>imagine a scene in my head>it has a certain composition, atmosphere, colors, objects in specific placements etc>paint it roughly before it's gone from my head>looks nothing like what I imagined vibe-wise >have no idea how to fix it or what to do next >original scene is already starting to vanish from my headIs there a way to address this specifically
>>8075923I have higher cognitive resolution so i can tell that you are never gonna make it and should just give up
>>8075929chads lift up other chadsGo draw as punishment for being a crab, 10 gestures
>>8075930I am not a chad, are you?
Probably best to get a bunch of thumbnail sketches out while the idea is fresh in your head. Now you have some concrete rough drafts to work from.
>>8075923Naoki Saito describes this phenomena as the person's perception and technical skill not matching up. Try the 13-hour improvement method, it temporarily bridges the gap between perception and technical skill, allowing you to create what you actually want from imagination.
>>8075923stop being retarded, put down the paintbrush, and pick up the pencil you unskilled fool
>>8075923want a slice?
>>8075923This won't work i can imagine entire cities and planets with population yet at start i couldn't draw it all... then i build up proper skills and visual library now i can somehow manage still i would have to look for references.
>>8075923Use blender or some diorama?
>>8075923are you VISUALIZING the image and OBSERVING it has a specific "atmosphere and vibe", or are you just daydreaming and imagining you thought of an image with a certain vibe?those are two different thingsit's a rhetorical question, you're doing the latter
>>8077225What is the difference anyway?
>>8077233This is why you are NGMI
>>8077233visualizing means you see an image and judge it like any other imageimagining means you go "wow I made a cool image" without seeing the actual image and just telling yourself it's cool because feefees
>>8077238How you can imagine something without seeing it? Sometimes I get deluded so much that it's like I'm here, but my eyes are busy looking at something that it's only in my head. How can someone "imagine", and have no picture, but rather an idea of it?
>>8077239the same way you do math in your head, retardagain, if you don't SEE THE IMAGE AS ANY OTHER IRL IMAGE, you are not visualizing, you're just imagining a concept of an imageI guarantee you are not visualizing ever if you ask such retarded questionsthink of your mother's face, do you SEE the face or is it just an impression? if you can't draw it like any other ref, you are not actually visualizing it
>>8077241I literally see her by seeing a portrait I've made as a child, a photo from her passport and the way she looked like from my memories (depending on period of time/environment)You don't imagine math, you do calculations. I guess I can try to visualize a school desk and draw numbers on it but it's like a slower version of a more efficient and familiar process
>>8077239Asking that means you have zero visualization ability and aren't even aware of what visualizing looks like.
>>8077243>I literally see herdraw what you "see" and post itt
>>8077243>You don't imagine math, you do calculationsretard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_syndrome
>>8077245I'm a nowdraw howie who takes hours to copy/trace Kirby.>>8077244You just make up words or mix them at this point. I'm leaving the thread, cuz it's obvious you just used the term "imagine" as something like "imagine you had 1000$" when someone explains a situation for you, instead of something like "imagine an island, you're surrounded by an ocean and orcas". I think you most likely even heard sounds in addition to the image, and most likely had something like seeing yourself in that environment from first personAlso, after reading on drawing and doing some stuff, I guess it's true you can draw without having an imagination, just because most artworks are mixes of existing ideas and because of the amount of techniques that make it not necessarily to see everything in 3d in your head and trace it from your mindUnironically, if you relied on your visualization, you wouldn't need any drawing techniques at all, because you'd just trace an image directly from your imagination. I don't think I've seen anyone doing that, unless it's some artist drawing a simple character they've drawn 1000 of times (usually it's some Family Guy type of shit designed in a way so drawing it for 1000s of times is easy)
>it's real in my headokay, retard
>>8077248How do you do math, it's literally an abstract thinking>>8077250>Only 28 cases have been publishedAlso, after reading the article, I don't see how it can be applied to the discussion here. It's like if you'd send an article about people who want to cut their limb off in the discussion about people who can't draw from shoulder or struggle to draw straight lines
>>8077254>I don't seeCorrect.
>>8077259*starts twerking on you* I see >:)
>>8075923>imagine a scene in my head>it has certain composition, atmosphere, colors, objects in specific placements etc>paint it roughly before it's gone from my head>keep working on it for hours>looks exactly like what I had in mind but it's not very good
>>8077214I've tried Blender and it works well for the general layout but nothing else, for example I'll imagine a scene >it will have a certain mood>a specific time of day>a direction from where the light is coming from>a color palette >a composition of values >etcBut I will still fail to account for subtle things like >maybe there are shadows on the ground from trees that aren't in the "viewport">maybe the light will be coming from an impossible angle given where the lit areas are in my mind>maybe I'm imagining three slightly different FOVs/perspectives and stitching them into one experience in my mind that can't actually be drawn >maybe there's something that I know is in the scene that can't actually fit into the picture like when you see a tall tree but look on the ground around, you're aware of the tree in your mind but you can't draw both the height of the tree and the ground around it from one POV >etc The scene you can have in your mind is much stronger and subtler than what you can draw on canvas
>>8077329>The scene you can have in your mind is much stronger and subtler than what you can draw on canvasNo, you're just delusionally attributing emotional impact to an image that doesn't evoke it, and when you are faced with objective reality, you engage in mental gymnastics as a defense mechanism.
>>8075923this load into my brain like scenes in this game https://youtu.be/ga-rgkm6POE some take timethe more I draw the more I can see things when I close my eyes, things look like crappy stop motion if try to move them, when I started to go heavy into color and light in my imaginations some colors started to show. it helps not doing tiktok or youtube shorts
>>8077329nigga you're literally describing not being able to visualize and just operating on impressions
>>8078046>has a lower cognitive resolution>projects that as not being able to visualizeIronic
>>8078067that's not what cr is and you literally described "knowing" something is in the picture that "can't be drawn"please take your meds and fuck off
>>8078071Yes anon if you can literally only imagine the canvas and not the stuff just outside it you have a lower cognitive resolution You know how seeing the moon in real life can be impressive, and then you take a photo of it and it's just a white dot? Or how the scale of the Grand Canyon can't be conveyed in a photo? That's because photos have a lower cognitive resolution than eyes and human brains, if you can only visualize the canvas you're barely even human
>>8078075retard
>imagine a scene in my head>it sucks>dont draw>want to draw>can't imagine anything worth drawing>don't want to draw something I didn't come up withnow what
Yes.But I'm not telling you.
You should be able to imagine this
>>8078445Maybe if youre a fish
>>8078445Imagining it isn't an issue, not comprehending that looks like shit is an issue
>>8075923Keep a pocket notebook and pen, draw quick figure sketches of the vision and important elements. Make the thing. When it doesn't align, you need to figure out what is not aligning, respect this other thing you made, and this other thing has taught you about your skill gaps on the technical basis of art. The disatisfaction is the drive towards the skill acquisition. It's the same process as all skill and hobby development. You keep doing and accept the failures as lessons till you can do the thing you want to do. Boring answer but the truth.
