>what has your experience been with commissions?>how much did you sell and what were your prices?>have you sold more through twitter/bluesky/whatever or discord?>if discord, which servers?>does NSFW sell more than SFW?picrel is my work
>>8077649Blog?
I wouldn't pay for this
>>8077649>>does NSFW sell more than SFW?I'm a professional animator who has worked in real TV and Movie studios before...BUT.If I could travel back in time, I would have started a patreon in 2015 and just do some niche fetish.People will pay out the fucking nose for high quality porn of their niche fetish. Farting, muscle girls, vore, etc. I would be making $50,000 every month.
>>8077665Am I retarded or you are? The guy you posted is the number 46 in NSFW, not even just animation, and he is making 11 000 a month at most. Sakimichan, back when she did not hide her earnings on Patreon, was earning "only" 30 000 a month as top 1 artist
>>8077679>Sakimichan, back when she did not hide her earnings on Patreon, was earning "only" 30 000 a month as top 1 artistWho said I couldn't surpass that?Sakimichan wasn't even the richest patreon. It is possible to get into the 6 digits. There are definitely fart fetishest or lolicons who would pay a pretty penny for a a very spicy commission.
>>8077684I think the fact that you are comparing yourself to a motherfucking podcast undermines your own claims. Why not compare yourself to the president of the US then, or Elon Musk? In the NSFW genre Sakimichan was number one. To earn podcast or videogame numbers you have... make podcasts or videogames. Some of the fetishists could pay decent money indeed but there is no way you could reach consistent 50 000 a month, you could only hope to get some good money for a full-blown 1 minutes or longer animation but you would struggle to pump it out every month. Hoestly this overblown enthusiasm makes you look like a teen rather than an actual experienced animator that spent years working in the industry. If reaching even 10 000 were easy, that guy wouldn't be earning $11 000 and be the number 46 NSFW artist on fucking Patreon
>>8077665>Porn "artist" lauded with pointless accolades finally rears his ugly headI hope you go broke in the next 5 years and die of starvation under a bridge you fucking faggot. You are worthless subhuman scum. Stop stealing from actual artists.
>>8077685>I think the fact that you are comparing yourself to a motherfucking podcast undermines your own claims. Why not compare yourself to the president of the US then, or Elon Musk? No, because a patron is anyone in the world willing to tip or support a cause. The U.S President makes his money off American taxes only and Elon owns stocks.> In the NSFW genre Sakimichan was number oneAnd? I don't care about the bitch. >you could only hope to get some good money for a full-blown 1 minutes or longer animation but you would struggle to pump it out every month.Or hear me out, I hire my own private team of animators to help me meet demand.>Hoestly this overblown enthusiasm makes you look like a teen rather than an actual experienced animator that spent years working in the industryLol, suck my balls. And lick my choad.>If reaching even 10 000 were easy, that guy wouldn't be earning $11 000 and be the number 46 NSFW artist on fucking PatreonTheGoldenSmurf has more revenue sources than just Patreon. It's actually considered side income since he has contracts with Konami for example.
>>8077649hummina hummina. i would have sex with her, if you know what i mean
>>8077687Cope and seethe.
>>8077692I'm neither coping nor seething. However I would like to see you suckstart a shotgun
>>8077693You seem to have more experience. Keep sucking on it then.
>HURR DURR COPE>HURR DURR SEETHEThe go-to canned response of a braindead subhuman who has no ability to make even a remotely good defense or even muster up a low tier zoomer level "comeback". Absolutely fucking pathetic on the highest order.
>>8077694Play Frogger on the I-95 you retarded fucking barely conscious bio-LLM.
>>8077695Keep crying Indian.
>>8077697I'm White, Southern European. Nice try cocksucker.Also yet another predetermined canned response from the brainlet bio-LLM. How quaint. As if I haven't fucking heard "keep cwying hurr durr" 10^10 times. Fuck off. Seriously. And stop badgering the people of this board with your horrendous /beg/ "art".
>>8077700>Southern European. So you're a wop then.
>>8077704You latched on to one part of my post and blew past the rest. You know I'm right. Checkmate, bio-LLM.
>>8077704more like gypsy
>>8077706The sad thing is you're probably underage. You don't even know what a Gypsy is. Romanis are from the Indian subcontinent.Also do your chores Timmy.
>>8077665Had the same thoughts, but I wasn't sure that my tastes will remain the same and thought it was just a phase. Now I'm convinced that I'm an autists with very few specific kinks and I should've been drawing since mid 2010s
>>8077649>>what has your experience been with commissions?went broke this year so i finally stopped lurking twatter and started posting art ~6 months ago. been slow to find clients so far but i think i havent been aggressive enougn marketing myself. i am also skittish about explicit porn>>how much did you sell and what were your prices?roughly 6 commissions from 65usd to 80usd>>have you sold more through twitter/bluesky/whatever or discord?twitter. i had a different artistic identity prior to my current twitter account and all my previous commissioners from discord dislike my new style>>if discord, which servers?very small niche communities over a period of years. don't recommend doing what i did>>does NSFW sell more than SFW?yes. in my opinion demand for porn far oustrips supply, even with AI around. we are in the era of the internet gooner. gotta find your clients first though
>>8077649I got multiple comisions offerings but i hate doing them, there is one guy that is constantly asking me to draw futa jill valentine fucking the shit out of eveline and i almost want to block him.Its allways been like this for me, people want to pay me for something but i just hate working for someone else, its like im made for failure.
>>8077688>The U.S President makes his money off American taxes onlyholy shit LMAO
>>8077908In my defense, I shouldn't count "corruption" as being a legitimate revenue for sitting office.
>>8077649Why do you draw in low res only? Your values and shapes are so good you should start refining it.
>>8077649as a commissioner, i really like fixed standardized pricing. a lot of artists will have a nebulous "range" of prices based on complexity, but most of the time i just get the feeling that the artist i'm looking to hire is either opportunistically adjusting the prices for his own benefit, or is just pulling a number out his ass.i really like commissioning through Vgen because the standard commission form is a buffet of different options. stuff like "+$80 to add a second character" or "+$50 for a simple chackground" are really helpful for me to know what i'm getting myself into, so i don't have to shoot the artist a message for every idea.
>>8077665>look at all the money this people make!>there must be millions of nsfw accounts in patreon>the top 46 dude makes between 4k(a normal low wagy job) to 11k (decent job) in 2023>The TOP 46 out of MILLIONSThis guy has his mind completely turned into mush, his brain is gone
>>8078292You are the kind of people that goes >$80 for a second character right? ok! The first one is my highschool persona, but the second It's like this shinigami that has metal armor made of gold and silver, with four arms and of course the shinigami wings, and he carries like a thousand swords because he was a samurai (Make his armor helmet be like a samurai one)>You said $50 for a simple background right? I just want a simple park, they are standing in the park, and it has simple benches, and like simple people running around, and there's like a bunch of simple girls having a simple picnic, with a simple couple playing fetch with their dogs in the simple park, with lots of trees and maybe a street vendor or two, it's a simple, normal park background!I can smell you behind the screenYOU are the reason real artists don't do that shit pricing scheme
>>8078712i understand your argument, but have you considered that maybe it's not a good business model to sell commissions for +50% or so more than the initial listed price? an extra $20 for a $100 commission is understandable. listing a posting on vgen as "$45" when the $45 is for a sketch, but the example art displayed above the price tag is a $200 full-render with complex background is kind of annoying, and i see it a lot.
>>8078966That's a you problem for going on vgen, where you can't have flexible estimates on the spot and artist can't have minimal sales overall or get demoted so they try to ramp up their numbers, having low prices to better position on page even if they are not their actual prices.I have flexible budget and I'm really happy to never deal with people like you again, I whored myself like a retard to appeal to your demographic but no more. I know charge for my time and for that I require your full idea upfront before giving a rate
>>8077649I would pay maybe $20 for this.
You couldn't even pay me to share my commissions
>>8078966I've never had anyone complain about not setting a price range. After a certain price bracket people stop focusing on cheap and start focusing on quality. No one cares if the price is +100% the listed number. If the piece is good they'll happily pay it and tip another +50% on top of it and show up a month later for another one. If the commission is going to take me more time, I'm going to get paid more for it. If your character is really dumb and I have to spend forever figuring out how to make it look not dumb, I get paid more for it. I've had people hand me a literal book to read before I did the comm, and you'd better believe they paid more for that. And they did. The buffet thing is just unnecessarily convoluted for people who care more about the art than the price tag.>>8077649>what has your experience been with commissions?Mostly fine. Honestly, as per above, I used to advertise for a super cheap sketch tier for like $40 and those were the worst. Never again. Also, always money up front, no exceptions.>how much did you sell and what were your prices?I make a couple thousand a month, but it varies a lot. Generally I get about $3-400 a piece. And the occasional commercial job goes for something like $10000 on an hourly rate, but I only get one a year usually and it takes up a good chunk of that year.>have you sold more through twitter/bluesky/whatever or discord?Twitter definitely. I have about as active a following on both, and I've gotten ONE commission on Bluesky total, and several a month on Twitter. Reddit can be okay too, but there's a lot of spam to contend with.>does NSFW sell more than SFW?Not really. It sells FOR more. But people wanting tabletop characters vastly outnumber people wanting porn. And they tend to be better clients in general. I feel like it used to be true that NSFW was hyperprofitable, but it's a niche that AI genuinely cratered, especially with safe shit like fanart lewds.
