SEPTEMBER 15WHO ELSE IS HYPED
>>8036808availability in the west?
>>8036808Brunelleschi worked out linear perspective in 1415. That's over 600 years ago.But these books are the ones that'll make it stick for you, definitely. You're not just hoarding books and putting them on display to feel like you're doing something while you avoid drawing.
>>8036808This is it. This book is the one. I refuse boot up my cintiq until I have my hands on this book.
>>8037017I love this meme so much, the idea that all anons are just ONE course/book away from making it.
>>8037017>>8037048Why so bitter, anon?
>>8037017this but unironically
>>8037067fr...
>>8036808this book + hide 3, holy ascension to int
>>8036808I thought you can't use construction with anime?
>>8036808krenz? more like Cringe. I love this, all the permabegs looking for the one true path to drawing, lmao, we all know krenz taught the great masters and all your favorite anime girl artists after all, and any rebuttal not in agreement, i just dont care, im too busy drawing, this is just a quick 5 min break to scroll for a lul while i drink some water
>>8037016>>8037663NGMI>>8037328>>8037017GMI
>>8036808he really needs to hire someone to do the cover cuz...shitanywaywe so back permabegbros...
>>8036808So it will say the same things that western books have said, but because it's a gook saying it, it will help me more?
>>8036808Actually I’m pretty interested and I’ll give it a chance
>>8037731Most art books are HORRENDOUS, don’t pretend otherwise
>>8037017yes
>>8038964nobody tells you to read most art books, stop pretending otherwise
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/752269169/krenz-perspective-by-construction/posts/4796255>Read those two once more and see which one sounds like you. If the first one sounds like you today, the second one is where you'll be later. They're a sequence, not a choice between two products. That's why most people will want the tier with both. Bought separately the two books come to eighty dollars. The pair is seventy-five.>Bought separately the two books come to eighty dollars. The pair is seventy-five.2 books 75 buckerinos both books look AIsh af ngl
>>8038964Exactly, I've been reading perspective made easy. And the info is good but the problem is that the exercises in the book that you are supposed to do show no demonstration of how you're supposed to do it.
>>8039590Exactly, finding an actual demonstration of an artist actually working through a problem, showing you the thought process, showing what sorts of mistakes are likely to pop up and how to fix them, is EXCRUCIATINGLY hard.I still believe that most art teachers never really use the methods they teach and they just wing it with intuition
>>8039846Do you have any suggestions for good resources for perspective in book and video form?
>>8039885No. If I did then maybe I wouldn’t suck as much as I do
>>8039590>the problem is that the exercises in the book that you are supposed to do show no demonstration of how you're supposed to do itCome on, now. The demonstration is the chapter itself. It explains everything you need to know to complete the exercises, which are quite basic. Stop being a howie and use your brain.
>>8039929People THINK it’s simple and basic and they’ve got everything figured out, then they try to do an unfamiliar angle from imagination and they completely fall apart because they never actually understood the techniques and concepts in the first place, so they either just wing it or they just resort to using reference. This is why the books would be better served by more detailed examples
>NEW POST(SCAM(?)https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/752269169/krenz-perspective-by-construction/posts/4796256>Here are the first five tiers, so Tuesday is a decision and not a research project.$40 Book 01 on its own$40 Book 02 on its own$75 Both books, hardcover$80 Both books plus the small pack of real model pose reference photos$100 Everything above plus the Perspective Practice Card set and the lenticular cards>launches in two day>two day>cover looks shit>Horiza Creations(literally who) Collaboratori did a quick research and they are collab with literally whohttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/horiza-creations/medusa-by-jun-chiuHoriza Creations X x . com/HorizaC12917I also checked his Discord, and there's 0 mention about the kickstarterall i could find is this post from his official fb pagewww facebook com/KrenzArtwork/posts/heres-the-first-look-at-the-coverkrenz-artwork-academy-is-preparing-an-official-/1620514466096812/NGL everything I'm seeing points to this being a scam
>>8040549That's kinda genius high IQ scam if whoever organized this gets away with even a $1. But Kikestarter has a team that can sniff fraud without batting an eye. You don't need to do their job for them.
Any anon want to sign up and let us know if they deliver the book? :)Actually even if it is a scam they could just use AI to generate a plausible looking book filled with garbage info. Fucking grim
>>8037016Man, put people on blast!Maybe the new books are.more streamlined and better suited to conn3ct with new artist.
I don't get what's so suspicious about it. Are these replies just envious /ic/ nodraws?
https://www.instagram.com/krenzartwork/It's real he posted about it on his instagram, and from what I see this is his offical instagram and not a fake.I have been using the recorded videos for his perspective course and so far I am learning a lot, so I will support the kickstarter.
>>8040549www facebook com/KrenzArtwork/posts/a-small-change-in-viewpoint-can-make-the-proportions-look-very-differentthat-is-/1631414285006830/he posted about it 5 days ago I assume he didnt post it on his discord as this seems to be aimed at english speakers?
>>8036808How are these books different from other books about perspective?
>>8041030>Books about perspectiveI sleep >Books about perspective (Japan)I :0
OH BOY....https://x.com/Krenz_Artwork/status/2099491210805272828>Thank you for asking! All of the teaching content and artwork in the books are created, edited, and reviewed by our team.>We only use AI-assisted tools at the final proofreading stage to catch things like typos and grammar issues. They’re not used to write the lessons or create any of the artwork.>We only use AI-assisted tools at the final proofreading stage to catch things like typos and grammar issues.ITS JOVER
>>8040715Anons here are getting their hopes up ENTIRELY because the example artwork is done in an anime style. Style has nothing to do with learning perspective. Building objects out of basic solids is taught in every decent perspective book, and there are dozens, possibly hundreds, of videos available for free that demonstrate this process. Anyone who really wants to learn is not in need of another book.My guess (which is a very well educated guess) is that MOST of what anons are hoping to learn from this book, like how to draw cool anime characters from all different angles, isn't actually going to be covered much beyond what you see, i.e. "put them in a box." So it will be yet another showcase of the author's skill more than a teaching tool. I hope I'm wrong, though!
>>8041079>So it will be yet another showcase of the author's skill more than a teaching tool.God that’s such a good way of putting it. That’s why most art books are shit
>>8041048>typos and grammar issuesEvery time someone says that, the book is full of “it’s not x, it’s y” and other blatant AIsms, sometimes with the prompts still in,Also, imagine paying $75 for some esl gibberish the chink didn’t care enough about to run past an English editor when you can pick up proven books on the subject from the library for free
>>8039558Why is the book title cropped off? Why is “by” on the blue one placed over a drawing, with a box with foreign text over it?>not teach how to draw, but also teach how to thinkIt’s not X it’s Y, China
Now that we know this is official by the man himself I ask everyone single one of you to stop, put your pencils down, and wait for this kickstarter to be fully backed and for the book to be ripped and uploaded here. Until then, standby and don't draw anything anymore. It won't yield any results to continue drawing without Krenz's info.
>>8037048If the course is on perspective then yes, they quite literally are.
>mogs your ai "proofread" slop for a fraction of the price
>>8041267Has good simple basic exercises but explains it in a unnecessary complex way without any demonstration shown at all.
>>8041270>unnecessary complexAre you retarded? Serious question.
>>8036808I hope you /ic/ggers can get an english copy of this quickly. I'd like to get it and use it in the way Irshad says to use HTD (I suppose I could just do HTD....)Ik ik, touchy subject, and I don't like DaB either. But I think this is pretty solid advice, at the very least it sounds fun and, I like fun. Ironic where it's coming from LMAO
>>8041017>We're glad to show you the first physical edition of Krenz Perspective by Construction, two hardcover volumes built from eight weeks and 24 hours of live instruction.>built from eight weeks and 24 hours of live instruction.my guess isHoriza Creations probably contacted him to ask if he was interested in making an book version of his perspective course. HC probably told him something like>Hey Krenz, we know you don't speak English. We just need the course recordings, and we'll do all the work converting it into a bookgood luck getting scamthis is all you need >>8019810
>>8041284Holy ad hominemnoun- (logical fallacy) A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim; an attempt to argue against an opponent's idea by discrediting the opponent himself.
Scott Robertson already solved perspective
Anything good for perspective, but JAPAN?Kinda hard to google, google search AI and translate don't seem to to know how to translate "perspective" in art context. It's パース btw. I googled it, and it seems the Japanese just use translated gaijin books.
>>8041518スコット・ロバートソンのHow to Draw
here you go https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-Persp-Course-ad3bf41d23a846bc8077b06fa56b8881
ITS UP´>US$ 7,684 pledged of US$ 10,000 goal
the best tier>vol 1-2>60 bucksand +17 bucksif you want to the A5 Perspective Practice Card set
Just backed. For two (2) hardcover books I honestly think it's extremely well priced. The previews actually look super useful and explanatory, so I'm looking forward to this.
>>8041516>>8041526I'm not trying to draw instruction manuals
>Estimated delivery Nov 2027...............Just take the Marshall perspective course(proko version) lol
>>8040721yes, also>est. delivery Nov 2027
>>8041606Damn. Delivery date is too far there in the future.I am not buying it.
>>8041606What the fuck? A whole year? Fuck that lol
>>8041595You’re not. But I am.
>>8039558Ok, so I finally browsed the kickstarter. While not a scam like the replies above said, there are a lot of strange points. A big one is the 1st book was not even written by krenz, but by one of the teaching assistant in his online school. And it didn't say who wrote the second one. Perhaps because it's unfinished?
>start learning perspective now through countless resources already availableversus>wait over a year for a kickstarted, aislopped translation that isn't even written by the guy it's preachinghmm...
>>8041624>And it didn't say who wrote the second one. Perhaps because it's unfinished?>Author of Volume Twoanon...
https://heyzine.com/flip-book/242d3f51c9.html#page/1Book preview from the kickstarter page
>>8041430nta, but the language in that book really is quite simple, so I fail to see how anyone can claim it to be unnecessarily complex.Overly verbose? sure. Complex? No.
>>8041633looks quite similar to the stuff in his video courseit's alright, demands quite a bit of patience to do properly
>>8041611At last... a firm date on when I'm allowed to start drawing...
>>8041606WHAT? They are not sending pdfs today? LMAOOOOOOOOO
btwhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/752269169/krenz-perspective-by-construction/comments>The course design, the artwork, the teaching content, and the final review of the book are all done by the Krenz Artwork Academy team. None of the art or the teaching content is generated.>The books are still in production and the English isn't final yet. We're bringing in a native English speaker to proofread it, and we'll release preview pages before the books go to print so you can see how the translation turned out and tell us what still needs work.YEPjust backed(vol.1-2) + Perspective Practice Card
>>8041665Until then, I can just… relax…
>>8041665you’re mistaken, that’s my GMI day…
>>8041606you're never going to draw, the course has been available for years, the 2025 one was uploaded months agolazy piece of shit
>>8041606I gotta wait until next year novermber to plug back in my wacom tablet? Fuck this shit, I'm learning AI.
Books can't save you
>>8042014>anon: delivery a year from now?? just take this different perspective course lol>reply: you fucking nodraw FAGGOT!!!!incoherent
FREE BOOKMARKS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!
>There are six bookmarks, each featuring one of the Krenz Artwork Academy teaching assistant characters. A full set now goes into every package at no extra cost.NCE
WOAOW I hec*ing LOVE bookmarks!Are you hyped, fellow customers??
>>8036808We need Tier 7 right now only for 200$ sarrrr
>US$ 50,074 pledged of US$ 10,000 goal>26 days to goyep we are getting that sweet UV cover + 16 perspective cards >:)
>ctrl+f file.png>12 resultsstill not buying your chinkshit
>>8042067They literally can
Man........people are actually funding this shit. They are not economically strained hard enough. The elites were right; they have every right to squeeze us dry of every penny.
>>8042748They could be just arab princes, anon. Normal people have no money for random shit like this.
i love how insane /ic/ is why are all these responses so crazy
>>8042780There are only like 5 of us. 4 posting from a mental asylum. 1 from prison. All SEAnigger.
>>8036808this thread is pathetic, what a cope. surely you will be able to truly draw once this chinese book comes out and you finally get your hands on it, not that you would read it anyway but just having it and consuming or collecting more resources means you'll really do it this time. This is the one, the actual correct path to learning to draw.
>>8042802Why did you roast me so brutally like this
NEKOJIRABROS WE ARE SO BACK https://x.com/Nekojira/status/2100571173734293855Just backed.Tier 6 :)
>>8042833>taiwanese master>SEAnigger malay disciple>all larping as japanese
As if even 1 (one) of you fuckers draws anything with even basic level perspective. You draw a whores head floating in a white void, or in the best case you trace a photo or 3d.The whole thread is such a fucking larp.
>>8042833https://x.com/mikazukihane/status/2100588378324631949>三日月はね>@mikazukihane>Hi, Is there no Japanese language support?LOL, nipbros...
>>8042843>Comic-Con was so much fun! >I'm thrilled that I got to chat a bit with my admired @Nekojira-senseiProbably zainichior SEAnigger living in Japan and larping as Japanese in twitter.
*LARPs as a person who backed an art book on kickstarter*
>>8042845>Comic-Con was so much fun!comiket pls
>>8042835when has krenz ever larped as Japanese?
>>8042839>As if even 1 (one) of you fuckers draws anything with even basic level perspectiveduh perspective is being released Nov 2027
WGMI (´っ･ω･)っ
>>8042835Yoneyama Mai is half taiwanese lilbrotaiwan/japan >>>>>>>>> chinks/west/sea
>>8042780its just one bored nigger crabbing
>>8042835literally all of SEA was raped by japan so they genetically counts
>>8043297Kinda explains why they can draw real animu. Dormant nipponjin atavism jeans.
>a shiny cover was placed as a stretch goal before more contentVery silly
I like krenz and howard hsu's art, so i might get these just for that, but is the content really going to be much different from say, Dongho Kim's perspective book, or the tom fox anatomy/perspective stuff
>>8042839The whole board is not the the newfags you surround yourself with. Many people still draw but choose to lurk for various reasons
>>8044423schroedinger's begsnever decaying since they'll never post a single drawing
why not a .pdf? to avoid pirates?
WE HIT 80KNEXT TIER UNLOCKEDMORE CONTENT FUCK YEAH!!!!
i hope when it’s released and all the /ic/ supporters get sent their copies that we start up a new thread to work through the book together, section by section to make sure we stay motivated enough to stick with it. i’d love to do this, and it feels like it’d be super efficient and effective to boost our skills the more we participate. we could even have redlines and stuff in there, depending
>>8048985Im down
>>8048985>not already studying the 2025 video course with budsngmi
>>8049058wish you worked through it on-site, i’d participate. or is there a discord where you guys are working through it? >you mean the batch of downloads? it was really difficult for me to line it up with the sub scripts since the videos and subs were broken up randomly and i ended up spending most of the time i had just trying to match up pieces of raw text with raw footage without like markers outside of trying to match up visual subjects or numbers. but it’d definitely be motivation enough to push through this speedbump if there were a study group to work alongside. (i ended up diverting into applied perspective deep dives instead.) do you guys happen to be studying the videos in a discord? if so, would you mind if i request an invite of you? if not, don’t worry about it. sounds very cool though.>>8049038me too, for sure
>100k>free postcard>120k free sticker lol
>>8042833So is this book released or not? It says its in kickstarter support but this guy says its now available?
>>8048985>i hope when it’s released and all the /ic/ supporters get sent their copies that we start up a new thread to work through the book together, section by section to make sure we stay motivated enough to stick with it. i’d love to do this, and it feels like it’d be super efficient and effective to boost our skills the more we participate. we could even have redlines and stuff in there, dependingsure sure but you should finish his previous course first1st Zero Basics Line Training Camp>>80238882nd Zero-to-Hero Color Bootcamp>>80198113rd Figure Drawing Practice>>80198124th perspective(book)Krenz Roadmap https://krenzartwork.com/blog/category/7
>>8049692Yeah seems like after the extra content at 80k there isnt going to be much more of worth
>>8049764Cool links thanks
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/752269169/krenz-perspective-by-construction/posts/4815449>Many of you have asked us to open more Personal Critique slots. It took a fair bit of discussion on our side, and we're happy to say we can now open five more Personal Critique slots!>Backers are getting the first notice: three slots open on October 9, and the other two open to everyone on October 12.YOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>8054292Thanks for the bump
>100KLETS FUCKING GOFREE STICKER >:^)
>>8056740omg lol.i was taken aback by the cost of shipping when i saw it, by the way. no complaints though, that’s one thing i’ve never understood about private sellers: how they can do things like sell masses of under 5 dollar items to people with minimal or free shipping and still make a profit, when the price to ship things has always been very large for me, the handful of times i’ve needed to do it. this is what i always imagined shipping prices should be, and didn’t understand why they weren’t, for most private sellers.do any of you know by the way which month we’ll be billed?
>>8056751oct 13and the shipping >After the campaign, Kickstarter’s Pledge Manager will send backers a survey to confirm their delivery addresses and pay their final shipping fees. The survey must be completed before rewards are sent out in November 2027.
>>8056754thank you very much!>you’re very cool in dropping such a quick thorough answer
>>8056740teaching an obsolete skill should be punishable by death
>>8056740Email says postcards ackshually>>8056780>perspective is obsolete
so is this worth a buy?
>>8058457you tell me
>>8058457I gave his perspective video course a tryno one here is autistic or disciplined enough for it
(´っ･ω･)っ
>>8059015that doesn't tell you if he's actually a good teacher
>>8037721I like the design
>>8059021>>8059015i assume he doesn't really go into the theory?was just wondering if its the same content as his perspective video, if it is i might skip it
>>8059443https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/752269169/krenz-perspective-by-construction#h:The-Book-System>PERSPECTIVE by CONSTRUCTION — 01 Fundamentals of Perspective, written by Teacher Howard Hsu. You know the technique, but the drawing falls apart once the object gets complicated. Volume One trains your eye for foreshortening, then gives you the tools to construct space precisely: the doubling method, a coordinate modeling system, the Krenz Cube, and figure modeling. The result is a method for rotating objects and constructed forms in space, which sets up the figure-focused work in Volume Two.>PERSPECTIVE by CONSTRUCTION — 02 From Sketch to Dynamic Angles, written by Teacher Krenz Cushart. You can sketch from a photo. But tilt the view up or down, or invent an angle of your own, and the drawing stops working. Volume Two walks a flat stick figure into a three-dimensional one you can place in space and turn, using orthographic views, photographs of real models, and 3D model study to build the visual experience that high and low angles demand. The reference photographs used throughout are the same ones in the real model pose reference digital pose packs.
EVERYONE is now getting the first 72-hour bonus
>>8059651IM 100% SURE THAT ITS AGAINST KICKSTATER TOSGO AHEAD AND THE REPORT THE PROJECTBE THE HERO
>120K>FREE STICKERLETS GO
who is krenz, and why is everyone in this thread sucking his/her dick? also the name sounds like its pronounced cringe.
A free sticker will surely improve my art
YOOOOOOOOOOO
>>8060279>me when i take the krenzpill
>Over 1500 people scammed Its truly grim
>>8060054He's some Chinese guy that applies autistic rigor to construction and perspective
>>8060375>over 10 billion people are ngmiIts truly grim
>>8060279how do stickers help me learn to draw exactly?
>>8036808His books aren't even finished, if you wanted to make money with art, the trick was to sell courses.
>>8060662anon... >>8041606
>>8060573Have fun waiting a year for a book that will just rehash information that is online for free
>140K>Sport UV cover upgrade on SketchbookLETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
I'm surprised there's enough people who care about this to make over 100k
>focus specifically on understanding and constructing space rather than covering general drawing basics.TIME TO GRIND THE FCK OUT HIS BEGINNER COURSE
