Do you have this mindset /ic/? If not why?
>>8081291I struggle witht he networking partI actually am genuinely horrible at texting and messaging others and do not know how often is okay. Help a retard out?If you have an art acquaintence you just got a business card from in person, or on socials an artist talks to you who you might work on a project later with, how often do you message? Not at all except when you need something? Do you pop in every few months? Do you talk regularly? I have no idea how people message to keep casual contact
Absolute crock.
>>8081291>>8081293>>8081294As someone who has been working full time doing anime character designs and can live comfortably in the USA, I agree with everything said here. A lot of artists from third world or lower cost of living may choose to ignore some of these things, but artists in higher cost of livign areas have to accept all of these truths in order to survive. I saved all of these for when I need to quickly explain this to my other friends. Surprisingly high quality thread. Post more.
>>8081291meh advice
>look mom, I turned my opinion into a flowchartgood job, anon. if only your opinion wasn't "if you don't maximize every action you take to become a soulless cog in the machine you're doing something WRONG".
This is obvious stuff for anyone who wants to make a career out of art.I can't believe so many people are drama whores on the very accounts they use to post their art -- the accounts that are essentially acting as their resume and portfolio.Even if they're not actively seeking a job, and want to be a self-employed artist, why are they making themselves a toxic brand to potential customers?So this shit is bread and butter advice, but for the amount of retards who seem to not naturally get it, I guess it needs to be said.
>>8081323Is this much of an opinion, though? Seems like common sense. A "guide" a toddler might consider useful.One could debate whether people don't care about the artist... at the higher pay grades it's definitely the spectacle of the person that drives the value of the art.
>>8081291tldr I don't post drawings online. Good or bad the public doesn't deserve it, what they deserve is to eat shit. I encourage artists to use AI so there's even more of it. Normies should have nothing but AIslop
I vill not force myself to 'be positive'. I will be sincere.I vill not engage with astroturfed fake 'trends'. I will pursue my own projects.I vill not 'network'. I will talk to the people I want to talk to. Opportunities will flow naturally from that, and they will be real opportunities worth taking. Remember that 'social media trendslop merchant' isn't the only creative career path you can go for, and you'd probably be better off working as a cashier than debasing yourself and the people around you by creating cultural shovelware. If your plan is to get rich, you're in the wrong field anyway.
>>8081302nice samefagging op
>>8081343>>8081345I'm 22 and I never considered these things so they are useful to me
>claude, make a spreadsheet >no, more retarded>I said more
>>8081291I don't because I work over 60 hours a week, and I don't want art to be another source of bullshit to deal with.
>>8081291Any artist who uses hobby as a snarl word is a lost soulless bug.
Artists are drama whores by default lol
>>8081294>>8081293>>8081292>>8081291aids
>>8081291someone a while back posted a similar image here, it was something like"online artist guide" and had similar but more streamlined advice, does anyone have it?
/ic/ really just is a dump for dumb shit from twittersource: https://x.com/reonufa/status/2121035614145679387
>>8081592it was tumblr back in the day, nothing changed, there are just less people in it now, this boards is useless
>>8081605it's a lot worse now because people on social media are less shameless about wanting to be associated with this place and shitting it up with their astroturfing.
>>8081294you can meme the other things all you like, but that last box is universally utter bullshit
yeah, why can't you just be well adjusted to an extremely sick society and environment where everyone is just engagement baiting and trolling all the time, are so hard on the spectrum they're collecting every mental illness like the pokemen animals they want to have sex with, have the humor of a reddit mod and posses the professionality of a pedophile necrophiliac in a child cemetery?
I have about 17 followers and my skills are so low I don't even call myself an artist but thinking you can game the algorithm is cargo cult bullshit that might have worked a decade ago but has been patched since. Doubly so now that Elon will pay you for your Xeets, back then the platform might not have given a shit if you optimised your account but now they have to nerf anything that works before indian bots bankrupt them.Think about it for a second, how many artists do you know because of their skills, like you've saw their art reposted somewhere, at a convention, on Newsgrounds while looking for femboy porn or whatever, or because you read a comic they made, and how many because they got involved in bullshit drama with retards over nonsense and only then you decided they drew cute femboys and were worth following ?
>>8081642>astroturfingI only every see antisocial loser incels and nodraw /pol/ fags shitting up the board, not any of these sub 50k clout goblins that people keep insisting are manipulating the board.
>>8081680you should make a xitterdiscord post about it how you're here 24/7 just to own the polchudsnodrawcrabs who are loser incels that live inside your walls and how you being on 4chan doesn't make you exactly that because how can you be an incel loser crab if you accuse others of being the bad guy and how everyone pointing your retardation out and replying to you must actually be literally hitler?
>>8081291>"If you don't follow this rigid flow chart then you're just a hobbyist"Easiest way for anyone to know when to start ignoring someone. Not taking opinions from someone who willingly became a Content Farm. If all you have to offer as an Artist is trend art and fan art then don't try to act as an authority figure because you stopped being "you" a long time ago
>"to be internet famous you have to be a content shitter or else you're a hobbyist">"yo wtf why is everyone leaving?"
>>8081673The bullshit drama does work, but only if you cater to the gamer chudcels and maoist puritans, no one else cares.But yeah, gaming the algorithm in pretty much every way, hashtags, post times, shout-outs, whatever, is basically worthless now. You do have to post things people like, obviously, but that's such an impossibly broad category that's barely worth mentioning.
>>8081673the bullshit drama does work, because there are a lot of tribes of different flavored trannies and discord groomers constantly trying to spark more flame wars and larp as their own opposition as to justify their psychotic behavior.Everyone else has noticed.
>>8081725"Discord Groomers""Harvest Moon Groomers"
>>8081682(You) are a loser nodraw and this broad sucks because subhumans like (You) will do anything but draw.
>>8081733So, that means i got it correctly and you are part of the same group of shitters that has been tanking this site's quality even lower than it already was.Good talk
>>8081733agree, I hope they get hacked and exploited to filth i'm about to go back onto discord.
>>8081737aint that always the case, senpaithese niggas shit themselves and call others stinky
>>8081682I'm pretty sure that sentence shouldn't end in a question mark. Hard to tell, tbdesu.
Of course it is hard to tell, since you're blinded by your own rage.
>>8081741>these niggas shit themselves and call others stinky
>>8081747>>8081748
nigga so mad he's gonna reply to that post again with some passive aggressive faggot shit cuz he thinks he gonna get reddit points
https://youtu.be/dq_g7qNpFcs?si=qG6VfC0zBIh9jHU3&t=711>open up yt>get this fitting gem recommended
