I find anything under 27 to be worse than trad desu. 24" is borderline, my ipad is far too small.

>>8073854
Wtf is this cope, my galaxy tab s9 fe is like 10 inches and does me just fine

ruan jia works on a 18000x12000 canvas using what looks like the cintiq 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spvY-qaMjaM

i’ve used an under 10 incher for about a decade as my main touchscreen computer and tablet in one, and moved to a 13-incher for the last decade. they’ve been perfect for me. i used to have a desktop with a giant screen and space for a million windows, but it literally did not change my drawing experience at all. if anything, the paired down copy paper sized devices made drawing lowkey more comfortable, intuitive and distraction free, because i can only have two windows active at once, if i’m pushing it. it’s like the closer i get to pencil on paper the better the experience. i don’t even know what i’d do with a 16 incher. a third window would probably just be some passive half distracting thing that isn’t my raw canvas. just my experience, though. get your device based off of how you intend to use it. good luck

>>8073946
I thought that the screen of the drawing tablet should kinda match the traditional paper size you are using. Like if you mostly draw on an A5 sketchbook then a 16 inch is enough because the canvas size is as big. If you want draw on A4 then you need the 22 inch. Am I getting this wrong?

drawing small trad is awkward enough, even more so drawing smaller and constantly zooming in and out with a tablet

>>8073854
Do these have lag?

>>8073963
you learn to adapt, frank frazetta used mickey mouse watercolor pans to make his famous illustrations

>>8073969
cheap art supplies can be really good sometimes or idiosyncratic in a way you are fond of, while i don't know a single trad artist that prefers a small canvas.

>>8073963
>>8073976
I don't really have the space for big canvas or a big drawing tablet. I think the biggest I can manage is A3. Is that really bad? I honestly just want to focus on A5 and A5.

>>8073976
the point is that small inconveniences are largely not a big deal as you learn to adapt, the question is ultimately whether or not you are willing to pay 5x for a slight gain

>>8073983
like I said >>8073858 it's a matter of if the experience is better than trad. Obviously most people will choose a smaller display not because they wouldn't enjoy the bigger canvas but because of budget.

Also to answer OP the huion's are 90% the same drawing experience as wacom. They have a 24" on sale $500 rn. The slight inconvenience of huion is something I think you'll learn to adapt much easier than trying to do gesture with a display that is smaller than A4. Or just use trad.

>>8073854
Yeah
It doesn't have to be a cintiq though, check out other brands too like huion which are usually cheaper

>>8073854
Professional here:
I used the previous gen16 inch cintiq for a couple years and found it to be perfectly serviceable. And frankly I think it's ideal because it's somewhat portable if you ever want to move it around don't want to be burdened by a big heavy device.
I would recommend tweaking the ui settings so that you can maximize canvas space on whatever program you're using though.

Also, If you can I would HIGHLY recommend trying it out in person first before buying. There was a huge issue with the previous gen 16 pro that ultimately forced me to get the 16 regular and I don't know if this is still the case with the current gen releases:
Basically Wacom's obsession with having ultra thin glass and laminated pixels is terrible for the longevity of the tablet. The 16 pro's glass is so thin that even slight pressure on it (ie: the palm of your hand resting on the glass) is enough to cause permanent damage over time. I used a 16 pro for a year and by the end of the year it had dozens of dead pixels and a huge fuzzy patch of reddish pixels where my hand rests naturally. This also happened to my friend's tablet and looking online this appears to be a regular issue, and frankly I wasn't surprised.
TLDR: the 16 regular does not have this issue, the glass is not laminated and so unless you press real hard you are not putting any real pressure on the pixels of the screen itself.
I'll also say that the higher resolution of the pro is unnecessary, at the distance you are likely to be using the device, you won't get any benefit from having a super high resolution display.
Having a device that is built to last longer than a year is more important imo.

Now, again, I don't know if any of this is the case with their current gen devices, but I suspect the issue is likely to persist so try out the pro and regular versions if you can and decide for yourself.

>>8074004
>>8074007
>huion
doesn't have the art pen 2 though

>>8074029
The new cintiq 16 seems to be a lot better than the previous models.

My plan was to buy the 16 and if I still enjoy drawing in a few years then buy a big fancy 20+ inch pro model. Budget is not a concern but I get that spending 3.5K as a beginner would be reckless.

>>8073854
I'm a 13 incher simply because i have a smol desk

>>8073952
>>8073957
not sure about the relation, but my 13-inch screen is almost exactly the size and shape of a4, or common copy/printer paper. the other example i worked with, my previous smaller tablet, (being just under 10 inches,) was the size of my sketchbook. they did feel nice to me. i usually expand the window with my canvas to the full, or 2/3 the size of the screen, because as you said, it feels very natural to draw on spaces sharing the general dimensions of that which you work with traditionally, (and this, for me, is both a4 paper (<-full screen) and my slightly smaller sketchbooks (<-2/3 screen.))
my current (13-inch screen) feels a natural size to perch on my lap and draw, anytime.
as another anon said, not reaching for larger sizes can make for your device to be entirely portable, which, in turn, makes you want to carry it with you everywhere because it’s no trouble, so you end up using it a whole lot more. if i went larger, it might feel awkward in my lap even at home. not sure if my personal experience is helpful because i’m not sure what uses you intend for yours, and your appreciation for your product would probably be a good bit effected by whether it’s specs serve your specific needs, and i live and work in a probably unusually minimal environment, but hope i regardless answered the spirit of your questions ok.

Is a screen tablet usually a better tool than a screenless tablet?

I'd like to make the jump with a Kamvas 16, from a Deco Pro M, but I don't know if it's an actual upgrade or just a "cope" that will improve nothing about my digital drawing.