Is psychiatric medication common in your country? Do you take it, and has it helped you?
>>221703057>Is psychiatric medication common in your country?Yes>Do you take itI take Vyvanse>has it helped youYes, but I shouldn't have to take medication which is only due to food coloring, heavy metals, and birth control shit in our food and water supply
>>221703471>Yes, but I shouldn't have to take medication which is only due to food coloring, heavy metals, and birth control shit in our food and water supplyTime to take another pill anon
>>221703057I love ssris they have no real side effects. Antipsychotics can be nice but they have too many side effect, overall i feel better without them.
>>221703057People here don't believe in depression or dismiss it. Especially if you are poor, you have no support system.
>>221703502>Time to take another pill anon
>>221703562I kind of agree (I think depression is very mindset driven) but what about anxiety or mood disorders (bipolar or schizophrenia). I think someone suffering from these may develop a depressed mindset.>>221703553SSRI seem to really help with anxiety/stress management, but my life falls apart without them. I am not sure if it is the underlying condition or dependance on the medication. I have tried all the usual advice, but I can't sustainably stay of them with agoraphobia and I usually nuke my life in the process (lose job, relationships ect).
>>221703471I think westerners just live in a hyper competitive, stressed society. I am curious if mental health issues are more prevalent now, or just more noticeable.
>>221703057I actually have a lot to say about this subject. An enormous amount of my office, college classmates, family members, etc. are on them.I myself have been on ADHD meds and on-and-off different anti-depressants since I was 21 (currently 28).To give quick, initial answers:>Is psychiatric medication common in your country?For people under 40 it's practically the norm. In particular, the vast majority of women under 40 have been on psychiatric medication at some point.>Do you take it?I've taken methylphenidate, vyvanse, wellbutrin, and several different SSRIs over the years.>Has it helped you?Complex question. Overall? Yes, but it really, really, really matters the context behind why you're unhappy, what else you've done to try to improve your mood/life.
>>221703733I think society nowadays is simply more diagnosed and medicated. In past times the schizophrenic was talking to the gods and the autistic was simply the weird one
>>221703057Yes, Im only on 25mg of Zoloft doe. I just hope they’re aren’t any long term consequences to being on SSRIs>>221703815I wish our schizos would fucking take meds and not be screaming nuisances
>>221703781>Complex question. Overall? Yes, but it really, really, really matters the context behind why you're unhappy, what else you've done to try to improve your mood/life.This triggers me, because I see these comments alot (you have to change your lifestyle or do xyz). Putting a huge amount of pressue to achieve material goals isn't going to make me feel better. I am lazy and anxious. I just want to work a job and have a quiet, simple life. An income and financial security is what will improve my life, not going for a run or forcing myself into social situations. I don't want to radically change my life. I just want to be able to manage anxiety/stress enough to be a reliable worker.
>>221704358This is exactly why I said "the context behind why you're unhappy." If you're unhappy because you can't find gainful employment, then that's the thing to address. You need to examine what habits may be hindering your ability to succeed and whether/what type of psychiatric treatment will make those hurdles easier to get over.Being anxious and depressed because you have no job and no money is incredibly legitimate. And going for a run or going out more isn't going to help. So what things within your control can you do differently to set yourself up success and a better chance at getting what you want?
>This please is full to the brim with chemical dependsI never took a single pill my entire life. from a few years ago onwards people really started to intensely recommend and telling me the wonders it did for them, they really freak out.pillheads really go out their to try to hook everybody they know on this shit
>>221704459To build on this, I've been unhappy my entire life for a number of laundry list of reasons.Going on ADHD meds helped me actually get my boring, sedentary work done, so I was less anxious and mad at myself for procrastinating, and I could actually get shit done and move to the next thing that I actually wanted to do.At my lowest point, the SSRIs blunted my emotions, so I basically just couldn't fall into the biggest pits of depression. I was still depressed and felt like shit the whole time I was on them, but it put a floor under me (and gave me side effects). Then I switched to Wellbutrin, and that was way better for me because my emotions were no longer blunted, it actually helped my motivation (and achieving things is what makes me happy). I no longer needed something to keep a floor underneath me bc I was able to change my life enough that I no longer needed it. Wellbutrin instead helped control my wild mood swings so I didn't catastrophize as much and didn't go through mini depressive episodes after overreacting to something.
>>221704459The answer is manage an overstimulated flight/fight response and hyperarousal. I have anxiety to a level that causes insomnia and nasty physical feeling, and generally it is triggered from situations that I know logically don't require it. Over time, the heightened anxiety results in changes to my thinking/logic (paranoia) and physical effects (weight loss, high blood pressure, lack of sleep).The root is a sensitive flight or fight state. Nothing but medication has ever worked, and even then medication only tones it down. I have seen people suggest so many alternatives to medication for this issue, but they never work. Not sure if it is genetic or mindset, but I can't change it by paying a few 1000 for a therapist. I know the thinking is not logical and their is no danger.
I'm on lexapro, seroquel, trazodone, zyprexa, buspar, and vistaril. I still want to kill myself.
>>221704614I have hyper vigilance, which is similar (and also has given me lifelong insomnia). It took nearly a decade of therapy for clinicians to cut through me enough to identify several of the problems.If the root is permanent fight/flight and you logically know it doesn't make sense, there's a good chance that "the trauma lives in your nervous system." That's huge to know. Then it's about doing things that train your nervous system to stand down. If you're already on psychiatric meds and they work, great. But it doesn't sound like they're working quite enough. If you don't want to do therapy, and you don't know what habits to change/things to try, my unironic recommendation is to buy a Claude Pro account and use it as a therapist. It's honestly more effective than a bunch of therapists I've had in the past, and you can do way more than 1 hour per week.
Depression is a deficiency of brain energy production.Serotonin's role is not to boost your mood. It is to coordinate throughout your entire body the ability of your mitochondria to produce energy during transitions from lower to higher energy demand by coordinating the distribution of oxygen to where it is needed and by helping mitochondria meet energy demands without oxygen until enough has arrived. Morning sunlight signals the rise of energy demand that comes with wakefulness. This is why light is the primary driver of serotonin synthesis in the brain.This is also why morning sunlight is the most powerful treatment of depression.Altitude causes hypoxia, which deprives mitochondria of the oxygen they need to produce energy. This is why altitude is the primary geographical driver of depression.Intermittent hypobaric hypoxia training increases tolerance to hypoxia. This is why it is the longest-lasting antidepressant treatment in animal studies.The fix for depression is optimizing mitochondrial energy production.
>>221703057i work second shift so i've been taking melatonin (it's over the counter in my country btw) to sleep at a good time. it gives me really detailed dreams, or at least i can remember them better. i recommend it if you want to snooze and dream. a good sleep leaves me feeling good overall, but usually i feel groggier in the morning after i take it
>>221704723You are right about the trauma living in the nervous system, and I know this, but there is no way to change this outside of medication. I don't have finances to chase a a decade of therapy in the hope it can change.SSRIs seem to help alot with the hyperarousal. The anxiety still exsists, but it seems more manageable. I use epilim too, which I know is prescribed for mood disorder but I am not sure if it helps or not.
>>221703057Idk. I just endure the pain. I know is foolish, but I'm really skeptical of such medicines.
>>221704821>there is no way to change this outside of medication.that's not true. hope this doesn't trigger you, studies came out a few years ago that we were wrong about SSRIs' mechanism of action, and there's no scientific explanation for why they make people feel better beyond placebo effect. On the other hand, there's mountains of evidence for the efficacy of behavior-based therapy (CBT, DBT, ACT, exposure) and body-centric mindfulness techniques.I'd seriously encourage you to spend 20 bucks on a month of Claude Pro and see what it says.
>>221704759how do you mitochondriamaxx?
>>221704935The idea that SSRI benefits are placebo are ridiculous. I know the mechanism and science is not as simple or understood as some will make out, but this medication is not as widely used because it is not successful. The difference in my quality of life with and without is worlds apart.I think the issue with many mental health issues is the spectrum in which they can exist without a meaningful way of identifying the intensity outside of self reporting. CBT or Mindfulness work, we both know this, but it is a way of managing or dealing with lower levels of anxiety. Two people can present suffering from "anxiety", but the intensity can be much different. We tend to view this as one problem with the same solution, but I think it is much too vague. CBT and mindfulness are deffinetly appropriate first line solutions, but I believe anxiety and panic disorders can go much deeper than this.
why do you keep making the same thread every day you fucking retard
>>221706005Mad it's not an Indian hate thread or something?
>>221703057It didn't help at all. The only side effect was that I couldn't masturbate. I think I have ADHD and need amphetamine.
>>221707660Dont you worry amphetamines will just mess you up long term.I don't understand why ADHD awareness is so pushed when the long term effects of amphetamine usage are well understood as negative. Even my 60 year old father with a bad heart was talking about trying to get it as he said speed makes him not depressed and productive. Like yeah... no shit.Heightened anxiety is not normal, but adversion to taskes you don't want to do is.
basically ted kaczynski was right. nobody is depressed on their own. People need pills to cope with the nightmarish reality of industrial capitalism.
>>221703471It's not just what is in the water, it is that our system isn't what we evolved to handle. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Wealth and power coalesces to the top due to bargaining power disparities, and we get screwed. On average people make 4% more per year, but the cost of living jumps 9%. Soon we'll have the most money ever, but be unable to afford things our ancestors could. It's not sustainable.
>>221703471>Yes, but I shouldn't have to take medication which is only due to food coloring, heavy metals, and birth control shit in our food and water supplyIncrease your med intake
>>221703057>Is psychiatric medication common in your country? Yes>Do you take itI used to.>and has it helped you?No, it was useless and just made me feel weird physically. I dropped that shit and started going to the gym and trying to find things in my life that did make me happy.
>>221707717>>221707728I agree, but this does not provide a tangible solution for us goys. Eventually we get old, parents kick us out and we need to work.
>>221707774If the medication was useless and you could fix your issues going to the gym, maybe you had no mental issue to begun with?
>>221707884I never said I got better by going to the gym, only that it's been helping. I'm still miserable as shit but trying out therapy instead, which I think helps, as maybe you do just need someone to talk to sometimes instead of holding it all in.
>>221707920Ahh I see. It's worth a try before meds. I think depression is much harder to address with medicine. Therapy and gym are both solid ideas.
>>221708014I tried the SSRIs first actually and their failure is why I went with the gym and therapy side instead. My doc also recommended it, as for some people just taking pills won't address actual underlying issues. I'd say there's physical depression brought about by brain chemistry issues that can be solved with pills, and then there's depression where it is entirely mental and pills can't fix it, and I'm one of the latter I guess.
i'm on bupropion and it does somewhat help but the main boon i gain is that i actually have good days and weeks instead of a grey void for yearshonestly i'm not really getting better overall
>>221703815Schizophrenics typically died shortly after their diagnosis and didn't live long enough to completely degenerate, for males at least. You'd get diagnosed at 30 or so and die of some infection at 35.
>>221708283Wait why?I don't want to die :(
>I am the last /int/er who is not a fag or on brainpillsGrim, it's over
>>221708325Because most people used to die between 40-50 (40 for the poor, 50 for the wealthy). If you were the sort of person to have intense paranoid schizophrenia, it'd hit in your early 30s, build up over your early 30s, and then you might have a year or two at best of insanity before you fell into economic destitution and rags, and then died of exposure. There's exceptions for the rich of course, there was some noble who thought he was made of glass and would shatter if he was knocked over. But for 90% of the population it was a death sentence.The reason women were more associated with possession and witchcraft was because they got "possessed' at a younger age. Schizophrenia hits earlier for them, so they could live through their 20s with it. It's like down syndrome. Did you know most downies require heart surgery and/or medication to survive childhood? They never used to live long either, they were basically an unknown thing in the past.
>>221703057My doctor prescribed SSRI to me because I've been feeling tired and unable to enjoy things and focus my attention for over a year (brain fog etc.), but not really sad. It's been 1-2 weeks already but no effects yet.Maybe it's just my thalassemia getting worse with age idk if I should continue.I just want to feel good again
>>221703057I used to take MDMA
>>221703057>reuptikeIdiot with AI garbage. Kill yourself, retard.
>>221703057Is psychiatric medication common in your country? Mental illnesses are very undiagnosed here in Italy, especially in the rural south. Any illness that isn't physically debilitating or visible is treated as non existent both by peers and doctors. Depression and alike is treated as basically not being a real thing and if you do reach out to help, you get bullied and scorned (I speak from experience). Ironically my mom is a goddamn nutcase and she should be in a mental ward yet I'm forced to deal with her outbursts.>Do you take it?I have ADHD and in my shitty region is so under diagnosed that support structures just plain don't have the resources to help me. Pharmacies in my town and nearby will straight up not dispense the meds and some hospital pharmacies/ASLs will not stock up on it, even if you have an actual SSN diagnosis and not a private one. I have to go to another, much further away, town just to get the fucking pills.>and has it helped you?Yes and it really pisses me off that when I'm on them I can finally function as a normal being and keep to schedules and daily habits and when I'm not, I'm a borderline retarded idiot.
>>221707717Lmao, nothing much has changed with industrialization. People just use antidepressants instead of alcohol. That's all.
No, I'd rather die than be a slave to the Pharma Jew.
>>221707713I don't know, I'm a complete degenerate with zero willpower and no ability to work. I don't know what to do with this anymore. My only option left is to check myself into a nuthouse. Basically I could take adderall for just a couple of months to get used to normal life, and then get off it.
>>221709958That freaks me out. Paranoid schizophrenia starts at early 30s? I had psycosis episode bros it is over.
>>221703733You put a name to something, call it a problem, then you can sell a cure or solutions for it.Just like Faucci did with the common cold.
>>221704071Then quit them as soon as you can. Not cold turkey.
