I'm having a nervous breakdown. I was checking these VISIONS and ILLUSTRATIONS books to find someone to emulate, Naoki Saito-style. But just found that the reality is harsh, the gap is humongous. How can a human draw like that? The "artists" I admire on social media, youtube, courses, and video game artbooks, are basically just amateurs compared to the stuff in those magazines. Wtf.
>>8054367Send link, i check it out. I have the best taste of all humans and dogs.
>>8054367Nah Akihiko Yoshida clears
>>8054367Rolua (in your cover) is literally on YouTube, though most of those artists are on social media also what are you on about
>>8054396I'm not sure what you're on about. I checked his youtube. It's inactive. A few videos. A few recorded livestreams. Old ones too. And if there are so many great Japanese artists on youtube and others, why do you guys just keep mentioning Hide and the like? Or other grifters that are not even Japanese like oridays. Holy shit, kys. KILL YOURSELF!
>>8054400>oridaysIt's truly fascinating. How is bro STILL unable to fully jpmax even with a Japanese youtuber mentoring him for a while? He still goes full gaijin core in his lineart and shapes. Why is bro STILL low cognitive resolution after 10k+ hours of drawing?I don't even know if he is cringe in his views, don't hate the guy or anything necessarily but how does this happen to someone? I mean I don't mind having him as a Naoki-style counter-model for myself, but it still would be nice to have some more popular westerners (or australian chinese or whatever) doing actual anime.
>>8054465also>Anime Art Accelerator — oridays>$297 - One-time fee
>>8054367OPPA GANGMAN STYLEi like kickdoc , deppa, etc. Anyways get clapped westerners don't have the dedication.
>>8054465oridays is a classic case of when Dunning meets Kruger
>>8054367>The "artists" I admire on social media, youtube, courses, and video game artbooks, are basically just amateurs compared to the stuff in those magazines.You're a tremendous newfag if you believe the artists in there are somehow some kind of godlike breed you don't see anywhere. I just went through all of it and already knew pretty much all of them. Maybe if you stopped being a godamn TikTok zoomer you'd learn to find their socials.
>>8055590KILL YOURSELF !!!
>>8054367these kind of illustrations take days and they go crazy on the effects and layers. There is a process, they aren't just drawing it on one layer or something. Its true digital art. The base sketch is something you can aspire to, all the shadows add so much depth but it can be learned and was likely done on a dedicated session because its so complex.
>>8054367All of this is render slop.
>>8054465>How is bro STILL unable to fully jpmax even with a Japanese youtuber mentoring him for a while? He still goes full gaijin core in his lineart and shapes. Why is bro STILL low cognitive resolution after 10k+ hours of drawing? I am curious about what you are referring to? He seems pretty good.
>>8055688Least obvious ai workflow result, look at her chest lmao
>>8055688He's obviously good for his hours and has real skill, I just mean that he doesn't know about crucial things to make his art look like proper Japanese anime.Overly simplified shapes and lineart in the face is the main thing, and this flaw shows up literally everywhere, but this illustration is actually a better work I was more surprised by in terms of everything else.Just take any great pro illustrator with a similar-ish style and zoom in on the face and see how they do the lines counting every single stroke and movement of the pen and compare. It's genuinely enlightening and what I meant by him being my counter-model. It's unironically like 480p vs 4k in terms of drawing cognitive resolution. Basically bro is grinding, but bro did not go hard on anime settei or illustrator line copies so his shapes and lines are still lacking.
>>8054465>How is bro STILL unable to fully jpmax even with a Japanese youtuber mentoring him for a whileif you mean jpmax is doing good anime art or something, then obviously, by not working enough. The dude is a language teacher; this is a side hustle for him. You would need a full stream of continuous, high-standard jobs to build him into the masters he is learning from
>>8055717He could be much much better than he is right now with his 12k+ or whatever if he laid down the constructoid goyslop he's been pushing and focused on making his art more anime. Even ~300-400 hours of careful dedicated copy grinding would do wonders for him.There are people who have art as a hobby with much less hours invested that understand a lot of the things he is simply missing in his art.
>>8055714i think you've not actually watched many anime or manga at all and that's why you still have this very very strange fixation on some platonic ideal of a "japanese artstyle" that can only be born out of ignorance
>>8055734It's not a platonic ideal, it's a bunch of concrete and tangible things Japanese artists do that make their anime look the way it does. All of this subtletly faux anime just doesn't pick up on, that's why it's called low cognitive resolution art.
>>8054367just pick one and follow the fedora glasses man's instructionsisn't it just master studies for like 3 months?
>>8055757>low cognitive resolutionwhat? you know this is bs used to crab and bait, right?
>>8055774It would do you well to read some Saito.
>>8055776>tfw saito didn't even realize what ripple effects this random page would cause in the westRIP western art community.
>>8055776when you work out you get stronger, of course you could say "i just gained some musculature, my muscular density has increased" but everyone would think you're a pretentious retard.There's a word for when you look at your older drawings and feel embarrassed, its called "getting better". Using a japanese translation of a term that already exists in english without the obsfuscation is really gay. stop slurping japanese balls for once, youre falling for post-ww2 american propaganda about japan you pseudAnyone can draw anime if they want to, its designed so korean children can animate the in-betweens for pennies as quickly as possible
>>8055798>Anyone can draw animeTextbook low cognitive resolution. Let's see your anime.
>>8055802>no u lmao hahado you really believe there's a demographic incapable of drawing anime?
>>8055814There are no demographics incapable of drawing a certain mediumNot even him but pyw, just one anime face. I genuinely think this should be the new test for "anime is so easy ANYONE can do it intuitively" chuds
>>8055884i didnt say anyone can draw animay, i said anyone can draw anime if they want. i dont want to draw anime. you dont get to ask others to post their work if you havent already posted yours
>>8055895If you do not want to draw anime, but are saying it is easy, but cannot muster a 2 minute doodle to even try, you are delusional and you have proven it.Thank you for conceding by not attempting.
>>8055903>PYW PYW PYWyou first
>>8055909You have missed the whole point of what anyone was talking to you about.You are actually exceedingly retarded, I'm sure you don't draw anything at all let alone anime.
>>8055913Dont need your approval, pywfags cannot comprehend engaging in an argument without throwing ad homns. Anyone can learn to play guitar, its an instrument designed to fit your hand and be played, i dont need to post myself playing Capricho arabe blindfolded and intoxicated for this to be true. If youre gonna ask others to post their work do it yourself first, otherwise youre very clearly arguing in bad faith, take the thong outta yo bussy playa
>>8054367First, analyze the reason why you like that thing: you dont like it because the 'art' evokes a certain feeling inside yourself. You like it because of its post processing a.k.a. superficial aspect of its visual. Then, start to understand this matter from higher perspective: this is the difference between illustration and art: llustrator cares about the end result while artist cares about the substance; illustrator cares about the representation while artist cares about communication. The most successful illustrators are those who can draw an eye catching drawing that caught everyones attention in their social media feed, hence why their objective was to make their drawing 'popped out' and as vibrant as possible or in short >>8055640 Therefore, what you need to learn in here is graphic design -anything about graphic design- particularly photoshop itselfas a software, and not painting in general. Additionally, you have to shift your mindset and change your orientation, that instead of thinking 'i have to paint' you have to change it to 'i have to render and photobash everything in order for this illustration to looks good and eyecatching'Youre welcome
>>8055776He never explained what his made up term was, he's just saying people with different tastes are wrong without reasoning why.
>>8055942I guess the low reading comprehension of westerners kind of explains why they're bad at art too.
>>8056151>t. fucking ESL larping as some kind of language expertHave some shame.
>>8055776just don't read too much or you might see his garbage drawings
>>8056239His anime illustrations aren't much better, which says a lot considering how much symbol drawing you can sneak in to artificially make it look "good"
>>8056239>>8056251>t. low-cognitive-resolution niggers
>>8055776>>8056239Damn this book is clearly a notable blank in my library. Most asian instructional texts are dry objectively incorrect takes with a low IQ chinky view of the process (Pic related). But this is well written and correct
>>8056253>t. permabeg tranny
I wonder what sensei's illustrations look like? Here's what he has advertised at his Coloso that he constantly shills.>those fucking feet and kneesHeavy kek. Please buy his course!
>>8056251>symbol drawingIt's impressive how long this buzzword has dominated the western mind without people realizing it's low cognitive resolution babble. Thankfully things are changing due to based Saito.
>>8056254Hopefully his books encourage a general culture of Japanese people writing high quality instructional texts. Would be really nice to see veteran illustrators write something too so we can have their knowledge in book form.
>>8054367Most of the best Japanese illustrators and mangaka graduated from art or design universities or vocational schools, or at least took a couple years of courses before dropping out to start their career. Everyone seems to ignore that part.
>>8056313Shhhh... we just call all of that "talent"
>>8056313>>8056323they are denying the existence of talent again to feel better about themselves, despite being worthless trash "artists"
>>8056313>>8056333See? We just think that everything is because of talent and deny any form of nuance because this is the internet. If it's all talent then it's not our fault that we're bad so stop pointing out things!
>>8056338aka it's talentless anon's fault if he doesnt magically acquire years of instruction, because if you dont succeed you are always at fault, right?pyw btw.
>>8055757>It's not a platonic ideal, it's a bunch of concrete and tangible things/beg/ here, what things?
>>8056482A lot of ink in the pupilsThe endThats all there is to real anime, I made it easy for you because i dont give a fuck and hate it, nta obviously
>>8056151What is there even to comprehend? Can you explain it concisely with your own words? You can't, because it's just vague assumptions. It's the same type of reasoning cultists do to disregard outsiders and remain delusional.
>>8056544>i dont give a fuck and hate it, nta obviouslythen I don't value your opinion on it
>I give you the greatest piece of advice on your anime pinup journey>You give me a snarky replyAnother day being the hero ic needs, but doesnt deserve
>>8056554Not him but you gave no advice and should go back to being the worst artist in the /trad/ thread or something
>>8054367You need to aim lower and work your way up incrementally. You're a beginner trying to emulate the most well-known, skilled, and industry leading artists, of course you're gonna get dogwalked. If you're not prepared for the grind, then prepare for it or give up. This shit takes years of trying, failing, sort of succeeding a lil bit, then way more failing. All the while the artists you look up too keep grinding improving and getting better. If you can't get past this hump, you won't last. glhv
