of fact, the more get posted, I'll post here.

>>8034740
Either post the source of OP's videoclip, or go back to GPT astra and ask it to AI draw a big throbbing cock for you so that you can play with your clit sized penis, you insufferable faggot

>>8034228
it doesn't help tranime already looks like it all came off of a conveyor. It was already a crutch on its own. Weeb tracers are the same as LLM generation, and just as creative too. Stop jerking it to this jap shit and make your own style.

>>8034742
lol. You think I'm in favor of AI? I'm hyper aware of what AI is doing. What use is there to stick your head in the sand and pretend this isn't happening? When it's something that directly affects us? You absolutely spineless and willfully ignorant retard

>>8034228
https://x.com/taiyaki_sun/status/2096149368193839455

>>8034745
Im not a doomfaggot because I know how empty the mind of the average proompter is.
Ai has been good for at least 2 years or so. Tell me, from all that endless image/video slop, have you seen an actual "AI artist" whose work is not a meme or a tribute to something that exists, like final fantasy for example? Only a youtube guy named gossip goblin has managed to do something actually creative and somewhat original with AI. 1 guy using AI creatively is not really a competition for actual artists.

>>8034750
>automated computer inputs over handdrawn lineart
well, it's an actual step up from gacha prompting i guess

>>8034739
>How are you so sure that its AI generated?
fuck off pajeet, you mother is a cow

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>>8034750
>Trying to add basic color to that basic shitty lineart for 80 minutes worth of maximum token burning
I dont know japanese to tell exactly what they say in the comments, but from what I read, that weeb made that shitty lineart with their hands then asked Astra to paint it. This clip is somewhat disingenuous because it implies AI did the lineart due to the classic finger mistake AI tends to do, and OP is being deliberately vague to make people worry more than they should. Only the zooming, the canvas moving, the color picking and the layer creating are AI.
Digital art is still safu from the AI jew for now.
>>8034763
You are the jeet here bro, dont get confused like you did with the lineart