Are there any resources, channels, courses or whatever that deal with the process of actually producing original paintings, eg market research, deciding on a subject, size, composition, color composition etc?
NOT some theorytard rambling about geometry and made up bullshit, actually producing paintings

>>8058604
Thats a bunch of vague ideas. Theres countless resources online to learn how to paint. I would focus on looking inward and figure out what subjects you want to paint. Thats not really something you can gain from a course or whatever. Its from within

>>8058604
Is tarted doing that once, now i draw comics.

>>8058616
Learn English.

>>8058622
Okay learn how to google you fucking retard. Your question makes no sense. Size composition! Geometry! I can tell you have definitely tried to learn how to paint. Cant wait to see what you produce in the future bro. Fucking retard

>>8058626
>>8058622

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>Thats a bunch of vague ideas. Theres countless resources online to learn how to paint. I would focus on looking inward and figure out what subjects you want to paint. Thats not really something you can gain from a course or whatever. Its from within

>>8058604
? that's retarded, it's not that serious

market research: look at artists you like who are successful in the market and take ideas from them
subject: something popular
size: something manageable so you aren't left with a gigantic painting if it doesn't sell (probably wont if youre asking this question)
composition: depends on the subject

this is what happens when you start the thread with too old feet

>>8058604
noe of your examples deal with producing original paintings and everything you dismsiss has to do with producing original paintings.

just so you know.

>>8059018
pyw

>>8058604
Ignore the nodraws, Loomis talks about some aspects of it in the later books, though mostly in the context of commercial work rather than selling.

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>>8058574

>>8059050
post your clear coherent text that isnt utterly idiotic and asking for marketing reports

>>8059107
kek even you know you suck lololo

>>8059110
i dont
but you likely do
BYE!!

>>8059089
>i'll learn commercial art strategies from a book published not only before AI, but literally approaching 100 years ago
good luck with that. you realize magazines don't want intricate painted covers like norman rockwell right?

this board is so funny sometimes

>jeets think AI competes with painters
Yikes.

>>8059115
Commercial art strategies lol. That's whats holding you back. You simply haven't found the proper instructional to explain commercial art strategies while also telling you which subject to paint. And of course - you wouldnt want to paint like Rockwell! Duh! Bringing up magazines is a curve ball. Probably evidence of the third world shit hole you come from

Is everyone here a brown ESL or what? These “conversations” don’t even make sense

>>8059237

this thread used to be one of the good ones but not anymore, there is this one nodraw german shitposter that doesn't know fuckshit that keeps posting his shit opinions and inane attempts at picking fights that ruin these threads. Pretty certain he's the fag stirring shit in this one too.

>>8059245
No, it's the favela retard

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Hungry ratto

>>8059329
Cute!

>>8059329
Really cool! But the ring on the ear bothers me because a ring would probably slide right off a flimsy rat ear. Maybe it could be on the ground or something

>>8059251
in this instance I'm objectively correct though
keep in mind I've actually sold artwork which almost no one here has.

>>8059348
shut up, retard

>>8059356
I get its the focal point and is supposed to be a crown. Its just very distracting if you've ever handled a rat. That ring is sliding off instantly. Maybe the composition could be changed to have a rat on the ceiling carrying the ring to still have the crown symbol

>>8059360
shut up, retard

>>8059348
>akshully
>>8059360
>akshully-er

All aboard the autist express! Choo-choo!

>>8059348
>>8059360
>I can look past the pack of vampiric maneating rats.
>but the EARRRRRRR!!! IT BREAKS MY IMMERSION!!!

>>8059455

Nta but it is a legit critique. You're just being a bad actor, one of the infuriating fags making these threads shit with incessant contrarianism.

>>8059617
>contrarianism
Look up the definition of words before using them.

>>8059617
shut up, retard

>>8059556
Lol good work but reminds me of Chad. Eyes are creepy yet beautiful

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is brian okay?

>>8059624

You should take your own advice.

>>8059617
your autistic pet peeve is not a legit critique

>>8059348
>>8059360
it's a valid critique

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>>8059360
>this is le distracting, the masks would just slide off a turtle's head, it's le distracting if you've ever handled a turtle, maybe you can have it so the mask is around their neck instead hurr durr btw
This is what you sound like

>>8059691

are you really this retarded or are you just pretending?

>>8059714
It's both, he is a retard and he is shitting up the thread.
>>8059672
Is he still a permabag?

>>8059455
Yes. Even if the ear was abnormally stiff - rats run with a leaping gait. Theres no fucking way that ring is staying there. Theres a million explanations for how a finger could get chopped or bitten off. The location of the ring also pushes a narrative. If its on the ground, below the rats it implies nobility has fallen and chaos has taken over. Or in OPs case, its adorned like a crown which could be pushing the rat himself as a sort of Redwall villain who now has power.

>>8059728
Autists should be kept locked up and beaten.

>>8059733

Your mom should have swallowed.

>>8059735
Yours did last night

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Jesus fucking Christ. I just came back to the thread. All I did was post a picture of my silly rat painting.

Anyway. Here's a wip.

>>8059762
Actually fire doesn't burn like that

>>8059762
The miniature looked like a chiaroscuro of a woman with drapery and i was like "wtf thats one lf the most beautiful paintings i have ever seen", then i was disappointed, but yeah great colors in the trees and fire

The other guy is a faggot, who cares what fire looks like

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>>8059823
>The miniature looked like a chiaroscuro of a woman with drapery
Well, I can try to appease.

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>>8059787
Stop being a retard

>>8059873
There is no chiaro in this, i meant more georgian era drapery

>>8059926
>proofs my point

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>>8059873
Looks like a boss in blasphemous. Great work.

>>8059787
akshually pyw

>>8059938
just imagine a gust of wind. Never been outside?

I like the work

Will we ever get rid of this exceedingly brown ESLer who harrasses everyone?

>>8060015
Post nose.

>>8059672
just watched it. it's pretty basic black pill material, it will be considered settled scientific fact in 10 years. the idea that women ever cared about "personality" is laughable, even ancient greeks and romans wrote about how this is delusional bullshit and laughed at people who jestermaxxed for whores

the white or clear pill which took me 10 years of being giga turbo blackpilled to realize is that since, there's zero chance of the current situation changing in any way, and nothing we do or say will change it in any way, that means there's no point talking about it or wasting time thinking about it anymore
if you can't give a clear reasoning for why x bad situation will change (and in this case, it won't, it will just get worse and worse until polygamy is normalised for chads) then there's no point discussing it or caring in any way.

it's kind of like immigration. the basic fact, even putting aside kalergi plan barbara spectre stuff, is that elites and business owners (medium and large businesses like farmers ranchers construction companies) want to use foreign workers as leverage to drive down domestic workers bargaining rights and be able to replace them if they try to unionize or organize in any way against their business interests.
unless that fact changes (it won't) there's zero point arguing about or trying to discuss the topic, because what happens is when you point this out, people don't want to hear about it and they get angry and try to take away your opportunities

it's the same when you read news stories about train doe whorenell giga stacy snizzat loss, or whatever foid of the week news story or dumb lib shit is being put out for the goyim to slurp up. there's no point discussing how stupid and retarded liberals are because they will just find a way to attack you, and there's also no chance of it changing because the underlying forces aren't political but technological (or "forces of capitalism" )
-favela

ain't reading that, you're mentally ill

>>8060616
it's not for you nigga it's for your mom

>>8060611
what does this have to do with traditional art

>>8060918
Nobody likes the stupid nigger irl so this is the only social outlet he has, but he's too low IQ to realize nobody here cares about him either

>>8060950
You lack a little bit in value and edge control, but otherwise pretty nice.

>>8060970
ur mom likes me

>>8060950
why'd you leave the leaves

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i've been stuck on this painting for almost a month. cant find motivation to finish it.

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a little bit of fish

>>8060611
shut the fuck up

>>8061178
It's not that bad, but i don't see why it would take so long.
>>8061520
The background looks out of place, the fish is cool though.

>>8061544

>The background looks out of place

I tried to create a bokeh effect