HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DRAW THIS AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE HELP
HELP
your forgetting most shadows. you dont compare angles enough. youre not aware of the negative and whitespace as form, further helping you measure. doing it right takes time. when it clicks it will click and everytime will be exhausting and requires your attention
>>8050604>>8050605Looks so good, that I assume they are AI.
>>8050604>HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DRAW THIS AS ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE HELPUsing any basic measurement or grid system.
>>8050620Blog?
>>8050604just overlay the drawing on top of the photo to see what is off
>>8050628BUT THEN I MAKE MISTAKES IN THE NEXT DRAWING ITS NEVER CLOSE ENOUGH ITS ALWAYS OFF
>>8050640fix what was wrong dummy
>>8050642I DO BUT WHEN I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ITS OFF
>>8050627I don't have a blog, I just post random shit in this board.As to not be a total jerk I just did a quick drawing on picrel to show other grid method as portrayed in this movie:> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8w0n7cSSE0> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO-etgjE1es
>>8050643focus on what was wrong, keep that in mind and try to get it right the next time. you're lucky if it's 1% better each cycle. just trust the process. stop whining so much and draw way more.
>>8050627Peril's blog is on 4chan, he has a general on Oekaki>>8050604>>8050640You shouldn't worry about being 100% accurate, strive for 80-90% accuracy. What you're doing now isn't bad, I like the angles you've drawn for the clavicles, torso, hips and knees, and your proportions for the first drawing is good.You can practice accuracy by any number of methods. You can trace the image, then redraw without tracing, overlay to see your mistakes and repeat the process until you're satisfied.You can use a grid method, measure lines and proportions of the body parts compared to each otherYou can block in shapes, use negative space to see the proportions measured ect>>8050643It's not a one and done deal. This is something that takes years to get good at.
>>8050646YOU FOOL, MOVE THE FRAME DOWN! DOWN!
>>8050648>strive for 80-90% accuracy.But I need close to 100% before I can draw what I want though but I cant even reach 60% IM NGMI
>8050662timewasting attentionwhore
>>8050670bodied that freak
>>8050648when i overlay it, am I supposed to hide the reference, then fix it, or fix it while the reference is underneath?
>>8050643yeahof course.then fix that one. and so on, etc.>>8050620funny, never thought of using an actual ruler. im an old school pencil/brush guy.>>8050627this is why barg has the little cross hair in his study drawings. its indicating techniques.>>8050604just start getting into tone and highlight and shadow, youll get there
>>8050684screw over layslearn to use your eyes
>>8050694I tried that but if I don't overlay, how am I supposed to know whats off if my eyes aren't good enough yet for a basic lay-in?
Screw your eyes. Scoop them out with a spoon. That's when you unlock your mind's eye and level up from beg.
>>8050701its pretty obvious from how you draw hips that youre drawing what you expect to see rather than whats actually there
>>8050648You should follow your own advice because this is like 60% accurate at most. The proportions are horrid.
>>8050701you need to train your eye, thats the why to do it. practice practice.>>8050709this is always a good thing to be aware of - to make sure you are really looking.the point of a "basic lay in" is to work and refne ityou can try being more of a 'render dude' and get a super light pencil, doof around with the layin then hit it dark like they do.
>>8050709how are hips supposed to be drawn?
>upload>see mistakeswhy is it like this??
>>8050715but how do I know if my eye is getting better?
>>8050724I noticed something was off so i changed it, is my eye being trained?
>>8050650That's easy to fix my good friend, allow me..>>8050648>Peril's blog is on 4chan, he has a general on OekakiTHANKS FIGURE ANON!!! That was solid advice actually. I really believe that too, just go for it and let your skill naturally achieve accuracy naturally. You can't force that by artificial means, it has to be a "biological adaptation" to a constant habit.About my thread on /i/, it reached the image and reply limit and got archived a couple months ago. There's a site (archived.moe), that I believe it keeps /i/ threads archived (warosu doesn't keep /i/ archives). I didn't check that, but in case anon >>8050627 wants to check it on archived.moe the /i/ thread number was 824791.>>8050692>funny, never thought of using an actual ruler. im an old school pencil/brush guy.Well, in that drawing the artist is holding a pencil with marks as in a ruler, but the idea is the same, yes.>>8050716I think you did a perfectly fine and beautiful figure sketch here >>8050701 . Opinions are extremely subjective in this board lol
>>8050726dont be a smarty pants
>>8050709Looks accurate to me
>>8050713His is just referencing the pose. You will notice that the /int/s on /beg/ only loosely follow the reference. That's when I started to stop worrying about accuracy.But maybe that's the dark side of art, wanting quick results.>>8050604My attempt, didn't yet overlay. Will draw the other refs you used tonight. Your attempts seem pretty accurate to me, but maybe my standards are too low, maybe I have grown to comfortable... old concept art /ic/ would laugh at every thread we currently have
>>8050739Now as I post it I see some errors... from observer's side right boob needs to be repositioned and resized and also the right leg, that is thinner than the other... which would require the hips to be wider. Middle torso slightly squished. Hm.
>>8050739>Will draw the other refs you used tonight.good luck>>8050727thanks
>>8050604pick up jeff watts figure drawing 1-3. then painting.
>>8050604Ultra-virgin here.Her body looks very tight overall, but her pussy looks like a deflated balloon. Why?
where can i find the pack with her? these are good refernces
>>8050797She hasn't added air to it yet
>wake up >see mistakes50% accurate... its gonna take years....
>>8050662Why do you want 100%? Just trace it if that's your goal
>>8050908If its not accurate enough, your not learning anything
>>8050797It doesn't though. Are you talking about the labia majora? They're like fat pads that cover the vagina. I guess when she's standing a certain way her leg presses against her labia and makes them look crooked.
>>8050912Accuracy is just one of many things you can learn when studying though.
>>8050604>>8050605its fucking impossible to do these without stopping to jerk off. Look at this heavenly angel. Porn nowadays is nothing but tatted up bogged 300lb hags with no class. You will never see a picture of a cute youthful womans pristine naked body in 2026 outside of nude art models. How can you fucking blame me for fapping?!
>>8050915Ive been drawing for nearly 2 years and I havent learned anything because im not accurate though
>>8050917You haven't learned anatomy, line quality, construction, or simplification? You know you can learn these things without perfecting photo copying first right?
>>8050918>anatomynot really for example I cant draw hips>line qualitymost of my lines either dont connect or chicken scratched like a prebeg>constructioncant even draw in 2d, so 3d drawings is out of reach>simplificationsimply wrong yeah
>>8050915>Accuracy is just one of many things you can learn when studying though.LMAO. Spatial awareness is something you are born with and no amount of copegrids or coperulers will teach you how to get better measurements.
>>8050928>you have to be born with accuracyits a wrap, this is impossible
>>8050912If you're striving for 100% accuracy you're not learning anything. You're missing the entire point mate.
>>8050941It doesnt matter anymore, I wasnt born correctly
>>8050604I dont know if this is going to help anon the day after i go side by side like how you do. I like to see some things in terms of straights which will establish a guarding rail for my retarded lv 2 autism brain. Honestly you done a great job just minor adjustments your shoulders seem a little too wide on 2nd image which you can measure off the head like what i did in my image
>>8050977Thank you, looking at yours, I probably should have used more plumb lines however. >>8050941You're right, thinking about it, my goal is to get the angles of of things like the hips for example right so I can draw it again later while changing the proportions to suit my needs. If I can get the perspective of the body right and the proportions close enough then I think its ok but I want to hold myself to a higher standard since i can become a very conceited person who grows an ego easily
>>8051102how do your lines look like this? Photocopier? A line texture effect?
>>8050914She is clearly lacking volume in her pussy.
>>8051155>take shitty photo>extract line filterThats it.
I fucked up the arm graaah
>>8051175This is pretty good anon
>>8050727Sweet, thanks.
>>8051158you just too used to 10yrs olds
>>8050605See plump ass, draws square ass... i think you have problem with your observation skill or you are blind.
>>8051399I was literally born blind and without observation
>>8051402this is better but still look at right hand you are missing finger on left one your finger is short... body your tits look off because you are just looking at the lines instead of volume...
>>8051404oops ill fix that>>8051399heres your not square ass
>5 more years of this until I can draw what I wantWGMI
>>8050805Its from a free pack on artstation, ill look it up later
oh no they made it paid https://www.artstation.com/blogs/grafit/pAy80/free-pack-download-650-art-sketchinghttps://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/l9JmV/650-art-sketching
>>8051445don't be afraid of that ass boi...
>>8051587his ass is better, but this makes it easier to see how narrowly he is drawing things, not quite getting the chunk of it, thus his proportions are off
>>8051595its over
ok i actually think theres no hope of getting working eyeballs without the use of a grid and overlays anytime soon so ill go back to offline now
>>8051604NO.we stuck around this long and want fucking satisfaction. You WILL keep posting and you WILL improve.
>>8050604Whatever improve or specific advice you get from this won't be enough. You might improve with this one but if the foundation doesn't improve it won't mean much.You need to actually train your brain. Hand eye coordination and visual reasoning. That's the element of neuroplasticity and it takes the average person ~8 weeks of consistent effort to meaningfully cement change. You need sleep, hydration, minimal stress, joy, and in person socialisation.And when you come to actually train, do the following with a sample of references:1) Memorise a figure2) Remove the figure from view and draw the figure from memory3) Compare your drawing to the reference and correct. It's actually important that you do corrections.4) Repeat this 2 - 3 times a day, as spread out as you can manage, with time to rest your attention and focus on something else for a while. You can't just cram it all at once.You need a degree of self awareness and well reasoned directed focus. Be aware of how you observe and capture the details mentally and dexterously, predict how your focus or technique will improve and assess if your prediction is true.Who gives a fuck about this one particular reference? You're an artist, you need to get better at being an artist, not Reference X Model Y Image Z.
Also, you need at least two good shits a day and maybe a hamburger.
>>8051642>1) Memorise a figurejust by looking at it? or drawing it first? isnt that impossible if you're inaccurate?
>>8051813If you're asking this question you're not ready for what that anon is suggesting.
>>8051822true, have to get out of the prebeg stage first
>>8051642okay any ideas besides doing all that shit?
>>8051834Draw better.
>>8051834When you draw something there is one important rule that you need to ask yourself... "Would i fap at it or not?" if not then it's worthless and you need to draw differently.
>>8051834ending your life for being a waste of space and time
>>8051630OK OK fine
ok no more spam
oops this was actually the right one
Can a fellow beglet hop in on this? Went to a life drawing session, gonna try to make it a habit to go once a week
Last of the ones worth posting
Actually I kinda liked this one too
>>8050608Wtf you're not supposed to give actual constructive criticism
>>8052112This entire thread has been nothing but constructive criticism wasted on a whiny retard
>>8052100>>8052101>>8052102>>8052103>>8052105Based life-drawing trad chad
>>8050604take the krenzpillthis will teach you basic-int accuracy(48 days)>>>8023678>>KRENZ Zero Basics Line Training Camp / 零基礎線條訓練營>aHR0cHM6Ly8xMTMuZ2lnYWZpbGUubnUvMTIwMi1iZTE3OWMzYWUwMTc1OWIxNzVmMDhlNWNlMTRjYWE3Nw==and this is the adv version aka figures(6 weeks)>>8019812>>KK速寫團練第 0 期 / Krenz - Figure Drawing Practice>aHR0cHM6Ly8xMTEuZ2lnYWZpbGUubnUvMTEyMy0xNjM5OWE5M2E2N2YyNmUxNzQ3OTg2YTQ4M2UwZTQwNA==both have eng subs,homework material and hw demos>picrel(figure drawing)lesson 1 big shapeslesson 2 head(image 2-3)lesson 6 figure
>>8050604Keep drawing, anon.Keep doing this over and over and over and over again. You're creating a puzzle every drawing that relates to the giant puzzle of your art in general.Get a 100 page sketchbook and do these over and over and over.Then follow the anon's advice, by staring at the reference for about a minute or two. Draw from memory as best you can. Then go back and make serious corrections.That'll train your eye and memory. Don't ever look at this type of work as boring. Ask yourself questions every single drawing with every single line you're making.I expect to see your growth.
>>8052141How do you even get this? I have Qbittorrent. But not sure where to add any of that to download.
>>8052150
>>8052141I already both courses, I guess i should finish zero basics then move on to figure drawing, maybe then ill get our of beg regression hell
>>8052153Haha, wow. It was this easy.
>check out krenz hw>first copy looks pretty good>second is abysmally badwhat was I thinking
I think your accuracy is already pretty good and mogs mine.But what I noticed is that those /int/s don't actually go for accuracy. They just use the pose as inspiration for relative positioning. I wonder how well /int/s are at accuracy after they start working faster and more free. Do they still grind accuracy as a warm-up?It's a very pretty girl and I have fun drawing her, but I do struggle to actually match what I see.Pic related are a bit faster sketches than >>8050739
>>8052663>/int/s don't actually go for accuracy.are /int/s just hacks?
>>8050739True, but he's not int. He's only fucking himself over by doing that.>>8052663If you're truly int you can be fairly accurate without trying, but if you can't be accurate when you try to be, you're not int.
>>8050604>>8052024while I am absolutely nowhere near good at accuracy, I have made leaps and bounds at it. The specific exercise I do is basically trying to copy a reference image as best as I can, and then overlaying my sketch on top of the reference. Then I'll try it again, and again, and then I'll move onto another reference image once I get tired of drawing that first one over and over again, overlaying it again and again.I mostly do this with cartoons and anime screenshots, which is why my style is cartoony, but i intend on doing it with realistic art too. My goal is to one day paint portraits of my friends that actually look real
>>8050620>>8050646I just saw this thread and this image randomly and jumped into the archive and damn man, love the style. Hope you make a new thread soon! Is it OK to nick the executioner/artist idea? With a daguerreotype /box camera? I'm thinking up this year's Halloween funnies and last one was "get a-head of others with this One Trick Quick Change corpse-tune" (5$ axe booth).
>>8050604upload the image set already. and go do inktober
>>8053193Heh heh heh Of course you can do whatever you want with it! That's what I like about this site, everything is "free real state" lol. No one is gonna take ownership for any shit posted here. It kinda belongs to everyone and anyone at the same time.Glad to know that the archive works. I wasn't sure about it. Never got to check it. That's perfect.Thanks for the kind words anon!I'll try to do another dump thread on /i/, right now I'm a little bit short of time though.There you have a quickie just for you on picrel, thanks for the inspiration anon!>>8052663Astral anon that's some of your most beautiful figure work yet!!! Totally Saved! Thanks for sharing bud!
>>8050646You are genuinely wasting your talents by only posting on a dead board full of drama chasers and trolls from other boardsMake an account somewhere, anywhere where you can post and organize your shit as to claim it yours.No one is going to steal it because it doesn't appeal to normies and kiddies.
>>8050921>Ive been drawing for nearly 2 yearsThis is so sad. How does this happen? Anyone should be able to become int in two years.
>>8050620So basically shit that you never do and can't do, got it. Have you considered doing some of those studies yourself, Peril?
I'm in the thread too now. I was going to do a memory drawing after the observational study, but I think I've got some work to do before I'm at that point.
>>8051587left looks 1000 times better. Don't be afraid to not be stupid, retard.
i just try to figure out the position of the collarbones and hips and wing it from there. it's okay if it's not that accurate anyway as you'll just be using it as a base to draw animeslop or whatever else anyway
so is this like a pseudo fig general now>>8053134this is great
>>8053326>Anyone should be able to become int in two years.truthnuke
>>8053134>Then I'll try it again, and again,you draw it from scratch over and over again?
>>8053345How long should I spend on each of these? I'm spending 45+ minutes fucking with it to get things in place, but if I go quicker I feel like I'm too far off to have gotten anything out of it
>>8053306Thanks anon! but, that would cause me too much anxiety. I try to avoid stressing, and social media, produces a lot f that. I don't want random stalkers or haters when I don't need that. This place has some pretty fair rules, you can do your autistic shit, but do it here, in this containment schizo ward. No one will judge you in this place, Where should I post my shit? You can't even write, torture, or "grape" in any platform anymore, or even suggest something non-consensual, Pixiv wants you to censor your shit, ultimately I only trust this site, and I don't even need a mail anymore. This is the last free speech corner on the world wide web. It's too comfy here to switch to the social meat grinder out there. That's not for me at least for now>>8053331>Have you considered doing that yourself?Nah.LMAO, but seriously, I obviously did this when I wanted to draw shit for real, now I gone digital and I don't care anymore about any "golden rules of classic art", I want to do my weird shit in my shitty corner and have fun with the weirdos who are into any of the random shit I doodleBUT, one day someone will put you on the spot, and he/she will tell you "can you draw me? like for real, just my face or just me", and you may be in that spot telling yourself: oh fuck, how was this shit again? For real...? And maybe using some measurement method to transfer basic scale and proportion can save your day. I know the pencil thing works obviously, maybe you're not that good at faces but at least you wont draw a down syndrome face, or some Beavis and Butthead shitNow for digital, you have a million ways to transfer scale and proportion. The krenz thing is pretty good actually, that's basically what you end up doing in your head but without the gimmicky "geometric shape frame". You look for reference points, "naked eye" style and build the thing. Krenz method is preferable to do that with much more precision>>8053391OMG! SAVED!>>8053393Appeal god you're the best!
>>8053391absolutely striking way of constructing the figures. You see the weight; such nice balance of hard edge and smooth curves.>>8053300thanks a lot! You always hype us up more than we deserve, Peril.>Astral anonhehe, I can live with that. I also heard succubus anon before, but I haven't drawn any in a long time. The astral part sticks.>>8053331Peril posted less stylized work before>>8053134love the face design>>8052024do you draw like this intuitively, or is this a cleaned-up layer? Right next to the reference you see the inaccuracies, of course, but that's already damn good stuff.
>>8053433>do you draw like this intuitively, or is this a cleaned-up layerits a cleaned up layer, for reference here's my sketch today using different techniques to be a lil bit more accurate
and here's the final lines>>8053134so good, maybe once my accuracy with meticulous measuring is consistent ill try out your method>>8052663>>8053433nice, did you study morpho btw?>>8053391woah nice angles and cross contours>>8053393>so is this like a pseudo fig general nowya ig, also i like your figgies
i want to skip drawing the face its too hard to draw it in an appealing way
>>8053446ngmi
>>8053447i still did it doe
because i can
>>8053417and the next part?
>>8053503Mmmhhh nope, I want to remember her as she was, beautiful and alive. I won't take that picture.Instead I made picrel for funzies, >>8053331 LOOK! See? I tried hee-heeI think the grid system is the best, the Krenz system is useful when you don't have any tools at all to assist you. It's not bullshit of course, but it requires a lot of training to use it right. It can be quite inaccurate if you get tangled in it. You basically build patterns and geometrical reference points connecting the whole figure.>>8053433>hehe, I can live with thatxD Thanks anon! No prob! Succubus anon fits too. Though I was thinking about something related to your planets signature, Something with Sphere, (Spherz?), or Celestial something or Satelite.. (Satelith? Zatelith?) lol Glad to see your art as always!
GOLDEN RULES OF CLASSIC ART
She does remind me a little of my first gf. Badvibed while drawing.Also interesting to see how many figs anons are pumping out in a session. I really need to up my game.>>8053445>nice, did you study morpho btw?I have a few Morpho books. I studied it very little. I mostly copied some Bridgies and did trial and error by daily drawing. I should do some Morpho again. I think the books are good. I also have 2 toshi books in the backlog. They seemed a bit too advanced for me to copy, but I'll try.>>8053533yeah, the planets don't lock me into a single creature type, too>I think the grid system is the best, the Krenz system is useful when you don't have any tools at all to assist youInteresting. When I copy I think a bit in a Krenz-like way. Looking for white spaces and relationships between things (though obviously I don't hit them very well). I find it more natural to do without actually having to draw a grid or lines. If one decided to actually draw the helper lines instead of imagining them, I guess the grid works better. The grid and its relations within are a bit harder to "project" without actually drawing it.>>8053443this just wouldn't work in life drawing unless you set up some doohickey on your drawing board. But as we see here it works quite well if we copy from a photograph.
>>8050797Higher Power Creators way of trolling peopleugly woman could have a 10 body and a hot woman could have 7learn to like the person to truly appreciate, because there really is no 100% perfect in all ways
>>8054088I think you preach to the wrong crowd. There's always some men who consider some woman perfect. The range of taste is vast.Meanwhile women...
>>8054090I actually misread the comment, ignore. No more posting when sleepy!
>>8052025I copied the same pose and I must say it's even more difficult than it looks. Good job.
>>8050604
>>8055309Is this the krenz method?
>>8055309Simon, you should write a book. I'd pay $300 for it unironically
>>8055349This is the classical sight sizing, with emphasis on triangulation rather than measurement grids, in conjunction with gesture and construction.I cannot overstate how important triangulation is in a live-drawing situation compared to griding. Triangulation allows you to keep proportions at any scale.>>8055355These are theories I've shared many times throughout years, stuff people refuse to believe until they see them in an asian book, with step by steps and video recordings. You don't need to pay money to learn art. You need to pay for it in sweat and tears. Just ignore the noise and draw.
>>8055309>>8055362Which asian book taught you this?
>>8055362Triangulation is just picking 2 landmarks and drawing a triangle to find the third point? And you start big then break it up into smaller and smaller shapes?
>>8055368Your mom triangulates on my lap and uses my dick as an anchor point.
>>8055397i see, im adapting to the method
>>8055368>Triangulation is just picking 2 landmarks and drawing a triangle to find the third point? And you start big then break it up into smaller and smaller shapes?NTA but basically, Yeah. Find 2 points that you're more confident in to find the third point and work big to small over and over until you have something you like. Usually you hold out the pencil to estimate the angle in life drawing. It's a tedious process but it gives you better results. It's kind of like sudoku as well if you really think about it.
>>8055469sounds like just doing negative shapeswhy do we need new words for shit all the time?
>>8055472>negative shapesIt's more like a cousin to negative shapes. Lets say you have the top of the fore head and the chin and wanted to find the corner of the eye, you can use trianglation based on those 2 points to find the eye with more precision than relying on something like Reilly rhythms or what ever standard method you use, it really helps for accuracy.It's just an example and I'd use the nose to more accurately measure- but I feel it's more simplistic to explain it with the forehead and chin because it's more of a straight line than nose to tearduct. Enveloping, plumblines and triangulation are all great tools to get accuracy without measuring much
>>8055477fair enough
>>8055368>Triangulation is just picking 2 landmarks and drawing a triangle to find the third point?Not necessarily landmarks, but that is the idea. We use triangulation instead of measurements because scaling measurements is difficult. Angles will give you the right proportions - this is why we have an entire field of math dedicated to this - and that's what you should care about.The most important things to get right first is height and width of the entire subject. Here is what you might do in a life drawing situation, i.e. you have a figure right in front of you, and you have your paper on an easel.1. Draw line 1 on your paper. Some people might call this a plumb line. I just think of it as the first side of the bounding box. This line demarcates the widest point on the left side of the figure, i.e. her right elbow.2. Draw line 2 on your paper. It represents the base of the foot of the figure. The placement on the paper is arbitrary. You decide how big you want your drawing to be.3. Now hold your pencil (or paintbrush, or a stick) up to the figure vertically and move it next to the widest point on the opposite side of your bounding box. In this case, it's her left hip.4. Move your hand down so that the grip you have on your pencil is on that lower right hand corner. Using that point as a fulcrum, tilt the pencil until it is aimed at where the top left corner should be. This gives you the angle of line 3.5. Hold your hand still, turn your body towards the paper, and replicate that line. If you are not using an easel, then ghost the line a few times, then draw it on your paper, relying on muscle memory rather than visual judgement alone.6. Now you can draw lines 4 and 5 and complete the bounding box. From there, you find a few other major lines and points, such as the tilt of the shoulders and where the crotch should be.
>>8055563(continued)7. This gives you a rough idea of where things belong. Instead of doing more abstract measurements, this is where you start employing your gestural and construction knowledge. Fit your figure within the confines of the bounding box and points you've laid out. Start looking at the model as a 3d figure, and use visual cues to inform your construction. For example, we know her face is tilted slightly to camera right because of the relationship of her eyes and nose, and the fact we see more of her right ear than we do of her left. We know her face is tilted up, because of the relationship of the ears to her eyes, and because we see a little bit more of her bottom chin and her nostrils. We know her chest is point to camera right because her left breast overlaps her left arm. We know most of her body weight is on her left leg, because it is locked straight, while her right leg is the balancing leg, because it is bent at the knee.8. Internal logic of your drawing is more important than doing a pixel perfect copy of the photo. Stop overlaying your drawing over the photo. That is an idiotic way to judge the drawing, and even if you get it very close, crabs will claim you merely traced it. Stop doing all of that, and judge the drawing on its own. Some measurements will be off. This is where your knowledge takes over and make things correct in that new context.
>>8055309Pro
>>8051560>>8050805https://ko-fi.com/s/20f3a47f43
>>8050604do women get turned on by posing naked?
>>8056079Mostly yesAttention is sex to them.
>>8055564>This is where your knowledge takes over and make things correct in that new context.but if my copies are constantly too wide, is this a knowledge issue or a measurement issue?
>>8056701the way out is the way in
>>8056712oh its an iq issue its over
>>8050727Cute butt desu
>>8055563Very useful, thanks
>>8050604depends on what you mean by accurate? begs don't understand the diffrence between copying and expressing something.
>>8052025
>>8059103what's with the green?
>>8059196what do you mean? green is a nice color and brings happines. Theres a lot of other "unrealistic" colors aswell... If you greyscale my painting it's value structure is working. Just for shits and giggles mostly. I just wanted to use some colors that's about it.I drew it first, then decided to throw some color and paint on it. Because it looked boring.
>>8059068accurate means accurate, my brother. Time to put down the Vilppu koolaid...
>>8059295I have never studied Vilppu. Accurate sounds like an objective standard, but accurate in relation to what? Proportional accuracy? Opptical accuracy?anatomical accuracy?perceptual accuracy?expressive accuracy?These aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but neither are they the same goal. Your intention determines what accounts as succes, and your succes might not look like a succes to another one.You can look at the same model and draw a diffrent truth, feel and expression.Vilppu would propably draw it another way than Huston or Mattesi. Or academic style...There simply is not one way to produce "accurate" as possible...Often when you draw something how it feels it can feel more "correct" than just plainly copying it exactly. Heres perfect examples when people just traced over. It just feels dead and lifeless. Nothing to state, no opinion, no flavour, no spazaz. No hierarchy of ideas or thoughts. No exaggeration, no poetry. Well thats the obvious diffrence between a beg and a pro...begs want to copy, pros want to interpret.
>>8055564>>8055563interesting approach, I've never seen triangulation done quite like this. Where'd you learn it?
>>8059392>Opptical accuracy?>anatomical accuracy?>perceptual accuracy?What's the difference between those?Well I guess in the case of anatomical accuracy you could draw a completely different person who is sill anatomically correct and for optical you might mean the curvature of a lens...But that's really grasping for anything to try to misunderstand what the person meant.
>>8055563>>8055564Thank you, anon!
>>8060909post the screencap
>>8055563ANON WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE LINES AHHHHHHHHH!!!
>>8060557the irony. I feel like you did your best to nitpick and not understand either...i bet your art sucks balls
>>8061445Yes.Still waiting for an answer, tho.
>>8061503not those anonstruth is, you dont need to know shit about anatomy, or be deep deep in the science of perspective. you just need to look well and hard. some just become render copyists. some learn the transforming power of space and viewpoint. accuracy? in art? LOL. theres a lot of room to play. really depends how you want to do it. Ghibli aint sketching anatomy.>inb4 ghibli anatomy blue lines
>>8061037they start as plumb lines for measuring, but then quickly drift into a personal version of dynamic symmetry and basic proportions and compositional divisions.simple as. doesnt have to make sense. its art.
>>8060557>Opptical accuracy?>>anatomical accuracy?>>perceptual accuracy?Optical accuracy is about reproducing the visual information that reaches your eye.You observe the subject from a particular viewpoint and represent how it actually appears from that position. Perspective and foreshorteningLight, shadow and value relationshipsApparent shapes, proportions and anglesOverlapping forms and spatial relationshipsAnatomical accuracy is about correctly representing the underlying physical structure of a subject.In figure drawing, this means understanding how the skeleton, muscles, joints and proportions work together etcPerceptual accuracy is about capturing the way you experience and understand the subject visually.It goes beyond copying isolated measurements. It concerns the relationships that make something read correctly to a viewer: its character, weight, expression, spatial presence and visual identity.For example, imagine drawing a person's face.You could measure every feature carefully, yet the portrait might fail to capture the person's expression or likeness. Another drawing might exaggerate the nose, compress the eyes or distort the proportions, yet somehow capture the person far more convincingly.That second drawing might have greater perceptual accuracy, even though it has less literal optical or anatomical accuracy...Theres your answer beg...now get back to drawing like a good little boy. And take what you learned and put it to good use...
>>8062323what about vaginal accuracy?solar equinox accuracy?avocado accuracy?detachable penis accuracy?
>>8062337That's something your mom should teach you.
>>8062458is your mom available?i need lessons
>>8050620peril man i love your shit so much. totally unhinged
>>8063115blog?
>>8063119venucake on twt and bsky, haven't posted in a while hope that changes soon.
>>8063115Thank you so much anon! You're too kind!Freaking hot girl! Saved! I really like how you designed her shoulder>pec area!
