>learn fundamentals and draw realism using Western books like Keys to Drawing, Science of Drawing, Perspective Made Easy, Loomis, Vilppu, Rendering by Scott, Color Theory etc. etc.>copy your favorite artists using manga and anime artbooks>really deconstruct their art and understand what is happening, form, proportions, lines, shading, expressions etc.>check your progress by drawing without reference and making your own original anime art>supplement your studies with Japanese How-To books from E-Hentai or the /asg/ github>remember these books don‘t teach you how to draw anime but they teach you how to draw in the style of the How-To books, so only pick one that you like and fits your own goal of what you want your anime drawings to look lineThis is what I have gathered from reading DOZENS of archived /ic/ threads on how you actually learn anime. It‘s so difficult because everyone is advising something different.Feel free to critique my roadmap or add to it.
have you drawn anything yet
>>8075798Add in more western unrelated stuff, drop the anime to 10% of your studies and you're golden. Could even make a YouTube channel later in your career to sell some courses.
>>8075798anime is just regular drawing with a different facial style.
>>8075801I have done the Oval shapes from the science of drawing book. I am scared to jump into anime though as I don‘t really know the right way to learn it. That‘s why I posted the roadmap I created to gather some feedback. The last thing I want is to be 1000s of hours deep into drawing only to be on the wrong path for all the time.I can post my stuff later when I am home after work.
>>8075798>>8075819stop overthinking shit and just draw you queer
>>8075819>>8075823these are both "anime">>8075820is right, just start drawing, it'll be anime as long as you say it is (except that it won't and never will be because the only thing that makes it anime is it being japanese.
you can skip all that with csp and drawing over the 3d models it offers
>>8075825just prompt it unc
>>8075824>>8075823>mfw
>>8075824>these are both "anime"I really hate people like you.
>>8075798you need to draw another 500 gorillion boxes before you draw anything kek...
left: westernright: animelesson over, grab your diploma
>>8075823>>8075824>>8075849
>>8075850wow, they sure explained why those people are wrongoh wait
>>8075850>cognitive resolutionIs this a joke?
>>8075853it reads like something a tranny would come up with
>>8075850This is just cope from weebs
>>8075798Instead of thinking in terms of a strict, prescribed training regimen, think about where your weaknesses are relative to your goal and build your personal regimen to address them.Instead of thinking of anime as a well defined set of cliches, think of a loose set of priorities and choices related to practical function - much of that being the demands of animation or manga.It's important to separate design from style, even though a specific design language can be a part of your signature style. What I mean by this is that a Japanese animator can draw western designs, but still have the result feel Japanese. It's because that feeling comes from their technical strengths and priorities, not the design itself.Case in point, this is a Japanese fan art of As Told by Ginger, widely acknowledged to be one of the ugliest cartoons of all time. Compare the strong volumes, sense of design, and general appeal in that image to just about any other piece of fan art of that show, if you dare. Those are the things that make a difference.As important as form is to most anime, there is also an element of the abstract to it all, where the choices are made based on graphical principles and flare rather than what is real and logical. This is not something to train necessarily, but something to develop.
>>8075869(continued)There is something about anime separate from technical elements that we do have to acknowledge - there are fads and trends because it is commercial art. Audience expectations should play into your stylistic and design choices, if you want some measure of success online. (This isn't unique to anime. Just look at what western animated movies have become post Spiderverse.) Show the modern weeaboo a screenshot of a children's anime from the early 80s, and they'd likely retort "that's not anime." In fact you see examples of this in this thread.Here's the thing though. Fads come and go. Tastes in design change. Technical skills will see you through all of it.
>>8075869>>8075881I didn‘t understand anything you said. So practice fundamentals, practice anime „style“ but tinker with different designs? It‘s funny, I am trying to research how to draw anime but the same as every thread in the /ic/ archive, nothing useful comes out of it. Nobody here can really answer „How do you learn to draw anime illustrations?“.
>>8075881I wonder who else besides Ryusuke Mita got addicted to booze and LSD in the 1990s.
>>807590293 & 94 is best
>>807590295 I came with one eye closed
>>8075889Ask deepseek.
>>8075798Apparently there's some secret ninjutsu technique only spoken of on this board
>>8075869>loose set of priorities and choices related to practical functionBut the priorities and resulting techniques are in fact extremely strict precisely because of the practical (storytelling adjacent) function of anime styles. Speaking purely technically, it's not loose at all what is and isn't anime despite what the r*ddit midwits want you to believe.
>>8075798>learn fundamentals>fundamentalsThat is reddit psyop language engineered to subvert you by making you accept without question a false notion of what "fundamental" even is to begin with, since what's actually fundamental to anime has nothing to do with what's considered "fundamental" in western circles. It's honestly unbelievable just how effective this one linguistic device has been at subverting the entirety of the west's art learning culture. Might still take decades to fully heal from this even with people waking up to the box mossad psyops recently.
>>8075977>since what's actually fundamental to anime has nothing to do with what's considered "fundamental" in western circlesAh yes, the fabled anime fundamentals only spoken about by anons here but never explained.
>>8075984I've seen it explained. You can put it into words but you won't be able to understand anyway unless you have high enough cognitive resolution that's only achievable by having experience with anime.Usually if you aren't a lost cause it should be kind of intuitive to you already or at least it shouldn't cause aggression when you see the idea.
>>8075987Can't take you seriously if you can't explain it
>>8075977meanwhile actual japanese pros all recommend western books but I guess it's all a psyop to keep the secret anime scrolls away from white devilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBqEj3tKD6o
>>8075850From "Even A Monkey Can Draw Manga"
>>8075995The reddit midwit filter is very real.
>>8076004Kek. Does mocking the notion of low cognitive resolution extend even further back into history beyond Japan? Perhaps the Greeks had something to say about it too?
>>8075850
the japanese are hiding their secrets...i refuse to draw until i uncover them
>>8076037You can only uncover those truths through anime. Are you content with Saito looking at you smugly like this?
>>8076043will non-Japanese discover the wheel next
>>8076050wheely dont think so
>>8075977Post your Discord you piece of shit, I will make you embarrass yourself.
>>8075798have you considered just trying to draw and seeing what happens?
Is it ok to just stick to the e-hentai artbooks for illustration references? I can‘t really warm up to big sites like pixiv, gelbooru or deviantart, it‘s just too much content and I find it hard to find stuff that I like.The artbooks on e-hentai are really advanced but I rarely see one that I dislike. Is that a problem?
>>8075881i like 70s the most, but don't know any anime from that era
>>8076004"if someone accuses you of ripping Katsuhiro Otomo off, just proudly reply, Oh No, I`m actually more influenced by Moebius."Comedy gold and true to life because both Hayao Miyazaki and Naoki Urasawa said on documentaries that they and several other old school Mangaka were influenced by Moebius.
>>8075849Should have done eyes hidden in deeply set blackened shadows under the brow ridge
>>8075889>I didn‘t understand anything you said.This requires some self introspection, which doesn't come quickly.Let's move away from trying to objectively define anime or manga for a moment. What makes you gravitate towards anime or manga as opposed to its western equivalents? You have to be specific. "Cute" and "cool" are generic feelings that are not actionable. I'm looking for something more like "I prefer their approach to linework," "I think anime has better volume and structure," "I like that they utilize more cinematic angles." The more carefully you think about this, the more specific you will be in what you want, and that should better guide your studies.>practice anime „style“ but tinker with different designs? What I'm trying to move you away from, is defining anime as a specific proportion, or a specific set of design cliches. The vast majority of time and effort that is spent here is in the study of drawing waifus basically, but a functional Japanese animator or mangaka has to do more than draw cute girls, don't they? If I showed you a screenshot of a fat ugly bastard from some hentai anime, you would still recognize it as Japanese, right?Do not try to find some kind of "golden geometry" for anime. Rather, focus on the qualities and strengths and priorities that the Japanese imbue in their artwork, which show through even when they draw something decidedly not anime. This is why I showed you Japanese artwork of western character. It divorces you from design, not because it isn't important, but because it is the most superficial. Look past the design.
>>8075798Copy your favorite Japanese works.Do master copies from memory(even old Western masters did this)???Profit
>>8075881>>8075869>>8075798>>8076200I feel what a lot of people are missing from the "how to draw anime" discussion is that all anime is rooted in Tezuka's work, which was a combination of Disney cartoons, cinematic paneling borrowed from Western movies, and comic strips. Every big mangaka who came immediately after Tezuka copied his art, and their successors collectively copied their art while taking in new influences from Europe. Tezuka also made the "first" anime! Anime cannot be divorced from animation either.If you want to get better at drawing anime...study Disney cartoons and comics. Animate! Copy your favorite manga art. This is how all mangaka do it.
>>8076389>Disney cartoons, cinematic paneling borrowed from Western movies, and comic strips>If you want to get better at drawing anime...study Disney cartoons and comics.WE WUZ KANGZ!!!
>>8075798>>learn fundamentals and draw realism using Western books like Keys to Drawing, Science of Drawing, Perspective Made Easy, Loomis, Vilppu, Rendering by Scott, Color Theory etc. etc.no japanese artist does this btw
>>8076902What's with the western obsession of trying to find clever ways to sidestep doing the actual thing they supposedly want to do? It should sound absurd on the face of it.>>8075798>This is what I have gathered from reading DOZENS of archived /ic/ threads on how you actually learn animeYou almost never see anything even approaching the ballpark of proper Japanese anime made by posters of /ic/. Really makes you think...
