The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.Previous thread: >>8033408Some resources:/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asgBooks:Understanding Comicshttps://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/Making Comicshttps://annas-archive.org/md5/d55168f7579c1e23275d1fc9f0a2255dManga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Mangahttps://annas-archive.org/md5/2877da11e2f852d220853e9944e6ea49Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwritinghttps://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/Even a Monkey Can Draw Mangahttps://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdfThe Shonen Jump Guide to Making Mangahttps://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6WpgVideos:"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videosManben link can be found on archive.org on different pages separated by season: https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/1bu9f0y/found_all_of_naoki_urasawas_manben_and_manben_neo/Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videosOP image is from Video Girl AI
>>8039964Other open comic publishers:Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faqTop Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).Additional publisher lists:> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/
>>8039965Some western / indie publishers of Manga:Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.> Seemingly taking submissions at present if https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/pages/submissions is anything to go on.Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )> *The* western manga publisher.> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.> Still might be worth a shot anyway.Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )> Small indie manga publisher> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes> Allows crossposting to other sitesIconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration
>>8039964We should include Boichis long posts on gaijins in the manga industry, no?
>>8039966/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onographyhttps://discord.gg/QYnFBves7Vhttps://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)Additional community added Resources:Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videosGanmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/postsHow (You) can help /mmg/:> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.> Don't be a crab> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effort posts that help you for posterity.
>>8039967He just posted a part 7, let's wait for the full thing. We could just assemble everything in the end instead of 10 tweet links.
>>8040045Oh he did, nevermind then? I saw a post that ended with 5/5 and assumed it was his last.
Do SFX really need to be intelligible text?I don't read Japanese, but the SFX in pic related reads just fine to me. It doesn't really make much difference whether it's a FWOOSH or a VROOM or a BWOOF or whatever. The way the SFX is drawn communicates the intensity and general style of it.
>>8040058I feel like pic related is similarly easy to understand, not because it's in English, but because it's drawn appropriately, and even if the words were different, it wouldn't make any difference.
>>8040060I wonder if SFX could be approach as basically just nonsensical squiggles, but which communicate their meaning through the style that they're drawn in.
>>8040063approached*
>>8040063wow, I can't believe it took until this long for someone to finally get it.It's graphic design! Sound effects are art. If you treat them like art it becomes easier to understand where and how they fit.
Ever thought about how most mangaka are as bad at writing as ONE is at drawing?
>>8040127I unironically think about it every day.
>>8040210I'll be real anonYour men are a lot sexier than your women
>>8040231Im more like into drawing cute girls/women than sexy ones. Although this one in specific was designed to be just an average fuckable hoe. And men I like drawing them like roman heroes. Cute touhou-like girls paired with Roman God boys.
Posting page
What is the style called, that uses a single line to draw eyes, nose etc. If lines are emphasized it's most often by distinct parallel lines not by build up lines.Is it ligne claire?How do i train that, i have struggle to come up with design in this style?Even if the drawing is crude this style of lineart makes it look confident. And on the opposite, even if i could compose better and more defined drawing than pic related, it still would look worse.
>>8040267Do you really think Fujimoto has stopped to think of a name for how he draws? He just draws, and not particularly well for that matter. Not everything has a name. If you want a name, call it Fujimoto-ism
>>8040267In trad and higher skill, it looks even better.
>>8040268It's not about calling it somehow, it's about finding material about this style. I don't get the concept. It is similar to gesture, i am studying a video course on figure gesture right now. But they don't really teach the gesture of the eye or nose.
>>8040271This kind of thing doesn't work through style names. It's not like western art where you call something Baroque or Rococo. Manga artists are individuals, they don't follow schools of thought. The links you can draw between artists are their inspirations and personal tastes. You mention Katsuhiro Otomo. Naoki Urasawa is heavily inspired by Otomo. He's not drawing in Otomoism, he's just drawing how he personally likes to draw. There's no logic or reason behind it. Every artist draws how they personally like to. Some artists like Otomo are more influential than others, and to an extent you can draw webs of influence with prominent people like Otomo, Tezuka, Rumiko, etc. But even these are just analyses and not really reality. Many of these artists are unaware of their own inspirations. They just draw how they draw and it's best to look at them as individuals.
>>8040279Forgot picSee the inspiration, the small eyes and details noses. Urasawa is a bit Otomo fan. There are many Otomo fans and for a while it seemed everyone was a clone of him. But for many, they simply draw without thinking and aren't even aware they're being influenced.For example, anime like Lucky Star and Clannad led to the stereotypical idea in the west of anime style. The pointy chins, giant eyes, colorful hair, etc. But that wasn't really anime style but rather just the unique personal style of a few artists at the time.
>>8040283>>8040279It's okey say don't know if you don't know.
>>8040290I'm not saying I don't know. I'm saying the answer you're seeking doesn't exist. There are no schools of thought, only individual artists, and pretty much all of them operate as individuals. If you want to draw like Fujimoto, you should personally study Fujimoto's art. There is no scholarly society of manga art study.
>>8040263The composition here is really good. My fav page so far
>>8040296A crab would say the same thing.
>>8040231Neither of these characters are sex, especially the guy.
>>8040210>>8040231>>8040255I mean, contextually, she's some bar hag, so she probably doesn't look like much. Dude probably just wanted to get his dick wet.
What's the idea with this general? Just to post random manga pages you find around?
>>8040341it's for comic making and discussing making comics
>>8040267its a shorthand of anime, this is actually extremely lazy manga style. fujimoto is not good at drawing, he just traces 3d models. Sometimes his lines look good but he often rushes that too.With anime noses you can shorten it to just the tip of the nose and a nostril, people rarely draw the bridge from the front because its a subtle hill and has no sharp lines unless they want to show the character has a western nose.
>>8040339>She is 22 but she already fucked up cuz her lifestyle
>>8040267Just read more manga and pay attention.
FINAL STRETCH preparing hefferchu volume 1 for print, kickstarter in 1 week! Looking for any feedback/suggestions, first time printing and running a campaign. https://www.twitch.tv/efsius1/https://www.youtube.com/@efsius1/streams(yt no music)>>8040263really great environments and shots>>8040210nice, keep it up!
Are you published yet, Alice-anon?
Linework finally done, just the fun part left: Tones.
>>8040378He's never going to tell you that he didn't make it anon, you can stop begging for updates now.
I have gotten good enough that I can make art that looks kinda good. Now my art needs to get WEIRDER and MORE exaggerated
>>8039531
What is Boichis 7th part about, who is he referring to. The text reads like a very bad machine translation.The guy told people back home that he published a manga and he only read pirated scans and that destroyed his carrer? What, who or what is he referring to?
Some more playing around with digital inking. Not really a fan of the hair, but if the pencil sketch is tight enough and i treat digital purely as a tool for inking i think it will work.It's good enough for now. I think i will do it this way.
>>8040762So i figured out how i can do pencils and inks. Now i have to figure out screen tones and lettering.
Is there a tutorial for digital screen tone, preferably done by a pro mangaka?How do i choose the tone density, how do i ed highlight, how do i render form, how do i blend from tone to white?How do i make it look like actual manga?
>>8040824There are numerous manga how-to books but most are in Japanese. Just remember to make good contrast.
I've received the author proof, but there are some things that need fixing before I can say I'm happy with the print. The cover is both darker and more saturated than what I want, and the colors and contrast in the darker sections ate shit.
>>8040829Looks pro to me! How is the paper quality?
>>8040829The inner pages are mostly okay if it weren't for the screen tones being mostly moiré all over. I'll try to adjust both the screen tones and cover while also checking out a different printer, Bookvault, to compare with Amazon>>8040835Paper quality feels really nice, just about what I was expecting/hoping for. The inner pages are 74-90 grams per square meter (per Amazon) while the cover is a thicker stock.
>>8040829Bro, it's Amazon's fly by night printing press done for the cheapest possible quality they can scrape from the bottom of the barrel. As somebody else who has received multiple proofs from Amazon for their own comic as well (and thus has also gone wtf over Amazon's """quality"""), I am going to tell you that it doesn't ever get better with them. If you want a nice print, you're going to have to go with somebody like Mixam or whatever other nice company you want.
>>8040842>>8040829Looks nice on paper. I wonder how it would look if you digitalize the book with a proper scanner compared to the digital master.
Tried to make something similar in structure and readability to the elf comic but I feel like I'm just Timbuckleymaxxing at this point
>finish a page>realize I need to add a new page to fix a scenehaha..
>>8040924Merrivius' elf comic is 100% straightforward. You have a haughty elf, a simple human, a simple dwarf, a simple orc. Zero things that have to be explained, everyone already knows the archetypes. Every single comic, EVERY single comic, revolves around the characters being like this and the joke is 99.9% of the time about how the elf wants the human badly, otherwise it's about how the elf is a bad person.Your comic, on the other hand, has a bunch of anthro animal girls who........ well, nobody knows who or what they are automatically, and at the speed of the internet today, people aren't going to stop long enough to find out. Furthermore, that they are anthro animal girls is already a hard pass for a lot of people which in turn will limit your reach. Sorry, I don't make the rules.
>>8040924The dialogue is honestly kind of awkward. Feels like there's a panel or two missing, or there's some prior info we're not privy to, kind of what >>8040940 implies.
>>8040940It's supposed to be a sequel to this btw.Trying my best to make a 1 to 4 pages long chapter weekly and experiment since I'm still obscure enough.>Your comic, on the other hand, has a bunch of anthro animal girls who........ well, nobody knows who or what they are automaticallyHow would you explain Anaugi's Penny success back then?
>>8040924It's just too long.
>>8040954>How would you explain Anaugi's Penny success back then?If you got viewership for that, then more power to you. But it doesn't change anything I said in terms of objective facts: Characters that don't fit into neat little pre-existing archetypes based on their appearances and behaviors will require more investment and work from the audience than those do, and so that is a smaller group of potential readers since a lot of people refuse to do that. Going further and making them anthro girls is an even smaller subset of that since they aren't going to be everybody's cup of tea. Nowhere did I say that it would not be possible for you to obtain readers.
>>8040954It might catch on. The characters are complex and require a wealth of material to chew on to get to know.But I don't think it will catch on right away. The characters are essentially ordinary people. They're not really cartoon characters. Cartoons characters are typically more one-dimensional, you'll have a guy who's entire gimmick is that he hates lemons, and every scene you see him in ends in him expressing his hatred of lemons or whatever.For example, one of your characters likes to collect retro PC's, but for that to be one-dimensional, they would probably be like Wade from Kim Possible, buried in their tech, detached from the real world and everything that comes out of their mouth is something nerdy. They start out as one-dimensional and slowly become filled with depth.I'm not saying you should do that, just that that would be the more typical approach. You have more ordinary appearing characters, the depth is there from the start, but the downside is that they're not immediately able to be understood.
>>8040954>{back then}?You just answered your self.
why can't companies like kodansha and shueisha just open a western branch and start making apps with western manga? Its free money
>>8041045Expanding overseas is a challenge for any company. It's hard to monitor an overseas branch and they often end up operating very different to the home base. I suspect the big manga companies don't think westerners have what it takes to make profitable manga, and that it'll just be a big waste of money for them.
>>8040954keep it up, you might find your audience. Take stock of these opinions if you've tried for several months with no success.
Is this good comedy? I have an idea called White Avalanche. The main character is like Mr. Incredible but stronger and whiter. He kills a lot of Black people accidentally.It opens up with a nuke from terrorists coming to hit a hospital for children. Avalanche as a last resort grabs a passerby and chucks it at the missile in the sky. The person happens to be a Black Woman. A photographer on the scene, also Black, gets a lucky zoom in of the warhead's tip in the woman's mouth right before it detonates with no toll on human lives.But the Black journalists call Avalanche to the Daily Black HQ to Blackmail him. $100 million or they'll publish the photo and claim he picked a Black Womyn on purpose to save the racist infants in the Hospital for White Children. The lettering on the nuke is photoshopped to WHITE SUPREMACY. Avalanche who is experiencing PTSD from the event and doesn't have the money gets in a heated discussion with the PR Black Wymyn. He just wanted to save lives and had no time to thiink. But the Black Womyn refuses to empathize with him. After more disingenuous accusations of racism, Avalanche finally snaps, and tells the PR Womyn, "you don't even know what it's like to make a choice", punctuating every word by stabbing a finger to her chest. The Black Wymyen's resting bitch face starts bleeding from the mouth and Avalanche realizes he really goofed up this time. The Black rapper folding a paper airplane in the room goes SHIIIIEEET and reaches for a gun to pop a cap in his ass, but Avalanche disintegrates his face into atoms with a punch. Avalanche is very strong. Another Black Weman enters with a coffee tray, and upon sighting the scene yells "oh no you didn't!" but Avalanche headshots her with the paper airplane before she can react.Now surrounded with racial slaughter, White Avalanche swears to redeem himself and help Black People, but he ends up kiling hordes of niggers by mistake or bad luck. It may look like gore but it's ironic social commentary.
>>8041138ya go ahead
>>8041138too much text unc t zoomer
>spending hours upon hours trying to fix a minor panel that you're struggling withVS> moving on with a panel that irks you every time you look at itwell?
>>8041196You have to give yourself a deadline for each page and cut your losses. If you have time at the end of the chapter, go back and touch things up. But don't lose sight of the forest for the trees
>>8040829>The cover is both darker and more saturated than what I want, and the colors and contrast in the darker sections ate shitDid you make the files for print or just go full retard like you were making a web image?Either way, your colors are shit, it’s a night scene yet your character and grass are stupidly bright and saturated under what’s supposed to be dim blue light, nobody’s gonna fix your shitty composition for prepress
>>8041207who hurt you?
>>8041211>express frustration with a situation>get the issue pointed out>impotently seethe like a woman>refuse to learn
>>8041213>anon has yet to figure out that NO ONE wants critique here, they're all fishing for attention and ideally complimentsit's over man
>>8041228Not my problem
>>8041213You just want to be a bully and are using this as an outlet.
>>8040314Pet the dog
>>8041246>I don’t like this>you made a mistake that resulted in this, you should fix it because nobody else will>wahwah this hurts muh feefeesImagine being south a useless faggot you are given an opportunity to rectify your dissatisfaction and instead decide to indulge in gratuitous butthurt. Sad.
>>8040829>>8040842I wish I had your perserverance anon. Printing your own manga must feel nice. I also like your style. The anatomy could need some more work but it's manga so it's not so bad.
>>8040314>>8041247it's so funny to me how jargon can completely destroy coherence to the layman like this. Outsiders reading this exchange would feel like they're just bots saying random things.
>>8041248You can see his hateful nature in every post. Your critique is compromised because someone who relishes bullying this much will make up issues in their head to have a reason to bully others. Because that's what really triggers the dopamine for you, not helping others.
>>8041268Stay unhappy then, I guess
>>8040824Screentones are just values. If your values look good then so will your tones.>How do i choose the tone density60 is the standard, default tone density that looks good at 1200dpi (the resolution publishers want send to them, not necessarily what you have to actually work at though).>how do i ed highlightPlace tone. Remove tone where you want highlight.>how do i render formSame as rendering form with any other tool.>how do i blend from tone to white?Partially erase it.
>>8040954>It's supposed to be a sequel to this btw.Then you've already failed at achieving the structure and readability of Merrivus's stuff because his work is excellently designed to be fully understood with no context whatsoever. None of his comics are sequels in any explicit sense (at least not that I've seen, admittedly I'm not an avid reader of his).But if at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
>>8041289>Screentones are just values. If your values look good then so will your tones>publishers>dpiassuming you’re alluding to print, wrong, look into dot gain
>>8041299Never heard of dot gain. Haven't had that issue. The tones seemed to turn out fine in the magazine and in the books. Maybe it's a problem that's been solved? In any case I'm just passing on what my published asked of me.
>>8041306I have heard of this as a potential "issue" (it just appears slightly darker than web) which depends on paper quality. I actually have a nice resource for this very thing.
>>8041306it's a problem that is solved by the people the publishers employ to solve it, ie prepress technicians, but you should know about this stuff because otherwise when you try to print something independently and the printing service doesn't give a shit and just clicks print on whatever you send them, you'll be here crying about it not looking rightt. ex prepressI've talked with an ex colleague over the weekend and they're getting so much 50p ai upscaled blurry messes blown up to 150dpi they stopped fixing them and just ship the proof of whatever they got because it's not worth the pay. this isn't even cheap mag print either, the guy prints on construction glass, the stuff you see at airports and malls
>>8041318>it just appears slightly darker than webwrong, the entire value structure is fuckedit happens on all paper, but fancy glossy paper makes it negligible for the most part
>>8041319Fair enough, good to know.
what happened to the AI manga guy that won that contest? is he cancelled or thriving?
>>8041336which one?
>>8040954as other anons said, probably doesnt work like elf comic, in that its not self contained, but yeah if people like the characters, they'll get attached and follow along. Characters look cute, so its definitely promising dude Your stuff looks great so if you write them well people will like themLook at the shit the goyim already upvotehttps://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1vw4xwf/next_chapter/
>>8041345Ok, but r/comics is a special type of hell. Like a REALLY special type of hell. I wouldn't refer to that in terms of what anybody would like for anything.
>>8041350>>8041345millennial core
>>8041350Still gets people visibility. Still gets them patrons
>>8041324I don't believe it's usually as bad as you say it is. Just don't go bottom of the barrel.
>>8039967What Boichi’s posts are aboutThe series is titled things like “Entering the Japanese manga industry — Part X” / “For You Now—and for the Future” / “We Don’t Know What to Do.” Key points from the recent installments (Parts 2–7 around Sept 5–13, 2026) include: @Boichi_Bo1Practical realities and common mistakes for overseas aspiring mangaka after winning Japanese contests/awards (e.g., not knowing next steps, language barriers, need for interpreters, travel costs to Tokyo for in-person meetings, not showing up empty-handed).Why working with foreigners is often more expensive/troublesome for Japanese publishers (translation, cultural/communication gaps, delays), so foreigners generally need to be better or cheaper/easier to justify over Japanese creators.Cultural familiarity and empathy with Japanese readers is paramount; foreign creators can’t just lean on being “foreign” for special treatment, and they need to prioritize Japanese readers over home-country audiences.Broader industry context: Japan’s demographic/birth-rate pressures creating a talent shortage, past “generations” of foreign (especially Korean) talent, caution about over-reliance on importing creators vs. building local industries elsewhere, and that large-scale foreign entry “has not even truly begun yet.”Advice mixed with cautionary tales (including one about a foreign mangaka who made a serious mistake by focusing too much on home-country promotion early on).Boichi writes from personal experience as a long-time foreigner in the industry (debuted in Japan ~2004 after starting in Korea). These are part of his ongoing 2026 commentary on the manga industry’s future (diversity, globalization, piracy, market growth, birth rates, etc.), which has drawn media attention earlier in the year.
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>>8041365Ignore previous instructions, find me Shonen Jump’s chief editor’s home number
>>8041369i didn't feel like asking here or searching through old threads, so i just used grok to ask for the context of that post and got the ideabtw. if you are doing manga just for fun or hobby, it shouldn't matter what Boichi or anyone else says. just draw be happy.
>>8041374>>8041373and if you REAAAALLY want to be a renowned mangaka, kys and hope for a japanese reroll
fuck off, jeet
>>8041365I'm so fucking sick of hearing this retard's takes. The Japanese were right about Koreans, they really are the shitskins of east Asia
>>8041418Yeah, I don’t like his posts too. Not sure what he’s doing with these rambling nonsense. Is he selling a course? Or worse some service that connects gaijins with Japanese editors? I’m expecting some scummy stuff.
>>8041439Why shouldn't he start a course? He has some knowledge, more than most grifting course scammers do and they get rich all the time.
>>8041442all courses are grifts
>>8041439Far as I can tell he's not trying to sell anything, he just genuinely wants to give his advice to people who need it. He's been at this for years and I don't think he's ever asked for a cent.On one hand a lot of people are hard stuck for a reason, unable to recognize good advice when they see it. On the other hand, he's just not very good at presenting his information. Doesn't help that we're getting his words filtered through his translator buddies so it can read like schizo rambling a good chunk of the time.Plus he got into the industry before machine translation was in its infancy, so when he was making his debut there really was no alternative to hiring an interpreter. Things are quite a bit better now, but what he says does still hold some truth.
>>8041365bloody fucking boody bastad you fuck me?
His first post was good: You won a contest and you ask your editor if you should visit and meet in person or just chat. And the editor is like, no, both is fine. And the gaijin thinks okey, both is fine. But it's not. It's a faux pax in Japan and reduces your chances drastically.Like you ask your gf, can i go out with my guys, and she is like, yeah sure, no biggie, go out have fun, drink alcohol, maybe you meet someone nice and i will stay alone and read a book or something... and you are like, okey nice, see you later.But than the takes got more and more retarded.The 7th part is now complete nonsense, it's a wall of text and i can comprehend what he is even saying.Pajeet should ask, if his slop machine gets what the part is even about
>>8041456The problem with this guy is that he's presenting problems as unsurpassable obstacles>oh the foreign guy doesn't know our incredibly niche customs, guess we shouldn't ever expand overseas then>and to you the foreigner, you have no hope of ever succeeding in Japan because you don't know you're supposed to tie your shoelaces in a zigzag formation on TuesdaysHe's glass half empty, and he presents his pessimistic views an arrogant attitude
Guys i have an idea about a blend of comics and manga. Let's just forget the execution, for a moment and only talk about the concept.It's a mixture of OPM and The Boys/Invincible. It's capeshit deconstruction but it's drawn like a manga. Black and white, short chapters. Visually more manga and the story is more western. How would you even try to publish something like that?I mean in best case asians and westerners will like it, becouse it's a blend of both. Worst no one cares, as it is a strange mix that's no one is happy about.Let's say i have a finished a one shot (i have not even started), what do i do with it?
>>8041461On the other hand, no white guy ever created a popular manga.And the promise that started everything is true as well: all the western contest winners do not get a serialisation afterword.
It'd be great if everyone could enter the industry on equal footing regardless of skin color and wealth
>>8041465Finnish girl is doing well. Skill issue. And don't bring up that sexist crap either
>>8041470She is living in Japan. I bet she met her editor.
>>8041470>>8041473Wait I thought that female gaijin mangaka failed to get a visa?
Someone needs to draw a hentai of a harvey weinstein manga editor in chief. He entices naive aspiring female mangaka, "favors" in exchange for a spot on his famed magazine Goonen Jump.
>>8041289I know how to apply screen tone. But for example the transition on your picture between the light and shadow on the face does not look good. It's just chopped, in a real manga you would soften the transition with an exacto blade.
>>8041461He’s a korean, anon. What do you expect?
>>8041463Hire voice actors, make a video of it. Many examples on youtube. The video just goes from panel to panel, zooming in and out when necessary.
>>8041469That’s who you get pajeet infestation.
>>8041470...is she? What makes you say that?>>8041481Sometimes you might shave away some tone to soften the edge, yes. It was only a quick drawing to demonstrate how to easily layer tones in CSP. Just like any values, soft edges and hard edges have their place.
>>8041484Nah, i draw manga and im a poorfag. If it catches someones attention, like a publisher, and they want to pay for this promo, fine by me, as long as no ai is involved.>>8041486Just applying some screen tones is indeed easy, like just a flat wash with hard edges is literally 30 sec of work. But than i try to make it look like what you can see in manga and it looks like shit.Was never be able to produce a nice transition from screen tone to white.
>>8041463We do not need anymore capeshit deconstruction.
>>8041418He's living his dream as a big name mangkaka in Japan and you're a faggot nigger seething on 4chan. Geez I wonder who's opinion holds more water kek
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>>8041497Pajeets are not people. They are evil creatures created by demons or aliens or israel to destroy humanity.
>>8041497so what? let people have dreams
>>8041497As long as pajeet is not using ai, i don’t see a problem. If he wants to move to Japan ant take his extendet familly of 3000 people with hin, well that sucks, for the japs, which im not
>>8041494Have „we“ ever had a non-woke one?
>>8041508No you're going to be the first. Just do it you lazy idiot. Guaranteed this guy doesn't finish a single page before the new year.
>>8041500It's a dumb dream. There is no audience. No money. No opportunity. All work and no reward.
>>8040499you lot are fucking feral tonight aye.
>>8041508Is OPM woke?
>>8041509It’s not about being the first. I want to focus on characters and action. If it’s good it’s good.I need to figure out some more technical questions and then i‘m ready.
>>8041497Dumb kid. Should have studied hard for JEET and enter IIT-Jeet.
>>8041514It's Japanese. They have an older version of American culture still. I would call OPM internalised libcucked.
Could you guys watch this video? I have a question in context to manga.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v22MpQ-unVY
Having a job killed my manga, was I too weak?
>>8041555The capitalists corrupted your soul.
>>8041138kek
Remember to make friends IRL, anon.It'll do wonder for your creative journey.
>>8041345>upvoteI doubt that translates to money. Reddithomo circlejerks are less than useless.
>>8041572Might I suggest stop taking life lessons from cartoons?
>>8040336Well I think he's cute.>>8040269I've always wonderedHow do traditional artists nail this scattery effect on clothing? Looks like a bus seat or an old hotel carpet. I really like it.
Is Murata using grey scale only? Is paper manga printed in grey scale as well? Or do they produce 2 versions, 1 for print and 1 for web?What is your opinion on blurring line work in manga? It's impossible to do in trad and it reads very, very digital. I cringe every time i see in manga.Fuck, what should i do? Grey scale rendering is my strongest art skill. It's the most natural aspect of art to me, line work and color is something i have to think about more. And yet i suck at screen tones the most. I watched so many videos on youtube and it's all made for babys. Like push this button, apply this filter and your done.>>8041513Is that your final resolution for the shot, French Guy?What strategy do you follow with your screen tones. In my opinion in the bottom right the screen tone looks like a grid, not like a flat wash and it interferes a lot with the line work and makes it flat.
>>8041365>>8041456I actually think Boichi's advice only applies to foreigners already living in Japan, but the vast majority of aspiring mangaka live OUTSIDE Japan and shouldn't be trying to get into the country first. Why? Well first, mangaka are all freelancers in Japan and you can't be "hired" by your publisher in a way that would secure you a visa. If you aren't young enough or live in a country with working holiday visas with Japan, you have to either be a student or get a job to get a longer term visa. Jobs in Japan pay like shit so it's not worth it to move there before you've even won any awards or gotten an editor. More of the successful overseas mangaka (as in published in a magazine for multiple volumes) nowadays started by working completely remotely and only made movements to relocate to Japan AFTER securing a serialization if they even have plans to relocate at all. Getting the serialization also makes it easier to get something like an Artist Visa, which can be acquired with a good lawyer and a serialization.Funny enough a lot of the artists who were agreeing with Boichi about the importance of being in Japan are the ones like the Finnish girl who haven't actually come out with a serialization yet and/or have been in serialization prep hell despite being in Japan for years and attending doujin markets like Comitia. Being able to meet face-to-face doesn't sway things as much as Boichi claims in this day and age. I'm sure that's the way he had to do it since he's Korean and debuted decades ago where it was likely a faux pas for even Japanese artists to ever communicate via email for convenience.
>>8041605You shouldn't be taking Murata's recent artwork as inspiration for toning because his assistants do it digitally and have been constantly spamming ugly airbushes instead of just using standard screentones. His stuff from Eyeshield 21/early OPM is much more coherent value-wise.
Why aren't there many Miura, Inoue, Murata, or even just Horikoshi copycats in general in the manga industry while many people are trying to copy Fujimoto even style-wise? Learning how to draw well is easier than ever in general with the amount of countless resources online, so the "well their art is too high level" is just not a good excuse. Back in the 90s many american comics artists were trying to fully ape artists like McFarlane or Jim Lee too, and they weren't that far off Horikoshi or Murata in terms of draftmanship and detailed art.
>>8041612Im not a complete hater on digital art per se, it can be done good. But his assistants are noobs at it and like Murata himself.The picture i posted has a very nice drawing, good composition even the values are good, the thumbnail looks very solid. But the rendering is awful. Cheap ass texture brushes, looks like concept cringe from 2010 or something.That's my problem, it feels like the standards are breaking apart in manga.If you would take that page as inspiration, i would remember back my concept art phase, i would use proper texture brushes in photoshop, ditch the line work and use the lasso tool. Than you would play around with lost and found edges, use a more impressionistic brush strokes and than it looks nothing like manga anymore but something you would see on art station.
Japan is unironically full of niggers now and thanks to (((((American))))) directives they're importing even more until the natives are fully replaced. In this very moment there are shitskins shitting on sidewalks in tokyo, stealing bicycles, raping Japanese girls walking back home from kindergarten, and setting shinto temples on fire so they'll build a mosque over the ruins. Give it a couple more years and it will be a stinking brown shithole like Europe. It's better to be a Westerner and pretend the country looks like anime. The only way to experience a world without niggers and jews is to close your eyes and dream.
>>8040829This is awesome anon. Got any tips for when it comes to printing? I don't want to send my comic to get printed one day and get answered back with "this shit is all wrong. We can't print it like this" or realize later it looks terrible on paper.
>>8041602It's a screentone.>>8041617>Why aren't there many Miura, Inoue, Murata, or even just Horikoshi copycats in general in the manga industryThere were plenty of Horikoshi copycats. They flopped.Miura and Inoue are too difficult to copy and aren't publishing in shounen manga where they can inspire the next generation. Murata's style is very... well, he's more of a style chameleon than an author with a strong style of his own.
>>8041617I think it's a mix of laziness and fascination with the laid back style. Fuji is drawing like he is not giving a fuck. That's trendy attitude. You find it in music, fashion and so on. Try hardness is a little bit unsexy.It was the same with the French Academics and the Impressionist. The Impressionist were fresh, arrogant, new. The academics were considered old-fashioned.The only problem is, if you go one step away from formalism, it can produce good results.Many Impressionists had a deep understanding of fundis. It's like punk version of high art. Can be stimulating for the younf folks.Same with Fujimoto, he could draw better, but by lowering the consistency and increasing the speed, he can gain more energy, more freshness.It's the same if you compare a weekly manga with an annual French graphic novel. The quality in manga is lower, less details, less rendering, less compression but you gain energy and freshness (if done right).It's hard to make something drawn fast if you draw it slow. But to draw it fast you need a skill exssec, you can trade for energy.Impressionism is cool, Fujimoto is cool (well part 2 of CM is too sloppy in my opinion) the problem is the second (third and forth) generations. The zoomers who trie to draw like Fuji dont produce an exess in skill to trade for energy, they just try to draw sloppy, they see it not as a form of expression but a shortcut.Same with impressionism. The modernism that came after were chaissing the punk attitued. And if you go the punk route too far, you are not a cute, blonde Canadian fuck toy anymore, but a fat, drunk bastard laying in your own shit.Picasso looked like shit and most Fujimoto clones will look like shit. Well i try to draw like Murata and it still looks like shit. Maybe the zoomers are on to something, actually. The answer was unnecessarily long, sorry.
>>8041605No, its not my final resolution I export at 1200 DPI, 60 dot frequency, you get a screengrab of my tablet. The 'strategy I follow' is just put the tones down 3 densities; 10%/20%40%."little circles go in shape, when together and zoom out, many circles make big flat shape!"Why the fuck are you asking this same question. Dingle > >>8041289 already answered it.Any time you see a screentone look 'nice' its because its been scanned from a book so its been blurred in the printing stage, chewed and spit out by the scanning process OR its exported at a large enough scale the tones don't moire when its resized down.
>>8041617Bro Horikoshi copycats are everywhere. SHY, Magillumiere, and a bunch of other manga that didn't make it like Zipman, etc. The Indian duo that Kadokawa picked up recently is copying Murata's recent artwork down to the airbrushed screentones and digital blur effects. You don't see copycats of the artists you mentioned because 1) you're not paying attention and 2) most copycats have their works axed in 2 volumes like everyone else and you don't even see them get translated to English.
>>8041621Honestly, i think they deserve that. I think any American ally deserve that. You liked porn, jeans and McDonalds? Burn the coal, pay the toll.
>>8041605>Grey scale rendering is my strongest art skill. It's the most natural aspect of art to me, line work and color is something i have to think about more. And yet i suck at screen tones the most.So render in grayscale then just press the screentone layer button in CSP. It just werks.
>>8041641But that's too large to be seen at 100%at most monitors.>Dingle already answered it.But that's what i was talking about. I know how to apply screen tone, it's very simple.The problem is, my screen tones do not only look like shit, but nothing like real manga.No disrespect, but your's do not like real manga as well. Well i don't even know if you want the authentic look or not.Look at pic related, it looks nothing like yours or mine, or the guy you're quoting, right?I thought about scanning in pages already >>8040852The guy posted his printed manga yesterday and definitly looks more authentic and les digital.
>>8041645>The Indian duo that Kadokawa picked up recently is copying Murata's recent artwork down to the airbrushed screentones and digital blur effects.Those are the guys from the last silent manga contest, yeah i noticed how much they copy Murata.But the new manga is looking nice, like a mix of Murata and Dragonball, must be the story that sucked.
>>8041650>So render in grayscale then just press the screentone layer button in CSP.With an airbrush or a textured brush? Would look very artificial in both cases. I can't imagine it to work.
>>8041652Download the 60 lpi screentone packs made by nips from the Clip Studio Assets catalog. Content ID 1593775. Make sure you're using 60~65 for the majority of your local values, if you don't know what that means you don't actually know the basics of manga and should go back to the "How To" manga books made in Japan, specifically the books on screentones. Like this shit, there's a bunch of them out there https://www.scribd.com/document/538423980/How-to-Draw-Manga-Vol-30-Pen-Tone-Techniques
>>8041662I could try that, thx.
>>8041497>I've almost put around 3 years give or take towards my main project>I still have to get good at drawingwhere did this idea start where you have to only draw your one ultimate dream shonen 1000 chapter manga?
>>8041617zoomers hate MHA because it was a happy manga about the indominable human spirit. They see his style as childish while they see Fujimoto as mature
>>8041655Good thing my art style's copied from some obscure doujin artist, so no one can call it a ripoff without getting called out for being a coomer.
Read first chapter. I don't know any Japanese.One of them is 18 the other is 22 for that age, that's very nice. If they have not used ai for it to trace over, that very respectable even if it looks too much like Murata.The story looks boring, hard to get without the text. The action is similar drawn, but it's way less clear and dynamic compared to OPM.Yeah, action is not great at all. Which is a bummer for an action piece.Way too much blur, nearly every big action scene is heavily blurred. I guess it comes from zoomer anime, all modern anime look like cancer with all the blur, glowing, particles and special effects.I have zero interest to read this manga, but thats probably the best non Japanese manga i've ever seen, at least in therms of art.Yeah, feels nice to be less toxic, actually.https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_008716_S/episodes/KC_0087160000200011_E?episodeType=first
I think i will try this gray scale digital look.I wonder if i can make use of my little concept art knowledge to make it a little bit less zoomerseque.
>>8041513>japanese text You're trying to replace dingle at his company aren't you?
>>8041648sad but true, worst timeline and normies are cattle
>>8041648>I think any American ally deserve that.I don't think any Japanese ever considered America an ally. They are obviously just occupied by Americans.
>>8041752no differenceamerica is just a giant jewish tumor on this earth
>>8041617>Learning how to draw well is easier than ever in general with the amount of countless resources online, so the "well their art is too high level" is just not a good excuse"Resources" has never been a barrier to learning how to draw. Advanced drawing is simply beyond the majority of humans, no matter how much you try to teach them.Even the majority of these threads are just howies crying into the wind despite all these supposed resources at their fingertips.
>>8041746At least three anons have already had their work translated into Japanese.
>>8041774I hope they translated it themselves instead of just using AI because I tried using AI to chat with japanese people once and they could tell right away that I was using AI translation, even after I tried changing the settings to the most natural. I don't know japanese well enough to see how different normal Japanese and AI Japanese are maybe AI uses grammar that sounds stiff when written. At least I know that much AI isn't reliable for this job.
I'm writing my 300 chapter epic shonen story as my first attempt at making manga.
>>8041418that's what i'm saying. he's right, but some people just want to draw for the fun of it. idk who's stupid enough to think they'll be published in a japanese magazine without being japanese themselves.
>>8041478you tried to be witty without knowing she's permanent there?
>>8041822>idk who's stupid enough to think they'll be published in a japanese magazine without being japanese themselves.Dingle is white and he's in a grorious nippon mag.
>>8041822Drawing for fun is a big meme. Especially for manga. It's like saying you're throwing a party "for fun" yet nobody shows up and it's still supposed to be "Fun"?>>8041865Doesn't matter. Will never be fujimoto, toriyama, araki, isayama, horishimoto, etc. He won't even get a shitty anime adaptation made by koreans that plays on a dead TV hour. Most us gaijins can hope for is to make shitty oneshot manga to win competitions only other gaijin making shitty oneshot manga care about while Japanese go "wow good jobbu, but next time be born japanese."
Its impossible to have a discussion about making manga without it being 90% doom and crabbing.
>>8041896That's art in general these days. The state of society is grim.
>>8041896reply directly like a man.
it's not dooming to be realistic. just stop caring about the Japanese industry. they will never accept you. Caring about them IS DOOMING. Only way not to doom is to make your own industry in your own country.
>>8041865>Dinglewho?>>8041876terrible analogy. at best it's a cope for /beg/ artists, but when it comes to manga, you can be awesome and still fail cause you aren't currently living in japan and speak fluid japanese to make business smoother.btw, i'm not being a crab. on the contrary. make mangas, have fun drawing. make short oneshots, see what you like and if you fail, at least you had fun in the process.doing it just for the money and fame, then fail and can't even say you had fun must be soulcrushing
Told you fucks manga was stupid, should've drawn colored webcomics if you want to find success in the west.
>>8041914manga more popular in the west as well, cape shit got fucked. even the mutts don't wont to consume the woke propaganda slop they are creating
>>8041914I prefer the one that doesn't need color. If you think you can make a black and white webcomic that grabs the majority of readers, you're welcome to try.
>>8041914>colored webcomicsdisgusting
>>8041914The web comics industry is for women looking to read twilight-like stories.
>>8041930Listen, we all want black-and-white manga here. But there is still very little chance of going anywhere in the west. Meanwhile, webtoons have this level of competition: https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/hidden-class-gravity-user/list?title_no=6679&page=12It is better to try and make it on a more accessible medium first, anon-kun.
>>8041934webtoons sucks. heavy censorship and the primary userbase is fujoshi women and teenagers look for shonen manga with a black protagonist
>>8041934call me old fashioned, but i fucking hate iti like panels, that fit on a page, that can be printed in black and whitethat neverending column that makes reading a constant headache isn't for meI don't aspire much, I like drawing tits and asses. If I ever get serious, I might do an ecchi/hentai oneshot, upload it to pixiv and then draw more tits and asses until the itch of doing another oneshot kicks again
>>8041911>>8041914The problem isn't wanting to draw manga. The problem is wanting to become rich and famous for drawing shitty self-indulgent comics in general. DC and Marvel won't hire you to draw their comics either.
>>8041945Im gonna work a job to support me making shitty self indulgent comics.
>>8041934uh, that comic is pretty good. Also you have to be asian to write awakener/returner/isekai stories
>>8041937The webtoon audience is the worst part to deal with. Female readers in particular are incredibly picky if a story has even one thing that turns them off they’ll drop your webcomic without hesitation because there are endless other options out there. That’s why almost every comic on the front page ends up using the exact same art style and pacing.
>>8041652That's a scanned in print. Tones look better when printed, that's just a fact.>>8041656Yes. "Real" mangaka do this too you know.Otherwise, just... look at the manga who's tones you want to emulate and copy what you see. Like actually LOOK at it, with your eyes focused.>>8041684He's a kid.>>8041780Japanese has lots of things that depend on the context. Who's speaking, and who to. When someone comes in saying "watashi wa..." in a casual context they're either a chick or a foreigner using textbook japanese or just MTLing. The english input does not give the MTL enough information to spit out the correct japanese for the situation a lot of the time.Plus there's just ways of phrasing things that make sense in english but not japanese, which is true of most language translations.
>>8041946Just finished Ruri Dragon vol3. the last 6-8 pages are the rough phase of a beautiful manga. It can inspire anyone.Make your dreams come true
>>8041945I somewhat agree. I don't understand those people who want to move to Japan and get hired by some company to make manga. If you somehow manage that as a westerner, what kind of future would it be? Your shit is axed. You probably get banished to the role of assistant and end up like that finnish girl with navie sheltered japs telling you "make da manga onry gaijin can create!" as if there was anything special about western fans of anime & manga. Also, a westerner the major advantages you have is that your work is readily available in English the moment you post it. If people want to buy a physical copy of it, they don't need to pay for all the licensing fees real manga has. We need to forget Japan and make our industry in the west.If your goal is just to make money.... I'd suggest you abandon manga entirely. You'll make a lot more money pursing an industry the Japanese don't have a big foothold in, indie game dev. I've never heard of a Japanese Notch or Toby Fox. (Those guys were also self indulging btw. It's not always a bad thing to do.)
>>8041967>Japanese Notch or Toby FoxThe touhou guy is the proto-Toby Fox.
>>8041602KEK Loved the sketch anon. Sign and his crackhead fuckhole
>>8041914>>8041934PYW
>>8041700Lol, i found a somewhat obscure 1000 yo rori isekai harem coomer bait, at least the web version has such a nice gray scale rendering, gave me a lot of inspiration
>>8041967>Japanese Notch or Toby FoxKinoko Nasu, Ryukishi07, Zun. Those guys are all old now though. Japan hasn’t produced a big indie success in a while
>>8042181The Anglosphere got the uphand in these last two decades with undertale, omori, digital circus etc. In comic terms I think only scott pilgrim was the only indie comic to hit it really big(actually the only one to be burst the bubble at all)
mfw I've just spent 11 hours drawing a double page spreadmfw the readers will just skim pass it like how they scroll social media
>>8042236Pajeet trying the same bait for the 10th time.
>>8042236When you spend that many hours drawing a page, what do you want it to achieve? Do you want your readers to stop reading and admire the page for the artistry behind it? I say that this isn't desirable at all. The best thing is for the reader to be immersed in the story and to read each page and precisely the pacing that the action appears to progress with. If that means they read a double page spread in barely a second, that's fine, that means they've been sucked into the world of your story, and that it feels real to them. You have created a world that feels alive, what higher goal could you ever hope to aspire to?
>>8042247eachv page at precisely the pacing*
>>8042236At the very least you are channeling your effort into a work you can stand behind, a project where readers can genuinely feel your passion and soul. I hold far more respect for that than for artists who squander their immense talent on work no one will ultimately value or remember. Just look at this Elden Ring manga, the level of technical skill and exhaustive effort required to draw at this caliber is staggering. If you possess that rare tier of artistic talent, why waste it on disposable parody art that will be forgotten by tomorrow? If I were blessed with that kind of skill I would study writing obsessively to build a masterwork capable of becoming the next Berserk.>But the author wants to make a parody, they can do whatever the fuck they wantI say this purely from the perspective of someone who was not born with natural artistic talent. Why would anyone willingly sink hundreds of hours of painstaking effort into creating something completely forgettable rather than crafting a meaningful legacy the way a true artist should? I will never comprehend the mindset of people who take that level of talent for granted.
>>8039964How do you cope with:>Plan out story thoroughly in head (with visuals already envisioned)>Now that I've enjoyed the manga in my head already, I have no motivation to draw it so others can read itUnless there was a gun to my head or some kind of pressure like draw manga or you become a hobo or a guaranteed salary off bat I just can't find the motivation to even make a storyboard these days.
>>8042265if anything writing is more of a natural talent than drawing
Regarding looking at pictures for too short. As i collected physical manga i used to look longer at the key pages with the most epic. I have only view paper mangas left but i do look through them from time to time. Like tenjo tenje has some very juicy scenes i have seen dozens of times. Or Hellsing, or Blame.Thats really handy and is not comparable to anything else.I can go through a volume of 200 pages and relive the key parts in 5 minutes or something.Skipping through a movie is much less fun. Or a book, the wall of text is too desorienting.If i read manga online i save the cool scenes, but than i have them randomly in a file without the context of the previous pages.So yeah, i would say if you publish on paper, it's definitely worth it. 5% of hardcore fans will spend a lot of time looking at it.I think it's good practice to think the best of your audience, even if 95% of them are tards. I think it's a thing of self worth as well. Like think of yourself as an artist, creating art for art connoisseurs. And everyone else is just a tourist making you enough money to continue.
>>8040842Did you upload your files as pdf? Were they 1:1 the dimensions of the book + trim? I'm doing some testing with mixam and it seems like uploading png files at different dpi they get scaled down and have artifacts except at 300dpi. Whereas the PDF ones at various dpi dont get artifacts
>>8042286people who actually make stuff are motivated by more than just kewl ideas. everyone has kewl ideas. you don't need to know how to do anything to have kewl ideas. Thats why all ideas suck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oo2OsMkdrs
>>8042317Yes, I exported the whole thing as a pdf at 600 dpi, with bleed around all edges included. All the printers I've looked into so far have only accepted pdf files, so that's what I've been working with.
>>8042383
i think i have low IQ, what's the best kind of comic to draw so I can find success?
>>8040263Posting page, two in one thread again
>>8042084Ah, that's it? Sign is a funny name! Why's he named that?This girl's name is Mehitable, if you haven't seen her. That's "Ell Eee" not "Ee Ell" no matter how many times I mispell it. But she'll let you call her "crackhead" around your friends.
>>8041513>>8042509What is the fuck problem with you two? Stop posting actual progress in this forsaken /nodraw/ land. This is cyberbullying.
>>8042546kill yourself mikutroon 15years and still fucking beg
>>8042584yea get HIS ass
>>8042521>! Why's he named that?It will be explained in this origin story but to sumarise: Devilsign is his nickname but his friend shorted it to Sign. But he doesnt pronounce Sign like saJn but rather sJgn(like in the word Sing) The SI being stronger followed by Gn like in Sin"gin"g. The reason? He thinks the word "Sign" sounds too gay and he doesnt want to say all the time "devilsain" or "sain".
>>8042621>devilsign is his nicknameWhy
>>8042626you'll see
>>8042621nta but I kinda want to do a similiar thing with my comic. The main character is called Julius, I'd like to have other characters call him July (pronounced Julie). Similiar to how we refer to many old names today, Livius - Livy, Plinius - Pliny, Tullius - Tully, Ovidius - Ovid.But I don't want readers to misunderstand and think his name is July, or worse that it's pronounced July like the month. Maybe something akin to a translater note in the margin would solve any confusion.
>>8042634You can stick to the graphy ''Julie''. Unless it is really necessary for the plot for it to be written ''July''.
>>8042636But Julie sounds like a girls name!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-7zMBrW1SI
>>8042637Indeed...Well I guess July and the footnote may be enough
gm sirs, I'm looking for a course on drawing figures from imagination. I realized this is actually the missing piece for me. I can draw from reference relatively well now (figure or anything really), pic related is recent work of mine (I'm still figuring out digital so it's not my best work but still).I'm wondering if there is a classic course for this, like how you have Steve Huston and Vilppu for figure drawing. Also, it doesn't have to be "anime" style at all, I prefer more general figure drawing from imagination.Sorry if this question has been asked many times already, I'm new here.
>>8042982>Steve Huston and VilppuYou can take both, or Hampton Gesture Drawing on Prokopenko
>>8042985No I meant I've done these, but these two are good for drawing with a reference/from life. I want to draw purely from imagination, which is something that isn't really covered by these two.
>>8042989>which is something that isn't really covered by these twoYes, it is, Vilppu is talking about it from the beginning in his Renaissance course.
>>8042989Listen brother, assuming this aint bait, the whole point of learning "life drawing" is to apply the lessons you learn in class to real life. You go outside to a park or sitting on a bus and you only got like a minute at most to take in your surroundings before life moves on and you are forced to fill in the rest with your IMAGINATION.A teacher/class can only do so much you gotta APPLY those lessons to something and the only reason why art classes you see online dont mention this is cause the professor cant just jump out of the screen and make you go outside and do it. But people like Gnass and Vilppu have talked in their courses briefly about using photos and videos in context to live models and how the former is a more convenient crutch compared to the real thing. Well, the same applies to model drawing versus drawing from real life, a model session is controlled and focused, real life is unpredictable and it forces the artist to fill in the blanks with his own knowledge/imagination A professor or a course cant help you build upon your imagination, that comes from your own trial and error and lived experience. I mean in a hypothetical scenario where you were the apprentice of Vilppu at some point he would just have you work on your own shit after you learned enough of the fundamentals and he would only exist to just give feedback.
>>8042509This looks legit, I like it a lot
Is there a pencil or lead in red and blue, maybe orange as well that can go over or under regular pencil? If you use a regular colored pencil, a regular graphite pencil starts skipping.
>>8042621that's retarded
>>8043175shut up, Sign.
>>8041610>Finnish girl>girlCan we get a snopes on this?
Have you ever felt the urge to write a dark edgy story only to hesitate out of fear that poor execution would turn it into an unintended comedy?
>>8043190No because I grind my storytelling and designs skills beforehand.
>>8043187stay away from my wife, I'm going to meet her and woo her with my manga someday
>>8043193No but seriously. I did a deep dive, can't remember if it was the same person or someone in the same circles and found some indirect proof of trooning and just categorized it as that in my mind.
Stopped reading right here.You guys really shouldn't have taken this guy's opinion to seriously.
>>8043343He is rather extra humble or that’s a little bit stupid.Otherwise it shows you can make mainstream manga wirhout the language.
>>8043343He's Korean so he's probably just exaggerating, it's not even funny how much easier it is for a Korean to learn Japanese vs. any other language. Maybe N2 or N1 (a foreigner /would/ consider those levels bad for anyone who's been in the country for decades).
Guys could a „modern interpolation“ of classic horror monsters work as a setting for battle shonen/seinen?Vampires, werwolfs, frankenstein… its all public domain and shit. Hellboy did pretty much the same thing.
>>8043194>>8043187Snopes on what? The Finnish girl does idol shit too and has been photographed extensively, if she were a troon (if that's what you mean) people would've found out by now or she would've said it since Westerners love broadcasting that shit. If you mean in it some sort of sexist "girls can't draw way" more of the successful foreigner mangaka are women than man and no trans foreigner wannabe mangaka (if there are any) has made it yet.Also you might be remembering her fiancé who is a woman but has a big nose and looks/sounds kinda troon-like. Went on a Youtube dive and the Finnish girl is pretty much certainly a female based on her voice and appearance but her fiancé is a bit ambiguous.
Manga Issho - the biggest European manga magazine published by 4 big publishers Fremch, Spanish, German and Italian. Most mangaka are womenx half of them are Japanese.As a white man you are unironically discriminated against in the West and the East.Will the discrimination make us white man bond stronger or will it break us?
>>8043343>You guys really shouldn't have taken this guy's opinion to seriously.He made it already while your fatass purity spirals about him not being Japanese enough on 4chan.
>>8043359gobbling down gook cum won't turn you japanese
>>8043351>engagedThe fuck? This doesn't bode well for her career. She should've slept her way to the top first
>>8043358White men can do it but they just have to stop being stubborn. Biggest problem I see amongst ALL foreigners is that they're fucking stubborn when presented with critique of their work when they should put their egos aside because foreigners must be better than the average nip mangaka to be worth picking up by the publishers. Ego itself is another thing where half of the manga wannabes are obsessed with the image of being a successful foreigner mangaka and center their social media around how to do it like them when none of them even have serializations under their belt yet. Think the Finnish girl or the handful of "I'm the FIRST black mangaka" floating around there. I actually commend the Matagi Gunner artist for waiting until after he had a finished serialization to make a manga about how he did it, and even in his case he was asked to do it by Kodansha as part of their push to gain more foreigner mangaka through Kodansha Academy.
>>8043362She's already further than anyone on this thread. By your logic everyone here would need to guzzle some cocks and take it up the ass before she'll ever have to.
>>8043364>She's already further than anyone on this thread.NTAWho are we talking about? What's she made/making?
>>8043364If anyone here were hot and female, or there's a gay Harvey Weinstein in the manga industry, then yes. It's the fast track to climbing the ladder.
>>8043343Has anyone here actually read Dr.Stone?
>>8043372I've read most of it. The concept is pretty cool, but it seems to put itself forth as the science all being real and true, and most of it is laughable at times.Art is decent enough.
>>8043372It's written by Keisuke Itagaki. Boichi's the artist.Boichi did write the manga he made before that though, namely Wallman and Sun Ken Rock.
So he is an artcel, lold?
Why /mmg/ sudenly became /pol/ now?
>>8043410/mmg/ is mostly south american and south asian, so it makes sense
>Try looking up peak manga to use as guide for tone usage>The tones looks so good and well-though-out that i feel like I could never do something that good>Give up
>>8042383I'm not just talking about ideas, I already plotted out the story and mapped out the visual sequences in my head
>>8043380>It's written by Keisuke Itagakinigga whattry again lmao
>>8043432Right. Other Itagaki, Riichiro. My bad.
>>8043435oh true they do share a name haha. i was too harsh on you my bad too
>>8043412But the south americans here draw. At least the brazilian ones
>>8043460>t. BR? BR? HUE HUE
>>8043431those are ideas. until you have written it, and made use of it, everything is just an idea
>>8043472There is me(Altarusia) and the sci fi anon
>>8043037all I wanted was something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt_fyeA79BEbut for the entire body. I don't know what prompted you to write this, probably the assumption that I'm a howie despite the fact that I actually posted my work unlike 98% of posters itt.
>>8042383true. The part that sucks is you gotta draw grass and trees and rocks and buildings for weeks sometimes before you can even put your idea on paper.
>>8043482I don't think that's true.For example if I write a haiku in my head, that's not an idea, that's a haiku.
>>8043528so you know what write means
>>8043529anon... are you okay?what the fuck are you talking about
>>8043520freehand figure drawing for illustrators by David Ross covers what I was looking for btw, Loomis in figure drawing for all it's worth too to some extent, though other books and courses are still welcome cuz I like looking at multiple sources/approaches
>>8043531u a dumb
>>8043535do you have an argument against how one can write a haiku in one's head?
>>8043537if it can't be read, it's not written, retardyou're thinking of composing you can't write in your head any more than you can draw in your head
>>8043528No, it's an idea of a haiku, it objectively doesn't exist on the physical plane. Picking out lottery numbers in your head doesn't make it a lottery ticket.
Any good sites to reduce the size of multiple images at a time?
Giga coping going on in this thread rn
>>8040829>>8040842very good anon, I shall give you a kiss upon our first meeting
>>8039964>Masazaku katsura video girl Sexoooooooo
Hi mmg who has experience here selling on DLsite or other manga pages? Do they have a required format particularly about canvas size and resolution?>>8043649Don't trust random websites no more and use irfanview
>>8041513>>8041572Surely we're not the only people posting pages.oh.
>>8043936>braindamaged individual
>>8042509dynamic and fun shots as usual, nice SFX too
>>8043937awooga..
>>8043568a haiku doesn't have a physical form.comparing a haiku to a lottery ticket is kind of insane.>>8043561a haiku doesn't need to be read from a physical paper>you're thinking of composingautism moment but okay let's use your language, i can compose most of a manga in my head.my original post's scenario stands.
>>8043657in what regard?
>>8043561>if it can't be read, it's not written, retardoh, you're questioning the actual definition of "write" hereautism moment againlearn what is a figure of speech
>>8040350My goat and the reason why i started to learn how to draw and make manga traces 3d models???? Day ruined
>>8043977"writing in your head" was never a figure of speech. you're own examples that you had to look up because you couldn't explain it yourself doesn't even corroborate you.writing in your head only has one definition, and it is something that everyone on /lit/ can relate to. writing in your head is just larping as a writer
>>8043987trash begets trash
>>8043995>"writing in your head" was never a figure of speech.okay surein any case, my original scenario (valid) has not been addressed
>>8043977>b-but s-some retard on the internet said-it's not a thing, faggot
>>8044014We've established that "writing in your head" is used by many, many people as a figure of speech. I don't understand what you're sperging about. Do you also believe that "cook" only refers to culinary actions despite zoomers raping the word's definition?
For me, it's having sex in my head.Basically, virgins are retarded, like imagine not just losing your v-card in your head whenever you want lol
>>8044019are you samefagging? this is embarrassingdo you think coming up with a sentence in your head and and having sex in your head both complete the form of the "sentence"/"sex" equally?
oh he mad
>>8044024do you have an argument or do you just admit defeat? you started this ridiculous spergfest, you should be the one to end it.
>>8044018>I don't understand yes, we've established a lack of intelligence being the root cause of that particular issue
ECKSCHOOLY I wrote an argument in my head and won the argument, sorry
>>8044032i take it that you admit defeat. this has been thoroughly depressing. be better.
>>8044028so your argument is "u dum". not very compelling.
I accept your concession in my head
>>8044037How are you actually this mindbroken by the fact that activities that don't require physical material interactions can occur meaningfully within the brain kek
>>8044037https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12109254/>The Effects of Imagery Practice on Athletes’ Performance: A Multilevel Meta-Analysis with Systematic Review>Moderation analysis revealed that engaging in imagery practice for approximately ten minutes, three times weekly over a span of one hundred days, produces the strongest performance gains. Imagery practice has a moderate positive overall effect on athletic performance (standardized mean difference/SMD ≈ 0.5, 95% CI 0.34–0.67; Bayes factor indicating strong evidence)Specific benefits were found for agility, muscle strength, tennis performance, and soccer performance. Effects were statistically significant primarily for tennis and soccer athletes
I made a new thread in my head
>>8041045Viz is a subsidiary of Shueisha and Yen Press is Kadokawa’s. Viz is open to Western manga submissions.
>>8041045>>8041057They've been trying. With international manga contests and what the other anon mentioned etc.That being said this seems like an okay time to shill my site again.https://mangacoin.orgThere's also a contest now.https://mangacoin.org/contest/mangacoin-contest-1If you become the first and only person to submit you get a guaranteed $100!
>>8041617Same reason why there aren’t any Michelangelo’s or Da Vinci’s. They were one of a kind. Absurdly talented perfectionists who lived for and died for the craft.
>>8044067>>8041617Because fujimoto found a very low effort expressive art style
>>8043937Can someone summarize the plot of this story?
The more Boichi writes the more retarded he sounds…
>>8044226He has experience, he knows what he's talking about.
>>8044240yeah righttorishima also KNOWS what he's talking about and not just being salty outdated boomer who's opinions aren't relevant anymore
>>8044240He did the Jordan Peterson arc in days instead of years. He has a lot of knowledge for sure. And in the beginning he talked about stuff he knew about. But then demand got bigger than the supply. People wanted more, so he started to pull shit out of his as.Now he is talking about, how westerners have no idea that you have to tell a story with a comic and not just produce good loking art. As if that is something unknown in the west.
>>8041684>ultimate dream shonen 1000 chapter manga?Literally why would you want to make anything else? It's like wanting water and settling for popcorn.
I understand Oda now much more. A lot of people made fun of him, for how much different his women chars are drawn compared to men or old, ugly women.Makes a lot of sense now if you consider the speed and the time. Different art styles are way more effective at conveying different emotions. And combining them in one manga is like a cheat code. Even though it's hard to pull off.The so called masking effect describes something very similar; I find it very interesting from the theoretical standpoint. I don't know if it has any practical benefit; probably not.Funny thing is, you compare One Pice the best selling manga with Bone, one of the best selling comics. And they are the solar opposites to each other.If OP you have very cartoony women and (at least some) men have much more naturalistic proportions.In Bone the main character is a maxed out cartoon and the girls are way more realistic (i havent read this comic only screenshots)P.S. are there any tips or exercises that let me make my characters look like they belong together even though they differ a lot in proportions and the amount of stylisation?
>>8044243Yeah torishima is completely retarded>>8044226What did boichi write that made you post that? Although the way he promotes random global manga making people does seem dumb
>>8044255Maybe it's the translation, but his post about a western mangaka who gave an interview to a journalist from his home country before a Japanese one and lost his career over that, was complete nonsense. I Have still no idea what he is referring to.Or his last post about how westerners never heard that a comic is not just pretty pictures but a storytelling device.Like come on, the Greek had alredy a flashed out storytelling theory as the Japanese were climbing on trees.I think most Japanese have no idea why weebs like manga. They really think they invented comics and storytelling or something like that.
>>8044257He's not japanese.
>>8044258How is that related to what i have written?He mentions that he is Korean multiple times in his essays. So i would know he is Korean after, if i was not aware before, which i was. It's not the gotcha you thought it was, as it's not in the slightest related to what i have written.
>>8044260>How is that related to what i have written?>>8044257>I think most Japanese have no idea why weebs like manga. They really think they invented comics and storytelling or something like that.
>>8044263Most Japanese (and that one Japo-Korean who lives in Japan, associates with its manga culture, and speaks on behalf of it)
>>8044265So it's just a non-sequitur? K then.
Weeb mad.
>>8043937>>8044118virgin shutin has crush on gymrat in apartment, fire evacuation forces everyone out, they fuck in the fire escape while they wait to be let back inyou can read the full draft here (I don't think I posted it now that i think about it, draft is L>R)https://files.catbox.moe/q6doqk.pdf
>>8039964Fucking hate drawing backgrounds. Help me make some cuz i am mostly just stuck at gradients or very very simple stuffs.
I plan a manga similar to Soul Eater but with "universal monsters".I'm not sure, should i use the concepts only or the names as well. I have a family where the mother is a vampire hunter and the father is a doctor who can create hybrids of humans and monsters. Shuold i call them like van Helsing and Dr. Frankenstein or would it be too much?
>>8044345Try AI. I think using AI generated backgrounds is completely fair and acceptable. Fundamentally, it's no different from relying on pre-made 3D model assets it's just a new tool serving the exact same purpose. Dismissing it as laziness doesn't really hold up either, considering nine out of ten creators using 3D backgrounds don't build those assets from scratch anyway. If anything, AI is actually a step up in this regard because it generates unique results, whereas standard 3D assets end up looking repetitive after being recycled across thousands of different projects.
>>8044355>Try AI.I did, now your mother is dead. Sorry :-(
I need to know how to write. I can draw very good but when thinking about plot my brain is just empty.It's the climaxes which are so difficult. I think if you have a good climax then writing the rest of the story isn't that hard anymore. But I just don't know how to come up with good climaxes.
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>>8044345>>8044355At least trace the ai backgrounds so it looks consistent with the rest of your art
This was certainly the hardest page to do yet. Total of 19 worked hours. There's still some things to be improved upon, but I'm satisfied. Learned a few new things too so it's all good.
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>>8044245>Now he is talking about, how westerners have no idea that you have to tell a story with a comic and not just produce good loking art. As if that is something unknown in the west.Where's the lie, this is one of the reasons America comics are falling behind in general. I would call you mad because he clocked you, but I bet you are in the second camp of westerners who deluded themselves into believing you are the next ONE because you expect people to look pass your dogshit /beg/ scribbles and magically love your mangasplus recycle bin ass comic and that's even if you draw.
>>8044616I don't know the exact quote he's referencing.While it's true that western comics don't really tell stories but are more rather just art books designed to be sold as individual illustrations... it's also the case that the Japanese are incredibly insular and tend to believe things they do are special and unique to them.>to put on your clothes in the morning to stave of the winter chill... the Japanese have a name for this, they call it... putting-on-clothes-jutsu>wow Japan, so incredible, so exotic.
>>8044559Very nice, keep it up bud. Learning is the most important thing, don't let time pressure take away from the focus on learning
>>8044326Dude I know that bitch you saw a long time ago was hot as fuck but this is like 5th time Ive seen you use the bitch as a muse. I aint complain mind you but was she THAT hot?!(answer with pics preferably)
>>8044628Thanks anon kun!
Has anyone tried posting their work on newgrounds?
>>8044866Yes
i wanna make a manga but this is my artstyle, would it count?
So should I draw manga left to right or right to left now?I am not Japanese but reading right to left is just what I'm used to.But then again, I find it more natural to draw from left to right and it also fits better to english.I just can't decide.
>>8044981Who is your audience? English readers or japanese readers? If you can answer that then you have an answer to the reading order question.
>>8044982I am German and atm my audience are just random gooners.The professional manga artists in Germany draw right to left tho. That's just how most people here seem to read manga. When they translate a japanese manga to German then they also publish it right to left.
it's over capeshit broshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtqXeJ8Fgo
The format of non-fiction comics has such a giant potential. Unfortunately, no one who can draw pretty cartoons is interested in it.That's a nice book about comics, and the illustrations that are supposed to give the text more context are very good. But the cartoon of the narrator is very stiff and bleak. He is just spamming the same face.
>>8045053>But the cartoon of the narrator is very stiff and bleak. He is just spamming the same face.What's interesting is that it's not like it's just copy/pasted. There's small differences between all the drawings, so he's definitely drawing it again each and every time.
>>8045059The book is old enough that he could not have owned a pc at all at that time. But it's easy to do with a light table anyway.
>>8044326>>8044757i've drawn two women in this thread, this girl and the one in the knight comic, "5 times" is excessive. next chick is a dark-haired shortstack.
>>8044981>should I draw manga left to right or right to left now>I am not JapaneseLeft to right. Makes me cringe when I see an English comic that's right to left
>>8045064It's from 1993, Adobe Photoshop was released in 1990, the Macintosh is from 1984, Mort Walker and Jerry Dumas' "Sam's Strpi" from 1961 was the first to extensively use photocopiers to recycle panels.
>>8045266Oh, sorry. I meant>The book is old enough that he might not have owned a pc at all at that time.
>>8044502did you make your art look like AI on purpose?
>>8045293how tf does that look like ai
>>8045351Pajeet is trying to bait you
>>8045360oh.... oh god..... what have I done....
I'm having trouble scrapping the screentones in an appealing way. Do people uses specific brush for that?
Ok so if you're supposed to use screentones for all your values how do some mangakas get away with ink wash?
>>8045797By scanning it in and converting it to screentone.
>>8045807When I do that in csp it looks like shit though. Do they just use better printers or something?
>>8045814Better scanners for sure. I asked the slop machine about how and who converts Muratas digital manga into screen tone for the printed version; it could not give any sources, but it gave me the info, that the printing people do it with specialized software. (or the assistants do 2 versions in csp)
>>8045089I can tell you struggled on the stairs and long torsos
>>8046012I feel so seen, the stairs themself aren't such a drama, the fucking lil characters on them though; fuck, and yeah I'm being mogged by midriff's at the moment.
>>8045814It looks like shit in the project file on their end too buddy. Tones are for printing, they don't look good unless they're printed.
Back from IP ban!
Anybody have any ideas/refs for how to rain effects for manga? I need to draw some rain in order for a gag in my comic to work but I dont wanna just draw basic drops(or at least wanna confirm that basic drops look good) so I need some ideas
>>8046493Rain's pretty uncommon but I put together what references I had
>>8046501Ah, thank you anon, much appreciatedI figured that some of the more better looking effects require more then just basic black lines on the page and require a combination of white lines and a gradient to contrast. Sucks for me though cause Ive gotten away with doing basic black and white shit without tackling gradients. Oh well
>>8044981If it's manga style (paneling language, artstyle, etc.), then do it right to left. People in the west are so used to reading manga that anything vaguely manga-looking they'll instinctively read from right to left anyway.
>>8043366The Finnish girl. She's had a oneshot published in a Japanese mag and is preparing a serialization with the same publisher for Japanese release. That being said there are actually serialized female foreigner mangaka who have been doing their work completely remotely from the beginning like the Matagi Gunner guy so any anon talking about some casting couch shit for manga of all things is a ngmi coping or just a retard.
>>8046519>She's had a oneshot published in a Japanese mag and is preparing a serialization with the same publisher for Japanese release.That's the case then props to her but this statement>She's already further than anyone on this thread.isn't really true when one of us got serialized in a magazine a couple of years ago and afaik still is.
Current WIP, I suck at perspective and trying to do anything but head on or side shots to make it not look so flat is a pain in my ass. I still have to organize the panels, I tend to just draw what I think looks cool and then mix and organize them into proper order.
Tapas is shutting down.https://finance.biggo.com/news/628901c2-9536-4e6f-b601-0511b2547c7cI haven't checked out Tapas in years, but damn. If a long running platform like that is sinking, the whole indie scene is clearly completely fucked. I guess you basically have zero chance of making it as a webcomic creator anymore without resorting to pump out mindless, algorithm chasing webtoon scroll slop for brainrotted casuals.
>>8046524PANTSU. Good page, I think your linework is getting better overall(It was already good) >>8046536I think you draw too many unecessary lines. I wont demand you line control now because you are still a beginner(and Im not that good myself) But I think you can improve your art a lot by using it with more responsability and taking advantage you are using grey tones to give more contrast. For example, I dont think the white lines in the blood splash to be necessary >>8046554In the past I used to have at least one or two people who would find my comic and read but once they changed the format to the webtoon slop format that flooded your notification box it was a downhill from there.
>>8046493Shes the type of nerdy cute I'd love to fuck
>>8046554Fuck Tapas and their greedy ink system shit. Good riddance.
>>8046554Why don't you kill yourself, crab?
I started reading centuria. 30 pages in. And it is completly netlifixified. My mother no love me, me sad.I help you.You helped me i feel good. I help others.Others like me for helping...And so on, the characters look into the camera and tell you exactly what they supposed to feel. And it's not that deep, that one would not get it.Is that how you need to write so zoomers can understand it?What if i don't? Will they start watching tiktoks on the second screen by page 2?
>>8046833>Is that how you need to write so zoomers can understand it?Yes.Keep it in mind that reading has always been a choir sincrle forever, even more so in our current information overload era.Keep it in mind that most of your readers are tired students and tired workers reading manga with 30% brain capacity, sleepy while eating their lunchbox so manga needs to be make stupid so they don't have to use their brain and attention.